We don't know yet, the PSP2 MIGHT be better than the 3DS

Okay, before firing those bazookas on me, hear me out please. I'm not saying the PSP2 WILL be better than the 3DS, and neither am I implying that the PSP is better than the DS... coz it's not. I'm just looking into all the possibilities here.

Let's look back around fifteen years into the past or so. Nintendo was king of the console market, conclusively beating all competition, triumphing over every contemporary piece of hardware one could think of. With the NES and the SNES, Nintendo had climbed to the top, and no one could even think of a company that would ever even come close to topping Nintendo (though people might say Sega was good, it had little chances of beating Nintendo). But then came the PlayStation, and it ended Nintendo's reign over the console market.

And look at this: Nintendo has been the king of the handheld market for as long as our memories can go back, and no one has ever really given Nintendo any competition. With the GB, GBA and DS, Nintendo have become the undisputable handheld champs, and apparently, there is no way in hell anybody will ever be able to beat a handheld as powerful, innovative, and as great as the 3DS. But just think for a second- this is Sony, and they never really give up. And while it seems completely impossible to image, they might actually learn from their mistakes. We don't even have an inkling of what the PSP2 is about. Let's give them a chance. And the law of averages has to catch up. Nintendo can;t remain the undisputed handheld champs forever (though I don't really have a problem with that).

I mean, look at it this way: when the DS and the PSP were about to be released, nobody was ready to give the DS a chance, everybody was trashing it as a sucky handheld in comparision to the PSP, everyone was saying the PSP will turn out to be spectacular, and that it will end Ninendo's handheld supremacy, thus spelling utter doom for them. The same thing is happening now, only people are not ready to give the PSP2 a chance, and they think the 3DS will walk all over it.

Let's wait and watch, people, we might actually have a handheld winner next gen that has not been developed by Nintendo.

If the PSP2 doesn't launch with 3 months of the 3DS it is screwed period.

If the PSP2 doesn't launch with 3 months of the 3DS it is screwed period.

ActicEdge

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

If the PSP2 doesn't launch with 3 months of the 3DS it is screwed period.

mystervj

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

If the PSP2 doesn't launch with 3 months of the 3DS it is screwed period.

mystervj

because as of now the 3DS support is huge and we know nothing of the PSP2. Once the 3DS starts barreling down there isn't a chance the PSP2 will gather up enough support to go head to head.

PSP2 will not be out for ages and the 3DS will have the entire market by then... not just the PSP market but the DS market will have shifted to the 3DS so no way can it beat the 3DS but it will not fail, the better graphics and larger single screen should mean the psp2 will have graphics advantage which seems to be all the Xbox and PS3 fanboys care about... SO now looking back it could have a small chance of beating the 3DS but fairly unlikely.

[QUOTE="mystervj"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

If the PSP2 doesn't launch with 3 months of the 3DS it is screwed period.

khoofia_pika

I really don't think the PSP2 will ever beat the 3DS. Nintendo has their section of the market well-covered and isn't moving, so Sony needs to establish their niche and do what Nintendon't (sorry), that being stuff like online, trophies, etc., and totally go towards the console experience.

[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="mystervj"] Why would PSP2 need to be released so soon for it to be not screwed. mystervj

In the case of this war, the system that sells less will have less good games becausae the 3DS has already basically confirmed it will have the sales of DS with more serious support.

I really don't think the PSP2 will ever beat the 3DS. Nintendo has their section of the market well-covered and isn't moving, so Sony needs to establish their niche and do what Nintendon't (sorry), that being stuff like online, trophies, etc., and totally go towards the console experience.

Cherokee_Jack

Okay, before firing those bazookas on me, hear me out please. I'm not saying the PSP2 WILL be better than the 3DS, and neither am I implying that the PSP is better than the DS... coz it's not. I'm just looking into all the possibilities here.

Let's look back around fifteen years into the past or so. Nintendo was king of the console market, conclusively beating all competition, triumphing over every contemporary piece of hardware one could think of. With the NES and the SNES, Nintendo had climbed to the top, and no one could even think of a company that would ever even come close to topping Nintendo (though people might say Sega was good, it had little chances of beating Nintendo). But then came the PlayStation, and it ended Nintendo's reign over the console market.

And look at this: Nintendo has been the king of the handheld market for as long as our memories can go back, and no one has ever really given Nintendo any competition. With the GB, GBA and DS, Nintendo have become the undisputable handheld champs, and apparently, there is no way in hell anybody will ever be able to beat a handheld as powerful, innovative, and as great as the 3DS. But just think for a second- this is Sony, and they never really give up. And while it seems completely impossible to image, they might actually learn from their mistakes. We don't even have an inkling of what the PSP2 is about. Let's give them a chance. And the law of averages has to catch up. Nintendo can;t remain the undisputed handheld champs forever (though I don't really have a problem with that).

