[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="soulitane"] Why do I care? Who even said I had a gaming PC? Yet again, your reading comprehension is severely lacking. I just find it amusing to win in arguments against people and with you, that's not very hard it seems. My argument is always that my console setup is better than hermits PC setups. And it is Not what we were discussing. It's always what I'm discussing
[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"] My argument is always that my console setup is better than hermits PC setups. And it is Not what we were discussing. It's always what I'm discussing Yet again though, not what this discussion was about. If you didn't understand, then that's ok, not all of us are equal.
[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"]You asked "how could your TV make 720p look better than 1080p" I answered Cry more Which any smart individual would see where that point was moving on to. Are you claiming that you were unaware of the true reason behind it? I guess my earlier observations are proving to be correct.
[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"]You asked "how could your TV make 720p look better than 1080p" I answered Cry more Which any smart individual would see where that point was moving on to. Are you claiming that you were unaware of the true reason behind it? I guess my earlier observations are proving to be correct. A smart individual wouldn't even ask such a question because they'd know that resolution is the 4th most important aspect to picture quality behind contrast, saturation, and accuracy.
[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"]You asked "how could your TV make 720p look better than 1080p" I answered Cry more Which any smart individual would see where that point was moving on to. Are you claiming that you were unaware of the true reason behind it? I guess my earlier observations are proving to be correct. A smart individual wouldn't even ask such a question because they'd know that resolution is the 4th most important aspect to picture quality behind contrast, saturation, and accuracy. Which again is missing the point of my question, though, at this point I'm not very surprised, not all of us were made to be thinkers.
[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="soulitane"] Which any smart individual would see where that point was moving on to. Are you claiming that you were unaware of the true reason behind it? I guess my earlier observations are proving to be correct. A smart individual wouldn't even ask such a question because they'd know that resolution is the 4th most important aspect to picture quality behind contrast, saturation, and accuracy. Which again is missing the point of my question, though, at this point I'm not very surprised, not all of us were made to be thinkers. Lol well that's one way to damage control a lost debate. Good job. "Buh buh you're not a deep enough thinker to realize the real point of my stupid question"
[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"] A smart individual wouldn't even ask such a question because they'd know that resolution is the 4th most important aspect to picture quality behind contrast, saturation, and accuracy.m3Boarder32
Which again is missing the point of my question, though, at this point I'm not very surprised, not all of us were made to be thinkers. Lol well that's one way to damage control a lost debate. Good job. "Buh buh you're not a deep enough thinker to realize the real point of my stupid question" I'll explain then since you're obviously not keeping up. The point behind my question was as to how your TV could make 720p look better than 1080p on the same TV. So, in other words, it was more of a rhetorical question because I already knew it wasn't possible, since 1080p will always look better on a 1080p screen compared to 720p on the same screen. So in other words, his PC, on your TV will look better because it will be running games at 1080p opposed to the 720p that most console games use, which isn't taking into account the added effects. So, ie, if you wish to have the best visuals currently (especially if you're a videophile), a PC will be your best bet. Now do you understand? I apologise though, next time I'll be a little more up front with what I'm meaning, since apparantly you aren't able to follow.
[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="soulitane"] Which again is missing the point of my question, though, at this point I'm not very surprised, not all of us were made to be thinkers.soulitane
Lol well that's one way to damage control a lost debate. Good job. "Buh buh you're not a deep enough thinker to realize the real point of my stupid question" I'll explain then since you're obviously not keeping up. The point behind my question was as to how your TV could make 720p look better than 1080p on the same TV. So, in other words, it was more of a rhetorical question because I already knew it wasn't possible, since 1080p will always look better on a 1080p screen compared to 720p on the same screen. So in other words, his PC, on your TV will look better because it will be running games at 1080p opposed to the 720p that most console games use, which isn't taking into account the added effects. So, ie, if you wish to have the best visuals currently (especially if you're a videophile), a PC will be your best bet. Now do you understand? I apologise though, next time I'll be a little more up front with what I'm meaning, since apparantly you aren't able to follow. My console setup > his PC setup Do u understand?
