Vita first week sales (UK): 1/4 of PSP debut, 1/2 of 3DS debut (~60k)

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#101 bonesawisready5
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I hope people realise that if the Vita fails there is going to be a lot of pressure on Nintendo from investors to not release a dedicated handheld after the 3DS.

JLF1MarkII
They're doing that now and it won't stop Nintendo at all. You've got to realize this one thing. It isn't that there may not be a market for traditional gaming handhelds, its that there may not be a market for non-Nintendo traditional gaming handhelds. With the 3DS selling 15 million units in 2011, when it sold terrible for 4 months and was only available for 9 months, it could be on track to post another 15 million or close to 20 million unit sales in 2012 alone. The 3DS could very well, and is on track to sell 60-100 million units after 3-6 years even if it never approaches DS like records sales. I'd say that is a market for traditional handhelds. Also, Investors, especially Nintendo's are stupid and fickle. I've read numerous articles on the demands some of them have actually asked Iwata in meetings and they're nearly as stupid as if somebody asked Vince McMahon on a investor's cal why he doesn't fold WWE and buy a NFL team since the NFL consistently crushes Monday Night Raw in ratings.
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#102 bonesawisready5
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Nintendo handhelds did just fine in the past with no competition ya know. Thinking Nintendo somehow needs Sony to stay afloat in the handheld market in order to be succesful is ridiculous.

JLF1MarkII



Nintendo might be OK, third party devs won't. They will have to move to other services. Sony pulling out of the handheld business will severly damage the smaller Japanese devs.

As I said. Nintendo might be able to keep a small niche audience alive for the handhelds but then comes the question if they shouldn't team up with some other company.

It doesn't really matter as the dedicated handheld is screwed anyway in 10 years or so.

Have you seen how much Square Enix is charging for some games on iPhone/iPad? Yea, they will all come crawling back to $30-$40 retail software, be it Vita or 3DS.
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#103 Tikeio
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[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

[QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

wow...60k launch week? i hope it doesnt become an atari lynx or game gear...but it doesnt look good ...unless they price cut or have some sort of monster game lined up..

will call of duty save vita?

White_Dreams

COD generally sales well for one reason: people buy the latest installment to play with their friends.

For example... say, the majority of the people you know are going to buy COD on the 360/PS3. Would you buy a PS Vita to play COD, when you already own a console that can and will be played by your friends?

That, and a lot of COD players are so-called "bro" gamers who wouldn't be caught dead with a handheld console.

I don't think COD will do much of anything.

I dunno, I can't buy that 20 million people feel the same way

Eh... common sense isn't so common, I guess.

Someone who buys every COD game on their 360/PS3 would see little reason to shell out $300 for another console, just to play a watered down port of a game they can already play.

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#104 tagyhag
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Even more great news. :D Get to the price cut Sony!
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#105 Bigboi500
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Even more great news. :D Get to the price cut Sony!tagyhag
...I'm sayin'

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#106 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]Even more great news. :D Get to the price cut Sony!Bigboi500

...I'm sayin'

Although the problem is that I wanted to wait for the 2nd edition Vita, decisions decisions. :P
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#107 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="White_Dreams"][ I mean..why would i be butthurt? I was just noticing something about a lot of his posts, not just this threadSolidTy

The reason he says that is rather than attack a single post or point of view you attacked the user.

Are you going to defend users now? It would be nice if you were doing this earlier for more users, just FYI.

You can take my statement has you will. I was pointing out facts. His first post was not an attack on vita. People who normally attack a user rather than their opinion are normally users who got their feelings hurt.

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#108 shinrabanshou
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N.B. Ironically - depending on how the North and Latin American numbers end up - even with the weaker UK launch PSV and 3DS sold around the same amount in Europe as a whole.

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#109 Solid_Tango
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Why do you always sound so aggressive against the Vita?

JLF1MarkII
Because he has sand in his vagina On topic, the vita is a great console and it is here to stay, haters gonna hate.
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#110 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="JLF1MarkII"]

Why do you always sound so aggressive against the Vita?

Solid_Tango
Because he has sand in his vagina On topic, the vita is a great console and it is here to stay, haters gonna hate.

