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#101 Karpetburnz
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[QUOTE="GamingGod999"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]I think they were supposed to be seperate games. Do you have a link that they are just tech demos?

CanYouDiglt

Hereyago.

Well I guess they were maybe just tech demos. PS4 is really going to need more exclusive launch titles then.

PS4 has Knack, Killzone: Shadow Fall, Infamous: Second Son and Drive Club. So thats 4 games already announced and more will come at E3.

Sony confirmed that every first party studio is currently developing games for PS4.

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#102 deactivated-59d151f079814
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I get a kick out of how cynical everyone has gotten. From looking at just a few posts in this thread I've learned that Crytech sucks and everything they make sucks, Killzone sucks, Fable sucks, hell... EVERYTHING SUCKS! Why do any of us bother playing games anyway?

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.. Because Moly's past franchises were far superior.. Populous and Dungeon Keeper are his best works.. Dungeon Keeper 1 is in Gamespots Hall of Fame, as one of the best games of all time.. The fable series has turned into a series that is synomous with dumbing down.. And what basically is wrong with the industry.

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#103 FoxbatAlpha
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Why all the hate on Kinect? Because it is a success, especially when compaired to the MOVE that bombed so bad it has barely a mention for the next gen. This line up is just a leak and will have more in it as the year goes on. Dont hate on this line up when the PS4 has "Knack". They talked that game up like we would be excited for it. no. Your sig is dumb.
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#104 wazzap76
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So Ryse is that hack and slash game they showed two E3's ages ago but never saw anything more of till now?  Looked cool but I don't want to stand up and flail around for hours **** that.

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#105 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Why all the hate on Kinect? Because it is a success, especially when compaired to the MOVE that bombed so bad it has barely a mention for the next gen. This line up is just a leak and will have more in it as the year goes on. Dont hate on this line up when the PS4 has "Knack". They talked that game up like we would be excited for it. no. Your sig is dumb.FoxbatAlpha

  Yeah it is pretty hilarious that fanboys are hostile towards MS as a Sony fanboys.. While Sony's PS4 conference had them demo a kinect like device themselves.. 

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#106 super600  Moderator
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Not a bad rumored launch title list if the kinect games are good and the zombie game is  good.

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#107 timbers_WSU
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Not bad. The next Forza will be amazing, that's for sure.

Just hope the 'zombie game' is not Left 4 Dead 3. I wan't that to be multiplat.

PAL360
Actually there was an arcade game that was never released and it supposed to of had a tie in with a retail game. loosingends or whatever used to hype it all the time and it never came out. Pretty sure that is probably the one they are talking about.
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#108 -RocBoys9489-
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[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"]

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

 

Try not to hate too much on a series you have evidently never played.

_Matt_

:lol: I've beaten both KZ2 and KZ3 bud, they're both 4-5 hours. Every enemy is the same, just with a different gun, with the occasional fat guy or flying terminator guy.

If you consider the mech sequence in the third game good, or manning stationary turrets amazing, then you probably haven't played FPS for 15 years like I have. 

 

While I agree the vehicle sections were rubbish they were very few in number anyway. Killzone has some of the best AI in shooters, so I'm not sure why you would call GG ****, and saying that the campaigns are 4 hours is a fair bit of an exaggeration, unless you have beaten it once before already and put it on the easiest diffiulty.

 

I played on normal; I'd say I died a a fair amount of times too in my play-throughs. To me the AI was nothing special and games like Gears, Resistance, Half-Life, and Halo have much better and more fun enemies. The Helghast were boring to fight; reminded me of that game Spec Ops the Line and how it was making fun of shooters.
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#109 RR360DD
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I'd much rather a PGR than a Forza (unless its Horizon 2).
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#110 -RocBoys9489-
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[QUOTE="gpuking"][QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"] :lol: I've beaten both KZ2 and KZ3 bud, they're both 4-5 hours. Every enemy is the same, just with a different gun, with the occasional fat guy or flying terminator guy.

If you consider the mech sequence in the third game good, or manning stationary turrets amazing, then you probably haven't played FPS for 15 years like I have. 

StrongDeadlift

Better than the same old terrorists in BF, COD, or the mundane design of Cephs in crysis. GG's art style is simply way more intriguing to me.

