Uncharted: The Greatest Action Adventure Franchise Ever Made?

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#201 deactivated-5c8e4e07d5510
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Anyone who says Uncharted 2 will be forgotten is being silly. Its an excellent game in nearly every aspect. Yeah, it really doesnt do anything new, but since when has astounding been equal to unique? The characters are well written, the action is exciting, the visuals are bright and stunning.

What else does it need to be?

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Let me ask you this: What do you think has stuck with people for longer? Super Mario 64 or Banjo Kazooie? Both games are excellent platformers, but what game did it first and set the standard? Super Mario 64. What game do more people remember? Super Mario 64.

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#202 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Guppy507"]Hell no. Not even close. It's an insult to the entire gaming industry to say that Uncharted is the best action franchise ever. That's like calling Transformers 2 the greatest movie of all time. It's just another "AAA blockbuster" that will be forgotten after a few years.Guppy507
No it won't. Games that get 95%+ on Metacritic, tons of GOTY awards, and millions upon millions of sales, are not forgotten.

How much money do you think Transformers 2 made? How many people do you hear talking about how great it was? Exactly.

Forget your silly movie comparisons, games aren't movies.

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#203 StealthedRogue
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[QUOTE="StealthedRogue"]

Anyone who says Uncharted 2 will be forgotten is being silly. Its an excellent game in nearly every aspect. Yeah, it really doesnt do anything new, but since when has astounding been equal to unique? The characters are well written, the action is exciting, the visuals are bright and stunning.

What else does it need to be?

Guppy507

Let me ask you this: What do you think has stuck with people for longer? Super Mario 64 or Banjo Kazooie? Both games are excellent platformers, but what game did it first and set the standard? Super Mario 64. What game to more people remember? Super Mario 64.

I would say that yes, you are correct that SM64 is well remembered for what it accomplished, but Banjo Kazooie is also well remembered in its own right.
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#204 Luxen90
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[QUOTE="StealthedRogue"]

Anyone who says Uncharted 2 will be forgotten is being silly. Its an excellent game in nearly every aspect. Yeah, it really doesnt do anything new, but since when has astounding been equal to unique? The characters are well written, the action is exciting, the visuals are bright and stunning.

What else does it need to be?

Guppy507

Let me ask you this: What do you think has stuck with people for longer? Super Mario 64 or Banjo Kazooie? Both games are excellent platformers, but what did it first and set the standard?

Both are remembered just one is recognized more and gets more credit, because it was more fresh at the time.:?

I don't think Uncharted series will be forgotten in the future, sure it won't be remembered as much as innovative games, but I highly doubt it will be completely forgotten. A game doesn't necessarily have to be innovative to be remembered.

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#205 deactivated-5c8e4e07d5510
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[QUOTE="Guppy507"]

[QUOTE="StealthedRogue"]

Anyone who says Uncharted 2 will be forgotten is being silly. Its an excellent game in nearly every aspect. Yeah, it really doesnt do anything new, but since when has astounding been equal to unique? The characters are well written, the action is exciting, the visuals are bright and stunning.

What else does it need to be?

StealthedRogue

Let me ask you this: What do you think has stuck with people for longer? Super Mario 64 or Banjo Kazooie? Both games are excellent platformers, but what game did it first and set the standard? Super Mario 64. What game to more people remember? Super Mario 64.

I would say that yes, you are correct that SM64 is well remembered for what it accomplished, but Banjo Kazooie is also well remembered in its own right.

It's not well remembered by many people at all. If you see a thread asking what people's favorite platformers are, the chances of seeing Banjo Kazooie are very slim, while the chances of seeing SM64 are very high. It's not remembered by the masses like SM64 is. I think the same thing will happen to UC2, and most AAA blockbuster games this gen. I was exaggerating by saying UC2 will be totally forgotten, but it's not going to be remembered as the greatest action adventure franchise ever made.
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#206 RickyRevolver
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why make a threat like this?

your only gonna attract hermits & lemmings here:|

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#207 glez13
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why make a threat like this?

your only gonna attract hermits & lemmings here:|

RickyRevolver

Why Hermits and lemmings? When someone says action adventure chances are the first thing to cross people's minds is Zelda.

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#208 RickyRevolver
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[QUOTE="RickyRevolver"]

why make a threat like this?

your only gonna attract hermits & lemmings here:|

glez13

Why Hermits and lemmings? When someone says action adventure chances are the first thing to cross people's minds is Zelda.

