Warhammer to outclass Uncharted 4?

@Cloud_imperium: UC3 and TloU still have some of the best animations in gaming to this day and they were created on hardware that's 10 years old. You can blabber all you want but ND track record speaks for itself. The gameplay demo is already unmatched from an animation standpoint and SC hasn't shown anything remotely close to that in regards to animations.

Its not all about hardware power when it comes to animations. It matters but it's also about time and talent. And ND has proven time and time again they are some of the best in that department.

well probably though

Naw, everyone knows PC doesn't have the best games and Uncharted has a top 5 GOAT under it.

@Ant_17 said:

Ah , another PC master race thread attacking a console game.

Most insecure fanboys out there. Reads about a Strategy PC game and all he can think about is Uncharted 4...

TC, how many Total War games have been considered Graphics King in their time? Not great looking. Not good for their size/number of elements. How many were considered THE BEST looking game out?

If you responded honestly you have your answer. If you didn't there's no talking to you anyhow.

TW might not be gfx king, but it would never run on PS4 at high settings considering what it technically accomplishes.

And don't talk about gfx kings against PC. PC takes that crown every gen so far, and currently for this gen.

...but will it win over 200 goty awards? >:p

Both statements here aren't contested. Or at least, not by me. They also have nothing to do with the thread.

So was there a point? Seems like the latest example of my original statement: PC fanboys are the most insecure of the lot...

Can you post that list please. I can't find it anywhere.

the OP is not a pc fanboy. he trolls PC too now and then.

No, he's a PC fanboy who likes to troll both console gamers and his own kind.

Sorry but things don't work like that in real life. No is one denying what ND managed to achieve on weak hardware in the past but sooner or later you are forced to hit a wall because of hardware limitations. Uncharted series and TLOU had some of the most blurry looking character models when compared with PC games. And when it comes to animations, other companies have already done a better job while displaying more action on screen because hardware allows them to do so.

link to media showing off this amazing animation in star citizen. and for historical precedent, the most recent example of a pc exclusive having stellar animation.

@gpuking said:

The day a PC game looks as good as this please wake me up from my chamber.

Yawn, surpassed that level in 2010.

AM-Gamer's alt??? Anyways, Star Citizen's animations are currently not fully implemented in playable builds yet and proper stuff will probably be shown next month at Gamescom. But the tech that they are using is better than anything out there. They have talent and hardware to achieve what they want to achieve. Some WIP stuff is already look great and huge improvement over what we have right now. Squadron 42 was shot at Imaginaruim studios, which is founded by Andy Serkis, and worked on movies like Star Wars Ep 7, King Kong, Planet of the Apes, Lords of the rings etc.

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As for existing games, there are a lot of multiplats that have better animations than Uncharted trilogy. If you are talking about exclusives then Total War games are way more impressive in animation department because you don't only see 5 people shooting at each other but thousands of troops fighting each other. Here is 4 years old game:

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With Warhammer, they are going further. Now it's not just Samurai vs Samurai, or Samurai vs Spear Men or Knights, Ninjas etc. Now they have better hardware and more variety in units as well like Orcs, Giants, Trolls, Spiders, Dragons, Griffins, Goblins, Dwarfs etc. Hard to imagine how they they will handle different combat scenarios between X vs Y units but people who saw the demo were impressed. Will see how it goes in real time trailer later this month.

@zeeshanhaider: Why so mad at consoles? PC will always offer better visuals considering the frequent advances in technology compared to consoles.

However one has to appreciate when a console game looks good, and UC4 looks great !!

Will it look better? No, I imagine not. While technically impressive I was underwhelmed with how the new TW games looked after all the hype. Uncharted 4 looks amazing and hats off to the devs for that. Having said that The Last of Us looked quite downgraded from pre-release showings... Hopefully that won't be the case this time.

Will it need lots more resources to power the AI, units on screen, etc.? Yes.

Will it be a better game? Subjective of course but I'd say yes. I'm an RTS whore and love Warhammer though!

I think a comparison between the two games is pointless though as they are too different. Both look great, both should be fun, both series have a good track record. If I pick up a PS4 at some point I'll be grabbing U4 and I'm definitely picking up WTW.

@Cloud_imperium: Now you are talking about amount of action on the screen? That has nothing to do with it. I'm talking about the actual quality of the animation , the way each character moves. There is nothing on PC that can even touch old ND games.

If your asking if SC will have more going on I'm sure it will. But the way each character animates is separate from the amount of action on screen.

@zeeshanhaider: Enough with your bullshit you pathetic troll. Nothing in 2010 touched UC4 and you trying to argue that shows what a delusional Butthurt troll you actually are. PC games can't even surpass the animation quality of ND games from 2010, Infamous SS still has the best particle system and it's a first gen PS4 title. You want to argue Crysis 2 looks better then UC4 and act as if you even have a shred of credibility? GTFO!

And you expect people to take you seriously? PC Games have amount as well as actual quality. No doubt Uncharted 4 raises the bar but let's see how it'll compare to games that will actually be available along with it in 2016... But saying that old ND games are better than anything available on PC is not true at all. You need to face facts.

But...Crysis 2 does looks better. Even the original Crysis when modded looks better.

@phantomfire335: LOL the most delusional fanboys on SW has now gone to hermits! I'm really curious how many of you morons share this opinion.