[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"] Yeah it is, unless u love strategy games. I haven't found a strategy game I liked since the OG Command & Conquer, is there anything like it out now? m3Boarder32
Liar. You love your PC like it was your child.
Nah, I love my children like they were my children :)
[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"] Lol well that's one way to damage control a lost debate. Good job. "Buh buh you're not a deep enough thinker to realize the real point of my stupid question"m3Boarder32
I'll explain then since you're obviously not keeping up. The point behind my question was as to how your TV could make 720p look better than 1080p on the same TV. So, in other words, it was more of a rhetorical question because I already knew it wasn't possible, since 1080p will always look better on a 1080p screen compared to 720p on the same screen. So in other words, his PC, on your TV will look better because it will be running games at 1080p opposed to the 720p that most console games use, which isn't taking into account the added effects. So, ie, if you wish to have the best visuals currently (especially if you're a videophile), a PC will be your best bet. Now do you understand? I apologise though, next time I'll be a little more up front with what I'm meaning, since apparantly you aren't able to follow. My console setup > his PC setup Do u understand? Not what I was arguing, do you understand? It's amusing, when you're confronted by logic you try and deflect.
[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="soulitane"] Which again is missing the point of my question, though, at this point I'm not very surprised, not all of us were made to be thinkers.soulitane
Lol well that's one way to damage control a lost debate. Good job. "Buh buh you're not a deep enough thinker to realize the real point of my stupid question" I'll explain then since you're obviously not keeping up. The point behind my question was as to how your TV could make 720p look better than 1080p on the same TV. So, in other words, it was more of a rhetorical question because I already knew it wasn't possible, since 1080p will always look better on a 1080p screen compared to 720p on the same screen. So in other words, his PC, on your TV will look better because it will be running games at 1080p opposed to the 720p that most console games use, which isn't taking into account the added effects. So, ie, if you wish to have the best visuals currently (especially if you're a videophile), a PC will be your best bet. Now do you understand? I apologise though, next time I'll be a little more up front with what I'm meaning, since apparantly you aren't able to follow.
Don't bother with him. He's ashamed that his love for his PC burns far more passionately than it does for his family. This is the only way he can cope.
[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="soulitane"] I'll explain then since you're obviously not keeping up. The point behind my question was as to how your TV could make 720p look better than 1080p on the same TV. So, in other words, it was more of a rhetorical question because I already knew it wasn't possible, since 1080p will always look better on a 1080p screen compared to 720p on the same screen. So in other words, his PC, on your TV will look better because it will be running games at 1080p opposed to the 720p that most console games use, which isn't taking into account the added effects. So, ie, if you wish to have the best visuals currently (especially if you're a videophile), a PC will be your best bet. Now do you understand? I apologise though, next time I'll be a little more up front with what I'm meaning, since apparantly you aren't able to follow.soulitane
My console setup > his PC setup Do u understand? Not what I was arguing, do you understand? It's amusing, when you're confronted by logic you try and deflect. Nah it's amusing seeing people beg me to connect my PC to my console setup
[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"] My console setup > his PC setup Do u understand? Not what I was arguing, do you understand? It's amusing, when you're confronted by logic you try and deflect. Nah it's amusing seeing people beg me to connect my PC to my console setup Again deflecting, oh well, I'm getting bored dealing with simpletons, have fun spending your life coming on to a gaming forum to defend your setup.
