Warning new 360 scratch disk when moved

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="def_mode"]

I wasnt even claiming PS3 ownage whatsoever, all Im saying is MS should have added or adopted whatever PS3's way of not sracthing the disk when moved and I got told that its one of my crusade against the PS3.

sigh.

Verge_6

Sad, you never get to understand my point. This is not even system wars related, it just how things work. Sure car crashes are different but the manner is the same. Im sorry that you miss the point.

Just because I am wearing a seatbelt and my car has air bags doesnt mean I will come out alive when I hit my car really hard on a tree but these safety tools increases my chance of not dying.

Same concept with the consoles, accidents are there to stay no matter what you do, you can lessen it by of course placing it properly, that is totaly upto the consumer but for the company, they should provide us the best protection available the technology has to offer.

I use comparison as an example my strengten my point.

According to your suggestion, car companies should stop putting air bags and seat belts and just tell the drivers to drive properly.

Bashing the Xbox 360 for this is the equivalent to throwing a cell phone you KNOW and even WARNED you that it is not water-proof into a toilet and then complaining when it doesn't work when you pull it out because some other phones are water-proof.

[QUOTE="ryetech"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

I don't think there is a single disc drive on the market that won't damage a disc when it is moved... aside from perhaps laptop drives. This isn't a MS or 360 problem, but user error... and always has been.

Microsoft1234

[QUOTE="def_mode"][QUOTE="1kryptic"] There is a safety precaution. It's called DON'T MOVE YOUR DAMN SYSTEM WHEN IT'S ON YOU IDIOT.MFDOOM1983

Thank you Einstein! such a wonderful idea...

[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"]

[QUOTE="ryetech"] PS2, Wii, Xbox1 don't scratch discs when being moved......they were on the market. I mean really, why are people even arguing this anyway? Lemmings need to stop with the damage control and just accept that their console has a cheap drive. Consoles shouldn't be moved anyway though.HuusAsking

how would this NOT happen? Do you even know how DVD drives work?wolverine4262

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="def_mode"] Man, what is your IQ? This is where accidents occur, what if my 2 year old kid just run straight to my 360 and just smashed it with his toy truck? considering its already on the tv stand, it is still low enough for 2 year old kids to touch. What if my wife accidentally pulled the ethernet wire and pulled my 360 off the tv stand while shes cleaning? All these accidents can happen at any unexpected time. You have a lot of ways to minimize the chance of it not scratching your disk and Microsoft has also key ways to minimize disc scratching.def_mode

Thank you Einstein! such a wonderful idea...

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Microsoft1234"] you lost credibility when you said ps2 and xbox dont scratch discs when being moved. They did alot......

MFDOOM1983

Why would you be moving it while playing a game anyway?

[QUOTE="def_mode"]

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] Install your games and stop crying.MFDOOM1983

Thank you Einstein! such a wonderful idea...

[QUOTE="wolverine4262"]how would this NOT happen? Do you even know how DVD drives work?88mphSlayer

i can make my wii and ps3 do somersaults and they don't scratch the disk

this is kind of disappointing

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Microsoft1234"] you lost credibility when you said ps2 and xbox dont scratch discs when being moved. They did alot......

MFDOOM1983

WARNING! Dont move your console while its playing a disk

The guy on that video intended to move the console, therefore, not an accident. An accident is when something bad happened unexpectedly.

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"]A slim PS2 won't, nor will a GameCube, because both use laptop-style disc mounting.def_mode

Wait...why is this thread so big? It's a pretty easy thing to grasp - don't move your system whilst you're playing games :S Don't use the excuse of it getting knocked over or falling off things either....lay it flat/take care of it. This is like saying if you drive your car backwards with your eyes closed you MIGHT CRASH ?! Ravensmash

You could be crusing, obeying the law and everything. Suddenly, WHAM! a drunk speeder runs the red light and T-bones you, and you didn't even know he was coming, he was going so fast.

Similarly, you're in the middle of a Halo 3 session when your lil bro and his buddy are roughhousing and one of them gets knocked back into the TV cabinet.

Bacially, (to put it mildly) crap happens.

