Was Halo Combat Evolved ahead of all FPS for its time (better than HL2?)

Halo came out around 2001 it had drop ships landing with tons of enemy troops shooting at u an they looked really good

3 years later half life 2 came out

the drop ships in it looked really bad an didn't fight very well the AI was really horrible for a FPS an the ai was real bad too an very easy to kill

i struggle very hard on the harder levels of halo on higher difficulty setting i think the ai was smarter then its 3 year future fps like half life 2

an the drop ships looked better an felt mroe fit into scenery then half life 2

what ug uys think who have played both?

Halo was amazing, good story, good graphics, and unique gameplay for its time

Better Drop ships = Best FPS of all time

It has been declared. All bow.:twisted:

dude im just saying how caan 3 year old game have better scenery and enemy drop ships than game that came out 3 years later for uber pc rigs an it looked bad i remember watchin halo combat evolved on my like hjgue tv an being blown away espeically compared to my uber gaming rig pc playing half life 2

thats just how i see it a game that comes out 3 years later should beat a game that came out in 2001 in every area shouldn it?

Also Half Life 1 > Halo 1.

So scenery and dropships make Halo the better FPS? I quite liked HL2's backdrop.

This seems more of a subjective thing, in the way of an artstyle preference.

dude im just saying how caan 3 year old game have better scenery and enemy drop ships than game that came out 3 years later for uber pc rigs an it looked bad i remember watchin halo combat evolved on my like hjgue tv an being blown away espeically compared to my uber gaming rig pc playing half life 2

thats just how i see it a game that comes out 3 years later should beat a game that came out in 2001 in every area shouldn it?

ZarbonX

dude im just saying how caan 3 year old game have better scenery and enemy drop ships than game that came out 3 years later for uber pc rigs an it looked bad i remember watchin halo combat evolved on my like hjgue tv an being blown away espeically compared to my uber gaming rig pc playing half life 2

thats just how i see it a game that comes out 3 years later should beat a game that came out in 2001 in every area shouldn it?

ZarbonX

dude im just saying how caan 3 year old game have better scenery and enemy drop ships than game that came out 3 years later for uber pc rigs an it looked bad i remember watchin halo combat evolved on my like hjgue tv an being blown away espeically compared to my uber gaming rig pc playing half life 2

thats just how i see it a game that comes out 3 years later should beat a game that came out in 2001 in every area shouldn it?

ZarbonX

But Half Life 2 did beat Halo:CC in everyway, IMO. I don't think it was that hard because Halo is a massively overated and overhyped game, almost as bad as Half Life 2 imo. There were many other games that did way better than Halo during it's time/after it released too, such as Operation Flashpoint, Arma, and Joint Ops. I could list more...

Huge TV in 2001? Rear projection 4:3 TV or one of those 200lbs tube CRTs?

I still think Perfect Dark is WAAAY ahead of its time and if it was fixed up for today (framerate and controls and such) it would be amazing. The weapon selection is still unmatched.

I dislike Halo, but respect what it did for consoles. At the time it had great graphics, and revolutionary multiplayer.

It also was the game that kept an entire console afloat. A very impressive feat.

I also agree on HL2. It was a very boring FPS. Horrible gunplay, stupid AI, bad vehicle controls, and a cheesy nichy scifi plot.

And the characters, my goodness I've seen more character and life in zombies.

I still think Perfect Dark is WAAAY ahead of its time and if it was fixed up for today (framerate and controls and such) it would be amazing. The weapon selection is still unmatched.

NaveedLife

its still ahead of its time, I dnt know of any other games that has counter co-op and ya, so many cool weapons prefect dark is perfect...needs to be remade for today

I dislike Halo, but respect what it did for consoles. At the time it had great graphics, and revolutionary multiplayer.

dercoo

What does Halo CE on the xbox on the multiplayer front better than Goldeneye(N64)other than possibly having more mp game modes? How was it revolutionary?

[QUOTE="dercoo"]

I dislike Halo, but respect what it did for consoles. At the time it had great graphics, and revolutionary multiplayer.

Arach666

What does Halo CE on the xbox on the multiplayer front better than Goldeneye(N64)other than possibly having more mp game modes? How was it revolutionary?

