WarHawk Dev: Charging for DL Content is BS!!. Take notes MicroSoft!!

This coming from the latest interview from Gameinformer and all this coming straight from the WarHawk Developer, I think MS should really take notes here. Good read. 

GI: Can that single-player content be brought back in some kind of downloadable content pack?

Jobe: I don't know. I have some really strong feelings about the approach to download content. I always joke with some of the guys in the office that for 95 cents you can unlock the X button.I don't think we want to nickel and dime the consumer. If there's a desire for it, then maybe we would revisit it, but we are not releasing Warhawk in a way where, "Oh, there's all this content that should have been in the original game and now I have to pay for it to get it."In my opinion, I think that's BS,and I know that Sony wants to deliver a strong product where you get what you pay for out of the box and that's that. And if people want more content, we'll make more content. But it's not something where we're Trojan-horsing content inside the game that players then have to pay for to unlock. I think that's taking advantage of the consumer.

Hmm sounds like one company should have the same mindset... :::cougsMICROSOFTCoughs::: Charging for Halo 2 maps on a LAST GEN game nonetheless and forcing Epic to charge for new maps coming out for Gears in the coming months. Heres the link to the article by the way

http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200704/N07.0430.1631.48164.htm?Page=2 

guess we know know why the ps3 is 2 thousand dollars more expensiveKaosed

$2,000 more EXPENSIVE!! Its only $200.00 more here, what country you live in?

[QUOTE="Kaosed"]guess we know know why the ps3 is 2 thousand dollars more expensiveBrutonNYC

$2,000 more EXPENSIVE!! Its only $200.00 more here, what country you live in?

ooops my bad, but dont get me wrong, if they are not chargin for dc, its worth the price 

This coming from the latest interview from Gameinformer and all this coming straight from the WarHawk Developer, I think MS should really take notes here. Good read.

GI: Can that single-player content be brought back in some kind of downloadable content pack?

Jobe: I don't know. I have some really strong feelings about the approach to download content. I always joke with some of the guys in the office that for 95 cents you can unlock the X button.I don't think we want to nickel and dime the consumer. If there's a desire for it, then maybe we would revisit it, but we are not releasing Warhawk in a way where, "Oh, there's all this content that should have been in the original game and now I have to pay for it to get it."In my opinion, I think that's BS,and I know that Sony wants to deliver a strong product where you get what you pay for out of the box and that's that. And if people want more content, we'll make more content. But it's not something where we're Trojan-horsing content inside the game that players then have to pay for to unlock. I think that's taking advantage of the consumer.

Hmm sounds like one company should have the same mindset... :::cougsMICROSOFTCoughs::: Charging for Halo 2 maps on a LAST GEN game nonetheless and forcing Epic to charge for new maps coming out for Gears in the coming months. Heres the link to the article by the way

http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200704/N07.0430.1631.48164.htm?Page=2

BrutonNYC

Sounds good, they want to fully deliver right out of the box, either way you'll have choices whether or not you use the content they provide, but at least you won't have to pay for anything extra that should've been in the original game. 

Its ironic how they talk about this yet charge $69.99 for Motorstorm.

[QUOTE="pundog"]

Its ironic how they talk about this yet charge $69.99 for Motorstorm.

R-Dot-Yung

Motorstorm only costed 60

and these games arent made by the same devs

so your point pretty much phails (im aware MS is low on content)

Its ironic how they talk about this yet charge $69.99 for Motorstorm.

pundog

69.99 for Motorstorm?! WHERE!! :::Looks at reciept::: unless im going crazy it says $62.49 when I bought motorstorm

[QUOTE="pundog"]

Its ironic how they talk about this yet charge $69.99 for Motorstorm.

BrutonNYC

69.99 for Motorstorm?! WHERE!! :::Looks at reciept::: unless im going crazy it says $62.49 when I bought motorstorm

If I recall E3 last year... Sony was showing its own Marketplace and how you can buy new weapons for this very game...AntiType

That not motorstrom silly its FullAuto 2, Motorstorm doesnt have weapons 

[QUOTE="AntiType"]If I recall E3 last year... Sony was showing its own Marketplace and how you can buy new weapons for this very game...KaptainKernal

That not motorstrom silly its FullAuto 2, Motorstorm doesnt have weapons

I was refering to WarHawk 

WarHawk Devs is full of it. Their game was simply downsized. They had full intent on charging for new content had this game actually have made retail.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_viewer/frame_lead.php?blog=1&img=1&path=2006/127/psconf3250_screen.jpg

They never said they wouldn't charge for maps in the future. At this point they don't have any plans to because they don't know how successful the game is going to be so anything could happen in the future.

??? so instead of making new contect for the game and charging for it, they just wont make new content at all? Geez atleast with cahrging for it you have the option.htekemerald

In the interview, he was refering to the habit of some developers of sticking content in a game (meaning the graphics libraries and source code are all there) and then simply charging for the two lines of code needed to unlock the product. I agree with this particular developer that this is nothing other than straight BS. Of course, it does reap a massive profit for the studio if the cards are played right, which explains its popularity. Microsoft has always been a fan of charging for extra content like this.

