Wada: Square looking into FF Versus XIII for 360.

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#101 HavocV3
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if it does.

I'm guessing people will stop caring about the game, because it would be multiplat:|

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#102 Sollet
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[QUOTE="HavocV3"]

if it does.

I'm guessing people will stop caring about the game, because it would be multiplat:|

SW has always worked like that :P
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#103 FlamesOfGrey
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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="2mrw"] timed exclusive for a game like FF shall kill any further ports for the x360 .... Sony isn't really smart to throw in some money .... imagin if FFXIII was timed exclusive for the PS3, the sales of the x360 would have been halved. Sony's first party games can't compansate for games like FF, Tekken, GTA4 .... not saying the game are the best ever, but they are really such good names that can shadow other games even if they ar subpar.Bazooka_4ME
Yeah, I can see your point about trying to secure some time exclusivity of the big name 3rd party titles. Sony however, doesn't think it's worth paying thousands or maybe even millions of dollars for 6-12 months of exclusivity when that money could help fund a brand new IP or a sequel.

Finally some smart people in here. It's true Sony's 1st party games do sell more than multiplatform games so IMO, I don't think they're going to waste $$ on buying exclusivity for FFXIII Versus.

Exactly and we're not talking about Shin Megami Tensei here. Final Fantasy is a huge franchise from a huge well known company and I'd imagine the cost to keep it exclusive would go into the millions just the same as GTA.
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[QUOTE="Meowmixxvi"]ps3 owners probably have to wait for the 360 version to get done...... again.KittenWishes
Just like when 360 owners had to wait 6 months for the PS3 version of GTAIV to get finished.

wasn't gta4 supposedly a ps3 exclusive till ms paid for it to be multiplat? (read it somewhere here on sw)
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#105 Zaibach
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[QUOTE="KittenWishes"][QUOTE="Meowmixxvi"]ps3 owners probably have to wait for the 360 version to get done...... again.Meowmixxvi
Just like when 360 owners had to wait 6 months for the PS3 version of GTAIV to get finished.

wasn't gta4 supposedly a ps3 exclusive till ms paid for it to be multiplat? (read it somewhere here on sw)

75 million or some such...

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#106 finalstar2007
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When Finalstar sees this he/she will get suicidal :PArach666

Ha! i knew someone mentioned my name :P.. oh why you think i would do dat? im not crazy :P.. seeing how fairly XIII have done on 360 no surprises but i was hoping for it to at least be Timed for PS3 so that the release date wont be extended..they havent confirmed it yet anyways..will see..as long as i get to play it on my system all is good

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#107 FlamesOfGrey
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[QUOTE="Meowmixxvi"][QUOTE="KittenWishes"] Just like when 360 owners had to wait 6 months for the PS3 version of GTAIV to get finished.Zaibach

wasn't gta4 supposedly a ps3 exclusive till ms paid for it to be multiplat? (read it somewhere here on sw)

75 million or some such...

Yeah, Sony just now starting to see profit on the PS3 and losing billions of dollars on the PS3, aren't exactly in the position to be paying like 25 million (just a thought) to keep FF VS XIII exclusive or timed exclusive for a year.

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#108 mD-
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damn it, i don't want to have to wait longer for this game, lol

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#109 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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lol maybe people should wait for official confirmation before getting carried away?
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#110 FlamesOfGrey
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damn it, i don't want to have to wait longer for this game, lol

mD-

It will most likely be the same release plans as FF XIII. In Japan first on PS3 and then worldwide in other areas for PS3/360.

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#111 Zoso-8
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If this is true, I wonder if "cows" will still claim FFvsXIII being the better game (compared to FFXIII). :lol:xsubtownerx
It will be. I couldn't even finish FFXIII it was so awful. This is Square's last chance to bring the series back to it's former glory, IMO. They keep trying to dumb it down for the Halo generation.
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#112 ThePsTriple
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Square Enix arent as good as they used to be, they've been pretty lazy and money hungry this gen so i dont care for their games anymore.. Just like 13, vs13 will be stripped down and gimped just to get it to work on the 360, ive lost alot of respect for square, i probably wont be buying any of their games again.
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#113 the-obiwan
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]When Finalstar sees this he/she will get suicidal :Pfinalstar2007