I just figured sheeps were extinct, not to mention they are a small population here on SW. but still, I bet 85% of people her are Hermits and lemmings.

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#209 FIipMode
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[QUOTE="Guppy507"]Hell no. Not even close. It's an insult to the entire gaming industry to say that Uncharted is the best action franchise ever. That's like calling Transformers 2 the greatest movie of all time. It's just another "AAA blockbuster" that will be forgotten after a few years.locopatho
No it won't. Games that get 95%+ on Metacritic, tons of GOTY awards, and millions upon millions of sales, are not forgotten.

I feel the same, years from now when people are doing top PS3 games or top games this gen, I see Uncharted 2 (or hey maybe 3 might raise the bar) sitting comfortably around the top.

But hey I'm no time traveler, and I didn't know so many people here were.

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#210 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="HailCaesarHail"]Uncharted is a very good series, not a flash in the panlike some would hope. Zelda is ok, i never really though it was as great as some think. for me Metal Gear series is the best action adventure series ever, and for me the best gaming series ever. you right TC they got a good site over there.JohnF111

No one hopes that the game they just bought will turn out to be fairly unspectacular. It just happens.

Thats why people who hope a game will be crap(like yourself and the hate towards Uncharted) don't buy these games, only the most arrogant person would go buy a game and hope it sucks. Everyone knows Uncharted did nothing nothing new, nothing inspiring but it took the good points from games and put it into a smooth cinematic singleplayer campaign that a lot of people feel is very unchallenged even today. So annoying when people start saying "Humph humph its not original humph!!".

That's why I own Uncharted and am currently playing it. HERP DE DERP.I guess I'm not allowed to have an opinion on something I bought and played because it conflicts with your opinion. :roll:

Uncharted, as a series, is a flash in the pan. Get over it.

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#211 nervmeister
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Fable is the best action-adventure series. The leaves don't lie.
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Fable is the best action-adventure series. The leaves don't lie.nervmeister
Also the dog. *goes starry eyed*
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#213 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"]Fable is the best action-adventure series. The leaves don't lie.charizard1605
Also the dog. *goes starry eyed*

He'll be your best friend forever!!! Also, he digs up condoms for you. BTW, congratz on 10K posts. :D
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="nervmeister"]Fable is the best action-adventure series. The leaves don't lie.DarkLink77
Also the dog. *goes starry eyed*

He'll be your best friend forever!!! Also, he digs up condoms for you. BTW, congratz on 10K posts. :D

Wait, I have 10k posts? Wha- when did that happen? :shock: Thanks! :D I should host a 10k post party! And yes, he always found me condoms, although I never DID use them... hmm, I think that would explain why I had 79 STDs by the end.... But I was so sad when [spoiler] He died in Fable II. Seriously, that pissed me off like nothing else did, that made me wanna kill that SoB. [/spoiler]
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#216 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] Also the dog. *goes starry eyed*

He'll be your best friend forever!!! Also, he digs up condoms for you. BTW, congratz on 10K posts. :D

Wait, I have 10k posts? Wha- when did that happen? :shock: Thanks! :D I should host a 10k post party! And yes, he always found me condoms, although I never DID use them... hmm, I think that would explain why I had 79 STDs by the end.... But I was so sad when he died in Fable II. Seriously, that pissed me off like nothing else did, that made me wanna kill that SoB.

Do it! :P I had... less. I know. I was like... "I will murder you!" :evil: And then I killed him with a music box... :(
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#217 Darksiders666
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I disagree I love the Assassins Creed series.

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#218 DudeNtheRoom
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No. Zelda.

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Zelda: A Link to the Past to be specific.
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#219 Iantheone
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[QUOTE="Guppy507"][QUOTE="locopatho"] No it won't. Games that get 95%+ on Metacritic, tons of GOTY awards, and millions upon millions of sales, are not forgotten.locopatho

How much money do you think Transformers 2 made? How many people do you hear talking about how great it was? Exactly.

Forget your silly movie comparisons, games aren't movies.

And Transformers 2 was far from being a great movie. On topic: Zelda>Uncharted
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#220 Mozelleple112
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No.

Metal Gear is.

Metal Gear > The Legend of Zelda

Metal Gear 2 > The Adventure of Link

Metal Gear Solid > A Link to the Past
Metal Gear Solid 2 > WindWaker

Metal Gear Solid 3 > Majora's Mask

Metal Gear Solid 4 > Ocarina of Time.

