Warhammer to outclass Uncharted 4?

@zeeshanhaider:

1. ND has won best graphic awards on its past 3 games.

2. I quoted DF saying Ryse was the "Most Impressive" game on PC. And showing how little the difference between the X1 and PC version.

3. You have ignored all the facts in front of you and continue to blabber nonsense on SW.

4. Crysis 2 wouldn't even be in the top 10 when it comes to graphics. Much less touch UC4.

Your a hermit with rabes nothing more.

Another reply full of lies. Let me repeat again.

Where did the DF say Ryse when it came to the X1 was the most impressive game on cryengine?

Since you haven't provided the quote after more than 48 hours it is settled that you were lying. I always knew you were a corporate tool. Glad you accepted.

Anyways, so it's settled, there's no game on 900pStation that came close to Crysis 2 as per DF and there won't be a game on 900pStation that matches it technically. LOL 900pStation.

LOL, Naughty Duds, don't have a single technical graphics award to show for themselves even after being for more than 30+ years in the industry and neither do they have a single research paper or rendering tech to their credit. They practically lives off the technology pioneered by PC devs.

LOL, Naughty Duds, have a history of overhyping and underdelivering since 2008. Now they have downgraded their games 4 times in a row. Shame! Shame! Shame! Hell even Sony recently acknowledged how they mislead the press with bullshit videos discussing the Last Guardian debacle on PS3. Burn cow burn and DC over it.

So, let's summarize Naughty Duds:

- No tech to their credit - Check

- No technical graphics award - check

- Bullshit trailers and downgrading games - Check

- Recent example of their backtracking: Surpassing 60FPS and original UC4 trailer bullshit

- No original game to their credit - Check

Naughty Duds just got lucky with UC2 with the casuals ala CoD style and ever since then riding that hype train. If they weren't exclusive to Sony the entire gaming world would be hating on it just like it hates CoD.

Burn Sony drone burn. :D

Oh and I should also throw TLOUR- to the list of achievemnts of Naughty Duds. Such an elite dev, they couldn't get the last gen port to run at a constant 60FPS, lel.

Yeah, remind me again why are we actually discussing a mediocre dev like Naughty Duds?

In my opinion (which lets be honest is what everyone is expressing here), this year. Total War Attila is excellent and can easily stand along side Rome and Shogun 2 (regarded as the two best Total War games by many). Most people's gripes about the Rome 2 style game play is the way the campaign map is split into regions inside larger provinces.

Rome 2 in general is now an excellent game, it was released too early (as are most games these days) early patching brought it up to scratch, fixing the major bugs that should have delayed release and the Imperator Augustus add on (or the core game update patch) brought it up to top tear. This what Attila built on and improved again.

I've played every Total War game (apart from the weird mobile app stuff), Empire is my personal favourite due to scale and the number of playable factions with completely different play styles, it's by far the most ambitious TW game. I couldn't tell you how many hours I've spent playing them all.

@-God-: TW looks like Shit and has run on weaker PCs then the PS4. More delusional hermit babble at its finest!

Just out of interest, what's the last Total War game you played?

@GarGx1: TW:S2

It's biggest obstacle would be the input device not the visuals.

I haven't said anything about TW running on consoles or not, or what would cause problems with them doing so. You just seem very engaged in this thread so I'm guessing you have first hand knowledge of the series and I'm wondering which was the last you played to quantify the "TW looks like shit" part of your last statement.

TW looks amazing for what it is. Total Warhammer on high would make PS4 explode. Just like last gen TW games would make PS3 explode.

Don't be an idiot just because your system of choice is never gfx king or games king.

@zeeshanhaider: DF said Crysis 2 was more impressive then anything on consoles? Please link that!

@-God-: Awards say otherwise troll.

And no TW wouldn't make the PS4 explode. It's just baseless nonsense.

Already linked that, go back a page and see the quote. DF said, next generation consoles (which are current gen consoles now) cannot run crysis triology without downgrading it. Burn Sony drone burn.

I mean, DF knows about the hardware of the most powerful console that has ever been created in the history of mankind, so I'm not surprised they said that. LOL, a cheap ass tablet CPU and GPU that barely matches a 570 from 2010. What da **** is dis shit? :P

Oh and I think I should also throw in the achievements of Naughty Duds:

- No tech to their credit - Check

- No technical graphics award - check

- Bullshit trailers and downgrading games - Check

- Recent example of their backtracking: Surpassing 60FPS and original UC4 trailer bullshit

- No original game to their credit - Check

Naughty Duds just got lucky with UC2 with the casuals ala CoD style and ever since then riding that hype train. If they weren't exclusive to Sony the entire gaming world would be hating on it just like it hates CoD.

