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#1 biggotorium
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http://www.joystiq.com/2011/06/22/valve-interested-in-wii-u-it-fits-better-into-our-scalability/ "Wii U seems to be a lot more powerful than the previous generation. It sort of fits better into the scalability in terms of graphics performance and CPU performance, so I think it'll be a lot easier for us to fit it into our scalability model. We've always loved Nintendo. Now it's a lot easier to look at Wii U and have it fit within that framework." -Gabe Newell, Valve
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#2 LegatoSkyheart
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Half-Life 3 = WiiU Launch Title. :P

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#3 painguy1
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Gabe better be right or ima rage & not buy

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#4 Bigboi500
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Half-Life 3 = WiiU Launch Title. :P

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Gawd wouldn't that be sweet? :D

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#5 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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Ep 3 on Wii U and PC only? :D
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#6 osan0
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previous gen as in wii or previous gen as in PS3 and co (talking horsepower here only...of course the wii in SW is a current gen console)? one would think devs would be able to make their mind up on this. seems not...which is od for something that is supposed to have a fixed set of hardware :p. seriously though ID i think it was hinted that its no big jump. the darksiders 2 devs (who have a game working on the wiiu) have made no indication either way. then we have some devs like valve saying its a big jump. wiiu upgradeable confirmed? you heard it here first folks...and no it wont be. seriouly though he could be more talking just having more modern hardware in terms of features (more advanced shaders, GPGPU abilities and such like) or he could be talking about a big jump in horsepower. or both. or neither...maybe he just wanted a headline :P.
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#7 Xplode_games
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I wonder if he meant it is a lot more powerful than the previous generation as in PS2, GC and XBox? No one refers to 360 and PS3 as previous gen. It's the current gen.

Can anyone shed some light on this?

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#8 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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I wonder if he meant it is a lot more powerful than the previous generation as in PS2, GC and XBox? No one refers to 360 and PS3 as previous gen. It's the current gen.

Can anyone shed some light on this?

Xplode_games
Considering Wii U is the generation after the wii, PS3, and 360; it would make sense to call them previous gen in relation to the Wii U.
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#9 ChubbyGuy40
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Ep 3 on Wii U and PC only? :Dferret-gamer

That would be so awesome.

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#10 SaltyMeatballs
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Hopefully by previous gen he means 360/PS3 and not the Wii. Good to hear.
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#11 savebattery
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I wonder if he meant it is a lot more powerful than the previous generation as in PS2, GC and XBox? No one refers to 360 and PS3 as previous gen. It's the current gen.Can anyone shed some light on this?Xplode_games
Even the Wii was more powerful than Xbox, Gamecube, and PS2. Mentioning that WiiU is more powerful than those systems makes about as much sense as mentioning that WiiU is more powerful than SEGA Saturn or Turbografx-16.
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#12 PatchMaster
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]Ep 3 on Wii U and PC only? :DChubbyGuy40

That would be so awesome.

If Ep3/HL3, by chance, releases in 2013 then this is likely. There would probably be ports to Sony and MS at a later date though.

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#13 klusps
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Hope it is HL3 or HL2:ep3.:D

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#14 dommeus
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Half-Life 3 = WiiU Launch Title. :P

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If it was somehow exclusive, I would be forced to buy a Wii U.
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I said to my friends as soon as I heard Nintendo was doing a current gen performance console, all the 3rd party developers will be rushing to add another platform to the dump list. Now you will be seeing PC/360/PS3/WiiU in most cross platform titles.

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#16 dxmcat
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I think PC gamers would start shelling Valve if they released it as a Wii U exclusive, or even a timed exclusive (HL that is)

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I said to my friends as soon as I heard Nintendo was doing a current gen performance console, all the 3rd party developers will be rushing to add another platform to the dump list. Now you will be seeing PC/360/PS3/WiiU in most cross platform titles.

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thats the idea. the vita could very well be added to that list also (it supports UE3 as far as i know) and if apple and co decide to catch up to vita in late 2012 then they could also be added. from a business standpoint 3rd parties are probably praying that MS and sony stay put for another few years. thats a big pool.
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#18 Sgt_Crow
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Wow this is pretty huge... Gabe is a BIG name in the industry and I don't think I have to explain anyone here what a great company Valve is.
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#19 osan0
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I think PC gamers would start shelling Valve if they released it as a Wii U exclusive, or even a timed exclusive (HL that is)

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it wont happen. if valve were just one small dev then ti would be a big possibility. but valve have steam and making HL3 exclusive to the wiiu does steam no favours. we may see a deal struck similar to the one valve and sony made though. get more ninty fans using steam...good stuff for valve.
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#20 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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I think PC gamers would start shelling Valve if they released it as a Wii U exclusive, or even a timed exclusive (HL that is)

