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I think it *deserves* an AA rating from what I played. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if it got AAA off of namesake though.VandalvideoSo you actually enjoyed it?
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I think it *deserves* an AA rating from what I played. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if it got AAA off of namesake though.Salt_The_FriesSo you actually enjoyed it? I figured it should have an AA rating from the beginning. I mean anything less from Ensemble would be weird. Overall it was a little too simplistic, and I wasn't able to micromanage as much as I would have liked. Aside from that everything else was decent.
[QUOTE="death919"]I can't see it getting AAA, Warcraft 3 just barely got AAA and I can't imagine Halo Wars living up to that, I'm predicting 8.5.Espada12
Warcraft 3 was reviewed in terms of PC standards. From a console standpoint halo wars could very well get AAA.
Which really wouldn't be saying very much to RTS players as a whole. There needs to be a degree of PC standards at play here.[QUOTE="death919"]I can't see it getting AAA, Warcraft 3 just barely got AAA and I can't imagine Halo Wars living up to that, I'm predicting 8.5.Espada12
Warcraft 3 was reviewed in terms of PC standards. From a console standpoint halo wars could very well get AAA.
Hmm this is true too. I guess it could, I HOPE it does. But I dunno... I guess I really should go play the demo.[QUOTE="Espada12"][QUOTE="death919"]I can't see it getting AAA, Warcraft 3 just barely got AAA and I can't imagine Halo Wars living up to that, I'm predicting 8.5.Vandalvideo
Warcraft 3 was reviewed in terms of PC standards. From a console standpoint halo wars could very well get AAA.
Which really wouldn't be saying very much to RTS players as a whole. There needs to be a degree of PC standards at play here.I think the review will end something like this. Halo wars is a great console RTS that does everything right and will probably be the standard for console RTS games, if you are a hardcore RTS fan nothing here will impress you but if you aren't you should pick up this game. AAA or AA
Something like that, I really don't think they will take PC standards into account at all.
I think the review will end something like this. Halo wars is a great console RTS that does everything right and will probably be the standard for console RTS games, if you are a hardcore RTS fan nothing here will impress you but if you aren't you should pick up this game. AAA or AA Something like that, I really don't think they will take PC standards into account at all. Espada12I would hope that they do use some degree of PC standards. RTS and PC standards are kind of married at the hip right now. You can't just have something with an isometric view and call it an RTS. Like another gamespot reviewer has told me regarding another game, "These games don't exist in vacuums". They have to rate it based on other RTS covnentions, largely foudn on PC.
I would hope that they do use some degree of PC standards. RTS and PC standards are kind of married at the hip right now. You can't just have something with an isometric view and call it an RTS. Like another gamespot reviewer has told me regarding another game, "These games don't exist in vacuums". They have to rate it based on other RTS covnentions, largely foudn on PC.
no.....its this kind of thinking that has to die. Its like comparing Goldeneye to popular fps at the time. Its wrong.
You have to judge a game based on the platform its released on. You cant dock points off of Haol wars due to things ***BEYOND ITS CONTROL***. End of story.
Again......comparing Halo Wars to PC rts standards is UNFAIR because Halo Wars is being compared to a standard IT CANT LIVE UP TO due to being on a console.
Thats why being judged on tis own merits is smart and proper thinking.
no.....its this kind of thinking that has to die. Its like comparing Goldeneye to popular fps at the time. Its wrong. You have to judge a game based on the platform its released on. You cant dock points off of Haol wars due to things ***BEYOND ITS CONTROL***. End of story. Again......comparing Halo Wars to PC rts standards is UNFAIR because Halo Wars is being compared to a standard IT CANT LIVE UP TO due to being on a console. Thats why being judged on tis own merits is smart and proper thinking.Keep-the-FaithYou say its unfair, I say its only proper. You can't hide behind a console and use it to pretend that it is somehow an AAA worthy RTS game. You have to measure it up with the other modern conventions as a whole, and it definitely ain't up to AAA snuff.
[QUOTE="Keep-the-Faith"]no.....its this kind of thinking that has to die. Its like comparing Goldeneye to popular fps at the time. Its wrong. You have to judge a game based on the platform its released on. You cant dock points off of Haol wars due to things ***BEYOND ITS CONTROL***. End of story. Again......comparing Halo Wars to PC rts standards is UNFAIR because Halo Wars is being compared to a standard IT CANT LIVE UP TO due to being on a console. Thats why being judged on tis own merits is smart and proper thinking.VandalvideoYou say its unfair, I say its only proper. You can't hide behind a console and use it to pretend that it is somehow an AAA worthy RTS game. You have to measure it up with the other modern conventions as a whole, and it definitely ain't up to AAA snuff.
to put it bluntly, your way cant work because that would mean holding Halo wars up to a standard it **inherently** cant measure up to, due to it being on a console.
It shoudl be reviewed as a console rts, and only then will it have a shot at AAA
I think it'll get AA, maybe AAA.