I mean, look at it this way: when the DS and the PSP were about to be released, nobody was ready to give the DS a chance, everybody was trashing it as a sucky handheld in comparision to the PSP, everyone was saying the PSP will turn out to be spectacular, and that it will end Ninendo's handheld supremacy, thus spelling utter doom for them. The same thing is happening now, only people are not ready to give the PSP2 a chance, and they think the 3DS will walk all over it.

Let's wait and watch, people, we might actually have a handheld winner next gen that has not been developed by Nintendo.

khoofia_pika

[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]

Okay, before firing those bazookas on me, hear me out please. I'm not saying the PSP2 WILL be better than the 3DS, and neither am I implying that the PSP is better than the DS... coz it's not. I'm just looking into all the possibilities here.

Let's look back around fifteen years into the past or so. Nintendo was king of the console market, conclusively beating all competition, triumphing over every contemporary piece of hardware one could think of. With the NES and the SNES, Nintendo had climbed to the top, and no one could even think of a company that would ever even come close to topping Nintendo (though people might say Sega was good, it had little chances of beating Nintendo). But then came the PlayStation, and it ended Nintendo's reign over the console market.

And look at this: Nintendo has been the king of the handheld market for as long as our memories can go back, and no one has ever really given Nintendo any competition. With the GB, GBA and DS, Nintendo have become the undisputable handheld champs, and apparently, there is no way in hell anybody will ever be able to beat a handheld as powerful, innovative, and as great as the 3DS. But just think for a second- this is Sony, and they never really give up. And while it seems completely impossible to image, they might actually learn from their mistakes. We don't even have an inkling of what the PSP2 is about. Let's give them a chance. And the law of averages has to catch up. Nintendo can;t remain the undisputed handheld champs forever (though I don't really have a problem with that).

I mean, look at it this way: when the DS and the PSP were about to be released, nobody was ready to give the DS a chance, everybody was trashing it as a sucky handheld in comparision to the PSP, everyone was saying the PSP will turn out to be spectacular, and that it will end Ninendo's handheld supremacy, thus spelling utter doom for them. The same thing is happening now, only people are not ready to give the PSP2 a chance, and they think the 3DS will walk all over it.

Let's wait and watch, people, we might actually have a handheld winner next gen that has not been developed by Nintendo.

After_Math

[QUOTE="After_Math"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]

Okay, before firing those bazookas on me, hear me out please. I'm not saying the PSP2 WILL be better than the 3DS, and neither am I implying that the PSP is better than the DS... coz it's not. I'm just looking into all the possibilities here.

Let's look back around fifteen years into the past or so. Nintendo was king of the console market, conclusively beating all competition, triumphing over every contemporary piece of hardware one could think of. With the NES and the SNES, Nintendo had climbed to the top, and no one could even think of a company that would ever even come close to topping Nintendo (though people might say Sega was good, it had little chances of beating Nintendo). But then came the PlayStation, and it ended Nintendo's reign over the console market.

And look at this: Nintendo has been the king of the handheld market for as long as our memories can go back, and no one has ever really given Nintendo any competition. With the GB, GBA and DS, Nintendo have become the undisputable handheld champs, and apparently, there is no way in hell anybody will ever be able to beat a handheld as powerful, innovative, and as great as the 3DS. But just think for a second- this is Sony, and they never really give up. And while it seems completely impossible to image, they might actually learn from their mistakes. We don't even have an inkling of what the PSP2 is about. Let's give them a chance. And the law of averages has to catch up. Nintendo can;t remain the undisputed handheld champs forever (though I don't really have a problem with that).

I mean, look at it this way: when the DS and the PSP were about to be released, nobody was ready to give the DS a chance, everybody was trashing it as a sucky handheld in comparision to the PSP, everyone was saying the PSP will turn out to be spectacular, and that it will end Ninendo's handheld supremacy, thus spelling utter doom for them. The same thing is happening now, only people are not ready to give the PSP2 a chance, and they think the 3DS will walk all over it.

Let's wait and watch, people, we might actually have a handheld winner next gen that has not been developed by Nintendo.

khoofia_pika

In terms of selling your hardware no one is ever going to beat Nintendo at that in the handheld realm because they own 90% of all the strongest handheld franchises.