[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="soulitane"] Not what I was arguing, do you understand? It's amusing, when you're confronted by logic you try and deflect. Nah it's amusing seeing people beg me to connect my PC to my console setup Again deflecting, oh well, I'm getting bored dealing with simpletons, have fun spending your life coming on to a gaming forum to defend your setup. I'm sure next time we chat you'll still be begging me to connect my PC to my console setup :) It's what u do everytime :)
steam survey means jack. Many people have old pc/laptops and play free to play or other games that are not demanding. I would not call those "gaming PC's". I have a gtx 780 and a 3570k, i think i will be allright. Atleast pc games are scaleable and people with cheap machines can still play the same games - with low settings and resolution. Imagine if Ps4 games could be played on ps3?
steam survey means jack. Many people have old pc/laptops and play free to play or other games that are not demanding. I would not call those "gaming PC's". I have a gtx 780 and a 3570k, i think i will be allright. Atleast pc games are scaleable and people with cheap machines can still play the same games - with low settings and resolution. Imagine if Ps4 games could be played on ps3?
consoletroll
But in Infamous SS you wouldn't be able to absorb neon light, no touchpad :P
My wifes PC doesn't but she still has a Steam installed and an account, she never plays anything more complicated than Howrse and Candy Crush, therefore no need to upgrade it.
This is hardly strange percentage wise, given the number of people who have Steam.
Calling the majority of those people "PC gamers" is a colossal misnomer, however.
syztem
+100 Jesus people. If you really think consoles can compete in ANY realm, except exclusives, with PC's (graphics and sharpness especially), you're talking out of your ass.
Not surprising really considering the vast majority of PC games have a rig that is older and underpowered by todays standards.
Most PC gamers on forums will brag about how big and awesome their huge throbbing PC is and love to try and shove that big engorged PC into everyones face they can constantly online, but they are the minority. Most PC gamers play little rinky dink games on weaker systems. I know, I worked for a computer company for awhile as the lead tech and I was surprised anytime I opened one with a cpu or a gpu that was made in the past few years.
But its always the PC fanboys that brag about their systems that are the loudest, even though they are the fewest so it seems like there are just millions and millions of PC gamers with big bad ass computers. They try to make the most noise because they are in the least numbers.
My wifes PC doesn't but she still has a Steam installed and an account, she never plays anything more complicated than Howrse and Candy Crush, therefore no need to upgrade it.
GarGx1
Lol my Console Setup takes a dump on your PC Setup
Not surprising really considering the vast majority of PC games have a rig that is older and underpowered by todays standards.
Most PC gamers on forums will brag about how big and awesome their huge throbbing PC is and love to try and shove that big engorged PC into everyones face they can constantly online, but they are the minority. Most PC gamers play little rinky dink games on weaker systems. I know, I worked for a computer company for awhile as the lead tech and I was surprised anytime I opened one with a cpu or a gpu that was made in the past few years.
But its always the PC fanboys that brag about their systems that are the loudest, even though they are the fewest so it seems like there are just millions and millions of PC gamers with big bad ass computers. They try to make the most noise because they are in the least numbers.
Gargus
If this was true , nvidia and amd would be out of business. How many gpu's does nvidia(makes nothing but graphics cards) need to sell to make a profit and justify production? How many to justify a new process/die shrink?? Millions of people do have bad ass computers , you don't. Maybe when you grow up or grow some brain cells you can afford a nice pc as well.
[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="123Sippi"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]And all of todays consoles are underpowered. What do you expect, the majority of users on Steam eclipsing unreleased consoles? That's silly. im sure not seeing it That's because your blind and in denial that current consoles are way behind in the times with concerns with hardware. in 2005 the 360 was ahead of the game with hardware and MS paid for it too. in 2006 PS3 released and it was still better then most pc's. However that same time frame as the PS3 released the 8800GTX was unleashed providing 3x the performance with 3x the memory then either console. Fast forward in 2013 these upcoming consoles are not even in the same ratio as before with power. Cpu wise these consoles are packing low end low tdp cpu's meant for laptops and tablets and are not any faster then desktop quad core cpu's from 2008 onward. then we move onto the gpu where using the PS4 as the base as being the fastest of the two is already nearly two years behind in processing performance. i didnt see that difference vs ps3 exclusives or xbox 360 exclusives and again this gen the same thing
My wifes PC doesn't but she still has a Steam installed and an account, she never plays anything more complicated than Howrse and Candy Crush, therefore no need to upgrade it.
m3Boarder32
Lol my Console Setup takes a dump on your PC Setup Nobody cares about your TV or speaker set up. Everyone owns a tv.
