Valve: Orange Box Uses 93 - 94% of 360 Power, PS3 Using No SPU's

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#151 sirk1264
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[QUOTE="sirk1264"]

[QUOTE="swanlee"]Found this bit of info from a mod at TeamXbox, seems this story is taken from forum posts at PS3 forums from a poster pretending to be a dev from Valve. http://forum.teamxbox.com/showpost.php?p=9851442&postcount=36 "I call fake. That interview is complete and utter BS. Those quotes are taken from a poster pretending to be a dev at PS3forums. Here's where blue Fantasy had it out with him. The TXB thread is the cliffs, the other is where it happened. http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=540058 http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=91194 Not using SPUs"Squall_Griver

I knew something was fishy about that so called article. Not using any SPU's made it sound not credible. It also sounded very biased. I'm sure valve is using SPU's for HL2: The orange Box.


Yeah hes a dev,im pretty sure
http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=91194&page=2
Note the orange Color for his name,which i guess imply's some one with a higher power than the avrage users
and under its name it says "Industry Insider"

The fact its talked about in a forum holds no credibility not to mention its in ps3forums.com where its mostly pro sony.

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#152 SpaceMatt
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[QUOTE="desktopdefender"]Vavle make really good games and all........but somtimes i really wish they would shut uplegalize3

:lol:

damage control at its finest

just exept it xbox360 is not as powerfull as microsoft makes you believe..

94% in its 3rd year lol xbox720 on its way

It's a fake!

The guy who posted on that PS 3 forum, "HalfLifeDev," admitted he was just 18, and that he "worked" for Vivendi, which by court ruling has nothing to do with the Half Life franchise.

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#153 -wii60-
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[QUOTE="desktopdefender"]Vavle make really good games and all........but somtimes i really wish they would shut uplegalize3

:lol:

damage control at its finest

just exept it xbox360 is not as powerfull as microsoft makes you believe..

94% in its 3rd year lol xbox720 on its way



Oh poor fanboy claiming ownage with something that is fake i feel sorry for u :(
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#154 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="desktopdefender"]Vavle make really good games and all........but somtimes i really wish they would shut uplegalize3

:lol:

damage control at its finest

just exept it xbox360 is not as powerfull as microsoft makes you believe..

94% in its 3rd year lol xbox720 on its way

Notice how the Valve developer said 94% in their current level of optimization. Their optimization could be really crappy. No game in the entire HL 2 Orange box looks as good as Gears of War, Bioshock or Mass Effect from what I've seen and neither of the games I mentioned have been said touse more than 90% of the 360's power.

The Xbox 360 is far from being maxed out. Future games will only prove my point as the generation progresses.

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#155 Xenoww
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Ive heard that the ps3 version is going to run on 1080p
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#156 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="desktopdefender"]Vavle make really good games and all........but somtimes i really wish they would shut uplegalize3

:lol:

damage control at its finest

just exept it xbox360 is not as powerfull as microsoft makes you believe..

94% in its 3rd year lol xbox720 on its way

...Is reading comprehension REALLY that hard for fanboys to grasp? I mean, are our school truly this incompetent nowadays?

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#157 Nerkcon
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I think we are all missing the point. We know Gear sod War and Halo 3 are better then Half-Life tech wise. We know with THEIR engine the 360 is almost maxed out. But that's thing thing, they can still do a lot more with the PS3 while the 360 almost has nothing else to give them. We call BSif the 360 version is the better looking one again.
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#158 -wii60-
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The sad thing that HalfLifeDev Got pwned on the second page of the thread by two guys. :lol:

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#159 Sonic_on_crack
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I guess Alan Wake must use 200% power then
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#160 SpaceMatt
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The sad thing that HalfLifeDev Got pwned in the second page of the thread by two guys. :lol:


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The sad thing is HalfLifeDev got owned on the second page of the thread by two guys, and there are still blind fanboys who are willing to believe him just because it bashes the 360

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#161 legol1
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you know to me its more like we cant figure how to use the spu so ps3 will have a downgraded version like every other multiplat hahahahahahahahaha
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#162 Maverick_Chaos1
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93 - 94% My arse.

My Geforce 6600 runs the source engine on high @ 40-60 fps, and that GPU is awful by today's standards.