Burn Sony drone burn. :D

Oh and I should also throw TLOUR- to the list of achievemnts of Naughty Duds. Such an elite dev, they couldn't get the last gen port to run at a constant 60FPS, lel.

Yeah, remind me again why are we actually discussing a mediocre dev like Naughty Duds?

@zeeshanhaider: No they never said that. So illiterate or delusional, which is it?

What award said PS3 won gfx king over PC for last gen? It's pretty common knowledge/general consensus PC was last gens gfx leader. (not really a leap, now is it?)

And yes, PS4 could never run TW:W. Just like PS3 could never run TW:Shogun or TW:Rome2.

lol

DICE 2010: Awards

"we simply thought we were aligning ourselves with other people with impeccable taste; however, after reading the results from last night's 13th Annual Interactive Achievement Awards (i.e., the DICE awards) we've discovered that we've also aligned ourselves with the entire video game development community."

Outstanding Achievement in Animation: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves

Publisher: Sony Computer Entertainment

Developer: Naughty Dog

Lead Animators: Josh Scherr, Jeremy Lai-Yates, Mike Yosh

Outstanding Achievement in Visual Engineering: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves

Developer: Naughty Dog

Technology Director: Pal-Kristian Engstad

Publisher: Sony Computer Entertainment

Outstanding Achievement in Art Direction: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves

Developer: Naughty Dog

Art Directors: Erick Pangilinan, Robh Ruppel

Outstanding Achievement in Game Play Engineering: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves

Publisher: Sony Computer Entertainment

Developer: Naughty Dog

Lead Game Play Programmer: Travis McIntosh

http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/19/uncharted-2-wins-like-everything-at-interactive-achievement-awar/

lol, hermits be shamed

"we simply thought we were aligning ourselves with other people with impeccable taste...we've discovered that we've also aligned ourselves withthe entire video game development community."

Guess that rules out hermit fanboys and lemmings who only agree with themselves here on system wars. Hermits may try to spin what, "the entire video game development community" means but it's clear to anyone who isn't lashing out in damage control.

BEST: Animations, Engineering, Art Direction and....Gameplay.

As state by, the ENTIRE video game development community. Stay salty hermits. :)

@playharderfool

So UC2 was gfx king last gen over PC? Do you know how insane and wrong that sounds? Console won't ever have gfx king over PC, and that isn't even what those awards stated.

First of all "PC" isn't a game, Uncharted 2 is ;).

Maybe if you started there you would know that platforms don't win these awards, games do.

"over PC" lol do you know how insane THAT sounds?

@playharderfool:

Are you suggesting UC2 had better gfx than Crysis3, Crysis1/2(+Mods), Metro Last Light, The Witcher 2, Far Cry 3, BF3, Batman AC, Skyrim(+Mods) all on Ultra?

If you say yes, be prepared to never be taken seriously again by any gaming community or tech site.

@-God-: You have idiots in here claiming Crysis 2 looks better then UC4 and you expect anyone to take them seriously?

UC also won technical awards for graphics so anything stating otherwise is a lie!

lol, I didn't suggest anything, it's not my fault that people who are infinitely more credible than fanboy hermits and everyone else in the gaming community who isn't a SW fanboy disagrees with your arguments.

Nobody care's who "you" take seriously since no one in THE ENTIRE GAMING COMMUNITY takes arguments like the ones presented here by you hermits in this seriously.

People with credibility + developers of games >>>>>>>>>>> Hermits and their fantasy land SW bubble

It's not up to me to prove anything to you. I am just posting the reality of how things are outside of System War fanboy fantasy land.

It is up to you whether or not you will be able to...DealWithIt#

Outside of SW it's generally accepted PC had the best gfx last gen.

its also generally accepted ps4 holds the graphical crown so far this gen

@-God-: REKT !

Correction, it's generally accepted PC has the most powerful hardware available and run multiplats better. However, it is not generally accepted PC has best graphics of the gen especially when most of it's best graphics are just console multiplats at higher res.

I degrees tho, I gave you a link but I did not see you do the same. Do you have one?

Unless you are just arguing with useless fanboy opinions you should be able to show me the link that says "PC" had the best graphics in 2009 when Uncharted 2 came out? I would very much like to see that award and how many in the industry stand behind that claim.

Hermits like to say, "PC always wins" the problem is I only see hermits say that.