[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="123Sippi"] im sure not seeing it Same Console games look amazing on my plasma My pc on your tv looks sooo much better then your console games on your plasma :shock: cause your pc games are first and foremost made for tiny screens then blown up when your tv screen and your pc cant run my console exclusives better at all or near my console
[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] My pc on your tv looks sooo much better then your console games on your plasma :shock: You've never seen ur PC on my TV Using basic logic would say that it would, better picture quality along with better effects etc. I'm curious as to how your TV could possibly make 720p look better than 1080p? cause your pc cant run my 720p exclusives at 1080p or higher or even 720p
[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="soulitane"] So his PC can't possibly take advantage of these things? Not without the TV obviously That's not what we're talking about, he said on YOUR TV, his PC would look better than current consoles. You're dodging the question yet again, though I guess reading comprehension isn't exactly your best attribute. multiplats only cause developers purposely make pc games look better so pc nerds like you wont cry
[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"] Not without the TV obviously That's not what we're talking about, he said on YOUR TV, his PC would look better than current consoles. You're dodging the question yet again, though I guess reading comprehension isn't exactly your best attribute. All he can do is guess that it would look better. It's funny watching hermits beg me to connect my PC to my living room setup lol, sorry kids it ain't happening. A least you guys admit that PC Gaming is at its best when imitating consoles. I guess it's true, imitation is the fondest form of flattery so so true
[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"] Not without the TV obviously 123Sippi
That's not what we're talking about, he said on YOUR TV, his PC would look better than current consoles. You're dodging the question yet again, though I guess reading comprehension isn't exactly your best attribute. multiplats only cause developers purposely make pc games look better so pc nerds like you wont cry
you seem to be the one crying, looking at all the damage control you keep spamming
[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="soulitane"] Why do I care? Who even said I had a gaming PC? Yet again, your reading comprehension is severely lacking. I just find it amusing to win in arguments against people and with you, that's not very hard it seems. soulitane
My argument is always that my console setup is better than hermits PC setups. And it is Not what we were discussing, read through our discussion and show me anywhere where I denied that?
My point is, if one wants the best picture quality, for the moment, PC will always win, if the screen is equal. You haven't been able to disprove this and just tend to ignore it.
[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="soulitane"]That's not what we're talking about, he said on YOUR TV, his PC would look better than current consoles. You're dodging the question yet again, though I guess reading comprehension isn't exactly your best attribute.soulitane
All he can do is guess that it would look better. It's funny watching hermits beg me to connect my PC to my living room setup lol, sorry kids it ain't happening. A least you guys admit that PC Gaming is at its best when imitating consoles. I guess it's true, imitation is the fondest form of flattery It's not guess work, basic logic would say it does in fact look better. Who's begging you? Again, your reading comprehension skills are quite lacking. Imitating consoles? How so? PC has the option to be hooked up to a TV, just like a console has the option to be hooked up to a monitor, no imitations, just options. hooked up to a monitor wouldnt matter for consoles since games for consoles arent natively made for monitors like pc games
[QUOTE="123Sippi"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="123Sippi"] im sure not seeing it That's because your blind and in denial that current consoles are way behind in the times with concerns with hardware. in 2005 the 360 was ahead of the game with hardware and MS paid for it too. in 2006 PS3 released and it was still better then most pc's. However that same time frame as the PS3 released the 8800GTX was unleashed providing 3x the performance with 3x the memory then either console. Fast forward in 2013 these upcoming consoles are not even in the same ratio as before with power. Cpu wise these consoles are packing low end low tdp cpu's meant for laptops and tablets and are not any faster then desktop quad core cpu's from 2008 onward. then we move onto the gpu where using the PS4 as the base as being the fastest of the two is already nearly two years behind in processing performance. i didnt see that difference vs ps3 exclusives or xbox 360 exclusives and again this gen the same thing I agree with you 100%, preach it brotha
My wifes PC doesn't but she still has a Steam installed and an account, she never plays anything more complicated than Howrse and Candy Crush, therefore no need to upgrade it.
