was ff13 good?

I liked FFXIII more then XII.

its one of the most boring games i have ever had the displeasure of playing.

Well it had good graphics.

Crap story

Crap characters

Crap gameplay

Mega crap gameworld

So yeah ... It has Good graphics :)

Great game. Mostly enjoyable characters, apart from Vanille. Story was interesting, and the lore was great. The world was beautiful with great graphics.

Linearity was a bummer, but it still played well and felt like fun.

If you're going to play it, play it in short bursts.

The pacing/tension control was just poor with no time to settle down or explore the world of Cocoon. Even during the game's 'calmer' chapters e.g Sunleth Waterscape, you'll encounter many enemies with few story intermissions throughout, making progression feel like a chore.

FF13>>>>>>>>>>>>>FF12

FFXIII was a damn good game. One of my favorite combat systeems, amazing graphics and music, flawed but still pretty good story with great characters and some emotional moments and a great concept.

FFXIII is nowhere near the best FF, and nowhere near the worst. After the abomination that is FFX-2 AKA charlie's angel rip-off and the disappointment that is FFXII aka blandfest, FFXIII felt like a nice step in the right direction.

Also many FF's are linear, so linearity is not something that is exclusive to FFXIII. If anything FFXIII's linearity was actually pretty fitting for the game. Your group of characters are l'cie, beings who are hated and hunted by those in Cocoon, so therefore they have to constantly be on the run so cocoon's armies doesn't catch up to them; they can't just screw around in a town or go backwards back to a previous location, or else hey would be caught and therefore screwed.

I really enjoyed it, completely worth a full price purchase. The story is decent, some of the characters are very good and the battle system and graphics are incredible.

I honestly don't get the hate for Vanille. I thought she was rather endearing and the one ray of sunshine (Snow as well kinda) in the earlier chapters until Lightning and the rest decided to stop feeling sorry for themselves. She especially matures later on when we realize a bit more about her past. Hope was infinitely more annoying with how many chances he had to talk to Snow and still wouldn't say anything. He grew up later on (later than Vanille IMO). By the end there wasn't a character I didn't like in some way. Sazh was a BAMFSaxsoon

I wasn't really crazy about Vanille either, but she really wasn't any worse than say, Yuffie/Selphie/Rikku/Penelo. Atleast there was actually somewhat of a reason behind her bubbly nature...

And saying Hope is emo is a bit silly. He actually had some legit reasons for being depressed, and he gets over it and probably becomes the most optimistic member by the end of the game; hence the multiple motivational speeches he gave.

And yes, Sazh is awesome.

the combat is extremely boring and easy.....its got almost no depth....but it does have the typical whiney b**** "hope"....

the combat is extremely boring and easy.....its got almost no depth....but it does have the typical whiney b**** "hope"....

lpjazzman220

If you never played a FF game in your life, is FF13 a good start and noob friendly?

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the combat is extremely boring and easy.....its got almost no depth....but it does have the typical whiney b**** "hope"....

Microsoft1234

i seriously hope ur joking....it proved almost no challenge....and was very basic....yeah it looked good....but i kinda want to think when i play an rpg....not watch a movie that u have to sit there and spam X to continue....

[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"][QUOTE="lpjazzman220"]

the combat is extremely boring and easy.....its got almost no depth....but it does have the typical whiney b**** "hope"....

lpjazzman220

i seriously hope ur joking....it proved almost no challenge....and was very basic....yeah it looked good....but i kinda want to think when i play an rpg....not watch a movie that u have to sit there and spam X to continue....

Sure is hyperbole in here. Some of the posts are ridiculous.

Anyways OP, to answer your question, I'd say FF XIII would be very much up your alley with that price and how different it is from FF XII. The game starts off slow, but once you get to the later portions, it gets REALLY good.

The combat system is the shining jewel of the game in my opinion, ranking only behind the Junction/Draw system of Final Fantasy VIII. Creating paradigm decks and constantly switching as needed is very fun.

Take the dive and buy the game.

Edit:

If you never played a FF game in your life, is FF13 a good start and noob friendly?

gago-gago

Yes very much so. The game does a good job of introducing the battle system to you in multiple portions so you aren't overwhelmed at once. If I had to choose one in the series to start off with, it'd be this or Final Fantasy VII as the materia system isn't complicated by any means.

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[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"] the combat was probably the best in the entire series what the hell are you talking about? Microsoft1234

i seriously hope ur joking....it proved almost no challenge....and was very basic....yeah it looked good....but i kinda want to think when i play an rpg....not watch a movie that u have to sit there and spam X to continue....

huh....i find it fun to out think an opponent...and yeah...rpg's while luck based are also skill based...ive been playing about every variation of rpgs for the past 10 or so years...and yeah...some single player games are hard and enjoyable because of it....but i personally think the combat system was very basic...took almost no strategy to win battles...the system was pretty...but i much prefer controlling all of my characters moves...