If the Vita is a console then so is the 3DS! :x
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[QUOTE="Solid_Tango"][QUOTE="JLF1MarkII"]

Why do you always sound so aggressive against the Vita?

tagyhag
Because he has sand in his vagina On topic, the vita is a great console and it is here to stay, haters gonna hate.

If the Vita is a console then so is the 3DS! :x

Yep they are handheld consoles
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#112 White_Dreams
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[QUOTE="White_Dreams"][QUOTE="Tikeio"]

COD generally sales well for one reason: people buy the latest installment to play with their friends.

For example... say, the majority of the people you know are going to buy COD on the 360/PS3. Would you buy a PS Vita to play COD, when you already own a console that can and will be played by your friends?

That, and a lot of COD players are so-called "bro" gamers who wouldn't be caught dead with a handheld console.

I don't think COD will do much of anything.

Tikeio

I dunno, I can't buy that 20 million people feel the same way

Eh... common sense isn't so common, I guess.

Someone who buys every COD game on their 360/PS3 would see little reason to shell out $300 for another console, just to play a watered down port of a game they can already play.

They wouldnt shell out 300 just to play it, it would be a bulletpoint going along with all the other good games ond features on the console, like most console purchases.

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#113 babycakin
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So 60K sold during launch week.. I'm more interested to see where it goes from here

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#114 drakekratos
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1.2 million first week sales SUCK IT!
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#115 AdmiralBison
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[QUOTE="Eponique"] "better than nothing" crowd.shadowchronicle
Its still better than nothing since most of the profit comes from first party games, but yeah the sales aren't that great. As for the market, it isn't getting any better, it is getting worse.

The market is getting worse? Its great for 3DS and iOS. What is meant to be said is the market is worse for Vita.
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#116 AdmiralBison
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[QUOTE="drakekratos"]1.2 million first week sales SUCK IT!

Is that good for a WW launch with half of its sales from a month accumulation from Japan?
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#117 AdmiralBison
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I hope people realise that if the Vita fails there is going to be a lot of pressure on Nintendo from investors to not release a dedicated handheld after the 3DS.

JLF1MarkII
Why? Just because Sonys takings are going down the crapshoot doesn't mean the others are doing as bad. Most of Nintendos handhelds have been smashing success before Sony was around to compete, and Nintendo has the pedigree and clout to weather competition from mobile gaming, unlike the PSP, PSP GO and for Vita?... we will wait and see if people are more interested in picking this up over an iPad 3.
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#118 Tikeio
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[QUOTE="drakekratos"]1.2 million first week sales SUCK IT!AdmiralBison
Is that good for a WW launch with half of its sales from a month accumulation from Japan?

It's just mad cow disease. Let him bask in blissful ignorance.

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#119 shinrabanshou
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[QUOTE="shadowchronicle"]Its still better than nothing since most of the profit comes from first party games, but yeah the sales aren't that great. As for the market, it isn't getting any better, it is getting worse.AdmiralBison
The market is getting worse? Its great for 3DS and iOS. What is meant to be said is the market is worse for Vita.

Any broader impact on the size of the dedicated handheld market that smartphones are having, if they are indeed having any effect, will also affect the 3DS.

If anything the market overlaps with Nintendo's traditionally more broad handheld target demographics even moreso.

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#120 DJ_Headshot
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[QUOTE="JLF1MarkII"]


Yeah, it's priced far too high. As was the 3DS at launch. I would have bought it at now if it was 150£ or something. When I can buy a 360 for the same amount of money with a huge and by now cheap back-catalogue it's clear that Sony have to make some tough decisions.

lundy86_4

I hope they do reduce it. I would actually love to get a Vita.

Hopefully, they can afford to give a price cut.

Yep, the 360 definitely has the library in place, and at super cheap prices for the most part.

If only the vita could play umd games somehow.
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#121 AdmiralBison
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[QUOTE="JLF1MarkII"]

[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

The big publishers prefer 3DS and its successor over other types of platforms because that's where the money is.

You can bet that they will make a last stand and the platform of choice will be 3DS. Capcom did their part. Now it's time for other publishers that played the waiting game to jump on board.

A popular $40 cartridge game generates much more revenue than a popular iOS/android game.garland51

The 3DS's success is already set in stone. I'm talking about the one after it. What I'm saying is that Nintendo easily have another dedicated handheld in it after the 3DS. If the Vita get killed by Sony though I don't think Nintendo will release that system like they plan on now.

