We don't know yet, the PSP2 MIGHT be better than the 3DS

I think it's important to remember just how big the Sony brand was in the consumer electronic entertainment market during the ninties, as I have no doubt this played a big role in their overthrowing of Nintendo's dominance in the home console market back then. While they're not exactly a minor player today, it's apparent that the overall "power" of that brand has diminished in recent years.

Just my 2¢.

Last gen PS2 was far and wide the leader of the console industry and the Gamecube trailed in last.

This gen Nintendo is unquestionably the industry leader while the PS3 is struggling to get 2nd and hasn't been able to catch it yet.

Anything could happen, things change.

oldkingallant

You don't think that the continued selling of the ps2, ps3, and psp this gen puts Sony in a solid and comfortable second place? Interesting.

as we all know from history, the only reason sony has a chance with the psp2 is because most likely they will copy all of the features from the 3ds and release something called the psp3d. Sony really are shameless bastads heck even microsoft is innovative. You don't see them copy nintendo right out. Look at their kinect system its almost a different concept than the wii motion controls.

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Its not the hardware that makes people think the PSP is a failure, it sold tons, its the lack of software sales.

ActicEdge

No no, its just the software sales, the PSP has good games and nothing is perfect but it can't sell software which makes it pretty damn useless for publishers to make money off of.

IMO, the PSP's software support problem isn't neccessarily it doesn't have any good games, it does. but a severe lack of "portable" type games.

What I mean is this. Portable market and console market has a distinct difference. i.e console games are all about grandeur, long lasting and grandness. Portable games are "quick fun in quick spurts". PSP games problems comes from the fact that it tried to be too much as a "console game on the go". which looked good on paper, but didn't do too well in the real world. People are finding console games on the PSP eat too much batteries, takes too much time to get through (not the 10-20 minutes spurts the DS games offers), and then the fact that it only has one analogue nub really hurts the console like controls. And besides, after paying 50 for a console game, PSP is asking nearly that much for the same experience on the go.....I don't think not many people will want that. hence PSP's greatest problem

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"] Software sales, software support, the system's incapability to do anything perfectly... the PSP is a flawed system.StryderK

No no, its just the software sales, the PSP has good games and nothing is perfect but it can't sell software which makes it pretty damn useless for publishers to make money off of.

IMO, the PSP's software support problem isn't neccessarily it doesn't have any good games, it does. but a severe lack of "portable" type games.

What I mean is this. Portable market and console market has a distinct difference. i.e console games are all about grandeur, long lasting and grandness. Portable games are "quick fun in quick spurts". PSP games problems comes from the fact that it tried to be too much as a "console game on the go". which looked good on paper, but didn't do too well in the real world. People are finding console games on the PSP eat too much batteries, takes too much time to get through (not the 10-20 minutes spurts the DS games offers), and then the fact that it only has one analogue nub really hurts the console like controls. And besides, after paying 50 for a console game, PSP is asking nearly that much for the same experience on the go.....I don't think not many people will want that. hence PSP's greatest problem

imo the reason the PSP sold 60 million units was because that's the market for people who want a "console on the go". DS has games that fit that description, but the PSP is the king of "handheld home console" so to speak.

That's the main reason I think the 3DS is going to win against the PSP2, though. We have a system capable of the DS library + more, and with the graphics and analog nub it's capable of the PSP's library + more.

The 3DS is already grasping the 130 million plus users of the DS in one hand, and it's other hand is outstretched to snatch the market created by the PSP.

Still sounds like fool's optimism, but be happy that the PSP provided the first serious challenge to Nintendo's handheld market in a long time. In all honesty, I think the PSP2 could end up becoming a smartphone with Android instead to compete with the iPhone and leave Nintendo to its own market.hiphops_savior

I wouldn't entirely rule out the possibility of the PSP having smartphone capabilities. But Android? That would open the platform up to digital content from sources other than PSN... which seems like the last thing Sony would want.

[QUOTE="oldkingallant"]

Last gen PS2 was far and wide the leader of the console industry and the Gamecube trailed in last.

This gen Nintendo is unquestionably the industry leader while the PS3 is struggling to get 2nd and hasn't been able to catch it yet.

Anything could happen, things change.

You don't think that the continued selling of the ps2, ps3, and psp this gen puts Sony in a solid and comfortable second place? Interesting.

[spoiler] portable barrel rolls [/spoiler]

Its possible PSP2 might be better, but we cant really know until Sony officially reveals its next handheld..

One thing they must do is vary more the PSP's games library in order to attract people of all ages...

I dont think anyone will win against Nintendo when it comes to the handheld market, but PSP sold well and has a very large install base, so thats something sony needs to focus on.. Somehow shift current PSP owners on to their next handheld, attract new gamers and make sure PSP2 gets devs support from day 1

The system released the latest usually have the edge in technology, but has to play catch up in games.

It has a chance, who in the world expected 360 to outsell PS3 in the previous generation >>>> none! but it did.abuabed

Who expected the PS3 to be priced at US$599?