I believe its cause of the vehicles, no console game had that at the time...i think

Halo 1 was ahead of its time, whether you pc gamers wanna accept it or not.reachrocksman

Gameplay was in a way original, it took alot from other games and dumbed it down for consoles

it did vehicles very good tho

[QUOTE="reachrocksman"]Halo 1 was ahead of its time, whether you pc gamers wanna accept it or not.lx_theo

[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="reachrocksman"]Halo 1 was ahead of its time, whether you pc gamers wanna accept it or not.reachrocksman

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="dercoo"]

I dislike Halo, but respect what it did for consoles. At the time it had great graphics, and revolutionary multiplayer.

gamer-adam1

What does Halo CE on the xbox on the multiplayer front better than Goldeneye(N64)other than possibly having more mp game modes? How was it revolutionary?

I believe its cause of the vehicles, no console game had that at the time...i think

Also Half Life 1 > Halo 1.

SAGE_OF_FIRE

Halo wasn't ahead of it's time, at least gameplay wise compared to other 2001 FPSes. It was however better graphicaly than any 2001 FPS. On the other hand, Half-life 2 really raised the bar when it comes to ingame storytelling.

On consoles? Yes. On PC, no. shalashaska88

sorry bro i had a DELL XPS super gaming computer when half life 2 launched the game looked horrible compared to halo

the graphics were bad the ai wwas worse then any console fps ive ever played

the guns were bad the ammo stuff laying around never made sense in half life 2 u just have random boxes an guns everywehre it was setup very poorly

so no i dont think pc was better at the time of halos launch i played combat evolved ona huge tv an was just in awe of the environments the drop ships the guns thea mount of things on screen the flood coming in with elevator

the vehicles look better

an were took 3 year difference like this game came out 3 years before half life 2 an looked better thats just bad graphics coding imo

Can anyone please tell me what they see in Halo: CE? Because all I saw was boring repetitive levels,cookie cutter plot, unbalanced multiplayer, repetitive action.

Now where's that flameshield...

It's concepts and design were very original. Nothing on any platform had done shooting quite like it. It combined all of the right elements of past FPSs together and added it's own gameplay twists.

Sure we have seen games like Halo CE before, but only in bits and pieces. Halo brought in a tactical nature to its gameplay in a few forms. The most obvious is the level design. Yes it was linear, yet it featured a lot of open ground and variations in the height that weren't just catwalks, bridges, or cliffs. Rolling hills, rocks, and trees were all very useful in cover. The next thing was the AI. We had seen good AI before (Half-Life comes to mind), but Halo really embraced the variations of AI and introduced the idea of the squad based AI, with a defined leader and each member in it's own little role. This AI not only varied in their appearance and their combat, they varied in their approaches to each situation. Every single encounter felt fresh (Flood levels excluded of course) by making every firefight keep its tactical nature by making the player use their surroundings more than just superior firepower.

You add in a very decent story, awesome, no-compromise co-op, some excellent features such as only being able to carry 2 weapons, a grenade throw button, regenerating health, and a nice checkpoint system, and you got yourself a shooter that nearly every other shooter since has tried to emulate in some way.

Playing Halo CE now the only real problem with the whole thing lies with its graphics. It feels like a modern shooter. Everything from the gunplay to the controls. The controls are so much more fluid than in previous console FPSs which come off as extremely stiff (go back and play Medal Of Honor Frontlines to see what I mean. It's freaken night and day) yet still give you accuracy and precision that felt natural. If the graphics were updated to HD and maybe the camera had a little bob to it to make it feel more "modern", you would still think it's a great FPS that offers tons of exciting gameplay. Maybe it wouldn't feel so original today as many shooters have tried to emulate Halo but you would still have a fun time.

Of course you could attack it with saying it didn't do anything new. If that is the case, gaming hasn't changed since the late 90s.

Can anyone please tell me what they see in Halo: CE? Because all I saw was boring repetitive levels,cookie cutterplot, unbalanced multiplayer, repetitive action.

Now where's that flameshield...

Vesica_Prime

Even back in 2001 before every shooter tried to emulate Halo?

