Was the dual shock designed for Non-humans?

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#1 Forensic-Klown
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The thing is so awkward, like sleeping on rocks covered with nails.

Its unnatural and doesn't fit your hands correctly.

It only feels decent if you use the 1 and 1 buttons, if triggers are used...thats where things feel bad, expecially shooters that use the triggers for fire.

I guess the blame should be the small handles.

for the majority of other titles its works well, with the 2 and 2 buttons only used for certain things. those things need to be placed higher about the same hight as the 1 1, buttons...to feel better.

Sony should have redesigned it for the PS3 and not use the same controller for 3 generations.

I actually think the boomarang design would have felt great, too bad sony was forced to change it..due to the MANY complaints.

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#2 Flexmaster_365
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Amen brotha, preach. That thing was never comftorable and it sucks for FPS games.
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#3 omgimba
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I think its okay..

Like the xbox 360 controller much better though.

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#4 Lto_thaG
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You're not supposed to sleep on it :|
I love the dualshock and have no problems with it:)
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#5 112505
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Dualshock controller is pretty bad, but the PC is worse. They don't even get controllers same with the Wiimote hahaahhahahaah what a gimmick.
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#6 warmaster670
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Dualshock controller is pretty bad, but the PC is worse. They don't even get controllers same with the Wiimote hahaahhahahaah what a gimmick.112505

M+K>controllers, not to mention pc gamers have a wider selection of actual controllers than any console

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#7 fuzzysquash
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Dualshock is still the best controller ever, imo. The 360 controller takes a close second, but for me, the Dualshock remains more comfortable.

I just got the Dualshock 3 today. The only problem w/ it is that it uses the Sixaxis' L2 and R2 buttons, which are inferior to the PS2 Dualshock's ones.

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#8 Andrew_Xavier
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What size are your hands? Fits mine perfectly, I prefer the DS3 to the 360 controller.

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#9 Forensic-Klown
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You're not supposed to sleep on it :|
I love the dualshock and have no problems with it:)Lto_thaG

Your suppose to read, properly.

awkaward...like some one sleeping on rocks, yeah a bad analogy..but whatever.

to each there own, but it just feels bad.

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#10 mingo123
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dual shock aint THAT bad...it is pretty bad for FPS tho....but other then that games are fine with dual shock.....360 controller is better
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#11 Forensic-Klown
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hope to god the next sony console doesn't use it AGAIN.

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#12 Mayhem48
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I also think it sucks, the analogue sticks are not positioned right and the triggers don't curve inwards so your fingers easily slip off. But really you cant get good controllers for FPS.
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#13 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]You're not supposed to sleep on it :|
I love the dualshock and have no problems with it:)Forensic-Klown

Your suppose to read, properly.

awkaward...like some one sleeping on rocks, yeah a bad analogy..but whatever.

to each there own, but it just feels bad.


I was just joking :P
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#14 Andrew_Xavier
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Sony should have redesigned it for the PS3 and not use the same controller for 3 generations.

Forensic-Klown

I always read that, but, xbox fanatics tell me, how is:

Xbox

All that different from:

Xbox Controller

I know, there are trigger controls that replaced the black/white and the start/select was moved, but, overall, is it *really* different enough from the old one to be mocking everything sony does controller wise?

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#15 Flexmaster_365
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[QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

Sony should have redesigned it for the PS3 and not use the same controller for 3 generations.

Andrew_Xavier

I always read that, but, xbox fanatics tell me, how is:

Xbox

All that different from:

Xbox Controller

I know, there are trigger controls that replaced the black/white and the start/select was moved, but, overall, is it *really* different enough from the old one to be mocking everything sony does controller wise?

It was almost perfect before and now its perfect.

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#16 -Roger-Wilco-
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It was almost perfect before and now its perfect.Flexmaster_365
Except for that damn d-pad of course...
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#17 Andrew_Xavier
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It was almost perfect before and now its perfect.