[QUOTE="BrutonNYC"][QUOTE="pundog"]

Its ironic how they talk about this yet charge $69.99 for Motorstorm.

pundog

69.99 for Motorstorm?! WHERE!! :::Looks at reciept::: unless im going crazy it says $62.49 when I bought motorstorm

i dont know if Warhawk is first party or 3rd but if it is:

First Party £40 (£30 on amazon)

third £ 40 - £50 

This coming from the latest interview from Gameinformer and all this coming straight from the WarHawk Developer, I think MS should really take notes here. Good read. 

GI: Can that single-player content be brought back in some kind of downloadable content pack?

Jobe: I don't know. I have some really strong feelings about the approach to download content. I always joke with some of the guys in the office that for 95 cents you can unlock the X button.I don't think we want to nickel and dime the consumer. If there's a desire for it, then maybe we would revisit it, but we are not releasing Warhawk in a way where, "Oh, there's all this content that should have been in the original game and now I have to pay for it to get it."In my opinion, I think that's BS,and I know that Sony wants to deliver a strong product where you get what you pay for out of the box and that's that. And if people want more content, we'll make more content. But it's not something where we're Trojan-horsing content inside the game that players then have to pay for to unlock. I think that's taking advantage of the consumer.

Hmm sounds like one company should have the same mindset... :::cougsMICROSOFTCoughs::: Charging for Halo 2 maps on a LAST GEN game nonetheless and forcing Epic to charge for new maps coming out for Gears in the coming months. Heres the link to the article by the way

http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200704/N07.0430.1631.48164.htm?Page=2 

BrutonNYC

I will never pay for extra content.

Hopefully Warhawk will have extra content but  it will be free to download.

[QUOTE="BrutonNYC"]

This coming from the latest interview from Gameinformer and all this coming straight from the WarHawk Developer, I think MS should really take notes here. Good read. 

GI: Can that single-player content be brought back in some kind of downloadable content pack?

Jobe: I don't know. I have some really strong feelings about the approach to download content. I always joke with some of the guys in the office that for 95 cents you can unlock the X button.I don't think we want to nickel and dime the consumer. If there's a desire for it, then maybe we would revisit it, but we are not releasing Warhawk in a way where, "Oh, there's all this content that should have been in the original game and now I have to pay for it to get it."In my opinion, I think that's BS,and I know that Sony wants to deliver a strong product where you get what you pay for out of the box and that's that. And if people want more content, we'll make more content. But it's not something where we're Trojan-horsing content inside the game that players then have to pay for to unlock. I think that's taking advantage of the consumer.

Hmm sounds like one company should have the same mindset... :::cougsMICROSOFTCoughs::: Charging for Halo 2 maps on a LAST GEN game nonetheless and forcing Epic to charge for new maps coming out for Gears in the coming months. Heres the link to the article by the way

http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200704/N07.0430.1631.48164.htm?Page=2 

Danthegamingman

Dude...lol...nah..I'll let someone else tell you.

[QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"][QUOTE="pundog"]

Its ironic how they talk about this yet charge $69.99 for Motorstorm.

pundog

Motorstorm only costed 60

and these games arent made by the same devs

so your point pretty much phails (im aware MS is low on content)

Who gives a damn? Motorstorm is better then any of those mindnumbingly boring racing games on the 360. And it is online you know, which takes almost forever to become great at that because there are a ton of people who are amazing at the game and can own you, whereas you get nothing more then screaming kiddies on XBL who keep crashing into walls. I am sure new maps will be made available soon for Motorstorm, for free might I add, whenever the development team gets around to adding new levels.

Warhawk will in be insane fun!!!  32 players, 25 maps,  4 player online from same PS3, and dedicated servers!! damn im gettin this game. but seriously microsoft love charging that their motto..BECAUSE its MICROSFOT if anyone notice..lol..elementz28

Holy cow this is going to be one heck of an online game.

Don't forget all the various ways you can play. Vehicle, aerial, and on the ground combat.

[QUOTE="Danthegamingman"][QUOTE="BrutonNYC"]

This coming from the latest interview from Gameinformer and all this coming straight from the WarHawk Developer, I think MS should really take notes here. Good read. 

GI: Can that single-player content be brought back in some kind of downloadable content pack?

Jobe: I don't know. I have some really strong feelings about the approach to download content. I always joke with some of the guys in the office that for 95 cents you can unlock the X button.I don't think we want to nickel and dime the consumer. If there's a desire for it, then maybe we would revisit it, but we are not releasing Warhawk in a way where, "Oh, there's all this content that should have been in the original game and now I have to pay for it to get it."In my opinion, I think that's BS,and I know that Sony wants to deliver a strong product where you get what you pay for out of the box and that's that. And if people want more content, we'll make more content. But it's not something where we're Trojan-horsing content inside the game that players then have to pay for to unlock. I think that's taking advantage of the consumer.