Except nobody buys Battlefield or CoD for the campaigns.  The entire allure of those games is the multiplayer, and the community that keeps them alive.  (reguardless of what System Wars believes).  Killzone is designed the same way (i.e. its campaign is roughly the same quality as that of Battlefield, and the main allure being multiplayer). The only problem with that is.....the game will not be as supported by its community.

Killzone Shadow Fall is going to be a barren and forgotten about title after launch, especially launching alongside Battlefield 4, the next Call of Duty, and whatever corresponding Halo game.  Cows will hype it, and it may very well be at best a "decent" game, but nonetheless, a game that will simply come and go.  Nothing more.


Agreed, I don't like CoD, but BF3 has the best multiplayer for a shooter on PC IMO. It's why I don't touch Killzone or CoD multiplayer.
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#111 Tessellation
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I'd much rather a PGR than a Forza (unless its Horizon 2).RR360DD
there is also a PGR game under development.
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#113 timbers_WSU
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Forza and PGR.......That poor Drive Club game does not have a chance in Hell......

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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]I'd much rather a PGR than a Forza (unless its Horizon 2).Tessellation
there is also a PGR game under development.

Not confirmed. There have been rumors about a new PGR for years but they have always ended up false.

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#115 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]I'd much rather a PGR than a Forza (unless its Horizon 2).Tessellation
there is also a PGR game under development.

Sweet, now all we need is a Rare game with more depth than Kinect sports and the launch lineup is shaping up pretty well.
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#116 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]I'd much rather a PGR than a Forza (unless its Horizon 2).NathanDrakeSwag

there is also a PGR game under development.

Not confirmed. There have been rumors about a new PGR for years but they have always ended up false.

http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/06/xbox-720-watch-project-gotham-5-art-unearthed-launching-2013-report/
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#117 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]I'd much rather a PGR than a Forza (unless its Horizon 2).RR360DD
there is also a PGR game under development.

Sweet, now all we need is a Rare game with more depth than Kinect sports and the launch lineup is shaping up pretty well.

if only rare could bring back conker .
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#118 Bread_or_Decide
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Focusing on KINECT is a mistake of WIIU proportions.
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#119 kuraimen
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That is a pathetic lineup if true. Where are the lems who said PGR was coming back?

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Lems love pathetic lineups. That's why they have a360 after all
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#120 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Karpetburnz"]

PS4 has Knack

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Lol Knack. I always get a chuckle seeing Cows hype this game.  If this game was an exclusive for the next Xbox, Cows would be trolling it so hard.  Just imagine the Kinect shovelware jokes, and gifs, etc.....:D

Instead, there is a massive thread of cows fapping to the game, some even defending it vigorougsly on account of Mark Cerny's resume, even though none of them knew the man existed until february 20th :|

Yeah but at least KNACK isn't motion based. Its a real game.
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#121 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="Tessellation"] there is also a PGR game under development.

Sweet, now all we need is a Rare game with more depth than Kinect sports and the launch lineup is shaping up pretty well.

if only rare could bring back conker .

Lol dumb lems still have hopes. Slow fellows aren't they?
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#122 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="Bruce_Benzing"]

You're right, where's the pseudo generic FPS with pretty graphics? Oh that's right it's a PS4 launch title.......

Bruce_Benzing

yup, +1 for cows. Lems lose again.

I guess you can't grasp the meaning of generic

"Generic" >> Kinect.
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#123 Douevenlift_bro
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="Bruce_Benzing"]

You're right, where's the pseudo generic FPS with pretty graphics? Oh that's right it's a PS4 launch title.......

Bruce_Benzing

:lol: Touche mah man, KZ4 had'em squealing like lil girls.

OT, I think their confusing Forza with PGR5 and teh Rare games being kept supah secret for now. :o :P

Don't worry whatever MS announces, Cows will try to downplay as much as possible.

