Vavle is the greatest developer of shoooters EVER.

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#1 kingfire11
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Almost every shooter this company made is greatness, the Half Life series might be the best series of amazing shooter games ever.

what more impressive is Valve doesn't relay heavily on Graphics, unlike other companies *cough* Epic *cough*. the greatness of their games are because of how clever the game design is, and how great the gameplay is.

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#2 Espada12
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I agree for the most part, hell great games STEM from their shooters. *CS, Natural Selection, Zombie mods*
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#3 RuprechtMonkey
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I agree that they might be the best.

I disagree with your second part,when it cameout Source was on the very cutting edge of graphics, so much so that it still hold up a few years later, and their next engine will also be cutting edge graphically.

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#4 SSJ_Nega
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I've played Half Life 1, Blue Shift and Half Life 2, and I found them all to be pretty mediocre.

I think Valve is overrated, but I recognise that they must be doing something right to get such praise. They're just not for me.

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#5 Silent_Jon
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Either Valve or Epic would be my favorite developers.

But I'll go with Valve even though I absolutely despise Steam.

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#6 mr_mozilla
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HL1 is still their biggest masterpiece and even tho HL2+episodes haven't really evolved enough from that, it's still enough to beat the competition in my eyes.
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#7 kingfire11
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I've played Half Life 1, Blue Shift and Half Life 2, and I found them all to be pretty mediocre.

I think Valve is overrated, but I recognise that they must be doing something right to get such praise. They're just not for me.

SSJ_Nega

Yeah, I understand, it's your personal opinion, btw what are your favorite shooters?

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#8 RuprechtMonkey
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I've played Half Life 1, Blue Shift and Half Life 2, and I found them all to be pretty mediocre.

I think Valve is overrated, but I recognise that they must be doing something right to get such praise. They're just not for me.

SSJ_Nega

Blue Shift was meh, but Half Life 1 shattered the industry when it was released, and HL2 and its episodes was awesome as well.

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#9 SpruceCaboose
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I think Valve is certainly one of the top shooter developers, but I don't believe that they are the greatest, IMO.
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#10 kingfire11
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I think Valve is certainly one of the top shooter developers, but I don't believe that they are the greatest, IMO.SpruceCaboose

Who are the greatest?

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#11 angelkimne
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Yes, I agree.
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#12 SSJ_Nega
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[QUOTE="SSJ_Nega"]

I've played Half Life 1, Blue Shift and Half Life 2, and I found them all to be pretty mediocre.

I think Valve is overrated, but I recognise that they must be doing something right to get such praise. They're just not for me.

kingfire11

Yeah, I understand, it's your personal opinion, btw what are your favorite shooters?

My favourite shooter of all time would have to be Perfect Dark for the N64. Even to this day i've never played an FPS that offers as much as this one did.

Timesplitters 2 is also incredible, as is Halo: CE, S.T.A.L.K.E.R, F.E.A.R and COD4.

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#13 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]I think Valve is certainly one of the top shooter developers, but I don't believe that they are the greatest, IMO.kingfire11

Who are the greatest?

I personally like Infinity Ward and Bungie more, especially in terms of multiplayer shooters.

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#14 ALTAIR360
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Bungie all the wayy!!!

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#15 aliblabla2007
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I personally prefer Monolith, Looking Glass (R.I.P) and GSC Gameworld for SP FPS games, but w/e.
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#16 ONLYDOD
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To be honest I think they are vastly overated, they make great games sure, but sometimes I feel they are given to much praise.
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#17 -hells-
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Personally I like infinity ward more
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#18 Nintendo_Ownes7
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Valve is great But my personal favorite is Raven Software. id is also up there because Raven Software made alot of id games like Quake 4 and the new Wolfenstein which looks great IMO.
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#19 Bazfrag
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Actually its Turtle Rock :P but they are part of Valve now.
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#20 shadow_hosi
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Valve am win
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#21 kittykatz5k
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I've played Half Life 1, Blue Shift and Half Life 2, and I found them all to be pretty mediocre.

I think Valve is overrated, but I recognise that they must be doing something right to get such praise. They're just not for me.

SSJ_Nega

Blue shift was gearbox, and the worst of the half life expansions (including decay)

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Valve is the greatest because not only do they make awesome games, they support them with free updates like crazy. What other company supports their games as much as valve?
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#23 tmntPunchout
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I'm going to say yes because they made CS, the only FPS I really always go back to and can hooked again.
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#24 shadow_hosi
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Valve is the greatest because not only do they make awesome games, they support them with free updates like crazy. What other company supports their games as much as valve? channtheman1

Blizzard

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#25 Dante2710
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Bungie is my favorite developer on the fps department, they have a good sense of humor to top it all

valve is great also, i loved the orange box, and TF2 is one of the most fun MP this gen :)

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#26 shadow_hosi
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Bungie is my favorite developer on the fps department, they have a good sense of humor to top it all

valve is great also, i loved the orange box, and TF2 is one of the most fun MP this gen :)

Dante2710

bungie is good, but their levels are full of same-same environments and alot of backtracking to get you lost, they need better level design

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#27 sam280992
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Half-Life 2 is the most overrated game ever.
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#28 angelkimne
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Half-Life 2 is the most overrated game ever.sam280992
...prove it? :P
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#29 sam280992
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[QUOTE="sam280992"]Half-Life 2 is the most overrated game ever.angelkimne
...prove it? :P

IMO, Then. :)

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#30 shadow_hosi
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Half-Life 2 is the most overrated game ever.sam280992

screenshot or it never happend

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#31 Dante2710
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"]

