Western devs are advancing the tech while Japanese devs are still behind.

Its becaues the Japanese arent graphic whores.

brennan7777

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Its becaues the Japanese arent graphic whores.

disismycomp

Its becaues the Japanese arent graphic whores.

brennan7777

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Its becaues the Japanese arent graphic whores.

Parasomniac

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Its becaues the Japanese arent graphic whores.

Parasomniac

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Its becaues the Japanese arent graphic whores.

disismycomp

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Its becaues the Japanese arent graphic whores.

disismycomp

Right. Not just the technology, but game design as well. They're too steeped in tradition to notice that the rest of the world is moving on in terms of how people play games.

They either fail to recognize, or choose to ignore the fact that people other than the Japanese play games. Of course, there are exception to this, but speaking in very general terms, I think there's at least a little truth to it.

Cool, too bad that doesn't make the games better.

Cool, too bad that doesn't make the games better.

Yandere

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Cool, too bad that doesn't make the games better.

disismycomp

No, a bad game is bad, no matter how good the technology is.

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Cool, too bad that doesn't make the games better.

Yandere

No, a bad game is bad, no matter how good the technology is.

Japanese devs are not graphics whores but they make great games with great ideas.

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[QUOTE="disismycomp"] Actually it very much does.disismycomp

No, a bad game is bad, no matter how good the technology is.

Japanese devs are not graphics whores but they make great games with great ideas.

Kashiwaba

Japanese devs are not graphics whores but they make great games with great ideas.

Kashiwaba

Im going to have to disagree , If you want to talk about them as a whole then yes but there are still Japanese companies that push the envelope.

Mainly

Team Kojima, Capcom and SquareEnix.

Capcom has tons of high quality looking titles this gen.

Japanese devs are not graphics whores but they make great games with great ideas.

Kashiwaba

Really? Devs like Capcom, Nintendo, Platinum Games, and Kojima Productions have been doing good job IMO this gen.

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[QUOTE="disismycomp"] Actually it very much does.disismycomp

No, a bad game is bad, no matter how good the technology is.

How? Better AI and/or better graphics wouldn't make a horrible gaming experience any better.

Really? Devs like Capcom and Nintendo have been doing good job IMO this gen.

Lionheart08

Nintendo? Thats pretty much impossible since they are stuck on the Wii.

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No, a bad game is bad, no matter how good the technology is.

Yandere

How? Better AI and/or better graphics wouldn't make a horrible gaming experience any better.

Of course it would.

The same crappy game with amazing AI added would make a difference...even if in the end the game is still overall crappy.

Technology rarely defines a game, but to deny the role it plays in improving video games on a whole is ridiculous.

Can there be good games with poor technology? Of course...but that's besides the point.

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Really? Devs like Capcom and Nintendo have been doing good job IMO this gen.

TheSterls

Nintendo? Thats pretty much impossible since they are stuck on the Wii.

Super Mario Galaxy looks really good for a Wii game. If we're going to talk about "tech" then games like Wii Sports Resort also have to be given props for how well Motion Control are implemented.

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No, a bad game is bad, no matter how good the technology is.

Yandere

How? Better AI and/or better graphics wouldn't make a horrible gaming experience any better.

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[QUOTE="disismycomp"] Obviously. Though a bad game with good tech is better than a bad game with old tech. New tech can and does make the game better. Origami_Kill3r

How? Better AI and/or better graphics wouldn't make a horrible gaming experience any better.

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How? Better AI and/or better graphics wouldn't make a horrible gaming experience any better.

suitmypants

[QUOTE="suitmypants"][QUOTE="Origami_Kill3r"] Depends on whats making it horrible. Some games have terrible stories but are just fun and challenging brennan7777

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[QUOTE="suitmypants"] fun and challenging because they have a good AI. A easy game that is not challenging does not have a good AI/or good puzzles (depending on what type of genre you're playing)Fightingfan

Its becaues the Japanese arent graphic whores.

Ehh, who cares. I think western devs spend too much time trying to make uninspired replication of the real world with super tech when i would rather have an interesting artstyle.

Oh, and i know that someone would say that there are some that go beyond graphics with that tech, but that is the exception. Certainly not the rule.

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Really? Devs like Capcom and Nintendo have been doing good job IMO this gen.

Lionheart08

Nintendo? Thats pretty much impossible since they are stuck on the Wii.

Super Mario Galaxy looks really good for a Wii game. If we're going to talk about "tech" then games like Wii Sports Resort also have to be given props for how well Motion Control are implemented.

Hes talking about technical graphics , an area that is impossible for the Wii to excell t as the hardware is essentially a decade old.

Yeah. If you don't let me shoot chainsaws out of a flamethrower, you really are behind.

Western developers actually make games, japanese developers make interactive movies or crappy hentai games.deleterguy

Wow your very ignorant aren't you?

I don't know what it is about the Japanese, but it seems that if a game doesn't contain a recognisable face they've known for 20-30 years, they'll shun it.

No wonder Nintendo are so huge over there. I think there is a bit of xenophobia involved too. Thank goodness us Westerners are more open-minded to new IP's.

No, he is right. I can't believe what they did to the Final Fantasy games. Loved them back on the NES/SNES...last one I played is X and OMG I almost cried.

Then there's this:

WHY? WHY!?!?!?!?!?!

the last three GOTYs have been from a Japanese company

the last three GOTYs have been from a Japanese company

RTUUMM

Yeah, that does put things into perspective and is worth bearing in mind. Just because franchises such as Final Fantasy and Soul Calibur are growing stale, doesn't mean other franchises don't have plenty of steam left in them. The lack of new IP's is still irritating though. Even Demon's Souls is considered a part of the King's Field series.

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the last three GOTYs have been from a Japanese company

Menalque2

Yeah, that does put things into perspective and is worth bearing in mind. Just because franchises such as Final Fantasy and Soul Calibur are growing stale, doesn't mean other franchises don't have plenty of steam left in them. The lack of new IP's is still irritating though. Even Demon's Souls is considered a part of the King's Field series.

i agree with op for the most part. But not all japanese developer are behind. Capcom for example did a great engine maybe the best after crysis. If you want challenging your rig you should play against the big DX10 worm in LP.

I think it has been like this for over a decade now. Western devs are all about making new advancements in games and Japanese devs don't do crap. Whether you think that matters or not isn't the point. Look at the latest RDR multiplayer video. You don't see that kind of tech in Japanese titles. Look at Crysis, you would never see that much tech in a Japanese title. I feel that western devs are doing a better job with this, it doesn't seem Japanese devs make it a priority probably because most of them aren't funded well enough.disismycomp