Are these guys really high fiving eachother over Forza and Kinect? :shock:

 

 

 

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#124 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

That is a pathetic lineup if true. Where are the lems who said PGR was coming back?

kuraimen
Lems love pathetic lineups. That's why they have a360 after all

360s lineup destroyed the PS3s LOLOLOL You should leave SW for today, you're getting owned left, right and centre Kuri
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#125 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Karpetburnz"]

PS4 has Knack

StrongDeadlift

Lol Knack. I always get a chuckle seeing Cows hype this game.  If this game was an exclusive for the next Xbox, Cows would be trolling it so hard.  Just imagine the Kinect shovelware jokes, and gifs, etc.....:D

Instead, there is a massive thread of cows fapping to the game, some even defending it vigorougsly on account of Mark Cerny's resume, even though none of them knew the man existed until february 20th :|

Knack looks good and it's not a motion (Kinect/Move) game. What's not to like?
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#126 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="Bruce_Benzing"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]:lol: Touche mah man, KZ4 had'em squealing like lil girls.

OT, I think their confusing Forza with PGR5 and teh Rare games being kept supah secret for now. :o :P

Douevenlift_bro

Don't worry whatever MS announces, Cows will try to downplay as much as possible.

Are these guys really high fiving eachother over Forza and Kinect? :shock:

 

 

 

They have been brainwashed by low standards.
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#127 Douevenlift_bro
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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

[QUOTE="Karpetburnz"]

PS4 has Knack

Chutebox

Lol Knack. I always get a chuckle seeing Cows hype this game.  If this game was an exclusive for the next Xbox, Cows would be trolling it so hard.  Just imagine the Kinect shovelware jokes, and gifs, etc.....:D

Instead, there is a massive thread of cows fapping to the game, some even defending it vigorougsly on account of Mark Cerny's resume, even though none of them knew the man existed until february 20th :|

Knack looks good and it's not a motion (Kinect/Move) game. What's not to like?

He just doesn't like the name "Knack" oh and its PS4 game. You know how these cimple rodents minds work

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#128 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

That is a pathetic lineup if true. Where are the lems who said PGR was coming back?

RR360DD
Lems love pathetic lineups. That's why they have a360 after all

360s lineup destroyed the PS3s LOLOLOL You should leave SW for today, you're getting owned left, right and centre Kuri

Lol three franchises rehashed over 8 years destroy nothing. Thing is lems are too dumb to realize that M$ was selling the the same games year after year.
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#129 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]Sweet, now all we need is a Rare game with more depth than Kinect sports and the launch lineup is shaping up pretty well.kuraimen
if only rare could bring back conker .

Lol dumb lems still have hopes. Slow fellows aren't they?

like many said,leave for few days you've been getting stomped left and right..your butthurt is showing. :cool:
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#130 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Tessellation"] if only rare could bring back conker .

Lol dumb lems still have hopes. Slow fellows aren't they?

like many said,leave for few days you've been getting stomped left and right..your butthurt is showing. :cool:

Lol lems and their delusional fantasies.
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#131 SuddenlySudden
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WHat?? No HaloGearsFOrza? Lemmings be cried.
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#132 PAL360
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Not bad. The next Forza will be amazing, that's for sure.

Just hope the 'zombie game' is not Left 4 Dead 3. I wan't that to be multiplat.

timbers_WSU

Actually there was an arcade game that was never released and it supposed to of had a tie in with a retail game. loosingends or whatever used to hype it all the time and it never came out. Pretty sure that is probably the one they are talking about.

I think you mean State of Decay, but i believe that's a still 360 game.

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#133 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Lems love pathetic lineups. That's why they have a360 after allkuraimen
360s lineup destroyed the PS3s LOLOLOL You should leave SW for today, you're getting owned left, right and centre Kuri

Lol three franchises rehashed over 8 years destroy nothing. Thing is lems are too dumb to realize that M$ was selling the the same games year after year.

I was talking launch lineup

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#134 kuraimen
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WHat?? No HaloGearsFOrza? Lemmings be cried. SuddenlySudden
Now Ryse makes up for Halol and Gears so they'll have RyseForza for the entire next gen.
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#135 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Lol dumb lems still have hopes. Slow fellows aren't they?

like many said,leave for few days you've been getting stomped left and right..your butthurt is showing. :cool:

Lol lems and their delusional fantasies.

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#136 timbers_WSU
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There is nothing Microsoft can do to get respect. These threads are pointless.

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#137 -Patrick_92-
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Forza is awesome, we know that will be good.  I couldn't care less about those other games though.  The PS4's line-up sounds so much better to me, I'll be getting Killzone: Shadow Fall, inFamous: Second Son, and DriveClub.  Knack is a maybe for me.

