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#101 Xalaten
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It's Halo. There is no way that it will score lower than AAA. No. Way.

Anyone who says otherwise is lowballing it so they can say "oooo it exceeded hype!".

It will be overrated just like all the other Halo games.

If "Halo Toilet" came out and was a port-o-potty simulator it would score AAA.

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#102 Xalaten
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I should add that I want to be clear about something. It's not fair for a console to be judged by a console's standards. It's simply not. There is no way possible Halo Wars could be better than a game like Total War. It's not humanly possible. However, since people will judge it by console standards I guarantee you it gets rated higher by almost all sites EXCEPT PC sites and then all the lemmings will say "OMG Halo Wars it he best RTS ever!". Mark my words, when it's all said and done according to Gamerankings Halo Wars will be the highest ranking RTS ever. Now can ANYONE on this board, even the most die-hard, xbot drooling lemming, tell me that it truly IS the greatest RTS of all time? Anyone?
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#103 johnnyblazed88
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^^^your wrong, no franchise gets 9's just for being that franchise look at mario, zelda, mgs, etc. they all have had games get below AAA you think halo is different? oh yea you prolly think all the halo games are overrated
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#104 dthach614
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I should add that I want to be clear about something. It's not fair for a console to be judged by a console's standards. It's simply not. There is no way possible Halo Wars could be better than a game like Total War. It's not humanly possible. However, since people will judge it by console standards I guarantee you it gets rated higher by almost all sites EXCEPT PC sites and then all the lemmings will say "OMG Halo Wars it he best RTS ever!". Mark my words, when it's all said and done according to Gamerankings Halo Wars will be the highest ranking RTS ever. Now can ANYONE on this board, even the most die-hard, xbot drooling lemming, tell me that it truly IS the greatest RTS of all time? Anyone?Xalaten

lmao

from now on, lets judge psp fps games differently because they lack dual analog sticks.

lol

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#105 SUD123456
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[QUOTE="Keep-the-Faith"]no.....its this kind of thinking that has to die. Its like comparing Goldeneye to popular fps at the time. Its wrong. You have to judge a game based on the platform its released on. You cant dock points off of Haol wars due to things ***BEYOND ITS CONTROL***. End of story. Again......comparing Halo Wars to PC rts standards is UNFAIR because Halo Wars is being compared to a standard IT CANT LIVE UP TO due to being on a console. Thats why being judged on tis own merits is smart and proper thinking.Vandalvideo
You say its unfair, I say its only proper. You can't hide behind a console and use it to pretend that it is somehow an AAA worthy RTS game. You have to measure it up with the other modern conventions as a whole, and it definitely ain't up to AAA snuff.

The Wii is the runaway sales leader and darling of the vg industry.

It has motion sensing.

Motion sensing is therefore the new modern standard.

Ergo, all games without it are phail.

Or, the PC has the highest game resolutions. It is therefore the modern standard by which all games on all platforms should be measured for graphics.

Ergo, the Wii is phail, and so is the PS3 and 360.

DS and PSP games don't have the same _______(fill in blank) as console games/PC games.

Ergo, all DS and PSP games are phail.

The modern standard for speed/acceleration is a Bugatti Veyron, McLaren F1 or similar $1M+ exotic.

Ergo, all other vehicles are phail.

Or maybe your logic is phail.

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#106 II-FBIsniper-II
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I just realized that Right trigger cycles through units. That makes managing individual units much easier. Why wasn't that in the tutorial. :x
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#107 stiltzsy
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Keep-the-Faith"]no.....its this kind of thinking that has to die. Its like comparing Goldeneye to popular fps at the time. Its wrong. You have to judge a game based on the platform its released on. You cant dock points off of Haol wars due to things ***BEYOND ITS CONTROL***. End of story. Again......comparing Halo Wars to PC rts standards is UNFAIR because Halo Wars is being compared to a standard IT CANT LIVE UP TO due to being on a console. Thats why being judged on tis own merits is smart and proper thinking.SUD123456

You say its unfair, I say its only proper. You can't hide behind a console and use it to pretend that it is somehow an AAA worthy RTS game. You have to measure it up with the other modern conventions as a whole, and it definitely ain't up to AAA snuff.

The Wii is the runaway sales leader and darling of the vg industry.

It has motion sensing.

Motion sensing is therefore the new modern standard.

Ergo, all games without it are phail.

Or, the PC has the highest game resolutions. It is therefore the modern standard by which all games on all platforms should be measured for graphics.

Ergo, the Wii is phail, and so is the PS3 and 360.

DS and PSP games don't have the same _______(fill in blank) as console games/PC games.

Ergo, all DS and PSP games are phail.

The modern standard for speed/acceleration is a Bugatti Veyron, McLaren F1 or similar $1M+ exotic.

Ergo, all other vehicles are phail.

Or maybe your logic is phail.