Flexmaster_365

Same could be easily said for the ps1-ps2 upgrade, which again, begs to ask why one of the points of insult towards the ps3 is they didn't change the controller enough, which is a very odd insult, the answer is of course "why fix what ain't broken, they were going to, people wanted what's comfortable, so, they went with it, Sony listens to their fanbase"

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#18 killerfist
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[QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

Sony should have redesigned it for the PS3 and not use the same controller for 3 generations.

Andrew_Xavier

I always read that, but, xbox fanatics tell me, how is:

Xbox

All that different from:

Xbox Controller

I know, there are trigger controls that replaced the black/white and the start/select was moved, but, overall, is it *really* different enough from the old one to be mocking everything sony does controller wise?

the controller for the 360 is way better than the xbox one. its smaller and the black/white button change is very well done. the black/white buttons were in a crap position. and the simple small changes are there for a reason: why change a great concept?

ps3 DS controllers arent that bad btw, but I prefer the 360 for sure. the analog sticks are in a better position imo and it fits my hands perfectly.

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#19 Flexmaster_365
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[QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"]

It was almost perfect before and now its perfect.

Andrew_Xavier

Same could be easily said for the ps1-ps2 upgrade, which again, begs to ask why one of the points of insult towards the ps3 is they didn't change the controller enough, which is a very odd insult, the answer is of course "why fix what ain't broken, they were going to, people wanted what's comfortable, so, they went with it, Sony listens to their fanbase"

No the difference was that they made the wrong changes, they knew that they had to fix the controller especially for FPS's, but they couldn't so they came back to point A.

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#20 kokoriman
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i think you could be right...it's almost as if it was meant for an ancient civilisation omg
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#21 Andrew_Xavier
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[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"][QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"]

It was almost perfect before and now its perfect.

Flexmaster_365

Same could be easily said for the ps1-ps2 upgrade, which again, begs to ask why one of the points of insult towards the ps3 is they didn't change the controller enough, which is a very odd insult, the answer is of course "why fix what ain't broken, they were going to, people wanted what's comfortable, so, they went with it, Sony listens to their fanbase"

No the difference was that they made the wrong changes, they knew that they had to fix the controller especially for FPS's, but they couldn't so they came back to point A.

I still don't know who's hands are too big for the ps3 controller, I'm 6'4, and it fits mine fine, not sure about the FPS issues, I don't like the FPS genre.

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#23 Forensic-Klown
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[QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

Sony should have redesigned it for the PS3 and not use the same controller for 3 generations.

Andrew_Xavier

I always read that, but, xbox fanatics tell me, how is:

Xbox

All that different from:

Xbox Controller

I know, there are trigger controls that replaced the black/white and the start/select was moved, but, overall, is it *really* different enough from the old one to be mocking everything sony does controller wise?

Shape, button placements, trigger height..is different. the dual shock 3/sixaxis is about identical with only the triggers being, well triggers this time.

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#24 bleehum
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Same can be said for someone who is used to the dualshock controller trying to play with the 360. I have a PS3, and play skate on it. One day I went to my friends house to play skate on his 360, and of course the controller felt weird and I couldn't hardly do the same tricks I could with the dualshock because the placement of the analog sticks just felt weird.
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#25 trasherhead
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after using it for over 10 years it has shaped my hands to fit it perfectly :P
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#26 Andrew_Xavier
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[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"][QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

Sony should have redesigned it for the PS3 and not use the same controller for 3 generations.

Forensic-Klown

I always read that, but, xbox fanatics tell me, how is:

Xbox

All that different from:

Xbox Controller

I know, there are trigger controls that replaced the black/white and the start/select was moved, but, overall, is it *really* different enough from the old one to be mocking everything sony does controller wise?

Shape, button placements, trigger height..is different. the dual shock 3/sixaxis is about identical with only the triggers being, well triggers this time.

Slightly different, but, the DS3 is almost identical to the ps2 controller, not the ps1, they changed the 2nd triggers, and added solid motion controls, the ds3 adds much needed weight and a more "stable" feeling, like the 360 controller has, keep in mind, they were going different (boomerang) and people FREAKED, people wanted a similar controller to the ps2, I can say, having had all 3 systems last gen, I prefered the ps2 controller, gc was too small, xbox controller was okay...this gen, I prefer the ps3 controller, the 360 controller is okay, the ps3 controller is more comfortable when playing the types of games I do.

