Was Resident Evil 2 the best resident evil game an survival horror game?

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#51 milannoir
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REmake is the best Resident Evil, Eternal Darkness is the best survival horror..no contest.

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I second that. Third place would go to RE2, maybe.

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#52 mexicangordo
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[QUOTE="Darkslayer16"]

Am I the only one that liked 3 more then 2? Also REmake was better then 2 also imo.

finalfantasy94

Right here. I still highly enjoy 2 but I like 3 more.

Hardcore RE fan here and I am with both of you. Although RE2 was the better game, I enjoyed RE3 much more. It was the harder game by far.

As for best RE game in the context of survival horror, REmake takes the cake by a landslide. No RE game will come close to it.

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#53 tormentos
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basically you had a gun the thing ran outa ammo all the time, an like u were like always on edge

these new ones all just like timing events an like ur guns always gonna tons of ammo an its like a arcade game im not scared at all an like i feel like im just wrecking massives amounts of stuff an like just no dude this is survival this isn't omg i gotta be worried dude

u kno?

maybe im just nostaligic an like old games but dude there something very diff with restident evil 2 an like resident evil 4 an 5 i dunno what is but i see something in the gameplay diff

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Yeah it was incredible Resident Evil 1 was also like that,many time i had to ran like hell because i had no ammo.
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#54 Ballroompirate
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RE2 is the best RE, but RE remake for the GC would be the scariest. It's pretty easy going through RE2 now and days, I beat it a few weeks ago in an hour and 10 min.

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#55 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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Fatal Frame II.
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#56 Krelian-co
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yes

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#57 timmy00
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REmake easily.

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#58 chocolate1325
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Best Surivival Horror game not quite and the best RE is RE4.

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#59 Mr_Cumberdale
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"] That's my personal fav. It's still easier than the Resident Evil 1 -> Code Veronica games, but it's offset by its incredible cerebral horror.FrozenLiquid

Hell yeah man. It's the only game where I actually had to take breaks from playing it. It freaked me out that much.

*remembers the exploding mannequin head*

Oh my goooooood!:cry:

I remember that like it was yesterday. Found this youtube video as well.

Welcome back to Hell.

:twisted:

Wow I actually have seen that video myself. If anything, I found the sound design really creepy in that game. The creatures and the ambient 'music' really hits me. :D
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#60 millerlight89
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Silent Hill 2 > RE2 > REmake > Silent Hill 3 > SH Downpour > RE:CV > RE 3 > Amnesia > Penumbra > SH 1 That is my top Survival horror games.
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#61 Shenmue_Jehuty
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RE Remake on the cube was my personal favorite, but RE2 is great as well.

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#62 HaloPimp978
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Nope RE4 was the best.

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#63 lostfan132
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Resident Evil 4 is the greatest in the series, REmake is the greatest survival horror game ever.

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#64 ArisShadows
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Personally its a tosses up between Remake and Zero. I know, Zero, what a shocker. I enjoyed it immensely. Only resident evil I disliked ever was 4, 6 was eh I guess.
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#65 TheFallenDemon
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Resident Evil games were never scary. Back then, they were just a bunch of overglorified point and click adventure games and nowadays they're just a bunch of overglorified TPSs.

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#66 CLOUDsea
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REmake was much better as a Survival Horror game. RE2 was a great game, probably the best story in the series (if that's saying anything), but it was a bit too easy to be the best example of Survival Horror in the series.

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#67 2013th
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Resident evil 2 is my favorite in the series. Resident evil 4 and 5 I would put under all the rest in the series. They're good but i would rather play, the best type of survival horror style.

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#68 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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Silent Hill 2 is the best horror game. I wouldn't call it survival though, because the fear of death isn't that scary in SH games.

Resident Evil 4 is the best survival horror game. That game is just pure perfection.

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#69 goblaa
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Silent hill 2

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#70 clone01
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It was well done...I also liked the early silent hill titles. from the limited time i've had with anmesia: dark descent, it conveys the same desperate tone, and is scary as sh*t.