[QUOTE="def_mode"]

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] looks like the slim ps2 does scratch discs. http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26940125MFDOOM1983

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"]A slim PS2 won't, nor will a GameCube, because both use laptop-style disc mounting.HuusAsking

Microsoft is the king in producing defective system..

stayhigh1

seriously? this is a ps3fanboys only fuel for attacking the 360 now? AHAHA 360 must be destroying for this to be an attack topic. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH "this just in, moving a stationary disc reading device can scratch discs" BHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH My PS3 scratched my GTA4 when I through the system out the window for being a POS overpriced craptastic poo steak... PS3's are faulty!! GAMES SHOULDN'T GET SCRATCHED WHEN I THROW MY SYSTEM AROUND!

/sarcasm

[QUOTE="def_mode"]

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] looks like the slim ps2 does scratch discs. http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26940125MFDOOM1983

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] looks like the slim ps2 does scratch discs. http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26940125MFDOOM1983

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="def_mode"] What a source! gamespot messageboards! Ive also read here somewhere that world of warcraft is going to the consoles, maybe its true.

HuusAsking

Would it scratch discs through vibration? I say this because people are going to be jumping around whilst playing Kinect games late this year, could cause the 360 to move.

so don't move your system while the disk is spinning. not harddarkspineslayer

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"]Perhaps a source that can be independently verified? To put it mildly, if the PS2 slim and GameCube can scratch discs, then laptop drives aren't immune to scratches, either, since both use locking spindles.

HuusAsking

Wait...why is this thread so big? It's a pretty easy thing to grasp - don't move your system whilst you're playing games :S Don't use the excuse of it getting knocked over or falling off things either....lay it flat/take care of it. This is like saying if you drive your car backwards with your eyes closed you MIGHT CRASH ?! Ravensmash

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Wait...why is this thread so big? It's a pretty easy thing to grasp - don't move your system whilst you're playing games :S Don't use the excuse of it getting knocked over or falling off things either....lay it flat/take care of it. This is like saying if you drive your car backwards with your eyes closed you MIGHT CRASH ?! 93soccer

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] Funny how you dont have a problem making outlandish claims without a verified source. MFDOOM1983

[QUOTE="93soccer"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Wait...why is this thread so big? It's a pretty easy thing to grasp - don't move your system whilst you're playing games :S Don't use the excuse of it getting knocked over or falling off things either....lay it flat/take care of it. This is like saying if you drive your car backwards with your eyes closed you MIGHT CRASH ?! def_mode

Old Xbox 360s did this tooIm_single

Well thats how you know OP is a cow. If he had a 360, he would of noticed it on the 360 disk tray

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] I frankly don't care about being respected or depsised on an internet forum but that's just me. I prefer the PS3 but I wouldn't be defending Sony if they did a bad design problem that can affect me. Microsoft, as Sony, is a company and people pay them money to adquire their products which we expect to work fine. Their job is to give me a good product and my job is not to defend them but to earn the money I use to pay them.kuraimen

The fat PS3 does have a design problem its called Blu Ray drive failure and its happen to alot of people ,me personally twice, but so does every electronic device.

As for this so called problem. User incompetence isnt a hardware fault, stuff like RROD and the example i gave above are hardware faults. But ofc fanboys will hang on to even the tiniest things to bash a system they dont like, really is one of the saddest things i've seen today.

There's a warning in the game manual and on the DVD drive that states not to move the console while the disk is spinning, i wouldnt call that hiding a problem or denying it in any way. :roll:

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]What's outlandish about it? Laptop drive spindles, by design, are meant to prevent scratching even when moved. The slim PS2 and GameCube (both of which I own) have the same style of spindle. Therefore, by transient logic, the slim PS2 and GameCube have spindles designed to prevent scratching even when moved.HuusAsking

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="1kryptic"] What's yours? You act like you can't get threw a day without knocking down your console. First of all, how can your son run into your Xbox with a toy truck if it's on a stand lmao. Push it back or something. If you and your family are that stupid maybe you shouldn't of even bought a console because you obviously can't even take care of it.1kryptic

are there any DVD drives that don't scratch the discs when you move them?ohthemanatee

To everyone saying "this happened on the old xbox360", well that's precisely the problem. NEW model, OLD problems.

Some guy shows in youtube how he placed what most standard dvd drives come with, a rubber protecton where the disc could contact with the hard materials of the reading device. From that point on he can turn the console at will and the disc lives through.

Investing 1$ or less more per console would reduce by a lot the risk of your 60$ game getting a not so nice circle like that, and it does happen aswell out of the console vibration alone.

But yeah, keep blaming what's a design failure on the consumer.

I mean, common sense tells us that a controller isn't meant to fall on the floor, but if it breaks from just a one meter fall something's wrong.