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#27 Flexmaster_365
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The PS3 controller is just far too inaccurate, with the 360 controlelr you can easily aim at peoples heads.

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#28 akif22
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well, sony do use monkeys to test their products .. and they were fine with it, so sony thought the design was good
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#29 killerfist
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[QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"][QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"][QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

Sony should have redesigned it for the PS3 and not use the same controller for 3 generations.

Andrew_Xavier

I always read that, but, xbox fanatics tell me, how is:

Xbox

All that different from:

Xbox Controller

I know, there are trigger controls that replaced the black/white and the start/select was moved, but, overall, is it *really* different enough from the old one to be mocking everything sony does controller wise?

Shape, button placements, trigger height..is different. the dual shock 3/sixaxis is about identical with only the triggers being, well triggers this time.

Slightly different, but, the DS3 is almost identical to the ps2 controller, not the ps1, they changed the 2nd triggers, and added solid motion controls, the ds3 adds much needed weight and a more "stable" feeling, like the 360 controller has, keep in mind, they were going different (boomerang) and people FREAKED, people wanted a similar controller to the ps2, I can say, having had all 3 systems last gen, I prefered the ps2 controller, gc was too small, xbox controller was okay...this gen, I prefer the ps3 controller, the 360 controller is okay, the ps3 controller is more comfortable when playing the types of games I do.

yea well in the end it comes down to preferences and getting used to. for me the dual shocks always felt akward in certain games.
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#30 Andrew_Xavier
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well, sony do use monkeys to test their products .. and they were fine with it, so sony thought the design was goodakif22

Monkeys have huge hands...he was saying the controller was too small...

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#31 -Holtz-
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TBH!.... in my opinion the xbox and ps controlers are VERY Similar any way, four face buttons, two analogue sticks, (xbox has an ofset one) and now the xbox has the same shoulder buttons as the P.S pretty much, just implimented better triggers realy,

Dont you think their both very similar any way?

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#32 killerfist
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after using it for over 10 years it has shaped my hands to fit it perfectly :Ptrasherhead
lol I give everyone a tip. grab your controller and handle it with near freezing temperatures.(fridge, winter cold). just before getting frostbite on your hands go back inside. that way your hands will be shaped perfectly around the contoller:)
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#33 hamidious
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You're not supposed to sleep on it :|
I love the dualshock and have no problems with it:)Lto_thaG
LOL, anyway, it's much better than the 360 controller in my opinion + 360 Dpad is stupid.
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#34 xgraderx
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It was designed for blu ray not playing games with,silly cows.
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#35 killerfist
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It was designed for blu ray not playing games with,silly cows.xgraderx
lol really? well in that case its perfect!
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#36 hamidious
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Dualshock controller is pretty bad, but the PC is worse. They don't even get controllers same with the Wiimote hahaahhahahaah what a gimmick.112505
This guy cracks me up, I have never seen him posting anything serious. What would be more funny though is if he WAS serious.
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#37 Flexmaster_365
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[QUOTE="112505"]Dualshock controller is pretty bad, but the PC is worse. They don't even get controllers same with the Wiimote hahaahhahahaah what a gimmick.hamidious
This guy cracks me up, I have never seen him posting anything serious. What would be more funny though is if he WAS serious.

He is more than serious, he's right.

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#38 killerfist
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[QUOTE="hamidious"][QUOTE="112505"]Dualshock controller is pretty bad, but the PC is worse. They don't even get controllers same with the Wiimote hahaahhahahaah what a gimmick.Flexmaster_365

This guy cracks me up, I have never seen him posting anything serious. What would be more funny though is if he WAS serious.

He is more than serious, he's right.

:lol:
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#39 hamidious
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well, sony do use monkeys to test their products .. and they were fine with it, so sony thought the design was goodakif22
If anything, I think Microsoft has a team of monkey testers. Given how big the 360 controller is and the RROD.
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[QUOTE="112505"]Dualshock controller is pretty bad, but the PC is worse. They don't even get controllers same with the Wiimote hahaahhahahaah what a gimmick.hamidious
This guy cracks me up, I have never seen him posting anything serious. What would be more funny though is if he WAS serious.

