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#101 istreakforfood
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[QUOTE="istreakforfood"]

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="istreakforfood"]

The hdtv and sdtv as how it is with regular controller and hori stick.

Dreams-Visions

Okay thats just a ludicrious claim right there that absolutely makes no sense what so ever.

An Arcade Stick is superior to a controller for fighters because the Stick is more accurate and more precise. Not to mention you have one hand controller all the buttons with your hand laying over the buttons as you are able to hit them with more accuracy and precision.

The Arcade Stick changes gameplay because it gives you a superior input device. It is directly attritube to the control input of the game. You ever try to play a 360 grappler on a Control Pad? Good luck.

Tell me now. What affect on a game does an HDTV have?

  • Controls?
  • Frame Rate?

Please tell me what it changes.

Playing any game on my roomates HDTV and then playing on my SDTV there is no difference in gameplay. Its the same thing. You're Arcade Stick analogy is just 100% wrong and this is coming from someone who has multiple sticks, knows how to build them, knows which parts ect are better ect.

So I'd appreciate it if you didn't use an analogy that is so incorrect.

You're only claim is a visual base which doesn't affect gameplay what so ever if one can see everything perfectly anyways.

I see the hdtv as the hori stick since you can see more clearly compare to sdtv which gives an advantage on certain fps/tps games. Like the examples I gave on the CoD4 maps I experienced from playing on sd and hdtv. If it is easier to see certain things from far distance on hdtv rather than in sdtv would it not be an advatage?

As an owner of both (see my blog), I'm glad to say you're flat wrong. whether I'm on a big SDTV or a big HDTV, I'm going to get the same number of kills in Halo 2 or Halo 3. Sure, HD makes things cleaner and sharper, but it wasn't that bad looking in the first place.

No.

Let's look at a Hori HRAP arcade stick vs. a controller. Here's mine, slightly modded for PS3/360/PC compatability

This stick (and any stick) allows for:

  • enhanced control speed
  • greater button pressing accuracy
  • eaiser button combination presses
  • hightened analog stick (dpad) control and response

another way to think about this:

Up until very recently, arcades employed nothing but big SDTVs of varying sizes. Fighters, shooters, action games. they all used SDTVs. Now imagine if those arcades suddenly switched to controllers.

There'd be riots because arcade sticks are simply irreplacable.

I can honestly say stepping down to controllers killed my passion for playing fighting games. too hard to push multiple buttons at once. inconsistent d-pad response.

I just got my HRAP 3 and now I see what I've been missing. But Halo 3 doesn't care if it's in SD or HD. and I can't think of one situation where I feel I got more kills playing Team Fortress 2 @ 1920x1200 than I would have at 1024x768 or less.

So no my friend, an arcade stick can has a much more dramatic impact on the gameplay experience of a gamer than the sharpness of a TV ever could. Though I'll agree that the resolution of a TV can have a great impact on the IMMERSION into a game. different issue, though.

Closing thought: I'd also say that a flight stick will have a greater impact on gameplay of a flying game than HD resolutions. Same with a driving wheel.

That's all I got for ya. But try it before saying something like that next time, k?

I don't know why people keep bringing up Halo 3. I mentioned I didn't have any problems with Halo games whether I was on sd or hdtv. TF2 shouldn't have any problems as well either. I said certain games like CoD4. Seems the analogy of using the hori stick was a bad example.

I did some comparisons since I played both on sd and hdtv on and off for CoD4. LIke the examples I gave which everyone disregarded.

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#102 Dreams-Visions
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Maybe for one or two games, you'd be correct. I tend to disagree about CoD4, but whatever.

yea, comparing resolutions to specialized, optimized controllers and input devices was probably not the way to go to make the point you were going for.

just an observation. no stress.

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#103 jasonheyman
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My Set Up

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#104 W1NGMAN-
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

Yea I know you can zoom out before the ball is snapped, but I'm just talk about Madden 08 and how AFTER you hike the ball you couldn't see the corner or your reciever, so if he was playing a press zone cover 2 you were basically screwed if you attempted that out route.

And no I didn't know you could set a designed 4:3 tv to something else, wouldn't it make the picture even worse?

Blackbond

Yes you can see the corners of the WR's man. If he plays C2 you are not screwed. And it doesn't matter even if changing it from 4:3 makes the picture worse. Its still the same game. Framerate isn't affected neither is nothing else. HD resolutions are nothing but Eye Candy. They do not enhance or change the gameplay of a game at all.

Any game played on an SDTV plays 100% the same on an HDTV. Nothing changes but the quality of the picture.

I know I'm not screwed if he plays MAN up Cover 2, that's why I specifically said PRESS ZONE Cover 2....

Anyways I just finished taking some pics showing you exactly what I mean...