GarGx1
i cant see it vs exclusives even your cg cutscene graphics vs ingame ps4 graphics and xbox one ingame graphics
[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="123Sippi"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] That's because your blind and in denial that current consoles are way behind in the times with concerns with hardware. in 2005 the 360 was ahead of the game with hardware and MS paid for it too. in 2006 PS3 released and it was still better then most pc's. However that same time frame as the PS3 released the 8800GTX was unleashed providing 3x the performance with 3x the memory then either console. Fast forward in 2013 these upcoming consoles are not even in the same ratio as before with power. Cpu wise these consoles are packing low end low tdp cpu's meant for laptops and tablets and are not any faster then desktop quad core cpu's from 2008 onward. then we move onto the gpu where using the PS4 as the base as being the fastest of the two is already nearly two years behind in processing performance. i didnt see that difference vs ps3 exclusives or xbox 360 exclusives and again this gen the same thing I agree with you 100%, preach it brotha the pc fanboy presence is strong here though
My wifes PC doesn't but she still has a Steam installed and an account, she never plays anything more complicated than Howrse and Candy Crush, therefore no need to upgrade it.
consoletroll
Lol my Console Setup takes a dump on your PC Setup Nobody cares about your TV or speaker set up. Everyone owns a tv. Not every TV/monitor is created equal. 1440p LCD's suck
[QUOTE="123Sippi"][QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"] Same Console games look amazing on my plasma Compared to what? Last gen console games? nope any game pc isnt looking impressive with graphics other than games that aim for photorealism He was asking me dude. I'll answer: Compared to PC games on my 1440p LCD
All a PC gamer need to do to crush next-gen consoles is upgrade the CPU to an AMD 8350 and the GPU to a 780 which has 3.9 TFLOP (vs PS4's 1.8 TFLOP or XONE's 1.3 TFLOP). The upgrade would set back a gamer only $850. That's loose change for most gamers. Game over buddy, game over.
All a PC gamer need to do to crush next-gen consoles is upgrade the CPU to an AMD 8350 and the GPU to a 780 which has 3.9 TFLOP (vs PS4's 1.8 TFLOP or XONE's 1.3 TFLOP). The upgrade would set back a gamer only $850. That's loose change for most gamers. Game over buddy, game over. Kjranu
This is stupid Now you are assuming that PC gamer already has a 600+ watt PSU and a AM3+ motherboard.
[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="123Sippi"][QUOTE="Cranler"] Compared to what? Last gen console games? nope any game pc isnt looking impressive with graphics other than games that aim for photorealism He was asking me dude. I'll answer: Compared to PC games on my 1440p LCD How much time to you spend in front of the tv? 1080 p sucks - period. All you talk about is your plasma tv dude. Nobody gives a shit. I have 5 tvs in my house -not a big deal. PC can be plugged in to any hdmi/dvi/vga tv or monitor. PC monitors have the best IQ. 2560x1440 vs 1920x1080. PC is best, end of story. Nobody is jealous of you.
[QUOTE="consoletroll"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="123Sippi"] nope any game pc isnt looking impressive with graphics other than games that aim for photorealism He was asking me dude. I'll answer: Compared to PC games on my 1440p LCD How much time to you spend in front of the tv? 1080 p sucks - period. All you talk about is your plasma tv dude. Nobody gives a shit. I have 5 tvs in my house -not a big deal. PC can be plugged in to any hdmi/dvi/vga tv or monitor. PC monitors have the best IQ. 2560x1440 vs 1920x1080. PC is best, end of story. Nobody is jealous of you. You must have 5 garbage TV's if you think 1440p monitor looks better than a 1080p plasma. I have a 1440p monitor and a 1080p Plasma and the Plasma blows away the monitor. If you owned a quality TV you'd understand
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