Ha! i knew someone mentioned my name :P.. oh why you think i would do dat? im not crazy :P.. seeing how fairly XIII have done on 360 no surprises but i was hoping for it to at least be Timed for PS3 so that the release date wont be extended..they havent confirmed it yet anyways..will see..as long as i get to play it on my system all is good

i keep having my lovely jrpg genre on my 360 final my friend :P no need of ps3 x3
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#114 FlamesOfGrey
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lol maybe people should wait for official confirmation before getting carried away?blue_hazy_basic

FF XIII was a bombshell. SE are actually giving PS3 fans a notice so the blow won't be as big and SE won't get as much hatemail this time. I wonder what Japan thinks, they weren't too please with the 360 release of FF XIII either from what I remember.

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#115 jg4xchamp
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I don't care. if FF13 is any indication. The PS3 will have the definitive version again.
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#116 Boomshaffted
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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"]I guess Nomura got overruled by Wada.Kokuro_Kun
I hope not... I hate to seem like a cow over this, but some things just need to stay. You guys can keep your Halo on the Xbox but let me have Final Fantasy!!

Urm... FF wasn't even "yours" to begin with? Even in the FFCow's most beloved generation, the PS gen, it wasn't PS exclusive - the first time I played FF7, it wasn't on the PS. Some of the best FF games ever came out on non-Sony systems. It has been handheld happy every generation. FF needing to "stay" on Sony systems is just silly, since it *never* stayed on Sony systems. If you hate to seem like an petty, blindly loyal Cow over this, you'd better change what you're doing because... That's precisely what you seem like.
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#117 Foxhound_spy
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Yeah dude fanboys here should wait for official confirmation before going banana ........... I think Kojima also gave a hint about MGS4 360 port at some point but nothing happen after that.
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#118 FlamesOfGrey
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Yeah dude fanboys here should wait for official confirmation before going banana ........... I think Kojima also gave a hint about MGS4 360 port at some point but nothing happen after that.Foxhound_spy
Except SE just brought their flagship main title to the 360 and are now saying this could potentially happen with the next game.
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#119 blazinpuertoroc
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I dont care...as long as I dont have to wait an extra 6 freaking months to wait for it to be ported to 360 to release simultaneous with the PS3.

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#120 Lethalhazard
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Absolutely don't care if it doesn't hinder the quality of the game or delay it. Owait. Yeah this'll be a delay up to a year if they decide to release them both at the same time, I guarantee.
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#121 AgentA-Mi6
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I dont want this to happen, but if it does, I wouldn't be surprised and with it the bond between FF and the Playstation Brand would be dead, no other FF remains exclusive for the Ps3 then. Or maybe not, there are still a few FF titles exclusive for the PSP.
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#122 z4twenny
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i didn't like that they had to make changes to ff13 to port it, if they have to make changes to vs 13 i don't want it. it sounded like the perfect game, now im thinking they're going to redo most of it to make it fit on 4 dvd's. which means they'll take out alot of the stuff that makes it ff. like backtracking, side quests (not just monster hunts you dolts) and an openly explorable world. i don't have an issue with the fact that its multiplat, i have an issue of them gimping their original ideas because they "have to" make it multiplat. i also have loyalty issues, i know its a business in an industry based entirely on greed but i think if you tell people for 5 years "no its a ps3 exclusive" you should probably stick to that. i wouldn't appreciate it if someone more or less lied to me for 5 years (as is the case)

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#123 nervmeister
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Another exclusive potentially lost. Hurrah. Now for those of you who do not care, this is kind of good news, more people to play the game.Haziqonfire
At the cost of quality.

Guess we can kiss the world map goodbye. :evil:

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#124 AfterBurnerZ
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If this does happen, this could possibility bring Nomura over the edge. He loves the Playstation brand and Versus is like his baby and if Wada decides to put it on the 360, it could result in some drama.