There's 3 WRs on the right hand side, one being TO on the very end....

Now where in the world is T.O.? Is there a corner out there and is he playing Man up?

Let's see the replay....oh there he is and oh snap a corner playing zone just waiting for me to throw it his way....

Now let's see how things look in HD, same play....

Oh snap I can see TO and the corner, and not only that I'm on the furthest hashmarks. Even with me being on the nearest hashmarks to TO I still couldn't see him on SD....

I think I made my point, there are some advantages to having an HD over SD other then prettier graphics.

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#105 W1NGMAN-
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I'll also like to add there's only 3 recievers visiable in the SD settings while I can see all 5 on HD.
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#106 Blackbond
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All you showed is the advantage of a Widescreen over 4:3. Not HDTV vs SDTV man. There are many flat panel tvs that are not HD but are widescreen. There are options to turn games even on SDTV to widescreen mode.

You could make a point about Widescreen but not HD.

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#107 W1NGMAN-
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All you showed is the advantage of a Widescreen TV over a Regular TV. Not HDTV vs SDTV man. There are many flat panel tvs that are not HD but are widescreen. I still fail to see your point.Blackbond

Yet you don't even own a widescreen tv, so I suggest you throw out what you got and upgrade to AT LEAST a widescreen TV.

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#108 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]All you showed is the advantage of a Widescreen TV over a Regular TV. Not HDTV vs SDTV man. There are many flat panel tvs that are not HD but are widescreen. I still fail to see your point.W1NGMAN-

Yet you don't even own a widescreen tv, so I suggest you throw out what you got and upgrade to AT LEAST a widescreen TV.

Do not attempt to educate me on what I do and what I don't own. And as I've said before games have options for aspect ration changes.

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#109 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]All you showed is the advantage of a Widescreen TV over a Regular TV. Not HDTV vs SDTV man. There are many flat panel tvs that are not HD but are widescreen. I still fail to see your point.Blackbond

Yet you don't even own a widescreen tv, so I suggest you throw out what you got and upgrade to AT LEAST a widescreen TV.

Do not attempt to educate me on what I do and what I don't own. And as I've said before games have options for aspect ration changes.

and that was that.

I think he ought not try again, personally. it was a convoluted argument anyway.

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#110 W1NGMAN-
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]All you showed is the advantage of a Widescreen TV over a Regular TV. Not HDTV vs SDTV man. There are many flat panel tvs that are not HD but are widescreen. I still fail to see your point.Blackbond

Yet you don't even own a widescreen tv, so I suggest you throw out what you got and upgrade to AT LEAST a widescreen TV.

Do not attempt to educate me on what I do and what I don't own. And as I've said before games have options for aspect ration changes.

Well how am I supose to know you have one when in your gaming room you have nothing but SD 4:3 tvs? May I ask, why isn't that in your room, and why not play games on it? I guess because it's a bit on the tiny side?

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#111 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]All you showed is the advantage of a Widescreen TV over a Regular TV. Not HDTV vs SDTV man. There are many flat panel tvs that are not HD but are widescreen. I still fail to see your point.Dreams-Visions

Yet you don't even own a widescreen tv, so I suggest you throw out what you got and upgrade to AT LEAST a widescreen TV.

Do not attempt to educate me on what I do and what I don't own. And as I've said before games have options for aspect ration changes.

and that was that.

I think he ought not try again, personally. it was a convoluted argument anyway.

*MVP*

Yeah well now its conceeded that HDTV has no benifit over SDTV in the gameplay department in this guys case.

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#112 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]All you showed is the advantage of a Widescreen TV over a Regular TV. Not HDTV vs SDTV man. There are many flat panel tvs that are not HD but are widescreen. I still fail to see your point.W1NGMAN-

Yet you don't even own a widescreen tv, so I suggest you throw out what you got and upgrade to AT LEAST a widescreen TV.

Do not attempt to educate me on what I do and what I don't own. And as I've said before games have options for aspect ration changes.

Well how am I supose to know you have one when in your gaming room you have nothing but SD 4:3 tvs? May I ask, why isn't that in your room, and why not play games on it? I guess because it's a bit on the tiny side?

BY ASKING FIRST. :| :| :|

you know, like how normal people find out information. how you presumed you could make such an assumption without asking is startling.

next time, you can ask and get clarity. then you won't get owned.

fair?

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#113 W1NGMAN-
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]All you showed is the advantage of a Widescreen TV over a Regular TV. Not HDTV vs SDTV man. There are many flat panel tvs that are not HD but are widescreen. I still fail to see your point.Dreams-Visions

Yet you don't even own a widescreen tv, so I suggest you throw out what you got and upgrade to AT LEAST a widescreen TV.

