Was Oblivion THAT bad?

Ever since Skyrim was anounced, theres been a lot of hate for Oblivion. Many people were saying that Morrowind is better than Oblivion in almost every way. But how? Oblivion was my first ES game and I loved it, spent hundreds of hours in it doing all the quests finding all the artifacts, and exploring the area. It did have flaws, animations were weak, story was mediocre, stats system was too complex, character models and voice acting were bad, but Morrowind had its flaws too. It's stat system was too complex, the combat was just plain horrible, the UI could have been better, and your character's strength seems to rely too much on your equipment.

I'm not saying that either game is bad, if these minor flaws get in the way, your missing the point in playing ES games. I'm just saying that Oblivion was a great sequel to Morrowind, and that it is not nearly as bad as people make it.

Yes the game sucked eggs

Yeah it was pretty bad.

Yeah it was pretty bad.

dommeus

Oblivion is awesome. It had it's flaws(the story wasn't good, the level scaling was stupid as hell, the voice acting is laughable at best and cringe-worthy at worst), but it was still a fine game. People just like to give it crap because it wasn't Morrowind 2, just like there were people that gave Morrowind crap for not being Daggerfall 2.

Oblivion was fantastic. A lot of people hated the scaling enemies, but it wasn't an issue if you knew how to level to outpace them.

Oblivion is awesome. It had it's flaws(the story wasn't good, the level scaling was stupid as hell, the voice acting is laughable at best and cringe-worthy at worst), but it was still a fine game. People just like to give it crap because it wasn't Morrowind 2, just like there were people that gave Morrowind crap for not being Daggerfall 2.

Phoenix534

It only gets hate for the level scaling, I don't think anyone would ever consider one of the most influential and popular games this generation to be "bad".

There's very little sense of progression because of the dumb scaling system. I thought it was pretty awesome once modded however.

I enjoyed it a lot.

Oblivion was bad cause Morrowind was a lot better.

Well From what I get, Oblivion isn't bad. (it got Game of the Year for cryin' out loud.) Just when comparing it to Skyrim (or Morrorwind for that matter), It's probably the worst out of the 3.

But From what I get it's not THAT bad of a Game, people still loved it and I'm pretty sure I would too if I would play it a bit lol.

No, I thought it was a great game. Feels a little dated now but i think it still holds up well.

Level scaling basically ruined the game. Also combat system was dull. Both Morrowind and Skyrim (and even Daggerfall) are better.

I enjoyed it when I played it but after playing Skyrim I can't see myself ever going back. The flaws will become painfully obivous.

It's the worst WRPG I've played that's not named Dragon Age 2 or Fallout 3, so yes, it is that bad.

I remember it being pretty fantastic. I enjoyed Morrowind more because the story and world were more interesting, but Oblivion was still fantastic.

It's a heavily flawed game and RPG (such as lack of unique areas, level scaling and voice acting) but at its heart it's a very fun game.

Oh yeah and being an errand boy sucked in comparison to Morrowind where you learnt about the culture of the people, their legends and prophecies.

One problem I have is how thin its spread. Its the same issue I had with GTA San Andreas, in that there is a lot to do, but none of it excels. The combat is kinda boring, the dialogue is average, voice acting is recycled heavily, the story is passable and the world just doesn't feel too alive. At the very least, Fallout 3 was WAY better (having more voice actors and a better story), and the dead feeling world makes sense in a post apocalyptic wasteland.

I played a ton of Oblivion when it came out and enjoyed it, but whenever I think back on it all I can remember is the things that sucked. Oh well. :?

Well I put 90 hours into the game over several characters and I can't stomach a second more.

Broken level scaling.

Ugly uninspired wilderness that feels very artificial.

about 3 voice actors for the whole game (still a problem in Skyrim actually)

Nightmarish lifeless conversation animations.

The getting-someone-to-like-you-wheel is pure crap.

Terrible main story with one of the lamest final bosses I've seen in a game.

Fast travel defeats all sense of scale and exploration.

copy/paste dungeon structure.

Seriously, level scaling. Do you know how pointless it feels to get up to level 40 with all the best gear in the game, and you go into a dungeon of lowly bandits, and they all have the exact same gear on?

I enjoyed myself while it lasted but it's aged very poorly. It's a game that I couldn't possibly get back into, especially now that Skyrim is out and trumps it in basically every way.

Seriously, level scaling. Do you know how pointless it feels to get up to level 40 with all the best gear in the game, and you go into a dungeon of lowly bandits, and they all have the exact same gear on?

Vaasman

I think Oblivion is amazing. It doesn't hold up well compared to other RPGs now, but it's one of my favorite games this gen.

Oblivion was legendary. Technical issues aside, I thought it was an awesome game, one of the best this gen.

It's the worst WRPG I've played that's not named Dragon Age 2 or Fallout 3, so yes, it is that bad.

DarkLink77

I thought it was great. I put around 150 hours into it when it came out.

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It's the worst WRPG I've played that's not named Dragon Age 2 or Fallout 3, so yes, it is that bad.

When looking at this post, I think it's bad you're literally saying other people should do Bethesda's job and fix the game; the same game that won the most GOTY's of '08. Still a really good game as a whole imo (mid 7's).moose_knuckler

The problem was that if you didn't knew how to level up the game could become broken because the level scalling would make all enemies reach your level and in the worst cases surpass you.

Then the small stuff was bugfest at release. Just like 6 voice actors. Many copy-pasted caves and dungeons. Main story wasn't epic and kinda short.

No of course not, but Morrowind was that good.

It only gets hate imo because: difficulty slider.Spartan070

I played Oblivion first, then played Morrowind because I loved Oblivion so much. I didn't like it one bit. I thought it was really bad. I love Oblivion, and I love Skyrim either more. Bethesda makes some of the best true exploration games. Where you really can go anywhere you want whenever you want and if you want, could get tons and tons of gameplaywithout even playing the story mode

Oblivion was a really bad game. And I installed a bunch of well-known mods that supposedly "fixed" it. It was boring has hell, NPCs had nothing interesting to say, the story was bland, the quests were a chore, all the dungeons were the same, the combat was hideous, it was a completely pointless game. And that's why I won't touch Skyrim or any other Bethesda game for that matter, I don't care how great people say it is. I have far better games to occupy the few hours a week I can dedicate to gaming, such as BF3.