PC controllers are only good for looking up P@rN sites,not for playing games with,silly hermit.
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#41 jonnyt61
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I personally have found both of the Xbox controllers difficult to use. I never had a problem with any of Nintendo or Sony's controllers. I've always felt the most comfortable with a Dual Shock, just feels right.

Probably one of the rare few, I suppose...

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#42 killerfist
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[QUOTE="hamidious"][QUOTE="112505"]Dualshock controller is pretty bad, but the PC is worse. They don't even get controllers same with the Wiimote hahaahhahahaah what a gimmick.xgraderx
This guy cracks me up, I have never seen him posting anything serious. What would be more funny though is if he WAS serious.

PC controllers are only good for looking up P@rN sites,not for playing games with,silly hermit.

lmao! seriously tho. PC contolls are best with RTS, FPS and RPG games. everything else sucks imo

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Amen brotha, preach. That thing was never comftorable and it sucks for FPS games.Flexmaster_365

any controler sux for any shooter, mouse owns them anyday in anygame. really the only significant difference between the dual shock and x360 controller is the 360 has better triggers and some people prefer the stick placement while other like the dual shock stick arangement better

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#44 Flexmaster_365
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[QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"]Amen brotha, preach. That thing was never comftorable and it sucks for FPS games.imprezawrx500

any controler sux for any shooter, mouse owns them anyday in anygame. really the only significant difference between the dual shock and x360 controller is the 360 has better triggers and some people prefer the stick placement while other like the dual shock stick arangement better

Well yeah but most of us dont want to spend $3000 on PC's so the 360 is by far the next best option for FPS games.

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[QUOTE="112505"]Dualshock controller is pretty bad, but the PC is worse. They don't even get controllers same with the Wiimote hahaahhahahaah what a gimmick.hamidious
This guy cracks me up, I have never seen him posting anything serious. What would be more funny though is if he WAS serious.

Is the username 112505 like a date or something?

Anyway the only controller that I can ever remember having a hard time getting used to was the original Xbox controller. The big duke or whatever it was called.

It is kind of interesting though that what the dualshock is right now was made mid generation on the original PlayStation after the Nintendo 64's joystick was standard. I'm sure everyone remembers this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Playstation_Controller.jpg

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#46 gtawoof
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I've never had a problem with the Dualshock controller, its great, and I own fools in COD4 so I dont know what people are talking about its bad for FPS.
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#47 thrones
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Are your hands like...to small? Because DualShock fits my hands perfectly, and I can easily reach the back triggers in games like Motorstorm.
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#48 thrones
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[QUOTE="xgraderx"][QUOTE="hamidious"][QUOTE="112505"]Dualshock controller is pretty bad, but the PC is worse. They don't even get controllers same with the Wiimote hahaahhahahaah what a gimmick.killerfist

This guy cracks me up, I have never seen him posting anything serious. What would be more funny though is if he WAS serious.

PC controllers are only good for looking up P@rN sites,not for playing games with,silly hermit.

lmao! seriously tho. PC contolls are best with RTS, FPS and RPG games. everything else sucks imo

Good thing you can attach controllers to PCs? :P

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#49 girlpowerz
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The PS3 controller is just far too inaccurate, with the 360 controlelr you can easily aim at peoples heads.

Flexmaster_365

Inaccurate...how? I find the PS3 controller to be a really good controller.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

That's just a ridiculous fanboyish statement.

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#50 jtickner
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I personally prefer the Dual Shock over the original Xbox mini and especially the 360 controllers. I prefer the Xbox mini controllers over the 360 ones, there is something about them. They just don't feel right. Stick placement is fine on the Dual Shock, I don't see why people winge about it.

Xbox fanboys and fans of the controller are pretty quick to have a go at Sony fans about the boomerang and how shoddy they all think the Dual Shock is, but are pretty quick to forget this abomination.
Original Xbox Controller

*Actual Size*