Hmm sounds like one company should have the same mindset... :::cougsMICROSOFTCoughs::: Charging for Halo 2 maps on a LAST GEN game nonetheless and forcing Epic to charge for new maps coming out for Gears in the coming months. Heres the link to the article by the way

http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200704/N07.0430.1631.48164.htm?Page=2 

Bread_or_Decide

Dude...lol...nah..I'll let someone else tell you.

this is funny.

sony has been very vocal of their intention of money making thru e-commerce with PSN.

maybe the dev doesn't understand what e-commerce is...:lol:

Its ironic how they talk about this yet charge $69.99 for Motorstorm.

pundog

this is funny.

sony has been very vocal of their intention of money making thru e-commerce with PSN.

maybe the dev doesn't understand what e-commerce is...:lol:

 

tango90101

 Judging by some of this threads comments, I don't think teh HERD knows either

:lol: Cows have to pay for some crappy content 

damn im gettin this game. but seriously microsoft love charging that their motto..BECAUSE its MICROSFOT if anyone notice..lol..elementz28

randomly putting words together doesn't often work in constructing a sentence. I have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

??? so instead of making new contect for the game and charging for it, they just wont make new content at all? Geez atleast with cahrging for it you have the option.htekemerald

If people didnt want them people wouldn't buy them, right? Consumers vote with their wallets.XaosII

You make a point but its more like this:

People dont want them because you have to pay for it.

[QUOTE="BrutonNYC"]

This coming from the latest interview from Gameinformer and all this coming straight from the WarHawk Developer, I think MS should really take notes here. Good read. 

GI: Can that single-player content be brought back in some kind of downloadable content pack?

Jobe: I don't know. I have some really strong feelings about the approach to download content. I always joke with some of the guys in the office that for 95 cents you can unlock the X button.I don't think we want to nickel and dime the consumer. If there's a desire for it, then maybe we would revisit it, but we are not releasing Warhawk in a way where, "Oh, there's all this content that should have been in the original game and now I have to pay for it to get it."In my opinion, I think that's BS,and I know that Sony wants to deliver a strong product where you get what you pay for out of the box and that's that. And if people want more content, we'll make more content. But it's not something where we're Trojan-horsing content inside the game that players then have to pay for to unlock. I think that's taking advantage of the consumer.

Hmm sounds like one company should have the same mindset... :::cougsMICROSOFTCoughs::: Charging for Halo 2 maps on a LAST GEN game nonetheless and forcing Epic to charge for new maps coming out for Gears in the coming months. Heres the link to the article by the way

http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200704/N07.0430.1631.48164.htm?Page=2 

Danthegamingman

only thing that really TICKS me off with MS, how they can force Epic to charge for maps. when epic has never ever charge us pc gamers for maps or even bonus packs. alfy13

yeah... that's crazy..

PAYING developers for their work?  wtf... 

how dare they...!!!  :roll:

[QUOTE="htekemerald"]??? so instead of making new contect for the game and charging for it, they just wont make new content at all? Geez atleast with cahrging for it you have the option.jonesy1911

 [QUOTE="htekemerald"]??? so instead of making new contect for the game and charging for it, they just wont make new content at all? Geez atleast with cahrging for it you have the option.JJGY

In the interview, he was refering to the habit of some developers of sticking content in a game (meaning the graphics libraries and source code are all there) and then simply charging for the two lines of code needed to unlock the product. I agree with this particular developer that this is nothing other than straight BS. Of course, it does reap a massive profit for the studio if the cards are played right, which explains its popularity. Microsoft has always been a fan of charging for extra content like this.

[QUOTE="alfy13"]only thing that really TICKS me off with MS, how they can force Epic to charge for maps. when epic has never ever charge us pc gamers for maps or even bonus packs. tango90101

yeah... that's crazy..

PAYING developers for their work?  wtf... 

how dare they...!!!  :roll:

[QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="alfy13"]only thing that really TICKS me off with MS, how they can force Epic to charge for maps. when epic has never ever charge us pc gamers for maps or even bonus packs. alfy13

yeah... that's crazy..

PAYING developers for their work?  wtf... 

how dare they...!!!  :roll:

riiight...

i'm sure epic would love to give away all their work..

so you got a copy of the contract between Epic and MS that states MS is forcing them to charge or is this more "logic"?  :roll:

[QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="alfy13"]only thing that really TICKS me off with MS, how they can force Epic to charge for maps. when epic has never ever charge us pc gamers for maps or even bonus packs. Danthegamingman

yeah... that's crazy..

PAYING developers for their work?  wtf... 

how dare they...!!!  :roll:

[QUOTE="Danthegamingman"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="alfy13"]only thing that really TICKS me off with MS, how they can force Epic to charge for maps. when epic has never ever charge us pc gamers for maps or even bonus packs. alfy13

yeah... that's crazy..

PAYING developers for their work?  wtf... 

how dare they...!!!  :roll:

i don't think you're a fakeboy, just a little misguided for trying to make xbox live into pc gaming....

pc gaming is one thing, console gaming is an entirely different being.  Online services included.