Like someone said before, Nintendo has done very well without competition in the past when it comes to dedicated gaming handhelds. Nintendo doesn't need Sony or anyone else.

Nintendo has also done very well with competition in past as well. http://www.1up.com/features/vita-challenge-history-portable-competition
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#122 AdmiralBison
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[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"][QUOTE="shadowchronicle"]Its still better than nothing since most of the profit comes from first party games, but yeah the sales aren't that great. As for the market, it isn't getting any better, it is getting worse.shinrabanshou

The market is getting worse? Its great for 3DS and iOS. What is meant to be said is the market is worse for Vita.

Any broader impact on the size of the dedicated handheld market that smartphones are having, if they are indeed having any effect, will also affect the 3DS.

If anything the market overlaps with Nintendo's traditionally more broad handheld target demographics even moreso.

That is no justification to say the market is getting worse. Unless what he was meant to say the handheld market is getting worse for hardcore handheld gamers then he may have a point. There is overlap with iOS games,however once again Nintendo has the pedigree of franchises, clout(experience in the industry, reputation and fanbase)and know how with what they are doing in the handheld gaming space. This can not be said for Sony. It's really iOS is the only real competition and but I think the market is good enough to sustain Nintendo handhelds. (they don't need to have the most powerful hardware, most graphically intense or the most connected.) The common themes seem to be a good balance of games, cost, marketing, timing and of course fanbase http://www.1up.com/features/vita-challenge-history-portable-competition
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#123 kage_53
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So the Vita has only sold 1.2 million units worldwide?

Bigboi500

I don't get the only part. 1.2 million in 13 days is very good. It's averaging just under 100 thousand a day. It's a lot higher than I thought it would be after seeing how bad the Japanese sales are. I guess the rest of the world is picking up the slack.

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#124 Malta_1980
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While i Plan on getting a PSV, right now its way too expensive and also am waiting for a few exclusive titles to be available... Probably many others feel the same so they didnt get the sytem at launch..

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#125 bonesawisready5
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

So the Vita has only sold 1.2 million units worldwide?

kage_53

I don't get the only part. 1.2 million in 13 days is very good. It's averaging just under 100 thousand a day. It's a lot higher than I thought it would be after seeing how bad the Japanese sales are. I guess the rest of the world is picking up the slack.

Sony's statement is working great. It was 600k in 13 days in 5 markets.
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#126 Pug-Nasty
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Well, we do know that the UK has been historically full of dense people.

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#127 kage_53
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[QUOTE="kage_53"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

So the Vita has only sold 1.2 million units worldwide?

bonesawisready5

I don't get the only part. 1.2 million in 13 days is very good. It's averaging just under 100 thousand a day. It's a lot higher than I thought it would be after seeing how bad the Japanese sales are. I guess the rest of the world is picking up the slack.

Sony's statement is working great. It was 600k in 13 days in 5 markets.

No it wasn't. Sony can not make false statements regarding sales. It's using actual sales not shipped units if that's what you're getting at.

"How well is the PlayStation Vita selling? Sony offered the first indication today, announcing that sales of the new portable have exceeded internal expectations, selling over 1.2 million units worldwide, as of February 26".

"Japanese digital entertainment tracking site Media Create's PS Vita tally through February 19 equaled a little less than 579,000, indicating North America, Europe, Latin America, Hong Kong, Taiwan, South Korea, and Australia combined for about 600,000 system sales..."

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#128 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

So the Vita has only sold 1.2 million units worldwide?

kage_53

I don't get the only part. 1.2 million in 13 days is very good. It's averaging just under 100 thousand a day. It's a lot higher than I thought it would be after seeing how bad the Japanese sales are. I guess the rest of the world is picking up the slack.

Only as in all sales in all regions total since release in Japan. That's three regional releases. That's not very good.

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[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"][QUOTE="kage_53"] I don't get the only part. 1.2 million in 13 days is very good. It's averaging just under 100 thousand a day. It's a lot higher than I thought it would be after seeing how bad the Japanese sales are. I guess the rest of the world is picking up the slack.

kage_53

Sony's statement is working great. It was 600k in 13 days in 5 markets.