[QUOTE="lpjazzman220"]

the combat is extremely boring and easy.....its got almost no depth....but it does have the typical whiney b**** "hope"....

Microsoft1234

The combat is not the best in the series you run into monster's see them on screen like in FF12 then you go into battle mode can only control one character

YOU CANT move around in combat like in ff12 but it looks like you can everyone tells me are you moving are you doing that im like no this game plays itself

2 of the characters you don't do a thing with and the one character you can spam moves with and the choices are not is in depth as previous ff games

how is that the best gameplay the best in the series when you only control one character, you can't move around in combat like the last FF which tht one was horrible, and it play nothing like the early FF's with random combat and turns did you even play FFX game was amazing you could summon a aeon it would take up the whole screen it played like an FF had always played but insane graphics an was what FF should be

this one's combat is worse then FF12 IMO much easier and 12's was the worst combat in the series both of these games pretty much auto fight more then any other ff an the combat is misleading cuz it looks like you can move around in battle but you can't which is very ODD

it's garbage.

try resonance of fate if you want a competent console jrpg.

I hated it... There is nothing to do.. And i mean NOTHING, besides battle and watch cutscenes... I dont play RPGS to constantly battle. Give me more things to do, places to explore... or atleast give me the illusion that these places are bigger than they really are jesus. You just walk down hallways, thats it. Everything is just a hallway. Open it up atleast a little bit. It felt like you might as well have been on rails. There was almost no reason to even give control to the player it was so linear.

FFXIII is a great game. It has problems and lacks unified direction but overall, it still stands as a better game.

Ive heard alot of people stating they hate the voice overs. Then i reccommend getting the Chinese version (has Japanese voices with English subs). From what ive heard of the English, the Japanese voice work is significantly better.

Its a whole lot different from FFXII. The is game is good, so it should be worth your money.

it's garbage.

try resonance of fate if you want a competent console jrpg.

Dead-Memories

Meh I liked FFXIII MUCH more than RoF, which was just boring to me.

FFXIII I felt had fun combat, likable characters, an intriguing story, awesome music and graphics, etc. It certainly wasn't easy either. Easily one of the hardest in the series later on in the game. I understand if people don't like it but to say its garbage? Come on. Its a well made game and if you don't how it is thats ok but realize that a lot of people do and for good reason. I will say that it was very linear (no more than lots of JPRGs though, it just didn't disguise that very well..), and very anime so if you aren't into that sort of thing I can see why it wouldn't be enjoyable. The cutscenes, imo, were one of the strongest aspects of the game for me and I couldn't wait to keep seeing more.

At the end of the day, I'd say FFXIII ranks up fairly high in my list of favorite FF games, probably around 5th and I have played all of them.

Asa RPG newcomer, FF13 was a bit of a mixed bag. I loved the battle systems, but I wasn't the biggest fan of the leveling system, and the cast was either hit(Lightning, Sazh, Fang) or miss(Snow, Vanielle, and Hope early on).

Of course it was good, probably great. The problem is that it wasn't the FF that returned the franchise to it's former almighty glory. So even the great felt short with those parameters.

I thought it was alright. FFXIII's combat system is one of my favorites in the series. For the first two chapters, all you do is press x to win, but the system opened up in Chapter 3 - this is where I started to like it. There's a nice little amount of strategy involved with choosing the appropriate paragridms. The leveling up system was alright, just needs more options. It's better than the Sphere Grid though, which isn't saying much I suppose since the Sphere Grid wasn't good. My only complaint in the gameplay is that it's very linear. The whole game, except for one part, is just a hallway. This is a huge step-down from FFXII.

As for the story, I felt it dragged on. It had its moments, but there were a lot of times where I lost interest because nothing interesting happened. The characters were nice, except for Vanille and her voice certainly doesn't help. The presentation was top-notch: superb soundtrack, great visuals and the cutscenes are pretty awesome. The opening cutscene was well-done.

My biggest complaint about FFXIII is that there's nothing to do other than battles. There are no new places to explore, or any interesting side-quests. The side missions are just battles. That's it.

No. It was great.

Like Resident Evil, Final Fantasy needs better direction.

Yes it was good, not my favorite FF but still good.

While I've not played a FF since 8 (and never finished any one of them). I enjoyed 13 (even finished it) more than Assassin's Creed 2 (which I did also enjoy quite a lot). The whole thing was just... fun! The visuals was, in my opinion, up there with uncharted 2, and I think that somehow kept me intrigued. The combat was quite innovative, in the way that it's sort of evolved from the old ATB style combat to something that puts a greater emphasis on tactics, and the combat looked awesome.