I really liked the demo. I'd give it AA, but I hope it gets AAA from reviewers to shut all the haters up even more.II-FBIsniper-II
Halo 3 getting an AAA did not shut up the haters, they just called it overrated and they were paid off by MS.
As a Really big RTS fan on PC, I say Halo Wars is the first exellent console RTS game I played. Everything handles well graphics and effects are done nice.
If one game could make a great console rts game a Halo story driven one could and it looks like it will succeed. AAA
RTS games will rule 2009
Ok I just got done with all the modes. Here are some thoughts:
- Campaign: The campaign is great. It's not World in Conflict/Total War RTT level, but for a RTS, it's actually pretty compelling. This brings me to
- Presentation: The presentation is absolutely phenomenal. On its own, it holds. As part of the larger Halo franchise, hot damn, there are so many references to the original Halo trilogy its just bloody awesome. It's as if we're talking about Blizzard's presentation instead of the usual Ensemble stuff. Cutscenes and gameplay don't feel disjointed, maybe because of the CGI elements within the real-time gameplay, but it's cool. The music is phenomenal. Captures the Halo feel without it being Halo.
- Story: Not much revealed so far, but I'm definitely intrigued. It's not that usual space opera fluff that plagues Halo 2, Halo 3, and Starcraft. Real deal sci-fi here.
- Controls: Pretty damn intuitive. It lays a damn solid foundation which I reckon most devs will soon pick up. There is so much more room for expansion. A few more context-sensitive actions to expand the controls and I would've been off the roof.
- Gameplay: I can't really comment, because not only have I not had enough time, I've only played one skirmish match, and that was against a bot. You can't really comment on the gameplay through the campaign because if anyone does know RTS campaigns, the gameplay is way different from multiplayer with real people. What I do see though is potential. Though there's the temptation to flood the enemy, it can get really sloppy and with a controller you're bound to just watch the action unfold. I think there will be the option to use smaller armies and harass the enemy because it can be more precise. I will try when I play more skirmish. The leader abilities though... damn... that opens up a wealth of new strategies. I'm really digging the whole leader ability thing.
Well, this is at least one game that is beginning to bring consoles up to speed with PC RTSes. I'm not sure if there's a helluva lot more room for improvement, though. I would think that consoles are more at home with Real-Time Tactics games than macro/micro RTSes.
What I really liked is how they discouraged turtling. It's just very uncomfortable to do in this game. I mean, the option is there, especially with a tech strat, but it's not Age of Empires 2 styIes where everyone would spend an hour building and then send massive armies in a five minute brawl at the end.
I think it'll get AA, maybe AAA.
[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]I really liked the demo. I'd give it AA, but I hope it gets AAA from reviewers to shut all the haters up even more.Chaos_HL21
Halo 3 getting an AAA did not shut up the haters, they just called it overrated and they were paid off by MS.
Okay, piss off all of the haters even more then. ;)You say its unfair, I say its only proper. You can't hide behind a console and use it to pretend that it is somehow an AAA worthy RTS game. You have to measure it up with the other modern conventions as a whole, and it definitely ain't up to AAA snuff.[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Keep-the-Faith"]no.....its this kind of thinking that has to die. Its like comparing Goldeneye to popular fps at the time. Its wrong. You have to judge a game based on the platform its released on. You cant dock points off of Haol wars due to things ***BEYOND ITS CONTROL***. End of story. Again......comparing Halo Wars to PC rts standards is UNFAIR because Halo Wars is being compared to a standard IT CANT LIVE UP TO due to being on a console. Thats why being judged on tis own merits is smart and proper thinking.Keep-the-Faith
to put it bluntly, your way cant work because that would mean holding Halo wars up to a standard it **inherently** cant measure up to, due to it being on a console.
It shoudl be reviewed as a console rts, and only then will it have a shot at AAA
I think you're both a little off. It'sa game that makes RTS accessible to the masses. So if you're a PC RTS die-hard you may not think it measures up. I'm a PC die-hard RTS fan...its the last genre of game I play on a PC. I was disappointed with DoW2 (too much CoH crap...which I didn't like). So to me this is just as good if not better than DoW2. The graphics are both very nice. But HW's style of gameplay just plays better for me, plus I like the slower pacing of the game...it keeps it from being a click fest. I'm saying it's AA definitely. Outside chance at AAA as an awesome RTS that many will find more fun than most PC RTS games. Keep in mind this is like a new type of game to many console gamers who would rate PC RTS games as crap. HW should be rated as it stands...a game.I would hope that they do use some degree of PC standards. RTS and PC standards are kind of married at the hip right now. You can't just have something with an isometric view and call it an RTS. Like another gamespot reviewer has told me regarding another game, "These games don't exist in vacuums". They have to rate it based on other RTS covnentions, largely foudn on PC.Keep-the-Faith
no.....its this kind of thinking that has to die. Its like comparing Goldeneye to popular fps at the time. Its wrong.