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#71 lulmont
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Nope that would go to REmake on GCN/Wii

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#72 clone01
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Nope that would go to REmake on GCN/Wii

lulmont
REmake was great! Good call.
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#73 nini200
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Resident Evil 2 is the best RE Period. Echo Night: Beyond is the best survival horror game ever.
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#74 glimpus
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REmake is the only survival horror game in the series, imo.

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That game seriously scared the crap outta me. The earlier Resident Evils were spooky, but the graphics and atmosphere hadn't reached the level that REmake reached. And it was great.

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#75 lightleggy
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RE4 is and always will be the greatest game ever made. It's not really survival horror but that doesn't matter. The game is perfect every which way.

Master_ShakeXXX
the thread tittle clearly says "survival horror" so RE4 is out of place. and tbh I prefer RE3
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#76 lamprey263
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RE4 is my favorite RE game, I like the Fatal Frame games better for survival horror, or even Dead Space more than Resident Evil.
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#77 Fizzman
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Ignoring REmake since they had the opportunity to perfect survival horror, RE2 is the best in the series.

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#78 Jynxzor
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Resident Evil 4 is the best survival horror game.OB-47

How can a game without Survival Horror elements be the best Survival Horror game?

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#79 millerlight89
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Silent Hill 2 is the best horror game. I wouldn't call it survival though, because the fear of death isn't that scary in SH games.

Resident Evil 4 is the best survival horror game. That game is just pure perfection.

OB-47
Says SH 2 is not survival horror, yet RE4 is. :lol:
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#80 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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[QUOTE="OB-47"]

Silent Hill 2 is the best horror game. I wouldn't call it survival though, because the fear of death isn't that scary in SH games.

Resident Evil 4 is the best survival horror game. That game is just pure perfection.

millerlight89

Says SH 2 is not survival horror, yet RE4 is. :lol:

Well it's about surviving ain't it! (?)

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#81 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="OB-47"]

Silent Hill 2 is the best horror game. I wouldn't call it survival though, because the fear of death isn't that scary in SH games.

Resident Evil 4 is the best survival horror game. That game is just pure perfection.

OB-47

Says SH 2 is not survival horror, yet RE4 is. :lol:

Well it's about surviving ain't it! (?)

By that logic I guess every game where you can die is a survival game. You use that logic and say SH2 isn't. You should really think your logic over.
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#82 RyviusARC
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Hell yeah man. It's the only game where I actually had to take breaks from playing it. It freaked me out that much.

*remembers the exploding mannequin head*

Oh my goooooood!:cry:

Master_ShakeXXX

I remember that like it was yesterday. Found this youtube video as well.

Welcome back to Hell.

:twisted:

That brings back fond memories. I kind of forgotten that sound played such an important role in making SH3 so frightening. I wish more games today were like that. Dead Space does a great job with it's sound but the game it's self isn't really scary.

The one moment of SH3 that will always stand out in my mind is when you knocked on the bathroom stall door, walked away, and then the door slowly opened by it's self. That right there was enough to make me pause the game. You seldom see brilliance like that in video games anymore. My hat is off to Team Silent, one of the greatest developers out there.

Well if you want you can watch it being played in HD (not HD collection version). I played through the whole game and uploaded my whole playthrough to youtube in high quality 1200P with the least amount of compression. To me the most disturbing parts were in the hospital when everything goes to hell. Here are all of my videos from Silent Hill 3. Just be sure to watch it in "Original" resolution mode for the best quality. Part 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x2-lhbiKGE Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IIRhaFJPt0 Part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7BBDh0_jfQ Part 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJsNT96dw_g Part 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swirKIxvSdQ Part 6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGfw5_qwuHQ
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#83 lightleggy
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Silent Hill 2 is the best horror game. I wouldn't call it survival though, because the fear of death isn't that scary in SH games.

Resident Evil 4 is the best survival horror game. That game is just pure perfection.