Can't wait for E3 to hear more about new PS4 and Nextbox games, should be very exciting.

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#138 hexashadow13
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[QUOTE="Karpetburnz"]

PS4 has Knack

StrongDeadlift

Lol Knack. I always get a chuckle seeing Cows hype this game.  If this game was an exclusive for the next Xbox, Cows would be trolling it so hard.  Just imagine the Kinect shovelware jokes, and gifs, etc.....:D

Instead, there is a massive thread of cows fapping to the game, some even defending it vigorougsly on account of Mark Cerny's resume, even though none of them knew the man existed until february 20th :|

Waaaaaaay back Cerny was worshipped Miyamoto level. He completely dropped off the map last gen though for some reason that I still don't get.
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#139 trollhunter2
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[quote=""]We're told Ryse is designed to be Microsoft's new Gears of War / Halo mega launch title. It's set in the roman empire period and uses deep Kinect integration to allow a player to slash and kick at enemies. We understand that Ryse will take advantage of the new body tracking improvements in the next Kinect sensor. Ryse is part of four major launch titles for the next-generation Xbox. Sources tell us that a new Forza title with "super life-like" graphics will also be made available at launch, alongside a zombie game and a family game set on an island with Pixar movie-style graphics. We're told that the family game will utilize Kinect to scan a body and generate a virtual character in the game.campzor

 

We understand that these four titles are a small selection of the launch titles for the next-generation Xbox. Third-party support is said to be strong in the first-person-shooter genre. Microsoft is also working on some improvements to Xbox Live, including a switch to currency over the Microsoft Points system. Microsoft is expected to hold a special Xbox event in May, ahead of a full unveiling at E3 in June.

 

The funny thing is Ryse being designed to be the 'gears' or 'halo' mega launch title.

Thats hilarious, especially with when it uses 'deep kinect integration' and its developed by crytek

Silly MS:x, great way to spoil excitement by mentioning a Kinect integration. This game could have been great, when it uses a standard controller:evil:

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[QUOTE="campzor"]

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gaf

[quote=""]We're told Ryse is designed to be Microsoft's new Gears of War / Halo mega launch title. It's set in the roman empire period and uses deep Kinect integration to allow a player to slash and kick at enemies. We understand that Ryse will take advantage of the new body tracking improvements in the next Kinect sensor. Ryse is part of four major launch titles for the next-generation Xbox. Sources tell us that a new Forza title with "super life-like" graphics will also be made available at launch, alongside a zombie game and a family game set on an island with Pixar movie-style graphics. We're told that the family game will utilize Kinect to scan a body and generate a virtual character in the game.trollhunter2

 

We understand that these four titles are a small selection of the launch titles for the next-generation Xbox. Third-party support is said to be strong in the first-person-shooter genre. Microsoft is also working on some improvements to Xbox Live, including a switch to currency over the Microsoft Points system. Microsoft is expected to hold a special Xbox event in May, ahead of a full unveiling at E3 in June.

 

The funny thing is Ryse being designed to be the 'gears' or 'halo' mega launch title.

Thats hilarious, especially with when it uses 'deep kinect integration' and its developed by crytek

Silly MS:x, great way to spoil excitement by mentioning a Kinect integration. This game could have been great, when it uses a standard controller:evil:

Not really, Kinect is part of the next xbox, ships with every unit... i'd expect many games that are not multiplat to use it, and if it suppsoedly works as good as rumours have said (way more accurate and detailed thatn kinect 1.0) then it may be a useful gaming aperatus afterall.
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#141 trollhunter2
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[QUOTE="Karpetburnz"]

PS4 has Knack

StrongDeadlift

Lol Knack. I always get a chuckle seeing Cows hype this game.  If this game was an exclusive for the next Xbox, Cows would be trolling it so hard.  Just imagine the Kinect shovelware jokes, and gifs, etc.....:D

Instead, there is a massive thread of cows fapping to the game, some even defending it vigorougsly on account of Mark Cerny's resume, even though none of them knew the man existed until february 20th :|

just watch Knack getting better critical reception than Ryse. Kinect required games arent known to Score high critically ya know;)

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[QUOTE="gpuking"] If Crytek casualize a PS4 game like they did with Ryse then no one would give a f*ck about that game either. Any self respecting core gamer would stay the hell away from Kinect.-RocBoys9489-

  I wouldn't call you a core gamer if you orgasmed over Killzone 4.. The same generic military shooter we have been dealing with going on 7 years with a new coat of paint.. 