Do not attempt to educate me on what I do and what I don't own. And as I've said before games have options for aspect ration changes.

Well how am I supose to know you have one when in your gaming room you have nothing but SD 4:3 tvs? May I ask, why isn't that in your room, and why not play games on it? I guess because it's a bit on the tiny side?

BY ASKING FIRST. :| :| :|

you know, like how normal people find out information. how you presumed you could make such an assumption without asking is startling.

next time, you can ask and get clarity. then you won't get owned.

fair?

Who are you and why are you answering for Blackbond?

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#114 Blackbond
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Well how am I supose to know you have one when in your gaming room you have nothing but SD 4:3 tvs? May I ask, why isn't that in your room, and why not play games on it? I guess because it's a bit on the tiny side?

W1NGMAN-

Because as I stated those pics are old an I'm at College now :roll:

It never pays to assume man. You know what they say about people who assume things right? (I don't know I'm just curious if you do lol)

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#115 Blackbond
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Who are you and why are you answering for Blackbond?

W1NGMAN-

Who is he? He's Dreamvisions. Why is he answering for BlackBond? Because a co-holder of the belts is allowed to. We run **** plain and simple.

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#116 W1NGMAN-
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

Well how am I supose to know you have one when in your gaming room you have nothing but SD 4:3 tvs? May I ask, why isn't that in your room, and why not play games on it? I guess because it's a bit on the tiny side?

Blackbond

Because as I stated those pics are old an I'm at College now :roll:

It never pays to assume man. You know what they say about people who assume things right? (I don't know I'm just curious if you do lol)

Oh I see, I guess in the end HDTV's really are just for eye candy....and well me loves me some candy :D

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#117 W1NGMAN-
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

Who are you and why are you answering for Blackbond?

Blackbond

Who is he? He's Dreamvisions. Why is he answering for BlackBond? Because a co-holder of the belts is allowed to. We run **** plain and simple.

Run what? GS System Wars forums?

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#118 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

Who are you and why are you answering for Blackbond?

W1NGMAN-

Who is he? He's Dreamvisions. Why is he answering for BlackBond? Because a co-holder of the belts is allowed to. We run **** plain and simple.

Run what? GS System Wars forums?

We run the Universe :|

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#119 Iceman2911
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arguing about tv's and wrestling vids talk about off topic.
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#120 W1NGMAN-
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:Dnavyguy21

God I want surround sound so bad, Rock Band sounds like crap in my room....but my next pricey purchase will be a prem 360, so I'll have to hold out a little longer.

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#121 Blackbond
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arguing about tv's and wrestling vids talk about off topic.Iceman2911

How is arguing about TVs in a thread about Setupds off topic? I don't recall anyone talking about wrestling vids in this thread. You really need to get off me and stop trolling every where I post man lol
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#122 rockguy92
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arguing about tv's and wrestling vids talk about off topic.Iceman2911

LOL I know.

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#123 air_wolf_cubed
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[QUOTE="Iceman2911"]arguing about tv's and wrestling vids talk about off topic.Blackbond

How is arguing about TVs in a thread about Setupds off topic? I don't recall anyone talking about wrestling vids in this thread. You really need to get off me and stop trolling every where I post man lol

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#124 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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This thread turned into a blackbond Vs W1NGMAN HDTV vs SDTV thread :lol:

I dont even wana post my setup I just wana read the arguments.

*post meme of micheal jackson eating popcorn*

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#125 Iceman2911
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[QUOTE="Iceman2911"]arguing about tv's and wrestling vids talk about off topic.Blackbond

How is arguing about TVs in a thread about Setupds off topic? I don't recall anyone talking about wrestling vids in this thread. You really need to get off me and stop trolling every where I post man lol

akward we have a off topic forums in gs this sw I was just checking out everybody set up then I see your post about tvs.

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#126 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Iceman2911"]arguing about tv's and wrestling vids talk about off topic.Iceman2911


How is arguing about TVs in a thread about Setupds off topic? I don't recall anyone talking about wrestling vids in this thread. You really need to get off me and stop trolling every where I post man lol

akward we have a off topic forums in gs this sw I was just checking out everybody set up then I see your post about tvs.

Now ask yourself this. Are TV's not part of a setup? Or do you game on a projecter?

If you gotta problem with the thread then report it man.

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#127 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Iceman2911"]

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Iceman2911"]arguing about tv's and wrestling vids talk about off topic.Blackbond


How is arguing about TVs in a thread about Setupds off topic? I don't recall anyone talking about wrestling vids in this thread. You really need to get off me and stop trolling every where I post man lol

akward we have a off topic forums in gs this sw I was just checking out everybody set up then I see your post about tvs.

Now ask yourself this. Are TV's not part of a setup? Or do you game on a projecter?

If you gotta problem with the thread then report it man.