[QUOTE="mystervj"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"] It would be PSP vs DS all over again. Which means PSP2 = Screwed.khoofia_pika

[QUOTE="mystervj"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"] The PSP is screwed because it is behind the DS by more than 70 million units. Systems don't sell half as much as that lag in a lifetime. That is pretty shameful, so much so, that Sony should think of living under a rock. The PS3 is not screwed because it's behind the 360 by only a mere 3 million units, and is briding the gap every year.khoofia_pika

Its not the hardware that makes people think the PSP is a failure, it sold tons, its the lack of software sales.

[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="mystervj"] The PSP by itself is a financial success, "only" selling 60 million PSPs isn't shameful by any means. PSP is indeed a dying platform, but sales doesn't equate to quality, other wise Wii wouldn't be bashed so often on SW. PSP2 could potentially be a better product than 3DS regardless of how well each platform sells, and release timing doesn't really factor into this all that much.ActicEdge

Its not the hardware that makes people think the PSP is a failure, it sold tons, its the lack of software sales.

I agree with the title. It might... but since we don't even know if there really IS a PSP2, it's not better than the 3DS. /thread.Desmonic

This.

The only thing Sony can do is rip off the 3DS, because another more powerful PSP isn't going to be enough.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"] Individually, it is a great success, but in comparision to its competition...? No.khoofia_pika

Its not the hardware that makes people think the PSP is a failure, it sold tons, its the lack of software sales.

No no, its just the software sales, the PSP has good games and nothing is perfect but it can't sell software which makes it pretty damn useless for publishers to make money off of.

The only thing Sony can do is rip off the 3DS, because another more powerful PSP isn't going to be enough.

Supabul

It could be, but I think Sony needs to understand that they need to price it effectively.

[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Its not the hardware that makes people think the PSP is a failure, it sold tons, its the lack of software sales.

ActicEdge

No no, its just the software sales, the PSP has good games and nothing is perfect but it can't sell software which makes it pretty damn useless for publishers to make money off of.

They could be announcing the PSP2 at Gamescom or TGS. I'd expect it at one of those two events I don't think Sony would want to wait any longer.Zero5000X

the psp2 lineup wont be even close to matching the 3DS

[QUOTE="mystervj"]So basically the TC made this thread to bash a platform that hasn't even been announced, :lol: This isn't surprising since TC's obviously anti-Sony. Anyways, no handheld systems has ever held any interest to me, but if I were to get one, it won't be the 3DS.khoofia_pika

Realize who you're responding too.

Realize who you're responding too.

ActicEdge

Yeah about ur OP, I'm pretty sure there was more hype on DS than PSP, why would there be any hype for PSP when Sony never actually made a handheld console before, unless you count the walkman.mystervj

The only way I see the PSP2 selling better than the 3DS is if the 3DS fails.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Realize who you're responding too.

khoofia_pika

Yeah about ur OP, I'm pretty sure there was more hype on DS than PSP, why would there be any hype for PSP when Sony never actually made a handheld console before, unless you count the walkman.mystervj

Cuz claiming PSP2 is screwed b4 it isn't even announced is certainly very sensible and intelligible. It's not gona beat 3DS in sales, but ur OP is about quality of the product.mystervj

[QUOTE="mystervj"]Cuz claiming PSP2 is screwed b4 it isn't even announced is certainly very sensible and intelligible. It's not gona beat 3DS in sales, but ur OP is about quality of the product.khoofia_pika

But that's it, the PSP2 isn't going to be better than the 3DS if it launches later, once the 3DS establishes sales dominance there isn't going to be much of a reason to develop on the PSP2.

[QUOTE="mystervj"]Cuz claiming PSP2 is screwed b4 it isn't even announced is certainly very sensible and intelligible. It's not gona beat 3DS in sales, but ur OP is about quality of the product.khoofia_pika

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[QUOTE="mystervj"]Cuz claiming PSP2 is screwed b4 it isn't even announced is certainly very sensible and intelligible. It's not gona beat 3DS in sales, but ur OP is about quality of the product.ActicEdge

But that's it, the PSP2 isn't going to be better than the 3DS if it launches later, once the 3DS establishes sales dominance there isn't going to be much of a reason to develop on the PSP2.

PSP2 doesn't really stand a chance.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"] I said it might be screwed if it released late. And that was just a statement I wrote OUTSIDE the OP. The OP is all "PSP2 will be great" and "PSP2 might beat the 3DS" and "give Sone a chance," just in case you haven't read it... which you haven't.

khoofia_pika

But that's it, the PSP2 isn't going to be better than the 3DS if it launches later, once the 3DS establishes sales dominance there isn't going to be much of a reason to develop on the PSP2.

[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

But that's it, the PSP2 isn't going to be better than the 3DS if it launches later, once the 3DS establishes sales dominance there isn't going to be much of a reason to develop on the PSP2.

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