It's never been a good series and never will, GG is a **** developer with great artists. They need to make something else. Not to mention the 4 hour campaigns with repetitive enemy variety and awful vehicle sequences.

Oh now you are just being butthurt of epic proportions ! 4 hour campaigns :lol: now i'm pretty sure you are just being dumb !

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#143 timbers_WSU
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[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

  I wouldn't call you a core gamer if you orgasmed over Killzone 4.. The same generic military shooter we have been dealing with going on 7 years with a new coat of paint.. 

DISSESHOWEDO

It's never been a good series and never will, GG is a **** developer with great artists. They need to make something else. Not to mention the 4 hour campaigns with repetitive enemy variety and awful vehicle sequences.

Oh now you are just being butthurt of epic proportions ! 4 hour campaigns :lol: now i'm pretty sure you are just being dumb !

I beat 3 in 5 hours. Could not play through the second one caused single player sucked.
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#144 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="DISSESHOWEDO"]

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"] It's never been a good series and never will, GG is a **** developer with great artists. They need to make something else. Not to mention the 4 hour campaigns with repetitive enemy variety and awful vehicle sequences.timbers_WSU

Oh now you are just being butthurt of epic proportions ! 4 hour campaigns :lol: now i'm pretty sure you are just being dumb !

I beat 3 in 5 hours. Could not play through the second one caused single player sucked.

It took me 3 years to bring myself to finish the second ones campaign. Complete borefest LOL

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#145 killzowned24
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Is this the good news lemmings were waiting for? hahaha
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#146 -RocBoys9489-
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[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

  I wouldn't call you a core gamer if you orgasmed over Killzone 4.. The same generic military shooter we have been dealing with going on 7 years with a new coat of paint.. 

DISSESHOWEDO

It's never been a good series and never will, GG is a **** developer with great artists. They need to make something else. Not to mention the 4 hour campaigns with repetitive enemy variety and awful vehicle sequences.

Oh now you are just being butthurt of epic proportions ! 4 hour campaigns :lol: now i'm pretty sure you are just being dumb !

Butthurt?! Yea, butthurt that I spend $30 and then $60 on 2 and 3 respectively for a combined 10 hours of gameplay, if that. Multiplayer wasn't worth the time either.
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#147 -RocBoys9489-
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[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"][QUOTE="DISSESHOWEDO"]

Oh now you are just being butthurt of epic proportions ! 4 hour campaigns :lol: now i'm pretty sure you are just being dumb !

RR360DD

I beat 3 in 5 hours. Could not play through the second one caused single player sucked.

It took me 3 years to bring myself to finish the second ones campaign. Complete borefest LOL

Sadly, I spent probably 1/5 of my playing time on the final boss too lol
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#148 SuddenlySudden
Member since 2013 • 618 Posts
Bahahaha lems
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#149 I_can_haz
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What a crappy list of launch titles. The only decent sounding title there is Forza.

 

 

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#150 pc-ps360
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damn u ms. wy the **** are they removing the microsoft point system. i dont want to freaking put my visa card number in the console. stupid ms. i dont understand why do they care. if they remove ms point there is no way in hell im getting the 720. i love arcade games but i dont like putting my credit card number online no matter how secure it is.

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You will still be able to get prepaid XBL cards. Talk about over-reacting....LOL

im not over reacting. my 360 and ps3 library consists of 80 perecnt plus of downlaodable games. i love digital games an arcade games. but putting ur visa card number is online is crap. my cousin made the mistake of putting his visa card number on the 360 to buy gold and m points. when his gold expired they renewed it automatically and made him pay for it. so he called to cancle and they told him its ok but when his gold expired again they renewed it AGAIN and made him pay. it took him 8 MONTHS to get a refund for the 2nd time. wtf is this s h i t. also credit card numbers are private i dont think they should be used online for any reason, any1 can steal u rinformation and screw u.