No it wasn't. Sony can not make false statements regarding sales. It's using actual sales not shipped units if that's what you're getting at.

"How well is the PlayStation Vita selling? Sony offered the first indication today, announcing that sales of the new portable have exceeded internal expectations, selling over 1.2 million units worldwide, as of February 26".

"Japanese digital entertainment tracking site Media Create's PS Vita tally through February 19 equaled a little less than 579,000, indicating North America, Europe, Latin America, Hong Kong, Taiwan, South Korea, and Australia combined for about 600,000 system sales..."

I never said it wasn't 1.2 million sold. I never said anything about sold/shipped. You're spinning like Sony wants it spun. The 1.2 million includes Japan, so that is in no way "13 days". Take away the Japanese sales and you have 600k for North America, Europe, Latin America, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Australia. Six regions of varying importance/size and it combines for 600k in a real 13 days. I'm 100% sure its 1.2 million sold to customers. I'm also 100% that including the two months of Japanese sales in this and saying "1.2 million in 13 days" is really cheap. I'm not trying to root against the device, I'm going against how this is being portrayed.
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#131 bonesawisready5
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[QUOTE="kage_53"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

So the Vita has only sold 1.2 million units worldwide?

Bigboi500

I don't get the only part. 1.2 million in 13 days is very good. It's averaging just under 100 thousand a day. It's a lot higher than I thought it would be after seeing how bad the Japanese sales are. I guess the rest of the world is picking up the slack.

Only as in all sales in all regions total since release in Japan. That's three regional releases. That's not very good.

It actually includes Korea, Hong Kong, Australia, Latin America as well.
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#132 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="kage_53"] I don't get the only part. 1.2 million in 13 days is very good. It's averaging just under 100 thousand a day. It's a lot higher than I thought it would be after seeing how bad the Japanese sales are. I guess the rest of the world is picking up the slack.

bonesawisready5

Only as in all sales in all regions total since release in Japan. That's three regional releases. That's not very good.

It actually includes Korea, Hong Kong, Australia, Latin America as well.

Yikes. Those figures also include just about everyone who was planning on being an early adopter. Uphill battle is eminent.

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#133 kage_53
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I never said it wasn't 1.2 million sold. I never said anything about sold/shipped. You're spinning like Sony wants it spun. The 1.2 million includes Japan, so that is in no way "13 days". Take away the Japanese sales and you have 600k for North America, Europe, Latin America, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Australia. Six regions of varying importance/size and it combines for 600k in a real 13 days. I'm 100% sure its 1.2 million sold to customers. I'm also 100% that including the two months of Japanese sales in this and saying "1.2 million in 13 days" is really cheap. I'm not trying to root against the device, I'm going against how this is being portrayed.bonesawisready5
See the point I was trying to make was that the Vita will sell well outside of Japan. In Japan it's a lost cause with it's 13k-15k weekly averages until it gets japanese style games on it. In America some people could have gotten it on the 15th if they went for the 3G version. For the rest of the world and for those who didn't do the preorder it's offical launch was on the 22nd (not counting japan) so even if it did 600k outside of Japan it was a 4 day period more or less.

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#134 lordlors
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[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]I never said it wasn't 1.2 million sold. I never said anything about sold/shipped. You're spinning like Sony wants it spun. The 1.2 million includes Japan, so that is in no way "13 days". Take away the Japanese sales and you have 600k for North America, Europe, Latin America, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Australia. Six regions of varying importance/size and it combines for 600k in a real 13 days. I'm 100% sure its 1.2 million sold to customers. I'm also 100% that including the two months of Japanese sales in this and saying "1.2 million in 13 days" is really cheap. I'm not trying to root against the device, I'm going against how this is being portrayed.kage_53

See the point I was trying to make was that the Vita will sell well outside of Japan. In Japan it's a lost cause with it's 13k-15k weekly averages until it gets japanese style games on it. In America some people could have gotten it on the 15th if they went for the 3G version. For the rest of the world and for those who didn't do the preorder it's offical launch was on the 22nd (not counting japan) so even if it did 600k outside of Japan it was a 4 day period more or less.

if Vita fails in Japan, it will fail. Japanese handheld games are superior both in quantity and quality than Western handheld games that much is a fact and if the Japanese abandon Vita, it's all over. That's a big IF there. That's not to say that the Western devs aren't good at making handheld games just that they aren't too keen and focused on it and smartphone market is more attractive to them. The West may have a much bigger and versatile market than Japan but to the Japanese devs, the Japanese market still matters and it is these devs who make great handheld games.
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#135 SolidSnake35
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Well, we do know that the UK has been historically full of dense people.