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#125 djsifer01
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Why would they go multiplat with this game when FF13 hasnt even sold a million copies on the 360? It not worth the costs to make it multiplat.
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#126 Couth_
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Versus has been in the works all most as long as FF13.>WilliamRLBaker

Bollocks son production on Versus stopped for over a year because the team was reassigned to XIII because THAT was taking so long

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#127 AfterBurnerZ
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Why would they go multiplat with this game when FF13 hasnt even sold a million copies on the 360? It not worth the costs to make it multiplat.djsifer01
Pretty sure they still made a huge profit off the 360 version since it wasn't even THAT difficult to port. Crystal Tools is a multi-platform engine.

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#128 z4twenny
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Another exclusive potentially lost. Hurrah. Now for those of you who do not care, this is kind of good news, more people to play the game.nervmeister

At the cost of quality.

Guess we can kiss the world map goodbye. :evil:

that was one of the things i was referring to. +1 , lems just see it as "harharhar we get your game now we plays it too" i see it as "they're going to water down and destroy a game just to make some mediocre extra sales" i really wouldn't care if they didn't just completely demolish the ps3 version so that they can make the versions identical. im sorry they used a dvd drive on a 360, but that doesn't mean you have to just completely screw up both versions of the game.

how they didn't learn with ff13 i'll never know.

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#129 KittenWishes
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If this does happen, this could possibility bring Nomura over the edge. He loves the Playstation brand and Versus is like his baby and if Wada decides to put it on the 360, it could result in some drama.

AfterBurnerZ
Money talks, fanboys walk. Wada > Nomura. Nomura is crap anyway, really don't see the appeal. Amano was SO. MUCH. BETTER.
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#130 WilliamRLBaker
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FFXIII didn't do so well on 360... Well, expect a much longer release date then... Thanks Micro$oft and Lemmings...XenogearsMaster

it didn't do well on the 360? okay.... and yet again...Id like to point you to a destructoid article about people blaming the 360 for ff13's problems.

Edit: 1.29 million on 360...and thats not even with it being released in jpn.

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#131 The_Game21x
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Can't wait for Sony fanboys to claim that this game is ruined now because it might be coming to the Xbox 360.

Oh wait...

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#132 KittenWishes
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Can't wait for Sony fanboys to claim that this game is ruined now because it might be coming to the Xbox 360.

Oh wait...

The_Game21x
lol, yeah, it only took 2.89 seconds.
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#133 the-obiwan
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Can't wait for Sony fanboys to claim that this game is ruined now because it might be coming to the Xbox 360.

Oh wait...

KittenWishes
lol, yeah, it only took 2.89 seconds.

so true there.
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#134 AfterBurnerZ
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[QUOTE="AfterBurnerZ"]

If this does happen, this could possibility bring Nomura over the edge. He loves the Playstation brand and Versus is like his baby and if Wada decides to put it on the 360, it could result in some drama.

KittenWishes

Money talks, fanboys walk. Wada > Nomura. Nomura is crap anyway, really don't see the appeal. Amano was SO. MUCH. BETTER.

Nomura is still a fantastic character designer and created some of their most influential characters and the Kingdom Hearts series. Wada is a businessman who is so out of touch that it's scary. Square needs to replace him with someone who knows good games like when Nintendo hired Satoru Iwata as their President.

Amano's designs are just plain weird. Did you see his version of the Final Fantasy XIII characters? They look like mutants. Also, Stella in Versus XIII is probably Nomura's BEST design ever. Even better than Lightning.

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#135 WilliamRLBaker
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I just hope the game is not gimped because SE is catering to the 360 too.:( Take full advantage of blu ray and the ps3 strength and I will be happy. Please SE dont gimp anything in this game just to make it run properly on the 360. I want huge open worlds,lossless audio,etc...

coltsfan4ever
except they didn't gimp any thing in FF13...
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#136 z4twenny
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^ they gimped side quests/back tracking, exploration. which is actually a pretty big part of the final fantasy series. care to try again?

[QUOTE="KittenWishes"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Can't wait for Sony fanboys to claim that this game is ruined now because it might be coming to the Xbox 360.

Oh wait...

the-obiwan

lol, yeah, it only took 2.89 seconds.

so true there.

360 fanboys aren't in denial at all:roll: . i think most of us "cows" don't care about the sales, we care about the quality. ps3 gamers are used to the considerably high quality of exclusive games as opposed to multiplats. if they can keep it exactly the same then more power to them. but they won't, they'll demolish it just to make it the same on both platforms.