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Well they aren't even talking about exclusives, just that the Wii U fits better into their scalability model. And because of Steam and the importance of the PC platform to Valve, I highly doubt they would make any sort of console exclusive.
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#21 AmayaPapaya
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Interesting to hear that Valve is on board. I want me some Portal 1/2/3 Wii mote style, and I guess some Ep3/HL3. Mostly Portal though...Don't care for L4D :P

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#22 Hexagon_777
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I said to my friends as soon as I heard Nintendo was doing a current gen performance console, all the 3rd party developers will be rushing to add another platform to the dump list. Now you will be seeing PC/360/PS3/WiiU in most cross platform titles.AnnoyedDragon
Any chance of seeing some older third party titles being made for the Wii U? The PlayStation 3 did get some titles a year or two after they released on other systems. Same goes for the PC I believe.

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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]I said to my friends as soon as I heard Nintendo was doing a current gen performance console, all the 3rd party developers will be rushing to add another platform to the dump list. Now you will be seeing PC/360/PS3/WiiU in most cross platform titles.Hexagon_777

Any chance of seeing some older third party titles being made for the Wii U? The PlayStation 3 did get some titles a year or two after they released on other systems. Same goes for the PC I believe.

I wouldn't be surprised. When Xbox 360 first came out, a lot of its first titles were ports of year old PC games. WiiU may do the same with current gen titles, relying on them while their exclusive projects are in the works.

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#24 Hexagon_777
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Interesting to hear that Valve is on board. I want me some Portal 1/2/3 Wii mote style, and I guess some Ep3/HL3. Mostly Portal though...Don't care for L4D :PAmayaPapaya
I definitely wouldn't mind if Valve released all of their recent games on the Wii U. Portal, Half-Life, Left 4 Dead, and so on.

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#25 AmazonTreeBoa
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Wow who would have thought the Wii U would be a lot more powerful than the Wii? :shock:

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#26 AmazonTreeBoa
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I wonder if he meant it is a lot more powerful than the previous generation as in PS2, GC and XBox? No one refers to 360 and PS3 as previous gen. It's the current gen.

Can anyone shed some light on this?

Xplode_games

I think he means the Wii U is a lot more powerful than the Wii (previous gen).

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#27 biggotorium
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He could have just it was so much more powerful than the Wii, But instead he said so much more powerful than the previous gen, which means all the consoles in it
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#28 93BlackHawk93
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Crytek and Valve are on board. This is good.

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#30 GojiMaster
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gabe has been giving a lot of his enormous man-love to nintendo lately. i wonder if his company has something to do with the nintendo online which reggie said will be much more 'robust' than psn and xbox live.

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I just remembered Nintendo talked about how the online on Wii U was going to be open and more based upon what third parties do rather than what Nintendo does (something like that). I just remembered the first thing I thought of was Valve and Steam. I would imagine since Nintendo's online is more based upon what the third parties choose to do rather than Nintendo themselves, Valve could do a lot with Steam on Wii U and probably can release all the free content they couldn't on the other consoles. Who's to say that Mods won't be on the list of things the Wii U can do as well?

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I just remembered Nintendo talked about how the online on Wii U was going to be open and more based upon what third parties do rather than what Nintendo does (something like that). I just remembered the first thing I thought of was Valve and Steam. I would imagine since Nintendo's online is more based upon what the third parties choose to do rather than Nintendo themselves, Valve could do a lot with Steam on Wii U and probably can release all the free content they couldn't on the other consoles. Who's to say that Mods won't be on the list of things the Wii U can do as well?

AmayaPapaya

The PlayStation 3 can do mods as well, right? We never really saw that take off, though.

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#33 biggotorium
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Wii U is gonna own :cool:
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#34 butisitbluray
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WoW....new hardware is better then old!!!

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#35 Zero5000X
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It seemed like he meant compared to the Wii.
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#36 Lost-Memory
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I wonder if he meant it is a lot more powerful than the previous generation as in PS2, GC and XBox? No one refers to 360 and PS3 as previous gen. It's the current gen.

Can anyone shed some light on this?

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Yeah, but the Wii U is a next gen console, making the previous gen, WII, PS3, 360. The next generation is slowly coming to current.
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#37 Cheese-Muffins
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Mark Rein commented on this:

Valve likes the WiiU -- the idea of having full Steam support on WiiU excites me quite a bit! Valve rocks!Mark Rein
http://twitter.com/#!/MarkRein/status/83671040521285632

Also in Newell's comments, it sounds like they're referring to all consoles, 360 and PS3 included. It's easier to say Wii than previous generation, so it would lead me to believe he's comparing it to all.