If you are trying to mount a counter argument at the very lest you can support it with outside sources, or not. Unless you think SW fanboys are good for your sources, I'd like to see where you get your argument from.

Even DF disagrees with this. The game looks mediocre during gameplay.

Actually it is generally accepted PC had the best graphics last gen. Crysis3 PC, bro (as well as those other games I listed). If you are scared of simple screenshots (good luck finding a PS3 direct feed that looks better than Last Light, Skyrim/Crysis with mods, or BF3 on Ultra) and only care for awards, both GS/DF had Crysis3 as their best gfx of last gen, and the considerably better looking version was on PC. Thus giving PC gfx king.

You aren't going to argue PS3 had better gfx last gen, are you?

Gamespot, Metacritic, and DigitalFoundry (and numerous other tech sites) are hermits? PC wins at games and gfx, always. Calm down, kid.

The Order is soo bad lol.

No, that is why I don't hear them make that statement.

You seem pretty dense, UC2 came out in 2009. Where is your source that say "PC" had better graphics then?

I am not so much making an argument as pointing out how little of an argument you have. You can't seem to back up anything you are saying, you are just deflecting. I posted a link about UC2 and you started crying about other games that came out at the time and now you've jumped to Crysis 3 a game that came out in 2013 LOL.

That is some pretty wicked damage control.

Many will agree that Crysis 3 was the best looking game in 2013, the same way a whop sided majority will say Uncharted 2 was the best looking game in 2009.

I never made an argument that PC didn't get any games that were regarded as best looking, I am simply pointing out consoles have as well which contradicts you original argument and you don't seem to be able to come up with a proper counter.

And I'm merely stating PC was the graphics king of last gen with those game I listed, especially Crysis3. No console ended up with better GFX.

You can't refute that.

The fact we are even "debating" which system had the best gfx last gen shows how delusional Cows are. This is pretty much a "duh, PC" question if I ever saw one.

So much salt and trolling just because you guys are 2nd place. I hope NX has shitty hardware, you guys won't take 3rd place very well.

@-God-: Salt? That a $400 prebuilt box has some of the best looking games around. That ND consistently wins best visual awards from professionals in the industry?

I also hope the NX has better hardware, it would be sad if it didn't.

@playharderfool:

Crysis 1 came out in 2007 and I'd argue that it had better graphics than Uc2 did in 2009.

I remember this thread in particular:

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/crysis-vs-uncharted-2-graphics-27042900/

I don't know about Jankarcop, but I've admittedly had trouble finding a PC game that came out in 2009 that could go 1 for 1 with UC2. For what it's worth, I'm sure there were a couple modded multiplats that could out do it, UC2 graphics were pretty overrated at the time and PC lost out to it simply because no graphically impressive games came out for PC in that specific year.

@skelly34 , Yup. Crysis and Crysis WarHead both looked better than Uncharted 2.

Yearly awards didn't include those two, since they were 2007/2008 while UC2 came out 2009. But both had better gfx by a large margin. As did Metro which came shortly after UC. Then of course Crysis 2, Crysis 3, Last Light, countless multiplats/mods. It's not even close.

A handful of =/= dozens of the absolute best for 8 years.

Second Place Race.

Crysis from 2007 has better/more advanced graphics than any ps3/360 game. Some ps3/360 games might be better at certain aspects but holistically no 7th gen console game can compete with Crysis 1.

@-God-: That's not how it goes you dumb troll. They vote every year. And the current king by most professional sources is a PS4 exclusive.

Consoles get games on that list every year.

Yet every gen PC is gfx king.

Yet The Order doesn't look as good as The Witcher, Ryse, or Unity on Ultra.

Yet DF agrees TO is only better than other console games, not PC.

Do you have a problem with Jewish people?

Every gen the PC is graphics king? LOL that doesn't even make sense! If you mean a PC game is graphics king every gen well I would hope so since new hardware comes out every 6 months.

The Order looks better then all of those games and you have no valid source to refute that. They have never claimed those were the best looking games on any platform.

How can anyone take hermits seriously when some of them think Crysis 2 looks better then UC4?

@lostrib: No just predictive txt.

1. Digital Foundry said TO is only better looking than other console games, not PC. Valid source. Destroyed.

More valid sources: Direct feeds from players during gameplay. IT looks bad compared to Witcher3 on Ultra.

2. PC is gfx king every gen, and especially so last gen. This is uncontested.

And which one of them are technical awards because I'm not seeing it? What graphical or technical elements did they pioneer that year? Zero, nada, nothing. No technical awards for them. Stay butthurt cows.