[QUOTE="abuabed"]It has a chance, who in the world expected 360 to outsell PS3 in the previous generation >>>> none! but it did.ThePlothole

Who expected the PS3 to be priced at US$599?

3DS is going to be much better. Just look at the line up!

From my point of view, the PSP is a very strong competitor against Nintendo's DS but there was this piracy trick that makes a lot of devs scared of developing titles on the PSP, if Sony wants to share a bigger part of Nintendo's market then they must ensure that PSP2 won't be hacked to hell and back.

As for the games, we don't know yet, it might have a killer or a sucker lineup once it's released, time will only tell.

Exactly. People just generally assumed that it would be priced competitively. And I'm still certain that, had it been, the PS3 would have easily outsold the 360.

technically speaking, the psp2 will most likely be better than the 3ds

but game-wise, there's no way. the 3ds arguably has one of the best sets of launch titles in the history of gaming

and now nintendo is king again with wii and ds thanks to casuals :P

While it probably won't compare in sales, there's a good chance they'll make a "better" system.

I was actually in the group adamant on the quality of the DS. The PSP looked "meh" to me then, but I got it for BBS. Luckily, it's picking up speed, but the possibility still remains, I think it's HIGHLY unlikely that the PSP2 were to beat the 3DS simply based on past endeavours.

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[QUOTE="oldkingallant"]

Last gen PS2 was far and wide the leader of the console industry and the Gamecube trailed in last.

This gen Nintendo is unquestionably the industry leader while the PS3 is struggling to get 2nd and hasn't been able to catch it yet.

Anything could happen, things change.

charizard1605

You don't think that the continued selling of the ps2, ps3, and psp this gen puts Sony in a solid and comfortable second place? Interesting.

Great, he's talking about the ps3, and Sony is thinking about all of its devices. People ignore one thing or another out of convenience, that doesn't mean they don't matter.

If there is a PSP2....will it have better hardware and features than the 3DS? Most Likely. Will it have better games than the 3DS? NOPE!

There is no Persona for Nintendo's consoles. It's another Shin Megami Tensei series, but not Persona.Kleeyook

According to the big list Nintendo released three titles in the Shin Megami Tensei series are currently in development for the 3DS. One of them being a Persona.

Last gen PS2 was far and wide the leader of the console industry and the Gamecube trailed in last.

This gen Nintendo is unquestionably the industry leader while the PS3 is struggling to get 2nd and hasn't been able to catch it yet.

Anything could happen, things change.

oldkingallant

On Topic, Coolyfett agrees with your post. The PSP 4OOO will be such a device, Changes are healthy for all systems & generations to come. Coolyfett really likes what Sony has done in the industry.

yes it needs to release soon or announced soon the 3DS team is just too strong right now i mean persona is already slated to release a version on it i heard.

then i heard that sony is making a psp phone instead of a handheld nintendo just got this handheld thing on lock its frightening.

The PSP today is not screwed, actually if anything its doing pretty well considering that it has sold more then any other competition against Nintendos portable console. Im not going to argue about the psp2 or Nintendo 3ds cuz as of right now we dont know any specs nor anything about the psp2. For all we know they may not make another psp. But the psp is anything but screwed its still selling and it has a pretty nice line up for any JRPG lover this fall.

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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

No no, its just the software sales, the PSP has good games and nothing is perfect but it can't sell software which makes it pretty damn useless for publishers to make money off of.

Raymundo_Manuel

IMO, the PSP's software support problem isn't neccessarily it doesn't have any good games, it does. but a severe lack of "portable" type games.

What I mean is this. Portable market and console market has a distinct difference. i.e console games are all about grandeur, long lasting and grandness. Portable games are "quick fun in quick spurts". PSP games problems comes from the fact that it tried to be too much as a "console game on the go". which looked good on paper, but didn't do too well in the real world. People are finding console games on the PSP eat too much batteries, takes too much time to get through (not the 10-20 minutes spurts the DS games offers), and then the fact that it only has one analogue nub really hurts the console like controls. And besides, after paying 50 for a console game, PSP is asking nearly that much for the same experience on the go.....I don't think not many people will want that. hence PSP's greatest problem

imo the reason the PSP sold 60 million units was because that's the market for people who want a "console on the go". DS has games that fit that description, but the PSP is the king of "handheld home console" so to speak.

That's the main reason I think the 3DS is going to win against the PSP2, though. We have a system capable of the DS library + more, and with the graphics and analog nub it's capable of the PSP's library + more.

The 3DS is already grasping the 130 million plus users of the DS in one hand, and it's other hand is outstretched to snatch the market created by the PSP.

The problem with that 60 million sold number though, is that IMO, at least 25-30 million PSP sold are for pirate use only. I mean, look at the software chart, except Japan, just how many PSP games broke into the top 10, or top 20 for that matter, especially in the past few years? With a 60 million sold market, you'd expect PSP games, like MGS to at least debut on the top 10...but nope! It's not there. Software sales for the PSP has been atrocious, well hardware sales are good....That is a dicotomy that contridicts everything we know. Which leads me to believe at least 35% of the people who bought the PSP do it for everything other than buy games!