Was the dual shock designed for Non-humans?

I personally prefer the Dual Shock over the original Xbox mini and especially the 360 controllers. I prefer the Xbox mini controllers over the 360 ones, there is something about them. They just don't feel right. Stick placement is fine on the Dual Shock, I don't see why people winge about it.

Xbox fanboys and fans of the controller are pretty quick to have a go at Sony fans about the boomerang and how shoddy they all think the Dual Shock is, but are pretty quick to forget this abomination.

*Actual Size*jtickner

Yeah thats right you need a mini...

The thing is so awkward, like sleeping on rocks covered with nails.

Its unnatural and doesn't fit your hands correctly.

It only feels decent if you use the 1 and 1 buttons, if triggers are used...thats where things feel bad, expecially shooters that use the triggers for fire.

I guess the blame should be the small handles.

for the majority of other titles its works well, with the 2 and 2 buttons only used for certain things. those things need to be placed higher about the same hight as the 1 1, buttons...to feel better.

Sony should have redesigned it for the PS3 and not use the same controller for 3 generations.

I actually think the boomarang design would have felt great, too bad sony was forced to change it..due to the MANY complaints.

Forensic-Klown

[QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

The thing is so awkward, like sleeping on rocks covered with nails.

Its unnatural and doesn't fit your hands correctly.

It only feels decent if you use the 1 and 1 buttons, if triggers are used...thats where things feel bad, expecially shooters that use the triggers for fire.

I guess the blame should be the small handles.

for the majority of other titles its works well, with the 2 and 2 buttons only used for certain things. those things need to be placed higher about the same hight as the 1 1, buttons...to feel better.

Sony should have redesigned it for the PS3 and not use the same controller for 3 generations.

I actually think the boomarang design would have felt great, too bad sony was forced to change it..due to the MANY complaints.

skektek

lol

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I personally prefer the Dual Shock over the original Xbox mini and especially the 360 controllers. I prefer the Xbox mini controllers over the 360 ones, there is something about them. They just don't feel right. Stick placement is fine on the Dual Shock, I don't see why people winge about it.

Xbox fanboys and fans of the controller are pretty quick to have a go at Sony fans about the boomerang and how shoddy they all think the Dual Shock is, but are pretty quick to forget this abomination.

*Actual Size*jtickner

LMFAO@ that pic! my friend has that controller lol worst controller ever. thank god I purchased my xbox 6 months after launch with the brand new S controller:)

[QUOTE="jtickner"]

I personally prefer the Dual Shock over the original Xbox mini and especially the 360 controllers. I prefer the Xbox mini controllers over the 360 ones, there is something about them. They just don't feel right. Stick placement is fine on the Dual Shock, I don't see why people winge about it.

Xbox fanboys and fans of the controller are pretty quick to have a go at Sony fans about the boomerang and how shoddy they all think the Dual Shock is, but are pretty quick to forget this abomination.

*Actual Size*killerfist

LMFAO@ that pic! my friend has that controller lol worst controller ever. thank god I purchased my xbox 6 months after launch with the brand new S controller:)

me too. i liked the xbox-s controller.it was great

I think the SIXAXIS is the best controller out there. The triggers are awkward as hell, but i got these add-ons for the triggers which make them curve upwards like the 360's. The controller should have come standard with those.SSJ_Nega

Haha you just said the controller is only good when you turn it into more like the 360 controller. Self Owned.

The way the sticks are placed just doesn't feel right. The most comfy one this gen is the 360 controller. But one of the best controllers ever is this one:

Let me explain why: despite the fact that ALOT of people hate this controller because they just simply haven't tried it OR becasue it is too big - this controller is actually near perfect. You wanna know why? It's because this controller just lays there naturally, perfectly in your hands. You don't have to actually have a grip on the thing. It just lays there. There are alot of people that don't like it, but that's their problem, not mine. This controller just fits perfectly in your hands. No cramps, no need to stretch to reach buttons, just... relax.

And no, I don't have monstrous hands. :)

I think the SIXAXIS is the best controller out there. The triggers are awkward as hell, but i got these add-ons for the triggers which make them curve upwards like the 360's. The controller should have come standard with those.SSJ_Nega

You mean these?

[QUOTE="SSJ_Nega"]I think the SIXAXIS is the best controller out there. The triggers are awkward as hell, but i got these add-ons for the triggers which make them curve upwards like the 360's. The controller should have come standard with those.Flexmaster_365

Haha you just said the controller is only good when you turn it into more like the 360 controller. Self Owned.

Don't be an idiot.

The triggers are the only thing i think is wrong with the SIXAXIS. The controller is still the most comfortable one out ther IMO. The 360 triggers are far superior to the SIXAXIS triggers, but the controller itself isn't as comfortable, so i find that by taking the 360 triggers and adding them to the SIXAXIS only makes it better.

I still think the SIXAXIS without the trigger add-ons is better than the 360 controller, which just happens to be my second favourite controller.