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#221 strangequark81
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I thought I disagreed at first but I'm struggling to come up with a better one. The thing with uncharted is that there has only been two (very good) games. It might still go all tomb raider on us.

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#222 alfredooo
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No.

Metal Gear is.

Metal Gear > The Legend of Zelda

Metal Gear 2 > The Adventure of Link

Metal Gear Solid > A Link to the Past
Metal Gear Solid 2 > WindWaker

Metal Gear Solid 3 > Majora's Mask

Metal Gear Solid 4 > Ocarina of Time.

Mozelleple112

No. Just no.

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#223 strangequark81
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Hold on if we're counting zelda (which I thought was an RPG) then zelda tears uncharted and MSG to shreds. Its been consistently brilliant (with a couple of exceptions) for over two decades.

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#224 DudeNtheRoom
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No.

Metal Gear is.

Metal Gear > The Legend of Zelda

Metal Gear 2 > The Adventure of Link

Metal Gear Solid > A Link to the Past
Metal Gear Solid 2 > WindWaker

Metal Gear Solid 3 > Majora's Mask

Metal Gear Solid 4 > Ocarina of Time.

Mozelleple112

I can see you're in love with this.....Medal Gear thing.

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#225 kozzy1234
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The best of this gen maybe, not ever though. IMO Zork would be king. You younger kids probably never tried that series, but it was an awesome adventure series that really paved the way for others.

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#226 glez13
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Hold on if we're counting zelda (which I thought was an RPG) then zelda tears uncharted and MSG to shreds. Its been consistently brilliant (with a couple of exceptions) for over two decades.

strangequark81

Don't worry it happens. Zelda games have been such ARPG wannabes that they tend to fool some every now and then.

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#227 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"]

[QUOTE="Guppy507"] How much money do you think Transformers 2 made? How many people do you hear talking about how great it was? Exactly.Iantheone

Forget your silly movie comparisons, games aren't movies.

And Transformers 2 was far from being a great movie. On topic: Zelda>Uncharted

No one said it was :P
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#228 glez13
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[QUOTE="Iantheone"][QUOTE="locopatho"] Forget your silly movie comparisons, games aren't movies.

locopatho

And Transformers 2 was far from being a great movie. On topic: Zelda>Uncharted

No one said it was :P

True. Actually that was the point.:lol:

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#229 Creator_Of_All
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You mean shooter ?

Uncharted is not really an action adventure at all, it is a shooter and indeed it is the very best shooter i have ever played

best game ever imo, also still has the best visuals ever, maybe rivaled by Alan wake but not even close

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#230 Aku101
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Guppy507"]Hell no. Not even close. It's an insult to the entire gaming industry to say that Uncharted is the best action franchise ever. That's like calling Transformers 2 the greatest movie of all time. It's just another "AAA blockbuster" that will be forgotten after a few years.Guppy507
No it won't. Games that get 95%+ on Metacritic, tons of GOTY awards, and millions upon millions of sales, are not forgotten.

How much money do you think Transformers 2 made? How many people do you hear talking about how great it was? Exactly.

Bad comparison. Uncharted is like LOTR, tons of awards, amde tons of money and people are still talking about how great it is. If you're comparing the best from one field to antoher field then compare it with the best of that field. Try again.

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#231 Elementguy13
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No. Tomb Raider will forever hold that genre over. I still remember playing tomb raider 10 years ago on pc. Uncharted is practically tomb raider with a lot of more bad guys/shoot em up. Thats why the Tomb Raider series was so good back in the day. ADVENTURE. Puzzles..

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#232 p3anut
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Nope, Zelda takes the cake.

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#233 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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It is one of the best and I'd argue it's my personal favourite, but then again I didn't play Zelda when it came out.

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#234 DarkLink77
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No.

Metal Gear is.

Metal Gear > The Legend of Zelda

Metal Gear 2 > The Adventure of Link

Metal Gear Solid > A Link to the Past
Metal Gear Solid 2 > WindWaker

Metal Gear Solid 3 > Majora's Mask

Metal Gear Solid 4 > Ocarina of Time.

Mozelleple112

:lol: You're funny! You should be on stage. :lol:

Thanks, though. I needed a laugh.

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#235 KevinButlerVP
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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

No.

Metal Gear is.

Metal Gear > The Legend of Zelda

Metal Gear 2 > The Adventure of Link

Metal Gear Solid > A Link to the Past
Metal Gear Solid 2 > WindWaker

Metal Gear Solid 3 > Majora's Mask

Metal Gear Solid 4 > Ocarina of Time.