Bungie is my favorite developer on the fps department, they have a good sense of humor to top it all

valve is great also, i loved the orange box, and TF2 is one of the most fun MP this gen :)

shadow_hosi

bungie is good, but their levels are full of same-same environments and alot of backtracking to get you lost, they need better level design

some of the levels are very enjoyable actually, the only who i dislike very much is cortana, the only thing bungie is lacking is the playlist and the maps from halo 2, while halo 3 does have some fun mp maps, i think they could have done a better job, but with the new maps coming out every now and then, it def is improving.....too bad they dont have as many fun playlists as halo 2 :(
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#32 hoola
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Valve is the best for me. That is the only company that can actually make me care about the characters...and there aren't even any cutscenes. id is very close behind though.
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#33 Dante2710
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Valve is the best for me. That is the only company that can actually make me care about the characters...and there aren't even any cutscenes. id is very close behind though.hoola
off topic, but are there any recent news regarding project offset? :? i havent check in a while
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#34 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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No bungie is with the halo and Marathon series.
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#35 sam280992
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[QUOTE="sam280992"]Half-Life 2 is the most overrated game ever.shadow_hosi

screenshot or it never happend

Owned?

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#36 web966
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I agree, i love every game i have played of the theirs.
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#37 web966
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No bungie is with the halo and Marathon series.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

I love halo but the single player experience is vastly superiorin the Half Life games.

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#38 shadow_hosi
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[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]

[QUOTE="sam280992"]Half-Life 2 is the most overrated game ever.sam280992

screenshot or it never happend

*pic*

Owned?

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paint ftw

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#39 deactivated-59da85d821feb
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I don't have a favourite. I like Valve, Bungie, Epic, Infinity Ward and Rare (N64 days)
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#40 naval
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Yes, Valve = Best Devloper, HL 1 = Best FPS
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#41 DaBrainz
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Things I like about valve:

The source engine was a marvel in 2004, it was able to run a fantastic looking game (HL2) with minimum requirements.

Instead of traditional cutscenes, they let you keep control of your character as the NPCs acted out the story.

Things I don't like about valve.

HL2 was so boring it took me over a year to complete because I couldn't play for than an hour without losing interest. I guess I like games with more puzzle solving and exporation.

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#42 WasntAvailable
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Half Life 2 is easily the best shooter ever made. No way is the original Half Life superior to the second. Sure it was more revolutionary, but not better. Half Life 2 does something most FPS games can't, it stays entertaining and engaging right through to the end, while also offering many twists to the gameplay as the game goes on. The story is entertaining, and the way it is presented through the eyes of Gordan Freeman is still the best use of that style to date. The game is also fairly long, and for it's time, did introduce use some really ground breaking technology. The most overated game of all time is Halo 3 or perhaps CoD4 (Come on! It was 5 hours long!), no way is it Half Life 2.

Valve is easily one of the influential developers of all time. They completely changed the way FPS shooters are seen today when they released the original Half Life, and then went on to influence the genre further with the release of the second. Companies like Infinity Ward have done very little in comparison, infact they have made 3 war games that wern't exactly immensly original. MoH:AA had already been out before CoD hit the shelves, and I still consider that superior. Also we had seen modern combat shooters long before CoD 4, they just imported the same gameplay they used in their WW2 games, and made them just a bit more popular. Then you have Bungie that made the Halo series. They brought out Halo, and that changed the way console FPS games were designed because of it's smart control. Then they released two sequels that didn't really have much impact at all, and having played the third one, I was not very impressed.

Of course Half Life wasn't the first FPS ever made, and for that reason I would probably have to give the award of "greatest developer os shooters EVER" to whoever created the genre, and I think it was id software that did that properly.

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#43 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]No bungie is with the halo and Marathon series.web966

I love halo but the single player experience is vastly superiorin the Half Life games.

Nah halo's SP is a bit more epic then Half life's altho episode 2's was VERY VERY epic(except for the cave part), But halo 3's was epic the entire game
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#44 mo0ksi
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I don't think so.

I can give Valve credit for the main Half Life games and Steam only. They really weren't responsible for how great Opposing Force was, nor were they responsible for Day of Defeat, Counter Strike, or Team Fortress.

They just hired the talent for those games and put them in the company seperately. You can give them some credit but not nearly a lot. But they have a great online service.

Best FPS developer is Monolith. They proved themselves time and time again dishing out a lot of excellent titles. They had only disappointed me with Condemmed.

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#45 Zero5000X
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I like Bungie, Infinity Ward, and Rare more for shooters. I always found counter-strike and half-life to be kinda boring and definately overrated.
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#46 Bentham
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I think Valve is the greatest, as well. The atmosphere in the Half Life games is unprecedented.
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#47 Donkey_Puncher
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Well considering that Half-life is the best FPS ever made...then I would say yes. HL2 would also be a close second. Although they haven't made an tire slew of games like many other devs in the same time period, everything they've put out was stellar.
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#48 mingo123
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HL2 is horrible, but i give them credit for making one of the best MP game ever
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#49 TenP
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They're fantastic, yes!

But calling them the greatest is a little stretch when you have Epic and Id fighting for the same title...

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#50 Donkey_Puncher
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My favourite shooter of all time would have to be Perfect Dark for the N64. Even to this day i've never played an FPS that offers as much as this one did.

Timesplitters 2 is also incredible, as is Halo: CE, S.T.A.L.K.E.R, F.E.A.R and COD4.

SSJ_Nega

Opinions are opinions, but Perfect dark and Time splitters? I can't even comprehend how someone can say those two games are top of the line shooters.