[QUOTE="SSJ_Nega"]I think the SIXAXIS is the best controller out there. The triggers are awkward as hell, but i got these add-ons for the triggers which make them curve upwards like the 360's. The controller should have come standard with those.wapahala

You mean these?

It looks ugly as hell... but it's better than the default!

Yep! Those are the ones. I got them with some Playstation magazine i bought last month.

They make the triggers far easier to use.

Its probably the best controller for fighting games and everything thats not a FPS.

Its great enough to have lasted this long. Complaining about it at this point is truly useless.

[QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"]

[QUOTE="SSJ_Nega"]I think the SIXAXIS is the best controller out there. The triggers are awkward as hell, but i got these add-ons for the triggers which make them curve upwards like the 360's. The controller should have come standard with those.SSJ_Nega

Haha you just said the controller is only good when you turn it into more like the 360 controller. Self Owned.

Don't be an idiot.

The triggers are the only thing i think is wrong with the SIXAXIS. The controller is still the most comfortable one out ther IMO. The 360 triggers are far superior to the SIXAXIS triggers, but the controller itself isn't as comfortable, so i find that by taking the 360 triggers and adding them to the SIXAXIS only makes it better.

I still think the SIXAXIS without the trigger add-ons is better than the 360 controller, which just happens to be my second favourite controller.

All the controllers are comftorable, functionality is what matters and the 360 controller kills the Sixaxis, dualshock and Boomerange and whatever other crazy thing Sony tries.

it's a freakin japanese console

of course it is designed with japanese people in mind

that in mind, minus the stupid r2/l2 triggers, the dualshock 3 is far superior to the 360 controllers, except maybe for fps's.

it's a freakin japanese console

of course it is designed with japanese people in mind

that in mind, minus the stupid r2/l2 triggers, the dualshock 3 is far superior to the 360 controllers, except maybe for fps's.

mistervengeance

That was my point

The way the sticks are placed just doesn't feel right. The most comfy one this gen is the 360 controller. But one of the best controllers ever is this one:

Let me explain why: despite the fact that ALOT of people hate this controller because they just simply haven't tried it OR becasue it is too big - this controller is actually near perfect. You wanna know why? It's because this controller just lays there naturally, perfectly in your hands. You don't have to actually have a grip on the thing. It just lays there. There are alot of people that don't like it, but that's their problem, not mine. This controller just fits perfectly in your hands. No cramps, no need to stretch to reach buttons, just... relax.

And no, I don't have monstrous hands. :)

wapahala

This control is far from near pefect. It may just sit there, so does my sixaxis, only time I really need to grip it is if I'm using the sixaxis function. There is plenty of things wrong with the original Xbox controller such as;
Size
Spastic diagonal layout for the A,B,X and Y buttons
Black and White buttons are in the stupidiest spot ever. Black and White have to be 2 of the stupidest buttons ever actually, 4 shoulder buttons ftw.
D-Pad reminds of a Sega one and is rank
Size
Over-sized Xbox logo in the middle.. We get the point, I know what console I'm playing.
Size
Looks like a Dreamcast controller
Size
Memory card and expansion bay slots in the controller.. Lame.
Overall design in general.

The only think that bugs me about the DS controller is the analog placement. How many games still use a D-Pad as their main interface? AllI can think about is fighters.Shazenab

That may be true about the fighters. But what you're saying about the D-Pad being to left is implying that just because it's further left people assume it's the main source of control? I think most people these days jump into the game with both thumbs on the sticks no matter what controller they pick up.. It's like gaming instinct.

The way the sticks are placed just doesn't feel right. The most comfy one this gen is the 360 controller. But one of the best controllers ever is this one:

Let me explain why: despite the fact that ALOT of people hate this controller because they just simply haven't tried it OR becasue it is too big - this controller is actually near perfect. You wanna know why? It's because this controller just lays there naturally, perfectly in your hands. You don't have to actually have a grip on the thing. It just lays there. There are alot of people that don't like it, but that's their problem, not mine. This controller just fits perfectly in your hands. No cramps, no need to stretch to reach buttons, just... relax.

And no, I don't have monstrous hands. :)

wapahala

i agree with you man.i dunno about the best controller.but it is one of the best controllers for an fps.your right.no need to hold it a particular way......or adjust the way you hold it.........you only have to let it lay in yer hands and use the sticks(love the placement).......though i prefer the xbox-s controller a bit more because of the button layout. plus triggers on these babies are great.great for fps and racing games

Always liked the dual shock controller, but I think you're right in that SONY should have designed a NEW more comfortable controller...

[QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"]It was almost perfect before and now its perfect.-Roger-Wilco-

and the face buttons, way too small and bumpy.

N64 was pretty good in its time aswell. (imho)

N64 was pretty good in its time aswell. (imho)

Marcje124

I agree.

I think the N64 controller was so cool! I enjoyed using it and although it's shape is a little odd, i think it's a great controller.

Dualshock is still the best controller ever, imo. The 360 controller takes a close second, but for me, the Dualshock remains more comfortable.