OB-47
are you stupid or something? survival horror isnt about "being afraid of dying!" survival horror is a game that gives you scarce resources and terrible chances at fighting enemies. RE4 had a huge freaking arsenal backed up with tons of lead and medicines so that you would never ran out, and leon was a killing machine, the gameplay enabled him to be that. compare that to puny human james, running around with barely enough bullets to fend off enemies in an extremely narrow hallway (that most likely wont be cleared) or having to go around town knowing the biggest weapon you'll get will be a regular hunting rifle that BARELY HAS BULLETS. how isn't it survival horror and RE4 is?
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#84 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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[QUOTE="OB-47"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] Says SH 2 is not survival horror, yet RE4 is. :lol: millerlight89

Well it's about surviving ain't it! (?)

By that logic I guess every game where you can die is a survival game. You use that logic and say SH2 isn't. You should really think your logic over.

That was a joke and mostly a criticsm of the survival horror term applied to it by some people. I still love the game though.

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#85 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="OB-47"]

Well it's about surviving ain't it! (?)

OB-47

By that logic I guess every game where you can die is a survival game. You use that logic and say SH2 isn't. You should really think your logic over.

That was a joke and mostly a criticsm of the survival horror term applied to it by some people. I still love the game though.

Well those people are stupid. I find a survival horror game to be defined as going up against overwhelming odds with little in the way of defending yourself. It's about playing as a normal (well not normal in terms of SH) human being, not some crzy powerful guy who can kill hundreds of soldiers, or aliens, or monsters, It's about picking your battles, and not killing everything in sight, Frictional games knows what survival horror is.
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#86 hippiesanta
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Dring those years.... yes... Re2 is the best
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#87 soapandbubbles
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RE4 is and always will be the greatest game ever made. It's not really survival horror but that doesn't matter. The game is perfect every which way.

Master_ShakeXXX
Thats what i use to think, then realized how shocking the gameplay is, you still can't move and his melee animations are so overblown sending enemies flying across half the land. If it wasn't for some great atmosphere and enemies...the game would've been overlooked. It does something well. but with all the ammo avaliable and a merchant...it's hard to take it seriously as a RESIDENT EVIL game, IMO.
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#88 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

RE4 is and always will be the greatest game ever made. It's not really survival horror but that doesn't matter. The game is perfect every which way.

soapandbubbles
Thats what i use to think, then realized how shocking the gameplay is, you still can't move and his melee animations are so overblown sending enemies flying across half the land. If it wasn't for some great atmosphere and enemies...the game would've been overlooked. It does something well. but with all the ammo avaliable and a merchant...it's hard to take it seriously as a RESIDENT EVIL game, IMO.

The merchant is so stupid and just out of place. It totally kills the atmosphere
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#89 jg4xchamp
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F*ck no. Resident Evil 4 is the better game, and Resident Evil Remake on gamecube is the better game using the older formula. That and Silent Hill 2, Amnesia, Penumbra, and even Fatal Frame were better as "horror" experiences.
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code veronica dreamcast version
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#91 jg4xchamp
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System Shock 2 is the best survival-horror game. That game had me on edge more than any RE or Silent Hill title.drinkerofjuice
Sh1t, forgot system shock 2.
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#92 CLOUDsea
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[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

RE4 is and always will be the greatest game ever made. It's not really survival horror but that doesn't matter. The game is perfect every which way.

millerlight89

Thats what i use to think, then realized how shocking the gameplay is, you still can't move and his melee animations are so overblown sending enemies flying across half the land. If it wasn't for some great atmosphere and enemies...the game would've been overlooked. It does something well. but with all the ammo avaliable and a merchant...it's hard to take it seriously as a RESIDENT EVIL game, IMO.

The merchant is so stupid and just out of place. It totally kills the atmosphere

I thought he fit in just fine.

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#93 Jynxzor
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F*ck no.jg4xchamp
Hey! Don't you diss RE2 had some of the best moments of the series, seriously that damn interogation room....that damn interogation room...
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]F*ck no.Jynxzor
Hey! Don't you diss RE2 had some of the best moments of the series, seriously that damn interogation room....that damn interogation room...

Even if we take into account our differences on Resident Evil(mostly 4, and the old games, I think we both are a bit on the same page that RE 5 is dumb(albeit I think it's fun in coop) and that RE 6 looks hella dumb) there is no way RE2 even has a case for best game using that older formula.