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#137 Anjunaddict
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Contrary to popular cow belief, FFXIII did sell well on the 360.

It sold 0.98 million in "NA" on PS3, and 0.71 on 360. It sold 1.11 million in "rest of the world" on PS3, and 0.58 million on 360.

Obviously the PS3 version sold a lot more, mainly attributed to its Japan release, but when you compare them in the markets they released in, theres not a huge gap. For a first entry on a "shooter" console, FFXIII done fantastic.

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#138 santoron
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Long way from confirmation, so let's not get too carried away. I wouldn't want Lemmings to have to backtrack once they've admitted they want it badly :P

I'm all for SE porting it over to the 360 and giving those fans a chance at another great game as long as:

A: They don't have to change the game to make it work on multiple discs. I think a lot of the hype about Vs. has been that it addresses many of the the things people complained about XIII. Changing the open world concept, backtracking, towns, or cutting content isn't gonna make anyone happy - no matter what system they get it for.

B: They don't delay the release of the PS3 version. Seriously, we've waited a long time for this game. Wrap it up and ship it already. Then for all I care you can put it on every system known to man :)

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#139 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Another exclusive potentially lost. Hurrah. Now for those of you who do not care, this is kind of good news, more people to play the game.nervmeister

At the cost of quality.

Guess we can kiss the world map goodbye. :evil:

yet again...destructoid article.
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#140 2mrw
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[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"]FFXIII didn't do so well on 360... Well, expect a much longer release date then... Thanks Micro$oft and Lemmings...WilliamRLBaker

it didn't do well on the 360? okay.... and yet again...Id like to point you to a destructoid article about people blaming the 360 for ff13's problems.

Edit: 1.29 million on 360...and thats not even with it being released in jpn.

after too much argueing and bragging about it, i believe it's not really the x360's fault, anyway i have to play the game to check the quality myself. you said " 1.29 million on 360" , can i have a source ???? you also said " and thats not even with it being released in jpn" and for that i give you the title " the funniest poster of the day" , i really lol'd .
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#141 Locutus_Picard
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[QUOTE="coltsfan4ever"]

I just hope the game is not gimped because SE is catering to the 360 too.:( Take full advantage of blu ray and the ps3 strength and I will be happy. Please SE dont gimp anything in this game just to make it run properly on the 360. I want huge open worlds,lossless audio,etc...

WilliamRLBaker
except they didn't gimp any thing in FF13...

It will naturally be gimped because of a gimped console system (referring to the 360 offcourse).
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#142 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="the-obiwan"][QUOTE="KittenWishes"] lol, yeah, it only took 2.89 seconds.z4twenny

so true there.

360 fanboys aren't in denial at all:roll: . i think most of us "cows" don't care about the sales, we care about the quality. ps3 gamers are used to the considerably high quality of exclusive games as opposed to multiplats. if they can keep it exactly the same then more power to them. but they won't, they'll demolish it just to make it the same on both platforms.

yet again...Destructoid article...telling of how Silly it is to actually think the 360 version of the game hindered ff13 AT ALL.
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#143 lundy86_4
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360 fanboys aren't in denial at all:roll: . i think most of us "cows" don't care about the sales, we care about the quality. ps3 gamers are used to the considerably high quality of exclusive games as opposed to multiplats. if they can keep it exactly the same then more power to them. but they won't, they'll demolish it just to make it the same on both platforms.

z4twenny

In what way do you expect them to demolish it?

Actual removal of fewatures from the game is more likely going to be due to budget constraints than console limitations if it happens.

The only thing that happened with FFXIII was that the 360 version rendered in sub-HD and the CGI rendered in 720p.

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#144 the-obiwan
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[QUOTE="the-obiwan"][QUOTE="KittenWishes"] lol, yeah, it only took 2.89 seconds.z4twenny

so true there.

360 fanboys aren't in denial at all:roll: . i think most of us "cows" don't care about the sales, we care about the quality. ps3 gamers are used to the considerably high quality of exclusive games as opposed to multiplats. if they can keep it exactly the same then more power to them. but they won't, they'll demolish it just to make it the same on both platforms.

lols uh huh..:roll:

well ill be sure to keep checking this game :] if its worthy or not cause i didnt liked ff 13.