I just got the Dualshock 3 today. The only problem w/ it is that it uses the Sixaxis' L2 and R2 buttons, which are inferior to the PS2 Dualshock's ones.

fuzzysquash

I only find the Dual Shock/SIXAXIS comfortable when I use the D-Pad. When I use the sticks, I find either controller to be terribly uncomfortable.

Dualshock is still the best controller ever, imo. The 360 controller takes a close second, but for me, the Dualshock remains more comfortable.

I just got the Dualshock 3 today. The only problem w/ it is that it uses the Sixaxis' L2 and R2 buttons, which are inferior to the PS2 Dualshock's ones.

fuzzysquash

Yes, I feel the same way. I also think the weight is perfect. Not so light like the I-could-snap-this-controller-with-one-hand kind of feeling, such as the Sixaxis.

DS3 is a terrible design IMO.

symmetrical analog makes ZERO sense, the trigger buttons are poorly placed on an angle.

i have no idea why Sony didn't put more effort in to designing a new better controller, kinda wish they actually released the boomerang controller just so we'd have something new and better.

oh well, there are easy mods out there to put your DS3 into a 360 controller if you really want a more comfortable experience.

DS3 is a terrible design IMO.

symmetrical analog makes ZERO sense, the trigger buttons are poorly placed on an angle.

i have no idea why Sony didn't put more effort in to designing a new better controller, kinda wish they actually released the boomerang controller just so we'd have something new and better.

oh well, there are easy mods out there to put your DS3 into a 360 controller if you really want a more comfortable experience.

3picuri3

What..? Symmetrical analog makes perfect sense to me :|

my god it's awful. but i could be worse...

MUCH worse

my god it's awful. but i could be worse...

MUCH worse

crunchUK

this is worse, it has more buttons!

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

DS3 is a terrible design IMO.

symmetrical analog makes ZERO sense, the trigger buttons are poorly placed on an angle.

i have no idea why Sony didn't put more effort in to designing a new better controller, kinda wish they actually released the boomerang controller just so we'd have something new and better.

oh well, there are easy mods out there to put your DS3 into a 360 controller if you really want a more comfortable experience.

thrones

What..? Symmetrical analog makes perfect sense to me :|

it might make perfect sense to you but it's ergonomically atrocious. the body doesn't like having both thumbs extended inwards at a 45 degree angle for hours on end.

it's been proven time and time again that asymmetrical control schemes are more comfortable on the users hand given long term use. this is why pretty much every military control device for drones, et al employ asymmetrical design.

some people may prefer it because they're used to it, but they're more prone to repetitive stress injuries associated with habitual gaming ;) they'll all end up with crippled fingers like Groundskeeper Willy's space invader injuries.

even engineers use the 360 controller for unmanned projects.. not sure if anyone watched the military sponsored unmanned vehicle competitions - but a great deal of the competitors used 360 controllers ;) not a single DS to be seen.

it's also been shown that asymmetric analog design allows for greater precision movements. the brain can sometimes get things mixed up when both thumbs are working at opposite equal angles - having things slightly off allows for greater differentiation of control and precision movement.. there was a great article on this in engadget a while ago I think.. i'll see if i can track it down.

haven't found it yet - but here's a stanford white paper on reasons asymmetrical controls are better for delayed telerobotics:

http://ijr.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/24/8/631

The Xbox controller evolved to be more like the Dualshock in layout and some of you are saying the Dualshock is bad? If it was, it wouldn't have gotten copied now would it have? The only difference is the layout of the sticks. That's the only thing that stayed the same from the original Xbox controller. The 360 controller is pretty much like the Dualshock now. LT, RT buttons are where the L1, R1 buttons are. LB, RB are in place of the L2, R2. Different buttons, same layout. Thank Dualshock for the 360 controller's layout.

The Xbox controller evolved to be more like the Dualshock in layout and some of you are saying the Dualshock is bad? If it was, it wouldn't have gotten copied now would it have? The only difference is the layout of the sticks.

sainraja

lol. nice try. 360 controller, and the original xbox controller are the pretty freaking far from any sort of 'copy'.. gimme a break.

[QUOTE="sainraja"]

The Xbox controller evolved to be more like the Dualshock in layout and some of you are saying the Dualshock is bad? If it was, it wouldn't have gotten copied now would it have? The only difference is the layout of the sticks.

3picuri3

lol. nice try. 360 controller, and the original xbox controller are the pretty freaking far from any sort of 'copy'.. gimme a break.

Do I need to show you a diagram?

I think you know what both controllers look like. Look at what's different between the original Xbox controller and the 360 and you'll notice the similarity between the Dualshock and 360 controller. If you don't, you're in denial.

And I wasn't saying the original Xbox controller was a copy of the Dualshock. I am saying the 360 controller is. It evolved to be more like the Dualshock except for the sticks.

The dual shock was desingned for mediocre shooters hence why so many of them are on the sony brand of console :lol:

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