DarkLink77

:lol; You're funny! You should be on stage. :lol:

he grew up with MGS and you grew up with Zelda lol

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#236 johny300
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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

No.

Metal Gear is.

Metal Gear > The Legend of Zelda

Metal Gear 2 > The Adventure of Link

Metal Gear Solid > A Link to the Past
Metal Gear Solid 2 > WindWaker

Metal Gear Solid 3 > Majora's Mask

Metal Gear Solid 4 > Ocarina of Time.

alfredooo

No. Just no.

Yes just yes.

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#237 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

No.

Metal Gear is.

Metal Gear > The Legend of Zelda

Metal Gear 2 > The Adventure of Link

Metal Gear Solid > A Link to the Past
Metal Gear Solid 2 > WindWaker

Metal Gear Solid 3 > Majora's Mask

Metal Gear Solid 4 > Ocarina of Time.

KevinButlerVP

:lol; You're funny! You should be on stage. :lol:

he grew up with MGS and you grew up with Zelda lol

That has nothing to do with anything. Nice try, though.

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#238 Twin-Blade
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Zelda.

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#239 Greyfeld
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Too much zelda fanboyism in this thread. My eyes are practically bleeding green. In any case, I think Uncharted loses handily to Assassin's Creed. AC's storyline may be a little convoluted, but the gameplay is definitely a notch above UC. I played AC:B right before I played UC2 for the first time, and I gotta say, the platforming and stealth kills from UC2 are a clunky mess compared to the last two installments in the AC series. It does shooting decently, and there's a lot of witty dialogue, but everything else is definitely a little clunky and out-dated.
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#240 KevinButlerVP
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[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] :lol; You're funny! You should be on stage. :lol:

DarkLink77

he grew up with MGS and you grew up with Zelda lol

That has nothing to do with anything. Nice try, though.

maybe u should have elaborated then? cuz it seems like the "lol no, zelda is king" argument really isn't providing any detail on why it owns so much
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#241 bbkkristian
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NO!!!! It doesn't even come close to Zelda!! :x
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#242 alfredooo
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] he grew up with MGS and you grew up with Zelda lol

KevinButlerVP

That has nothing to do with anything. Nice try, though.

maybe u should have elaborated then? cuz it seems like the "lol no, zelda is king" argument really isn't providing any detail on why it owns so much

I don't see any argument on why MGS is king either :| Odd that you didn't call him out when he said all MGS games are better than Zelda games without an argument in the first place.

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#243 KevinButlerVP
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[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] That has nothing to do with anything. Nice try, though.

alfredooo

maybe u should have elaborated then? cuz it seems like the "lol no, zelda is king" argument really isn't providing any detail on why it owns so much

I don't see any argument on why MGS is king either :| Odd that you didn't call him out when he said all MGS games are better than Zelda games without an argument in the first place.

I did, both their arguments were because they grew up with Zelda/MGS

but darklink is denying that being the reason and gave no further detail

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#245 alfredooo
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I did, both their arguments were because they grew up with Zelda/MGS

but darklink is denying that being the reason and gave no further detail

KevinButlerVP

But you don't know that. For all you know, both of them might have grown up with Zelda and MGS.

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#246 Rekunta
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Yes, I agree. Almost every game these days has bad level design. I don't care about the action, I don't care that the cinematic cutscenes had me guessing at what was going to happen, I care that the game confounded me and immersed me in the one way that only a game truly can, and that is by making me guess what to do next and where to go now. Uncharted never did that. Everything you did was always clear. Again, for level design, play something like Half Life 2 or Crysis or Metroid Prime or Super Mario Galaxy 2. THAT is level design. Not a single 'corridor' (even if the corridor is disguised as 'the outdoors') that forces you to move from point A to B.charizard1605

Don't mean to butt-in, but I'd like to point something out here.

For what Uncharted 2 aims to acheive,with its fast paced, cinematic, by the seat of your pants adrenaline soaked experience, its level design is quite brilliant. The levels are presented in such a way that is most conducive to conveying to the player as much of a cinematic experience as possible, and in that respect ND accomplished what they set out to do with flying colors. Your argument about not being able to explore here or there or go wherever you want as an indication of poor level design is completely unfounded, irrelevant and innaccurate. For the type of game they created, the level design is astoundingly well done and fitting. You're holding UC up to the likes of Metroid, SMG2 and others....those are games that have entirely different goals from one another, they cannot be compared as their objectives are vastly different from UC's. Besides, you can have terrible level design in a non-linear game.