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#145 Arach666
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[QUOTE="KittenWishes"][QUOTE="AfterBurnerZ"]

If this does happen, this could possibility bring Nomura over the edge. He loves the Playstation brand and Versus is like his baby and if Wada decides to put it on the 360, it could result in some drama.

AfterBurnerZ

Money talks, fanboys walk. Wada > Nomura. Nomura is crap anyway, really don't see the appeal. Amano was SO. MUCH. BETTER.

Wada is a businessman who is so out of touch that it's scary. Square needs to replace him...

Please,re read what you just stated.

Do you actually think it makes sense to replace a man that got the company even more profit by porting the game to the 360?

From a business perspective,that makes no sense whatsoever.

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#146 KittenWishes
Member since 2010 • 1165 Posts

[QUOTE="KittenWishes"][QUOTE="AfterBurnerZ"]

If this does happen, this could possibility bring Nomura over the edge. He loves the Playstation brand and Versus is like his baby and if Wada decides to put it on the 360, it could result in some drama.

AfterBurnerZ

Money talks, fanboys walk. Wada > Nomura. Nomura is crap anyway, really don't see the appeal. Amano was SO. MUCH. BETTER.

Nomura is still a fantastic character designer and created some of their most influential characters and the Kingdom Hearts series. Wada is a businessman who is so out of touch that it's scary. Square needs to replace him with someone who knows good games like when Nintendo hired Satoru Iwata as their President.

Amano's designs are just plain weird. Did you see his version of the Final Fantasy XIII characters? They look like mutants. Also, Stella in Versus XIII is probably Nomura's BEST design ever. Even better than Lightning.

Hmm, link to Amano FFXIII characters? I *loved* his FFIX characters; so good.
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#147 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"]FFXIII didn't do so well on 360... Well, expect a much longer release date then... Thanks Micro$oft and Lemmings...2mrw

it didn't do well on the 360? okay.... and yet again...Id like to point you to a destructoid article about people blaming the 360 for ff13's problems.

Edit: 1.29 million on 360...and thats not even with it being released in jpn.

after too much argueing and bragging about it, i believe it's not really the x360's fault, anyway i have to play the game to check the quality myself. you said " 1.29 million on 360" , can i have a source ???? you also said " and thats not even with it being released in jpn" and for that i give you the title " the funniest poster of the day" , i really lol'd .

vgchartz.com and if you have a consistant world wide sales agreegator then please post it, we've needed one for a long while, till then vgchartz.com is what we have, and all official sales postings of the game from SE sales reports support the vgchartz numbers

And thats not even with it being released in jpn....1.29 million without its release in jpn. or are you going to deny that 360 owners in jpn wouldn't have purchased the game? you do know the 360 has over 1 million sales in jpn....And it does get game sales when big games come out on the system over there. A jpn release would have netted it sales over there simple fact How many? who knows but it would have got sales.

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#148 AfterBurnerZ
Member since 2010 • 1304 Posts

Please,re read what you just stated.

Do you actually think it makes sense to replace a man that got the company even more profit by porting the game to the 360?

From a business perspective,that makes no sense whatsoever.

Arach666

It's not even that, his statements and stuff are idiotic. Closed-mega theatres, exclusive demos, and god-awful PR is all his fault. Regardless if he was in charge of the porting of Final Fantasy XIII, all the other stuff he does is horrible.

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#149 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="coltsfan4ever"]

I just hope the game is not gimped because SE is catering to the 360 too.:( Take full advantage of blu ray and the ps3 strength and I will be happy. Please SE dont gimp anything in this game just to make it run properly on the 360. I want huge open worlds,lossless audio,etc...

Locutus_Picard

except they didn't gimp any thing in FF13...

It will naturally be gimped because of a gimped console system (referring to the 360 offcourse).

Why is the 360 gimped exactly?

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#150 Persistantthug
Member since 2009 • 1420 Posts

I think it's worth waiting to find out what will happen before everyone "has a cow"....so to speak. :P