You have to judge a game based on the platform its released on. You cant dock points off of Haol wars due to things ***BEYOND ITS CONTROL***. End of story.
Again......comparing Halo Wars to PC rts standards is UNFAIR because Halo Wars is being compared to a standard IT CANT LIVE UP TO due to being on a console.
Thats why being judged on tis own merits is smart and proper thinking.
its no just the control. the games lacks alot depth and is way too simple for.
and i will dock points off halo due to its controls. lmao i do not care about being fair
[QUOTE="Keep-the-Faith"]no.....its this kind of thinking that has to die. Its like comparing Goldeneye to popular fps at the time. Its wrong. You have to judge a game based on the platform its released on. You cant dock points off of Haol wars due to things ***BEYOND ITS CONTROL***. End of story. Again......comparing Halo Wars to PC rts standards is UNFAIR because Halo Wars is being compared to a standard IT CANT LIVE UP TO due to being on a console. Thats why being judged on tis own merits is smart and proper thinking.VandalvideoYou say its unfair, I say its only proper. You can't hide behind a console and use it to pretend that it is somehow an AAA worthy RTS game. You have to measure it up with the other modern conventions as a whole, and it definitely ain't up to AAA snuff.Ain't up to the AAA snuff, c'mon man, I know you are in NO WAY meaning that and being proof positive based on a demo ? Also, my understanding isthe reviewers score will take into consideration what is already available on the system and not on other systems, in this case the PC. If Wii games would be measured against PC games and held to the same standards, me thinks it would lack even one AAA so, just sayin. :P
Easy AAE for this game. Maybe even AAAE here on GS. But Imma saying AAE.xsubtownerx
If it gets an AAAE, it would be a pretty fun time in System wars. However if this gets an AAAE and Killzone 2 was given an AAE (Which it should not get, but this is Gamespot), System wars would explode.
[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Easy AAE for this game. Maybe even AAAE here on GS. But Imma saying AAE.Chaos_HL21
If it gets an AAAE, it would be a pretty fun time in System wars. However if this gets an AAAE and Killzone 2 was given an AAE (Which it should not get, but this is Gamespot), System wars would explode.
Though I think KZ2 will AAA but Wow, that would be the biggest sorta floppage/ownage ever on SW - entertainment to the MAX ![QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Easy AAE for this game. Maybe even AAAE here on GS. But Imma saying AAE.SecretPolice
If it gets an AAAE, it would be a pretty fun time in System wars. However if this gets an AAAE and Killzone 2 was given an AAE (Which it should not get, but this is Gamespot), System wars would explode.
Though I think KZ2 will AAA but Wow, that would be the biggest sorta floppage/ownage ever on SW - entertainment to the MAX !not sure if it would top FF13 at last E3 (thats was fun!) but this scenerio would be up there.
I know i'll enjoy a game when im continuously playing the DEMO. Im gonna say 8.5 or 9.0...It'll BE BOSS!!! :PImOldGregExcellent use of the word " BOSS " Smithers - I enjoyed that and now feeling - too cool for school. :D
Excellent use of the word " BOSS " Smithers - I enjoyed that and now feeling - too cool for school. :D[QUOTE="ImOldGreg"]I know i'll enjoy a game when im continuously playing the DEMO. Im gonna say 8.5 or 9.0...It'll BE BOSS!!! :PSecretPolice
AAAA and GOTY.anshul89
AA, possible AAA if not compared to PC rts standards and a contender (but not winner) for best rts 2009. Thats what I think.
[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Excellent use of the word " BOSS " Smithers - I enjoyed that and now feeling - too cool for school. :D What is it with you and the simpsons tonight? :PNo particular reason, just silly I guess. On the other hand, last night I was on a drinking bender. :lol:[QUOTE="ImOldGreg"]I know i'll enjoy a game when im continuously playing the DEMO. Im gonna say 8.5 or 9.0...It'll BE BOSS!!! :PImOldGreg
On topic, yup, AAE at the least though I'm saying AAA and crossing fingers.
[QUOTE="ImOldGreg"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Excellent use of the word " BOSS " Smithers - I enjoyed that and now feeling - too cool for school. :DWhat is it with you and the simpsons tonight? :PNo particular reason, just silly I guess. On the other hand, last night I was on a drinking bender. :lol:SecretPolice
On topic, yup, AAE at the least though I'm saying AAA and crossing fingers.
...a drinking bender? (facepalm) :P
[QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="ImOldGreg"] What is it with you and the simpsons tonight? :PImOldGregNo particular reason, just silly I guess. On the other hand, last night I was on a drinking bender. :lol:j/k :P
On topic, yup, AAE at the least though I'm saying AAA and crossing fingers.
...a drinking bender? (facepalm) :P
Keep in mind, I said "j/k" Just Kidding. ( palmface ) :PSlang
Okay, no more of this please.
AAAA and GOTY.anshul89You've all ready made numerous posts about how much you hate it, driving the hype up just to see something flop is foolish at best.
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