Oh the irony! XD

You know you can't argue with the fact that the crysis series looks better than uncharted 4 so you go back to attacking hermits. Calling me the moron XD.

@Cloud_imperium: You mentioned an RTS while talking about animation quality. It's hard to argue with someone who has no clue what he's talking about. Your close up of shogun:TW revealed animations on par with PS1 games.

The scale and action was extremely impressive but that's not animation quality.

@phantomfire335: It's such a dumb argument it's like saying MGS1 looked better then MGS2.

UC4 kills Crysis 2 in pretty much every respect. Higher poly character models, higher levels of geometry, Material based lighting, superior animations. It's even on a larger scale.

It's like arguing with someone in a insane asylum. It's pointless. If you can't even acknowledge that there's no point.

You also have 7 post so I'm guessing this is Zeeinhanders alt.

So RTS don't count? Lol, come on man. Uncharted 1-3 has outdated visuals and outdated animations. There are number of games that impress more in that department now. Some due to scale while still maintaining a good quality while others having way better quality... And here is how your PS1 games looked, where characters moved like sticks. Stop it.

@AM-Gamer: or i created my account recently so that i can post on this forum? I don't see why a new account is automatically considered an alt.

@phantomfire335: for such a ridiculous claim it's alt worthy.

@Cloud_imperium: Sure RTS count, but why you would bring up a genre that probably has the worst animations is odd to me. It's like arguing about lighting and then you start talking about textures.

RTS are great for scale and NPC counts but the animation quality is horrid compared to even PS3 games. Do you have any clue how hard it would take to render each npc with the same quality of something like UC3? Much less UC4? It will take at least a decade maybe longer.

I have DF to back me up. What do yo have, a bunch of angry cows that don't know the 'g' of graphics! Go and keep on crying that Naughty Duds have set the bar in the downgrading the shit 4 times in a row and still couldn't match Crysis 2 from 2011 or neither pioneered single rendering tech. They are living off the scraps left by PC devs.

Not to the point cows are hyping it. The last couple of days cows are going butt mad. Now **** it. It's time I'll show them their rightful place. It's time I remind them what tech is powering the pathetic exclusives and what tech is powering the PC games of last 5 or so years.

Their single character model and photomode bullshots from cutscenes ends here.

For example: I can rip apart the last gif that idiot gpuking has posted. It's a classic example of how Baughty Duds wasted all resources on presenting the characters details but missing other realtime features that even Crysis 2 was doing. It's a perfect example of scripted and directed scene. This cutscene/setpiece is not representative of the entire game's graphics.

Holy shit... the meltdown.

@zeeshanhaider: DF? Lol

The same DF that said Ryse when it came to the X1 was the most impressive game on cryengine and then went on to say The Order 1886 was the best looking game on consoles? So since we take DFs word that would make The Order more impressive then anything Crytek produced!

ND has multiple best graphic awards and all you have is cherry picked screenshots comparing pre rendered cut scenes and multiplayer footage from different games. And nobody other then a few delusional hermits have made the ridiculous claim that Crysis 2 looked better then UC4.

Link me where DF said Crysis 2 looked better then UC4 or stfu.

Show me where did they say that and I'll quit SW and if you can't then can we all agree you are an idiot that makes things up for your love of Sony?

Edit: And Naughty Duds don't have a single technical graphics award to show for themselves. They have console ppublications hype based awards but not a single technical award given by any body that takes technical merit into consideration, LOL.

And they are the masters for downgrading their shit no 4 times in a row with no 60FPS to show for themselves, LEL.

@zeeshanhaider: Yes they do you butthurt troll. Because they win the award there not valid? I'll post the quote when I'm back at my PC.

In the meantime keep saying Crysis 2 looks better then UC4 you delusional troll.

See here is what kills me it's already there.. Witcher 3 on the consoles is 900p to 1080p at mediumish settings at 30fps.. Even the Alienware Alpha base machine can play Witcher 3 at higher fps with the same settings as the PS4.. That is a entry level full computer you can get for as cheap at $400 that is the size of a freaking wii.. Which we may see its performance push upwards to %30+ with directx 12 coming out later this month and Witcher 3 said to be DX12 capable..

@AM-Gamer: Crysis 2 looks better than Uncharted 4

it's amazing, isn't it?

@sSubZerOo: Except it's mostly high settings .

And the Alpha would barely run AK even after the patch.

@phantomfire335: Not even close!

... Except we already have videos of people playing AK even in it's crappy state at 1080p on the alpha at the frame rate cap..

@AM-Gamer: by the way, we're still waiting on that Ryse quote :)

@phantomfire335: It's coming but it doesn't matter you will just switch to this account.

@sSubZerOo: The video I saw had medium settings which is lower then console settings.

@AM-Gamer: Hey, whatever floats your boat. Just try not to make a bigger fool of yourself.

@phantomfire335: You said Crysis 2 looked better then UC4 and you are calling me a fool? As I said it's equivalent to arguing with someone at a insane asylum.

It's like your throwing poop and then telling me I need to wash my hands.

Lol, Cows so desperate to be graphics king.

Face reality, it's not happening, kids.

That title will continue to be held by PCs, but the tears and the blubbering about ND are amusing.

So at lower settings than PC. Awesome.

Not lower settings then the Alpha!