See it's easy today to say it was boring and repetitive because so many shooters play like Halo CE. It isn't one of the most highly acclaimed games ever made for no reason.

People on a forum in 2010 saying it was boring and repetitive still can't change the industry wise praise the game got when it came out in 2001.

sorry bro i had a DELL XPS super gaming computer when half life 2 launched the game looked horrible compared to halo

the graphics were bad the ai wwas worse then any console fps ive ever played

the guns were bad the ammo stuff laying around never made sense in half life 2 u just have random boxes an guns everywehre it was setup very poorly

so no i dont think pc was better at the time of halos launch i played combat evolved ona huge tv an was just in awe of the environments the drop ships the guns thea mount of things on screen the flood coming in with elevator

the vehicles look better

an were took 3 year difference like this game came out 3 years before half life 2 an looked better thats just bad graphics coding imo

ZarbonX

WTF?

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The PC version even looks worse... The XBOX version is gonna look downright nasty.

It appears you're just flamebaiting at this point.

[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

Can anyone please tell me what they see in Halo: CE? Because all I saw was boring repetitive levels,cookie cutterplot, unbalanced multiplayer, repetitive action.

Now where's that flameshield...

Wasdie

Even back in 2001 before every shooter tried to emulate Halo?

See it's easy today to say it was boring and repetitive because so many shooters play like Halo CE. It isn't one of the most highly acclaimed games ever made for no reason.

People on a forum in 2010 saying it was boring and repetitive still can't change the industry wise praise the game got when it came out in 2001.

The thing is, I actually played Halo: Combat Evolved back in the days when it was new and I still didn't see what was so special about it.

[QUOTE="shalashaska88"]On consoles? Yes. On PC, no. ZarbonX

sorry bro i had a DELL XPS super gaming computer when half life 2 launched the game looked horrible compared to halo

the graphics were bad the ai wwas worse then any console fps ive ever played

the guns were bad the ammo stuff laying around never made sense in half life 2 u just have random boxes an guns everywehre it was setup very poorly

so no i dont think pc was better at the time of halos launch i played combat evolved ona huge tv an was just in awe of the environments the drop ships the guns thea mount of things on screen the flood coming in with elevator

the vehicles look better

an were took 3 year difference like this game came out 3 years before half life 2 an looked better thats just bad graphics coding imo

So um, THIS

looks better than THIS?

Oh come on.

So um, THIS

looks better than THIS?

Oh come on.

shalashaska88

At this point it can only be seen as trolling :P

So scenery and dropships make Halo the better FPS? I quite liked HL2's backdrop.

This seems more of a subjective thing, in the way of an artstyle preference.

Agreed. But for the most part it's all subjective. I liked Halo CE more than HL 1 or 2. But not by much. As a series, I love them both.cainetao11

Surprisingly I actually prefer the Halo Series. I love HL but have just enjoyed Halo much more (though I haven't read the books).

Still, trying to decipher TC's ramblings is difficult :P

Halo wasn't ahead of it's time, at least gameplay wise compared to other 2001 FPSes. It was however better graphicaly than any 2001 FPS. On the other hand, Half-life 2 really raised the bar when it comes to ingame storytelling.

AdrianWerner

No sorry, HL2 was better. After that is halo ce.

Not even close

can u guys plztake the screenshots away

that halo screenshot does not do the game justice

for one thing i played halo on a huge tv it looked great somethings definetly wrong weith those screenshots im not sayin u shopped em on a bad pc an put on low settings

but yeah i am sayin that thats not xbox screenshotrs i can tell cuz the game looked beter on xbox

and basically those hl2 shots dont even look that good an like i said im gonna get pics of a dropships

HERE is valves crappy rip off of halos dropship made in 2004

HALO ENEMY DROPSHIP lookijng styling 3 years before valve ever made one here it is originally in 2001

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

Halo wasn't ahead of it's time, at least gameplay wise compared to other 2001 FPSes. It was however better graphicaly than any 2001 FPS. On the other hand, Half-life 2 really raised the bar when it comes to ingame storytelling.