You guys kinda are offtopic man :?

W1NGMA especially with his TO football pics

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#128 TreetarD93
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fairly simple

proview 37" HDTV with xbox 360

some older things in my collection

my 360 games

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#130 deactivated-619c4c1a1a382
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Old House

i got there in that photo My PS3,Wii(Under the cabinate),and a iPod Nano that im using as a thumb drive

Oh and my 360 when i took that photo was in for repair

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#131 Iceman2911
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my bad this is not off topic I am so sorry sacasm

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#132 TreetarD93
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my bad this is not off topic I am so sorry sacasm

Iceman2911

is that tv HD?

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#133 hayato_
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Sorry for the blurness. 360 ISN'T mine, its my roommates. Gotta give props to them (ps3 40 gig and 20 gig 360)

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#134 Iceman2911
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[QUOTE="Iceman2911"]

my bad this is not off topic I am so sorry sacasm

TreetarD93

is that tv HD?

yeah go ask blackbond

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#135 iam2green
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i have a sony bravia 32" the panassonic use to be the old tv i use to play on, now its just sitting there sometimes my friend comes over and plays his 360 on it.

i didn't take pic of computer because its a plane tower no leds or nothing like that.

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#136 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="TreetarD93"][QUOTE="Iceman2911"]

my bad this is not off topic I am so sorry sacasm

Iceman2911

is that tv HD?

yeah go ask blackbond

No its not HD and what everyone can show off their TV's but I can't :roll:

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#137 jasonheyman
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No its not HD and what everyone can show off their TV's but I can't :roll:

Blackbond

Don't let these peeps get to you man!;) Some talk trash and we cant stop them so who cares anyway.

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#138 skrat_01
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Well I found a bunch of old setup pics dating years back - to around early 06 methinks. So i figured it would make sense to post them here.

An evolution of a setup

In the beginning - it was a geeky mess

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After the Fishbowl monitor exploded while playing FEAR (due to the games awesomeness)

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Finally picking up that hd tv i'd been saving for

(and getting a PS3 for free a few months ago)

P9010001.jpg picture by muscrat_01

Today - switched monitor - (need to pickup some new speakers and replace my keyboard)

P9280002.jpg picture by muscrat_01

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#139 jasonheyman
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How did you get a PS3 for nothin:shock:
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#140 skrat_01
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How did you get a PS3 for nothin:shock:jasonheyman
Free with a Bravia TV - sony promition (probably to get the 40gb PS3s out of stock). :)

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#141 GioVela2010
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That still looks like a Geeky mess
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#142 Zero5000X
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...

MikeE21286

the pic on the wall made me laugh.

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#144 air_wolf_cubed
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Oh, and LOL at Blackbonds Damage Control for being below the poverty line. GioVela2010
BlackBond games in SD. Why buy a HDTV when you can just buy more games?Blackbond
Below the poverty line? Wut?

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#145 MikeE21286
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Oh, and LOL at Blackbonds Damage Control for being below the poverty line. GioVela2010

I think HDTV penetration is only like 25%.......

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#146 FragTycoon
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[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]Oh, and LOL at Blackbonds Damage Control for being below the poverty line. MikeE21286

I think HDTV penetration is only like 25%.......

It's time for change!

(My gaming political platform)

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#147 Blackbond
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Oh, and LOL at Blackbonds Damage Control for being below the poverty line. GioVela2010

You might as well be telling me to go home to Newtown and laugh at you from my $500,000+ house :roll:

Hell average salary of Teachers in my area is what $84,000 or something That is amongst the highest in the country.

Heh really, if I'm below the poverty line then I guess the United States just became a third world country. I fail to see why my financial status is such a concern of yours.

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#148 MikeE21286
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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]Oh, and LOL at Blackbonds Damage Control for being below the poverty line. FragTycoon

I think HDTV penetration is only like 25%.......

It's time for change!

(My gaming political platform)

sounds eerily familiar :P

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#149 FragTycoon
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[QUOTE="FragTycoon"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]Oh, and LOL at Blackbonds Damage Control for being below the poverty line. MikeE21286

I think HDTV penetration is only like 25%.......

It's time for change!

(My gaming political platform)

sounds eerily familiar :P

"Say no to 4 more years of SD" sound much better?

how about "I would sit down with the president of Iran in order to secure HD"

:P

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#150 MikeE21286
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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]Oh, and LOL at Blackbonds Damage Control for being below the poverty line. FragTycoon

I think HDTV penetration is only like 25%.......

It's time for change!

(My gaming political platform)

sounds eerily familiar :P

"Say no to 4 more years of SD" sound much better?

how about "I would sit down with the president of Iran in order to secure HD"

:P

:lol:

and they thought blackbond and wingman were bad....