The Remake on gamecube spanks it. And then there is the other horror games. From the Silent Hill series(1-3). To the some what sloppy Fatal Frame(mostly 2). To modern stuff like Amnesia, Penumbra, Scratches, Siren(okay Siren is pushing it, but it's pretty good). To something like System Shock 2(SHODAN!). I can concede it being better than the original RE(though it had way better voice acting) and Nemesis(...well toss up, I like Nemesis)

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="soapandbubbles"] Thats what i use to think, then realized how shocking the gameplay is, you still can't move and his melee animations are so overblown sending enemies flying across half the land. If it wasn't for some great atmosphere and enemies...the game would've been overlooked. It does something well. but with all the ammo avaliable and a merchant...it's hard to take it seriously as a RESIDENT EVIL game, IMO. CLOUDsea

The merchant is so stupid and just out of place. It totally kills the atmosphere

I thought he fit in just fine.

Yea a guy with a small arsenal of weapons jusy chilling in the middle of nowhere with monsters running loose really made sense. :roll:
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#96 almasdeathchild
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damn classics liked more then the new?

system wars knows their RE for sure

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#97 Jynxzor
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and Nemesis(...well toss up, I like Nemesis)jg4xchamp
Personally I liked RE3 the best of the classic series, the guy really came out of nowhere all the time. Also his voice was spot on, I have no idea why they have changed it every time he has graced the screen sense. Still get a chill down my spine when I hear S.T.A.R.S.... Silent Hill did horror really well (It's fallen off the wagon recently as well) but it never gave me that utter dread of meeting a monster that Resident Evil did. Silent hill was always more of a Mind F*ck horror, where Resident Evil went for very visceral and "Real" horror. Being set in the real world and not spooky hell world helped it alot for me. Then again them guys who hid under cars in Silent hill...got me everytime. It's such a shame that the biggest awesome parts of Silent Hill were mere technical limitations half the time (mainly the fog) the even Konami didn't realize because they somehow goofed it with the HD remakes.
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#98 CLOUDsea
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[QUOTE="CLOUDsea"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] The merchant is so stupid and just out of place. It totally kills the atmospheremillerlight89

I thought he fit in just fine.

Yea a guy with a small arsenal of weapons jusy chilling in the middle of nowhere with monsters running loose really made sense. :roll:

I'm not saying that it made logical sense, but the gameplay and story of RE4 are essentially one man taking on an army. A ridiculous arsenal at his disposal made sense in that context.

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#99 CLOUDsea
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]and Nemesis(...well toss up, I like Nemesis)Jynxzor
Personally I liked RE3 the best of the classic series, the guy really came out of nowhere all the time. Also his voice was spot on, I have no idea why they have changed it every time he has graced the screen sense. Still get a chill down my spine when I hear S.T.A.R.S.... Silent Hill did horror really well (It's fallen off the wagon recently as well) but it never gave me that utter dread of meeting a monster that Resident Evil did. Silent hill was always more of a Mind F*ck horror, where Resident Evil went for very visceral and "Real" horror. Being set in the real world and not spooky hell world helped it alot for me. Then again them guys who hid under cars in Silent hill...got me everytime. It's such a shame that the biggest awesome parts of Silent Hill were mere technical limitations half the time (mainly the fog) the even Konami didn't realize because they somehow goofed it with the HD remakes.

The execution of Nemesis was great, but I liked Birkin better. Although Nemesis was arguably Birkin and Mr. X taken to the next level, it felt a bit "been there done that" to me, especially coming directly after RE2. Love RE3 though and would take "been there done that" over whatever Capcom is doing now. Although we did get Rachel in Revelations.

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#100 jg4xchamp
Member since 2006 • 64057 Posts
On replays he's a little too scripted, and the scenarios playing out the same kind of bug me. Though I guess that's fine for a game that came out in what, 99?That sh1t annoyed me though with Bioshock 2 and the Big Sister. She was far too scripted, and borderline predictable. That said I never bought into Resident Evil's horror.