jg4xchamp

Anyway, I didn't mean envioremental storytelling. What Half-life 2 did was to raise the bar in how the interactive cut-scenes played, how the virtual actors bahaved in them etc. It's actualy far more meaningful in Episodes 1-2, but the trend started with Half-life 2. And the sad this is, majority of modern FPSes still haven't matched that.

can u guys plztake the screenshots away

that halo screenshot does not do the game justice

for one thing i played halo on a huge tv it looked great somethings definetly wrong weith those screenshots im not sayin u shopped em on a bad pc an put on low settings

but yeah i am sayin that thats not xbox screenshotrs i can tell cuz the game looked beter on xbox

and basically those hl2 shots dont even look that good an like i said im gonna get pics of a dropships

HERE is valves crappy rip off of halos dropship made in 2004

HALO ENEMY DROPSHIP lookijng styling 3 years before valve ever made one here it is originally in 2001

ZarbonX

ZarbonX

Cool Halo: Reach model bro.

can u guys plztake the screenshots away

that halo screenshot does not do the game justice

for one thing i played halo on a huge tv it looked great somethings definetly wrong weith those screenshots im not sayin u shopped em on a bad pc an put on low settings

but yeah i am sayin that thats not xbox screenshotrs i can tell cuz the game looked beter on xbox

and basically those hl2 shots dont even look that good an like i said im gonna get pics of a dropships

HERE is valves crappy rip off of halos dropship made in 2004

HALO ENEMY DROPSHIP lookijng styling 3 years before valve ever made one here it is originally in 2001

ZarbonX

yeeeaah... "HaloReach_-_Spirit. png"

Well done comparing HL2 to Halo Reach.

can u guys plztake the screenshots away

that halo screenshot does not do the game justice

for one thing i played halo on a huge tv it looked great somethings definetly wrong weith those screenshots im not sayin u shopped em on a bad pc an put on low settings

but yeah i am sayin that thats not xbox screenshotrs i can tell cuz the game looked beter on xbox

and basically those hl2 shots dont even look that good an like i said im gonna get pics of a dropships

HERE is valves crappy rip off of halos dropship made in 2004

HALO ENEMY DROPSHIP lookijng styling 3 years before valve ever made one here it is originally in 2001

ZarbonX

All those shots were representative of their respective product. Just stop this asinine posting habit, as it's just downright sad at this point.

Halo looks awful compared to Half-Life 2. This has been proven, you are wrong, get over it.

Edit: As the posters above pointed out... Epic ****ing lol at using Halo Reach dropships :lol: This thread is now just outright hilarious.

dude i don't wanna hear it HALO came out with these enemy ships first sure that might not be the original halo model thats definetly reaches model i think that one was in halo 2

when i first saw the half life 2 ships i thoguth wow what a halo rip off i also thoguht the ai on those ships were much worse an they looked real badon my pc

dude i don't wanna hear it HALO came out with these enemy ships first sure that might not be the original halo model thats definetly reaches model i think that one was in halo 2

when i first saw the half life 2 ships i thoguth wow what a halo rip off i also thoguht the ai on those ships were much worse an they looked real badon my pc

ZarbonX

first off, did you REALLY just imply that halo came out with that style of ship?

Secondly, please explain the similarities between the two.

[QUOTE="ZarbonX"]

dude i don't wanna hear it HALO came out with these enemy ships first sure that might not be the original halo model thats definetly reaches model i think that one was in halo 2

when i first saw the half life 2 ships i thoguth wow what a halo rip off i also thoguht the ai on those ships were much worse an they looked real badon my pc

Kyuushuu_

first off, did you REALLY just imply that halo came out with that style of ship?

Secondly, please explain the similarities between the two.

They both fly. Derp.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

Halo wasn't ahead of it's time, at least gameplay wise compared to other 2001 FPSes. It was however better graphicaly than any 2001 FPS. On the other hand, Half-life 2 really raised the bar when it comes to ingame storytelling.

AdrianWerner

Anyway, I didn't mean envioremental storytelling. What Half-life 2 did was to raise the bar in how the interactive cut-scenes played, how the virtual actors bahaved in them etc. It's actualy far more meaningful in Episodes 1-2, but the trend started with Half-life 2. And the sad this is, majority of modern FPSes still haven't matched that.