From an objective point of view, it was cringy, like very cringy, Vanille was particularly cringy, and Hope was also definitely up there with the cringiness. It was bleeding linear, and absolutely no towns at all, so the only real "break" you get is at around Chapter 10 out of 13. The story... the story was confusing at first, and only less confusing and more boring afterwards, and *not really a spoiler, but still [spoiler] no shocking plot twists... boohoo [/spoiler] sometimes it was absurdly easy, I didn't even want to use any pre-battle buffs because I'd just step on bosses like peas.

Looking back, I still really loved the time playing it. I suppose it's just one of those things you either love or hate.

[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"][QUOTE="lpjazzman220"]

the combat is extremely boring and easy.....its got almost no depth....but it does have the typical whiney b**** "hope"....

ZarbonX

The combat is not the best in the series you run into monster's see them on screen like in FF12 then you go into battle mode can only control one character

YOU CANT move around in combat like in ff12 but it looks like you can everyone tells me are you moving are you doing that im like no this game plays itself

2 of the characters you don't do a thing with and the one character you can spam moves with and the choices are not is in depth as previous ff games

how is that the best gameplay the best in the series when you only control one character, you can't move around in combat like the last FF which tht one was horrible, and it play nothing like the early FF's with random combat and turns did you even play FFX game was amazing you could summon a aeon it would take up the whole screen it played like an FF had always played but insane graphics an was what FF should be

this one's combat is worse then FF12 IMO much easier and 12's was the worst combat in the series both of these games pretty much auto fight more then any other ff an the combat is misleading cuz it looks like you can move around in battle but you can't which is very ODD

It doesn't matter if you can run around or control multiple characters in FFXII, because it didn't amount to anything. It's just a nice feature, nothing more. Most enemies in FFXII were tackled by running up to an enemy and pressing attack, and then watching your characters deliver 3 or for attacks before it fell and moving on. Combat was so streamlined it was practically there just for show.

With FFXIII you have to least pay attention to paradigms, know when to change them, balance healing the heavy damage that enemies deal and trying to stagger them, and if you're not wanting to ruin your own game experience, select your own string of attacks. It's just so much more involved and requires more out of the player.

IMO it was just okish. Past ff tittles were a lot more deeper and had, god forbids, overworlds!!

IMO it was just okish. Past ff tittles were a lot more deeper and had, god forbids, overworlds!!

edo-tensei

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[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

As and old school player of the Final Fantasy franchise (been playing since the first one of the NES), I can honestly say I absolutely adore this game. It's right up there with 7 with me as far as overall fun factor. However, Squee-nicks will never top those SNES FF's, those titles are absolutely phenominal.

PS: FF's 8, 9, 10 (and 10-2), 11, and 12 were complete garbage imo.

How is FFXIII "j-pop?"

The only series that I can really call anything remotely "j-pop" is the Persona series, for its ... j-pop.

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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] FFIX and FFXII completely trash XIII....In fact FFIX is what Final Fantasy should be. Not the J-Pop crap it is now.

texasgoldrush

How is FFXIII "j-pop?"

The only series that I can really call anything remotely "j-pop" is the Persona series, for its ... j-pop.

X-2 wasn't part of the main series.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] FFIX and FFXII completely trash XIII....In fact FFIX is what Final Fantasy should be. Not the J-Pop crap it is now.

texasgoldrush

How is FFXIII "j-pop?"

The only series that I can really call anything remotely "j-pop" is the Persona series, for its ... j-pop.

That's true, but FFX-2 is an outlier in the FF series and it's not FFXIII.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

How is FFXIII "j-pop?"

The only series that I can really call anything remotely "j-pop" is the Persona series, for its ... j-pop.

hakanakumono

That's true, but FFX-2 is an outlier in the FF series and it's not FFXIII.

FFX-2 is the ONLY J-pop FF I know of. :?

Don't see how FF is now "J-pop crap" because of one game out of many in the series...

Yeah, it's good. Don't listen to the massive amount of hyperbole spouted by the SW hivemind, go and buy it.

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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] Then what the hell was X-2?DJ-Lafleur

That's true, but FFX-2 is an outlier in the FF series and it's not FFXIII.

FFX-2 is the ONLY J-pop FF I know of. :?

Don't see how FF is now "J-pop crap" because of one game out of many in the series...

This is just how people complain about JRPGs. You'll also see people complaining that FFXIII has a spikey haired androgynous (male) hero.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Then what the hell was X-2?texasgoldrush

That's true, but FFX-2 is an outlier in the FF series and it's not FFXIII.

FFX-2 is the ONLY J-pop FF I know of. :?

Don't see how FF is now "J-pop crap" because of one game out of many in the series...