Or you now telling me that Animations, Art Direction or Gameplay now considers as technical graphics awards?

So let's summarize Naughty Duds again:

- No tech to their credit - Check

- No technical graphics award - check

- Bullshit trailers and downgrading games - Check

- Recent example of their backtracking: Surpassing 60FPS and original UC4 trailer bullshit

- No original game to their credit - Check

Naughty Duds just got lucky with UC2 with the casuals ala CoD style and ever since then riding that hype train. If they weren't exclusive to Sony the entire gaming world would be hating on it just like it hates CoD.

Burn Sony drone burn. :D

Oh and I should also throw TLOUR- to the list of achievements of Naughty Duds. Such an elite dev, they couldn't get the last gen port to run at a constant 60FPS, lel.

Yeah, remind me again why are we actually discussing a mediocre dev like Naughty Duds?

@AM-Gamer:

LOL, the denial. I'm loving it. First can't provide the quote and now in DC. I'm thinking I should create a thread about Naughty Duds actual achievements (or failures if you will) to enlighten all the cows up. :D

Remain butthurt that your pathetic 900pStation can't even touch Crysis 2 a game from freaking 2011. :P

@zeeshanhaider: You talking about denial. Please make a thread about ND lack of achievements. Then do one about Crysis 2. You have been getting your ass handed to you this entire thread so why not make another? :)

@-God-: No they just specifically brout up console games. They never mentioned your titles period. So keep sucking on that Salt.

lol cows

They'll always try and spin this graphics debate in the wildest of ways.

>We had the most graphically impressive game released within x-amount of time.

>PS4 had the most graphics awards for trailers.

>An unreleased game has better graphics than any PC game.

You might win awards one year, an over-promising demo that was probably ran on PC might look amazing and Sony sure has some pretty trailers.

But you'll never, ever be able to say: "We have the best graphical game" while making a modicum of sense. And, if by some divine miracle, you do get an impressive graphical game and you do become graphics king for a time. It'll be very, very short lived.

@AM-Gamer

Actually, I'm . Would love to see all the cows DC like they are doing here, and I'm also thinking on compiling all the lies Naughty Duds spouted so far. :P

In the mean time, enjoy this summary about Naughty Duds:

- No tech to their credit - Check

- No technical graphics award - check

- Bullshit trailers and downgrading games - Check

- Recent example of their backtracking: Surpassing 60FPS and original UC4 trailer bullshit

- No original game to their credit - Check

Naughty Duds just got lucky with UC2 with the casuals ala CoD4 style and ever since then riding that hype train. If they weren't exclusive to Sony the entire gaming world would be hating on it just like it hates CoD.

Oh and I should also throw TLOUR- to the list of achievements of Naughty Duds. Such an elite dev, they couldn't get the last gen port to run at a constant 60FPS, lel....Oh and while I'm at it, aren't Naughty Duds the one who claimed in 2011 that PS3 has no limits, so what happened to that?

Yeah, remind me again why are we actually discussing a mediocre dev like Naughty Duds? Oh and I'm still waiting for that DF quote where they said Ryse when it came to the X1 was the most impressive game on cryengine? It's more than 72 hours, corporate tool, where's the quote?

@zeeshanhaider: You had two quotes posted several days ago, but we have already established you are a illiterate fool.

Says the guy who thinks PS3/PS4 have the best gfx.

You're like those casual 12 year olds who think playstation is the best, lol. Now shoo, go play your movies.

@-God-: Right now I'm playing the best version of Batman AK, you know the one that works? Then I may go back to the GotY contender BB. You can go pay $20 for a character on your Free to play Moba. Stay Salty! And keep bashing one of the most successful brands in gaming.

@AM-Gamer:

Right now I'm playing the best version of Batman AK, you know the one that works?

lol. The only best version of AK is not owning it. Also, that statement is days away from being false.

Then I may go back to the GotY contender BB.

kek. If Dark Souls didn't win GOTY, BB certainly won't. Also, that title belongs to MGSV, everyone else is just there to help it get on stage by getting on all fours to form makeshift stairs. This is all assuming that GOTY somehow means something.

You can go pay $20 for a character on your Free to play Moba.

Imao. Dota 2 bro, LoL babies aren't even PC gamers.

Stay Salty! And keep bashing one of the most successful brands in gaming.

Rofl. The most generic brands in gaming is what "successful" boils down to.

@AM-Gamer said:

@zeeshanhaider: You had two quotes posted several days ago, but we have already established you are a illiterate fool.

An* illiterate fool.