I vote for the last option...his logic is phail.
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#108 Keep-the-Faith
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[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] You say its unfair, I say its only proper. You can't hide behind a console and use it to pretend that it is somehow an AAA worthy RTS game. You have to measure it up with the other modern conventions as a whole, and it definitely ain't up to AAA snuff.stiltzsy

The Wii is the runaway sales leader and darling of the vg industry.

It has motion sensing.

Motion sensing is therefore the new modern standard.

Ergo, all games without it are phail.

Or, the PC has the highest game resolutions. It is therefore the modern standard by which all games on all platforms should be measured for graphics.

Ergo, the Wii is phail, and so is the PS3 and 360.

DS and PSP games don't have the same _______(fill in blank) as console games/PC games.

Ergo, all DS and PSP games are phail.

The modern standard for speed/acceleration is a Bugatti Veyron, McLaren F1 or similar $1M+ exotic.

Ergo, all other vehicles are phail.

Or maybe your logic is phail.

I vote for the last option...his logic is phail.

therefore I win!!!!! (since i debated with him)

halo Wars should be judged on its own merits and should not be held up to PC standards as they are standards it naturally cant match.

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#109 stiltzsy
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I should add that I want to be clear about something. It's not fair for a console to be judged by a console's standards. It's simply not. There is no way possible Halo Wars could be better than a game like Total War. It's not humanly possible. However, since people will judge it by console standards I guarantee you it gets rated higher by almost all sites EXCEPT PC sites and then all the lemmings will say "OMG Halo Wars it he best RTS ever!". Mark my words, when it's all said and done according to Gamerankings Halo Wars will be the highest ranking RTS ever. Now can ANYONE on this board, even the most die-hard, xbot drooling lemming, tell me that it truly IS the greatest RTS of all time? Anyone?Xalaten
You can't compare across generations and you really can't compare PC RTS vs. Console RTS. As pointed out above by a couple of people...should we judge all games by a single standard? If so, nearly all games will get crap ratings. If we set the bar at a $3000 PC (always updated to be sure it is top-of-the-line) including all the gizmos and controllers it takes to play the game in its best way possible...then everything else is a failure. Including PC games that you bring home to your less than top-of-the-line PC that is about 9 monhts old. Oh ya, and for online to be fair all PCs have to have the same setup as they due in many gamer competitions...if you play with others on line without the same exact setup it's a fail.
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#110 no_handlebars
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Ugh. I still need to go over my friend's house so that I can play the demo. Unfortunately, he's been sick lately. I'm really looking forward to playing it though.
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#111 stiltzsy
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[QUOTE="Keep-the-Faith"]

therefore I win!!!!! (since i debated with him)

halo Wars should be judged on its own merits and should not be held up to PC standards as they are standards it naturally cant match.

No one wins when they try to debate vandal...he's been owned pretty hard in the past and proven wrong but he never admits to even the most obvious thing. I remember one time he claimed that he thought renting games was wrong. But then turned around and said he could play the latest greatest games for $5/month all he wants at a local internet cafe (console and PC games). When pressed for the name of the place (because that's one heck of a deal) he coudn't remember it even though he plays there all the time. Nor could he recall what geographic area of the country it was in. Bascially trying to debate him is like debating a dog. They both make a lot of noise but it doesn't make any sense.
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#112 stiltzsy
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...should not be held up to PC standards as they are standards it naturally cant match. Keep-the-Faith
I wouldn't say they are higher standards they are different standards. Just like PSP doesn't have dual analog, but then again I can't bring my PS3 on an airplane with me and play games or watch movies. Also a console game has advantages of the closed system...could you imaging if Halo Wars required the user to go and find the right drivers to make it work with their TV? That's common in PC gaming, but unheard of in Console gaming. We don't ding PC games for needing the latest video card driver (as long as it does work after the update), but we woudl ding a console for such garbage. Different standards.
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#113 Chaos_HL21
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Though I think KZ2 will AAA but Wow, that would be the biggest sorta floppage/ownage ever on SW - entertainment to the MAX !

SecretPolice

Yeah I think Killzone 2 will get AAA, from playing the demo. But this is Gamespot so anything is possible. But if Halo Wars out scores Killzone 2, I think we should head toward a Vault, because the fallout of that could be the worst fallout in SystemWars history.

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#114 stiltzsy
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[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Though I think KZ2 will AAA but Wow, that would be the biggest sorta floppage/ownage ever on SW - entertainment to the MAX !

Yeah I think Killzone 2 will get AAA, from playing the demo. But this is Gamespot so anything is possible. But if Halo Wars out scores Killzone 2, I think we should head toward a Vault, because the fallout of that could be the worst fallout in SystemWars history.

Not going to happen. RTS gamers are more of a niche crowd than are FPS gamers. So I expect KZ2 to get a more relaxed review and HW be a bit more critical.
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#115 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="Xalaten"]I should add that I want to be clear about something. It's not fair for a console to be judged by a console's standards. It's simply not.

Ah, so I can start comparing, say...CORE on the DS to Crysis, just because they're both FPS games, right? I mean, that's "fair", is it not?
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#116 xsubtownerx
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It's Halo. There is no way that it will score lower than AAA. No. Way.