If Gears of War used a little less than 33% of 360's power , HL2 (a game running on a far more primitive engine) should take up less.

Although there are more physics in the source engine, it shouldn't pose a major problem. Valve's 360 optimisation must really suck.

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#163 -wii60-
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93 - 94% My arse.

My Geforce 6600 runs the source engine on high @ 40-60 fps, and that GPU is awful by today's standards.

If Gears of War used a little less than 33% of 360's power , HL2 (a game running on a far more primitive engine) should take up less.

Although there are more physics in the source engine, it shouldn't pose a major problem. Valve's 360 optimisation must really suck.

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Its fake..
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#164 audioaxes
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this is a joke

what ever raw processing power advantage the ps3 may or may not be able to optimize out will be bottlenecked by gpu and memory constraints

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#165 snyper1982
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[QUOTE="killaj2786"]

Look at the site: Playstation Universe

and I can name 5 games that already look better than that.

Ps3Solider

typical lemming response. dont be such a fanboy and get your fact straight. The person saying all this is Valve not PSU. All PSU did was ask about the difference between the two. Valve is the one that stated the above.

Dude, he said that it is all placed on the GPU and the Cell. Well the SPE's are a part of the cell. What a moron. I find this highly skeptical at the least.

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#166 Stall0wn3d
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I was discussing this in the other thread and i just realised; playstation universe. In other words, the ramblings of a fanboy.Ninja-Vox
oh... wow...
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#167 snyper1982
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Its obvious that the ps3 is a much more powerful system..Its kinda funny when lemmings compare their games to the ps3 when its only out for a half a year..and able to match almost all 360 games out there at the moment..Next year will be the best for all ps3 owners..we goin to have amazing lookin and great games..ps3gen

The only thing OBVIOUS right now, is how much of a fanboy you are.

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#168 Mystery_Writer
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so if the game comes out and it looks better on X360, what will be the reason? lazy devs?
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#169 elite_ferns1
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Cows take specs too literally. Most of you don't even understand simple computing physics. The asymetrical cell is just a different processing unit compared to the tri-core symetrical xenon in the 360.

that whole 90% of full power is nothing more than statements since there are a whole lot of better looking games than half-life 2.

To summerize, graphics are not determined by the power given, but how the power is used. Do you use it for subtle texturing (like halo 3), or do you use it for over texturing (like gears), do you use it for physics, AI etc.

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#170 SpaceMatt
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Cows take specs too literally. Most of you don't even understand simple computing physics. The asymetrical cell is just a different processing unit compared to the tri-core symetrical xenon in the 360.

that whole 90% of full power is nothing more than statements since there are a whole lot of better looking games than half-life 2.

To summerize, graphics are not determined by the power given, but how the power is used. Do you use it for subtle texturing (like halo 3), or do you use it for over texturing (like gears), do you use it for physics, AI etc.

elite_ferns1

It's a fake!

The guy who said all of this is an 18 year old kid, who claimed to be working at Vivendi, which is in no way connected with the Half-Life 2 Orange Box that's being released.

Not to mention the fact that HL 2 came out on the original Xbox... does anyone really think that it would push the 360 to near-100% system capacity?

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#171 -wii60-
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Cows take specs too literally. Most of you don't even understand simple computing physics. The asymetrical cell is just a different processing unit compared to the tri-core symetrical xenon in the 360.

that whole 90% of full power is nothing more than statements since there are a whole lot of better looking games than half-life 2.

To summerize, graphics are not determined by the power given, but how the power is used. Do you use it for subtle texturing (like halo 3), or do you use it for over texturing (like gears), do you use it for physics, AI etc.

elite_ferns1


Don't even bother explaining even when all what ''HalfLifeDev'' said was fake.
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#172 Meu2k7
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Better do what he says, they mean buisness!

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#174 Maverick_Chaos1
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93 - 94% My arse.

My Geforce 6600 runs the source engine on high @ 40-60 fps, and that GPU is awful by today's standards.

If Gears of War used a little less than 33% of 360's power , HL2 (a game running on a far more primitive engine) should take up less.

Although there are more physics in the source engine, it shouldn't pose a major problem. Valve's 360 optimisation must really suck.

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Its fake..

Fair enough