Jumping out of a window of a collapsing building that has just been blown up by a helicopter into another adjacent building, clambering and fighting your way up a train dodging obstacles (and then battling a helicopter later on from a railcar), the Nepalese villiage. All of these were brilliantly designed levels, because they worked incredibly well towards what the game was trying to do: build up tension and provide atmosphere to give the player a one of a kind cinematic gaming experience. Allowing you to wander off the set path was not how it was intended, and it doesn't inherently mean this linearity automatically makes it inferior to games that do allow more freedom. It's simply different. SMG2 has excellent level design for a platformer. Super Metroid does for an open world/adventure game. And, yes, Uncharted 2 also does for providing what basically amounts to playing an interactive, tightly scripted movie.

And I see no correlation between linearity, interactivity, and whether a level is done well or not. All three can work equally effectively in various combinations. Again, it all depends on what the game is trying to do. And for what UC2 strives for, it excels at, precisely because of the design of its levels. They are anything but poorly done, they are what made the game. You need to ask yourself what the game is trying to accomplish before you start deciding whether the level design is poor or not.

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God yes, best action adventure ever. It has a great character with a great voice, great acting, great story, great moments, great graphics and great gameplay. Also not using swords or some poor excuse of gunplay like tomb raider. Best action franchise ever...hell best franchise ever in my book the first 2 were perfect, i hope the third is too. I cant strech franchise enough, ofcourse there are better games, but usually end up sucking in the second or third installment,
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#248 WilliamRLBaker
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I would have to disagree metroid, zelda...etc all came before and did it much better all uncharted has it production values.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Yes, I agree. Almost every game these days has bad level design. I don't care about the action, I don't care that the cinematic cutscenes had me guessing at what was going to happen, I care that the game confounded me and immersed me in the one way that only a game truly can, and that is by making me guess what to do next and where to go now. Uncharted never did that. Everything you did was always clear. Again, for level design, play something like Half Life 2 or Crysis or Metroid Prime or Super Mario Galaxy 2. THAT is level design. Not a single 'corridor' (even if the corridor is disguised as 'the outdoors') that forces you to move from point A to B.Rekunta

Don't mean to butt-in, but I'd like to point something out here.

For what Uncharted 2 aims to acheive,with its fast paced, cinematic, by the seat of your pants adrenaline soaked experience, its level design is quite brilliant. The levels are presented in such a way that is most conducive to conveying to the player as much of a cinematic experience as possible, and in that respect ND accomplished what they set out to do with flying colors. Your argument about not being able to explore here or there or go wherever you want as an indication of poor level design is completely unfounded, irrelevant and innaccurate. For the type of game they created, the level design is astoundingly well done and fitting. You're holding UC up to the likes of Metroid, SMG2 and others....those are games that have entirely different goals from one another, they cannot be compared as their objectives are vastly different from UC's. Besides, you can have terrible level design in a non-linear game.

Jumping out of a window of a collapsing building that has just been blown up by a helicopter into another adjacent building, clambering and fighting your way up a train dodging obstacles (and then battling a helicopter later on from a railcar), the Nepalese villiage. All of these were brilliantly designed levels, because they worked incredibly well towards what the game was trying to do: build up tension and provide atmosphere to give the player a one of a kind cinematic gaming experience. Allowing you to wander off the set path was not how it was intended, and it doesn't inherently mean this linearity automatically makes it inferior to games that do allow more freedom. It's simply different. SMG2 has excellent level design for a platformer. Super Metroid does for an open world/adventure game. And, yes, Uncharted 2 also does for providing what basically amounts to playing an interactive, tightly scripted movie.

And I see no correlation between linearity, interactivity, and whether a level is done well or not. All three can work equally effectively in various combinations. Again, it all depends on what the game is trying to do. And for what UC2 strives for, it excels at, precisely because of the design of its levels. They are anything but poorly done, they are what made the game. You need to ask yourself what the game is trying to accomplish before you start deciding whether the level design is poor or not.

Yes, I agree with this guy. One quick thought from me, if not for Uncharted, we app would be wishing for something like it. I say gamers got lucky that the goal that Uncharted 2 was going for was done so well.
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#250 San_09
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No. Zelda.

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THIS^ LOL at the opinion. But yeah, doubt the guy has even played Zelda.