Pug-Nasty
Perhaps you are confusing the UK with the entire world... and forgetting that the UK at least ruled the world for a period.
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#136 nitekids2004
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Its to be expected considering the launch games are catered to a western audience.

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#137 Malta_1980
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Having tried &played a couple of titles I honestly think PSV has lots of potential, so am hoping to see many great titles being developed/released.. Definately planning to get one later on this summer...

Handheld gamers should be more thanhappy since they have 2 x great systems out which offer / will offer many great games..

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[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]I never said it wasn't 1.2 million sold. I never said anything about sold/shipped. You're spinning like Sony wants it spun. The 1.2 million includes Japan, so that is in no way "13 days". Take away the Japanese sales and you have 600k for North America, Europe, Latin America, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Australia. Six regions of varying importance/size and it combines for 600k in a real 13 days. I'm 100% sure its 1.2 million sold to customers. I'm also 100% that including the two months of Japanese sales in this and saying "1.2 million in 13 days" is really cheap. I'm not trying to root against the device, I'm going against how this is being portrayed.kage_53

See the point I was trying to make was that the Vita will sell well outside of Japan. In Japan it's a lost cause with it's 13k-15k weekly averages until it gets japanese style games on it. In America some people could have gotten it on the 15th if they went for the 3G version. For the rest of the world and for those who didn't do the preorder it's offical launch was on the 22nd (not counting japan) so even if it did 600k outside of Japan it was a 4 day period more or less.

It was 11 days. The fact is that if people wanted to they could've gotten one from Feb. 15th and after. Also, 600k spread across 5-6 regions isn't that big IMO.
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#139 thetruespin
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Pftt... don't go by us Brits. Most of us haven't got a clue when it comes to gaming. We're still amazed with the Wii!
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#140 lulmont
Member since 2010 • 671 Posts

Doomed

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#141 layton2012
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1.2 million LTD is good not great and it is nothing to brag about and it definitely should not be praised as it is by the media, when the 3DS sold approximately 400k in us alone it was labeled a flop, 600k in all regions besides Japan is nothing to celebrate about. My main concern for the vita is besides LBP next month and gravity rush in June, there are no other games I even know of coming to the system this year. Sony is going to have to dedicate practically there entire E3 showcase to the vita this year, with lots of title in a variety of genres to impress me right now, at least for me in the games department I am still underwhelmed, the 3ds may not have had a good or even ok launch, at least they had tons of announced games that I knew were coming i.e. paper Mario, animal crossing, kingdom hearts etc., they still may not have been released but at launch I knew they would eventually release, I can't say the same for Sony, who while they have had the best launch I have ever seen, they have less games announced for the future.. I am happy with the vitas current "Success", but I won't be getting until at least after E3, and I also still believe a price drop is inevitable.
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#142 TopTierHustler
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Sony is doomed lol

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#143 Zaibach
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Pftt... don't go by us Brits. Most of us haven't got a clue when it comes to gaming. We're still amazed with the Wii!thetruespin

what this fella said, in the matters of gaming the experts here in the UK are no smarter than Loosingends

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#144 LP4EVA2005
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Cool beanz
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#145 layton2012
Member since 2011 • 3489 Posts
What's with all the Britain hate. It is really unnecessary.
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#146 AdmiralBison
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What's with all the Britain hate. It is really unnecessary.layton2012
Because something needs to be blamed. Cows blame the U.S. Blame the U.K. Blame Casuals Blame lazy devs Blame biased media. Blame, blame, blame, blame... Incidently say the word so many times it seems to lose its meaning :)
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#147 Bigboi500
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What's with all the Britain hate. It is really unnecessary.layton2012
Britain is the new Canada! :o

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#148 HaloPimp978
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That's too bad. Hopefully Sony can turn things around.