Vita first week sales (UK): 1/4 of PSP debut, 1/2 of 3DS debut (~60k)

What's the price of the Vita in the UK? This is one reason I don't miss living there, as the retail prices were just downright ridiculous.

lundy86_4

Nintendo handhelds did just fine in the past with no competition ya know. Thinking Nintendo somehow needs Sony to stay afloat in the handheld market in order to be succesful is ridiculous.

Bigboi500

As I said. Nintendo might be able to keep a small niche audience alive for the handhelds but then comes the question if they shouldn't team up with some other company.

It doesn't really matter as the dedicated handheld is screwed anyway in 10 years or so.

either way, sony moved 1.2 million vita units, all up against the 3ds "which is cheaper" and with smart phones on the market AND in a crazy economy we're in. You guys can spin that as bad all you want though.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

What's the price of the Vita in the UK? This is one reason I don't miss living there, as the retail prices were just downright ridiculous.

SaltyMeatballs

People in the US complaining about the price don't know how lucky they are. The pricing where I live is equivalent to US$380 for the WiFi. :|

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Nintendo handhelds did just fine in the past with no competition ya know. Thinking Nintendo somehow needs Sony to stay afloat in the handheld market in order to be succesful is ridiculous.

JLF1MarkII

As I said. Nintendo might be able to keep a small niche audience alive for the handhelds but then comes the question if they shouldn't team up with some other company.

It doesn't really matter as the dedicated handheld is screwed anyway in 10 years or so.

The smaller devs are already moving on, you don't need those to keep Nintendo handhelds afloat.

Yes the Mario Tennis and 100k niche RPGs are important, but the key titles are big hitters. Mainline RE/MGS. MH. Pokemon. Mario. Those titles are the reason why consoles sell 10, 20, 30 millions. Low tier games from the small J devs are a small factor in the big picture, they help by releasing something during droughts, but their business doesn't impact handheld sales at all.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Nintendo handhelds did just fine in the past with no competition ya know. Thinking Nintendo somehow needs Sony to stay afloat in the handheld market in order to be succesful is ridiculous.

JLF1MarkII

As I said. Nintendo might be able to keep a small niche audience alive for the handhelds but then comes the question if they shouldn't team up with some other company.

It doesn't really matter as the dedicated handheld is screwed anyway in 10 years or so.

[QUOTE="JLF1MarkII"]

I think dedicated handhelds will co-exist with smart-phones for the next 10 years or so until everything is DD so it doesn't matter anymore. If Sony kills the Vita though Nintendo will have to carry it be themselves at that point. If that happens the dedicated handheld is screwed. Third party devs will have no reason to go with the system that comes after the 3DS.

SuperFlakeman

What 3rd parties?

3DS will be the only megaton seller video game system in Japan next gen. All Japanese devs will flock to it, especially as they keep failing on the home console front.

either way, sony moved 1.2 million vita units, all up against the 3ds "which is cheaper" and with smart phones on the market AND in a crazy economy we're in. You guys can spin that as bad all you want though.

infinite884

the word of mouth will be the main selling factor for this awesome machine .... I wanna get one but it's not even out here in Egypt in my locality ... but I will snap one as soon as it's avaliable.

Another thread? really? :lol:

Zaibach

Why do you keep bringing up the 10 year thing.

Nintendo has proven that they are capable of adapting. Look at the Wii U controller and e-shop.

Nintendo's handheld in 10 years might be something we didn't even think of today as a possibility. It's pointless to discuss that.

[QUOTE="JLF1MarkII"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Nintendo handhelds did just fine in the past with no competition ya know. Thinking Nintendo somehow needs Sony to stay afloat in the handheld market in order to be succesful is ridiculous.

SuperFlakeman

As I said. Nintendo might be able to keep a small niche audience alive for the handhelds but then comes the question if they shouldn't team up with some other company.

It doesn't really matter as the dedicated handheld is screwed anyway in 10 years or so.

The smaller devs are already moving on, you don't need those to keep Nintendo handhelds afloat.

Yes the Mario Tennis and 100k niche RPGs are important, but the key titles are big hitters. Mainline RE/MGS. MH. Pokemon. Mario. Those titles are the reason why consoles sell 10, 20, 30 millions. Low tier games from the small J devs are a small factor in the big picture, they help by releasing something during droughts, but their business doesn't impact handheld sales at all.

Here's the thing though, the damn system would suck if it only had Nintendo's games on it. No one except for a very small audience would buy it. The Nintendo handheld might be alive but who cares at that point?

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

Another thread? really? :lol:

woodenfork21

[QUOTE="infinite884"]

either way, sony moved 1.2 million vita units, all up against the 3ds "which is cheaper" and with smart phones on the market AND in a crazy economy we're in. You guys can spin that as bad all you want though.