Anyone who says otherwise is lowballing it so they can say "oooo it exceeded hype!".

It will be overrated just like all the other Halo games.

If "Halo Toilet" came out and was a port-o-potty simulator it would score AAA.

Xalaten
hey, now you know how I feel about the MGS series. :D
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#117 Xalaten
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Games CAN be just as entertaining on a handheld as they can on a console. The difference is graphics and things like enemies on screen due to processing power. These are things that CAN'T be compared so they aren't. However, Consoles CAN directly be compared to pcs because, aside from graphics and controls, there really isn't a large difference. If what you say is true, then this whole FORUM is wrong because people on this forum CONSTANTLY compare PC games to Console games. CONSTANTLY. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Either they SHOULD be judged the same or they shouldn't and if they shouldn't then a game on a console should be held to ONLY other console standards. In other words, just because Halo was rated higher than Half Life 2 does NOT mean it is a better game. You yourself said you can't compare consoles to pcs where rts are concerned so why is it suddenly OK to count them where FPS are concerned? Oh right, I know, because a game like Halo scored higher. That's called cherry picking. A perfect example is this. Halo 2 scored higher than Half Life 2 yet Half Life 2 won game of the year almost unanimously across most websites. That should tell you something right there. The only thing I'm saying is this. If Halo Wars scores a 9 or 9.5 like I think it will, does that mean it's a better RTS than a game like Rome Total War? It's clearly NOT yet it would score higher and you know the lemmings will start saying "best rts ever!!!!". You want to pick and choose when it matters and when it doesn't. That's. Not. Fair.
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#118 Verge_6
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However, Consoles CAN directly be compared to pcs because, aside from graphics and controls, there really isn't a large difference. Xalaten
lol, wut? The hardware differences betwee a console and even a mid-low range gaming rig are astronomical. Not just in regards of graphical output, but things like memory, processing power, etc. etc. And that's to say nothing of the control schemes (which are by no means easily dismissable) and intended audience. You're just coming off as another stereotypical "Halo is teh overrated" poster.
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#119 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Keep-the-Faith"]no.....its this kind of thinking that has to die. Its like comparing Goldeneye to popular fps at the time. Its wrong. You have to judge a game based on the platform its released on. You cant dock points off of Haol wars due to things ***BEYOND ITS CONTROL***. End of story. Again......comparing Halo Wars to PC rts standards is UNFAIR because Halo Wars is being compared to a standard IT CANT LIVE UP TO due to being on a console. Thats why being judged on tis own merits is smart and proper thinking.SUD123456

You say its unfair, I say its only proper. You can't hide behind a console and use it to pretend that it is somehow an AAA worthy RTS game. You have to measure it up with the other modern conventions as a whole, and it definitely ain't up to AAA snuff.

The Wii is the runaway sales leader and darling of the vg industry.

It has motion sensing.

Motion sensing is therefore the new modern standard.

Ergo, all games without it are phail.

Or, the PC has the highest game resolutions. It is therefore the modern standard by which all games on all platforms should be measured for graphics.

Ergo, the Wii is phail, and so is the PS3 and 360.

DS and PSP games don't have the same _______(fill in blank) as console games/PC games.

Ergo, all DS and PSP games are phail.

The modern standard for speed/acceleration is a Bugatti Veyron, McLaren F1 or similar $1M+ exotic.

Ergo, all other vehicles are phail.

Or maybe your logic is phail.

Fail post is fail. The facts of the matter are you can't pretend games exist in a vacuum. I tried to do it with Too Human, but realized that it wasn't fair. Otherwise Too Human would have been an AAA title.
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#120 Vandalvideo
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Ain't up to the AAA snuff, c'mon man, I know you are in NO WAY meaning that and being proof positive based on a demo ? Also, my understanding isthe reviewers score will take into consideration what is already available on the system and not on other systems, in this case the PC. If Wii games would be measured against PC games and held to the same standards, me thinks it would lack even one AAA so, just sayin. :PSecretPolice
To quote Kevin Van'Ord, these games don't exist in vacuums. Too Human was easily the best, if not one of the only next gen ARPG hack and slash titles. By all accounts, because its on consoles, it deserves an AAA title by the same logic.
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#121 angelkimne
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Just played it, and it's pretty good. The controls work well and the graphics are great.

Only problem is with the super annoying hard-to-read-on-SDTV text :twisted:

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#122 one_on_one
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I'm not an RTS fan, but this game feels like a solid AA game. That's great especially when it's a console RTS.
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#123 robobie
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I'm gonna go with AA but it would be nice for it to get AAA
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#124 tymeservesfate
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A functioning rts on a console. That's an achievement. I'm goin on a limb and hyping it AAAE. With any justice it will be. I barely played a rts before Halo Wars n picked it up and had a blast. Its wat a video game should be accessible, fun, and entertaining(the cutscenes are awesome). A definite buy.