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[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

I just remembered Nintendo talked about how the online on Wii U was going to be open and more based upon what third parties do rather than what Nintendo does (something like that). I just remembered the first thing I thought of was Valve and Steam. I would imagine since Nintendo's online is more based upon what the third parties choose to do rather than Nintendo themselves, Valve could do a lot with Steam on Wii U and probably can release all the free content they couldn't on the other consoles. Who's to say that Mods won't be on the list of things the Wii U can do as well?

Hexagon_777

The PlayStation 3 can do mods as well, right? We never really saw that take off, though.

Yes that is true, Unreal 3 is the only one to do it. If I'm not mistaken however, the reason behind this is that it's hard to put in Mod support in any game because of some contract/agreement stuff with Sony. Don't quote me on it though. I guess (at least from what I heard on these forums) It also deals with DLC, Expansion, etc...

If the Wii U's online is as open as we hope, it probably wouldn't be that hard to get Mod support in a contract sense, and Nintendo isn't a company that supports DLC or Expansions.

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Someone needs to tell Gabe that most 3rd party games don't sell well on Nintendo consoles.

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#40 AmayaPapaya
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Someone needs to tell Gabe that most 3rd party games don't sell well on Nintendo consoles.

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...and? It's a brand new console. It matters little who made it, or the histroy behind the company. As shown with the PS3, a lot can change between generations.

Also, last time I checked, the SNES and NES had tons of third party games which sold well as a whole.

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#41 biggotorium
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[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

Someone needs to tell Gabe that most 3rd party games don't sell well on Nintendo consoles.

AmayaPapaya

...and? It's a brand new console. It matters little who made it, or the histroy behind the company. As shown with the PS3, a lot can change between generations.

Also, last time I checked, the SNES and NES had tons of third party games which sold well as a whole.

Well put, all Nintendo needs to do is market to the hardcore and get those multiplats and we'll have a 360/PS3 killer on our hands
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[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

Someone needs to tell Gabe that most 3rd party games don't sell well on Nintendo consoles.

biggotorium

...and? It's a brand new console. It matters little who made it, or the histroy behind the company. As shown with the PS3, a lot can change between generations.

Also, last time I checked, the SNES and NES had tons of third party games which sold well as a whole.

Well put, all Nintendo needs to do is market to the hardcore and get those multiplats and we'll have a 360/PS3 killer on our hands

Yes, a console that is suppose to be a gen ahead of the ps3/360 is the ps3/360 killer. Way to go Nintendo. You definitely one upped Sony and MS by taking an extra gen to beat a soon to be last gen console. :roll:
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"We've always loved Nintendo." -Gabe Newell, Valve biggotorium

Gabe, Gabe, Gabe....

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#44 EvanTheGamer
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I hope Wii U will have enough HDD space for all those useless TF2 hat updates.

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#45 locopatho
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Hey remember this?

I think anyone getting their hopes up for cross platform Steam stuff or Half Life 3 as a WiiU/PC multiplat is gonna be disappointed :P

I'd say it'll be a case of Nintendo getting included in the PC/360/PS3 lineup at last.

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#46 dercoo
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biggotorium, how many more Wiiu threads are you going to plaster on SW.

This is the Third one I know of within the past few hours.

And they all revolve around praising a rumor, then attacking anyone that disagrees.

And from a level 1 poster too..., my alternate account trolling senses are tingling.

edit: Sorry, i was wrong, this is the 4th one

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#47 InfinityMugen
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biggotorium, how many more Wiiu threads are you going to plaster on SW.

This is the Third one I know of within the past few hours.

And they all revolve around praising a rumor, then attacking anyone that disagrees.

And from a level 1 poster too..., my alternate account trolling senses are tingling.

edit: Sorry, i was wrong, this is the 4th one

dercoo

Much more interesting than "Graphics King" and "Year of the PS3 threads" :P

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#48 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="biggotorium"] "We've always loved Nintendo." -Gabe Newell, Valve Ly_the_Fairy

Gabe, Gabe, Gabe....

They have always loved Nintendo. But like everything else, theres always that one imperfection/flaw that you can't ignore.

For them, that was the Wii. I will not make a joke on why, because I'd further delay Ep.3/HL3 if I did.

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#49 HaloPimp978
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Half-Life 3 = WiiU Launch Title. :P

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If that happen I would buy a Wii U day one.

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#50 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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This has to be wrong. No way in hell has man figured out how to make machines more powerful than cell processor.