Bigboi500

Another "I hate the Vita and I hope Sony dies thread I see". Yeah c'mon guys, let's hope the Vita and Sony dies! That's always good for the industry we all supposedly love. todd2r

actually u were the first and only one to say any of that nonsense...

Why do you keep bringing up the 10 year thing.

Nintendo has proven that they are capable of adapting. Look at the Wii U controller and e-shop.

Nintendo's handheld in 10 years might be something we didn't even think of today as a possibility. It's pointless to discuss that.

SuperFlakeman

If Sony pulls out of the market the dedicated handheld will die much quicker. That is a fact though and you can gladly quote me on that.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="infinite884"]

either way, sony moved 1.2 million vita units, all up against the 3ds "which is cheaper" and with smart phones on the market AND in a crazy economy we're in. You guys can spin that as bad all you want though.

infinite884

[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]

Another thread? really? :lol:

Zaibach

lol, yeah, this :lol: is the universal smiley for 'butthurt :D

please stop stalking me, its creepy :P

no thats the universal sign for putting on a front lol:P

*butthurt*

[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

[QUOTE="JLF1MarkII"]

Nintendo might be OK, third party devs won't. They will have to move to other services. Sony pulling out of the handheld business will severly damage the smaller Japanese devs.

As I said. Nintendo might be able to keep a small niche audience alive for the handhelds but then comes the question if they shouldn't team up with some other company.

It doesn't really matter as the dedicated handheld is screwed anyway in 10 years or so.

JLF1MarkII

The smaller devs are already moving on, you don't need those to keep Nintendo handhelds afloat.

Yes the Mario Tennis and 100k niche RPGs are important, but the key titles are big hitters. Mainline RE/MGS. MH. Pokemon. Mario. Those titles are the reason why consoles sell 10, 20, 30 millions. Low tier games from the small J devs are a small factor in the big picture, they help by releasing something during droughts, but their business doesn't impact handheld sales at all.

Here's the thing though, the damn system would suck if it only had Nintendo's games on it. No one except for a very small audience would buy it. The Nintendo handheld might be alive but who cares at that point?

The big publishers prefer 3DS and its successor over other types of platforms because that's where the money is.

You can bet that they will make a last stand and the platform of choice will be 3DS. Capcom did their part. Now it's time for other publishers that played the waiting game to jump on board.

A popular $40 cartridge game generates much more revenue than a popular iOS/android game.

[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

Why do you keep bringing up the 10 year thing.

Nintendo has proven that they are capable of adapting. Look at the Wii U controller and e-shop.

Nintendo's handheld in 10 years might be something we didn't even think of today as a possibility. It's pointless to discuss that.

JLF1MarkII

If Sony pulls out of the market the dedicated handheld will die much quicker. That is a fact though and you can gladly quote me on that.

It will undoubtfully shrink if Sony exits, because 3DS will be selling at the same rate it would with or without competition.

I just don't see how it's set in stone that smartphones will take over. There's no indication of that, it's 2012 and 3DS is tracking ahead of DS.

The big publishers prefer 3DS and its successor over other types of platforms because that's where the money is.

You can bet that they will make a last stand and the platform of choice will be 3DS. Capcom did their part. Now it's time for other publishers that played the waiting game to jump on board.

A popular $40 cartridge game generates much more revenue than a popular iOS/android game.

SuperFlakeman

The 3DS's success is already set in stone. I'm talking about the one after it. What I'm saying is that Nintendo easily have another dedicated handheld in it after the 3DS. If the Vita get killed by Sony though I don't think Nintendo will release that system like they plan on now.

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="TheEroica"] you sound butthurt... woodenfork21

lol, yeah, this :lol: is the universal smiley for 'butthurt :D

please stop stalking me, its creepy :P

no thats the universal sign for putting on a front lol:P

*butthurt*

really? what? say it ant so :o

[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

The big publishers prefer 3DS and its successor over other types of platforms because that's where the money is.

You can bet that they will make a last stand and the platform of choice will be 3DS. Capcom did their part. Now it's time for other publishers that played the waiting game to jump on board.

A popular $40 cartridge game generates much more revenue than a popular iOS/android game.JLF1MarkII

The 3DS's success is already set in stone. I'm talking about the one after it. What I'm saying is that Nintendo easily have another dedicated handheld in it after the 3DS. If the Vita get killed by Sony though I don't think Nintendo will release that system like they plan on now.

Like someone said before, Nintendo has done very well without competition in the past when it comes to dedicated gaming handhelds. Nintendo doesn't need Sony or anyone else.

[QUOTE="woodenfork21"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]

Another thread? really? :lol:

Zaibach

It's always the same people debating the vita/3ds stuff... D= am not surprised. :P

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="woodenfork21"] ^^^butthurt:roll:^^^woodenfork21

oh youre mad, youve been on the vita is doomed wagon since december, I have nothing to defend, I dont even own a vita :lol:

keep trying though, you are quite the try-hard :)

[QUOTE="woodenfork21"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]why you mad fork?

Zaibach

oh youre mad, youve been on the vita is doomed wagon since december, I have nothing to defend, I dont even own a vita :lol:

keep trying though, you are quite the try-hard :)

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="woodenfork21"] lol, mad about what? i'm impartial...i don't have a stake in one end or the other. i'm just enjoying ur butthurt reaction after seeing you defend these sales so vigorously in the other thread buddy. no anger here*big hug n a pat on the head*. woodenfork21

oh youre mad, youve been on the vita is doomed wagon since december, I have nothing to defend, I dont even own a vita :lol:

keep trying though, you are quite the try-hard :)

what? no!

come back!!! :cry:

60k on launch week? Thats horrendous.

Why do you always sound so aggressive against the Vita?

JLF1MarkII

[QUOTE="JLF1MarkII"]

Why do you always sound so aggressive against the Vita?

White_Dreams

[QUOTE="White_Dreams"][QUOTE="JLF1MarkII"]

Why do you always sound so aggressive against the Vita?

HarlockJC

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="White_Dreams"] I noticed that too.Bigboi500

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"] This is system wars after all...We don't want someone just posting a link and leave it at that, there needs to be something added. Personally I did not feel like he was attacking the system. White_Dreams

[QUOTE="White_Dreams"][ I mean..why would i be butthurt? I was just noticing something about a lot of his posts, not just this threadHarlockJC

Are you going to defend users now? It would be nice if you were doing this earlier for more users, just FYI.

[QUOTE="JLF1MarkII"]

Why do you always sound so aggressive against the Vita?

White_Dreams

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="White_Dreams"][ I mean..why would i be butthurt? I was just noticing something about a lot of his posts, not just this threadSolidTy

Are you going to defend users now? It would be nice if you were doing this earlier for more users, just FYI.

Us sheep stick together, you big ole cow. :lol: I'm just playing. :P

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"] The reason he says that is rather than attack a single post or point of view you attacked the user. Bigboi500

Are you going to defend users now? It would be nice if you were doing this earlier for more users, just FYI.

Well, I don't care about sales as I've said in many threads, so my posting here is just rare...but I noticed his behaviour in this thread caught my eye as there was trouble in other threads he posted in and he could have sounded off but chose not too.

It's easy to remember that kind of thing. :P

Also, from where I'm sitting gamewise, 3DS > Vita...but that's to be expected considering the timeline difference. :P

[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]

Another thread? really? :lol:

Zaibach

lol, yeah, this :lol: is the universal smiley for 'butthurt :D

please stop stalking me, its creepy :P

60k? LOL Vita flopped.

Hurry up and port Gravity Rush to the PS3, Sony, so it can actually be a financially successful game.

wow...60k launch week? i hope it doesnt become an atari lynx or game gear...but it doesnt look good ...unless they price cut or have some sort of monster game lined up..

will call of duty save vita?

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="TheEroica"] you sound butthurt... CanYouDiglt

lol, yeah, this :lol: is the universal smiley for 'butthurt :D

please stop stalking me, its creepy :P

:P

wow...60k launch week? i hope it doesnt become an atari lynx or game gear...but it doesnt look good ...unless they price cut or have some sort of monster game lined up..

will call of duty save vita?

KBFloYd

COD generally sales well for one reason: people buy the latest installment to play with their friends.

For example... say, the majority of the people you know are going to buy COD on the 360/PS3. Would you buy a PS Vita to play COD, when you already own a console that can and will be played by your friends?

That, and a lot of COD players are so-called "bro" gamers who wouldn't be caught dead with a handheld console.

I don't think COD will do much of anything.

Who cares long as Smartphones dont take over Handheld gaming, and I don't see why people are saying they will if im not mistaken hasn't the 3DS been the fastest selling handheld yet ? Idk we are constantly changing we knows what will happen in 10 years ?

[QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

wow...60k launch week? i hope it doesnt become an atari lynx or game gear...but it doesnt look good ...unless they price cut or have some sort of monster game lined up..

will call of duty save vita?

Tikeio

COD generally sales well for one reason: people buy the latest installment to play with their friends.

For example... say, the majority of the people you know are going to buy COD on the 360/PS3. Would you buy a PS Vita to play COD, when you already own a console that can and will be played by your friends?

That, and a lot of COD players are so-called "bro" gamers who wouldn't be caught dead with a handheld console.

I don't think COD will do much of anything.

So then, is that combining sales with Japan, or world wide sales when excluding Japan? because if its combining, those numbers are sad.