What about all those RROD rebuys, 360 sales are inflated

What about those who bought the PS3 just for it's bluray player?

(Guilty)

Zophar87

I went through 1 ps3 and I know many people that went through 8 of them...I can do it too :P

In reality rebuys are a non question not with the 3 year warranty.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Actually the link says 54% for 360 and 10% for PS3.kuraimen

both of which are ridiculously high.

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

What about those who bought the PS3 just for it's bluray player?

(Guilty)

Firstinstimct

I can't think of a single person who's come into my store and bought a 360 for it's DVD player and I've worked there since long before the 360 launch.

[QUOTE="Firstinstimct"][QUOTE="Zophar87"]

What about those who bought the PS3 just for it's bluray player?

(Guilty)

I can't think of a single person who's come into my store and bought a 360 for it's DVD player and I've worked there since long before the 360 launch.

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

[QUOTE="Firstinstimct"] What about those people who bought a 360 for the dvd player. Lol @ dvds. The ps2 took care of that 11 years ago.Firstinstimct

I can't think of a single person who's come into my store and bought a 360 for it's DVD player and I've worked there since long before the 360 launch.

Yeah, it did. Let me go cry over the fact that my 360 is my least-played system.

[QUOTE="Firstinstimct"][QUOTE="_Matt_"]

Yes they will be inflated, but so will PS3 sales because of YLOD (admittedly, not as much, but there is no way to measure that, so just ignore both)

Allthishate

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

[QUOTE="Firstinstimct"] What about those people who bought a 360 for the dvd player. Lol @ dvds. The ps2 took care of that 11 years ago.kingtito

I can't think of a single person who's come into my store and bought a 360 for it's DVD player and I've worked there since long before the 360 launch.

Doubt it.

PS3 sales as well, i had to buy an Slim just because my 60GB died a few months ago.

The Wii, now that's impressive, if it were as faulty as the twins, maybe the sales would be like 150 millions or something, but no, that little one doesn't die as easily.

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

[QUOTE="Firstinstimct"] What about those people who bought a 360 for the dvd player. Lol @ dvds. The ps2 took care of that 11 years ago.Firstinstimct

I can't think of a single person who's come into my store and bought a 360 for it's DVD player and I've worked there since long before the 360 launch.

why do you accept the high failure rate for the 360 but not the ps3?

How about all those people who bought PS3s for Blu-ray? =oStevo_the_gamer

Bought 360 premium system a few months after it's release...RROD in one week.

Bought PS3 60 gig launch system...YLOD after 4 years.

My point...who gives a monkeys ass if Microsoft sold millions of their 360 systems...their hardware sucked this gen, and I will never go back. I played my 60 gig every day, and also used it for blu-rays. So Idon't mindif Sony had a very small percentage of hardware failure through the life span of it's PS3...it was still the better hardware to purchase...oh yeah the exclusives were great as well.

Bought 360 premium system a few months after it's release...RROD in one week.

Bought PS3 60 gig launch system...YLOD after 4 years.

My point...who gives a monkeys ass if Microsoft sold millions of their 360 systems...their hardware sucked this gen, and I will never go back. I played my 60 gig every day, and also used it for blu-rays. So Idon't mindif Sony had a very small percentage of hardware failure through the life span of it's PS3...it was still the better hardware to purchase...oh yeah the exclusives were great as well.

zmbi_gmr

Do you realize what you're saying?

yeah ! all those sales receipts should have an asterik on them saying ... "*just for Blu-Ray"rasengan2552

The PS3 was first and foremost a games console. It's relatively cheap price in comparison to Blu-Ray players at the time, really bolstered the secondary capability.

Regardless, what Stevo's point brings up, is that we do not know numbers for the amount of 360's purchased due to a RROD 360, nor the amount of PS3's bought as solely a Blu-Ray player. With things like the 3-year warranty in place, it also undermines much of the "re-buying due to RROD" argument.

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"] yeah ! all those sales receipts should have an asterik on them saying ... "*just for Blu-Ray"lundy86_4

The PS3 was first and foremost a games console. It's relatively cheap price in comparison to Blu-Ray players at the time, really bolstered the secondary capability.

Regardless, what Stevo's point brings up, is that we do not know numbers for the amount of 360's purchased due to a RROD 360, nor the amount of PS3's bought as solely a Blu-Ray player. With things like the 3-year warranty in place, it also undermines much of the "re-buying due to RROD" argument.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"] yeah ! all those sales receipts should have an asterik on them saying ... "*just for Blu-Ray"Riverwolf007

The PS3 was first and foremost a games console. It's relatively cheap price in comparison to Blu-Ray players at the time, really bolstered the secondary capability.

Regardless, what Stevo's point brings up, is that we do not know numbers for the amount of 360's purchased due to a RROD 360, nor the amount of PS3's bought as solely a Blu-Ray player. With things like the 3-year warranty in place, it also undermines much of the "re-buying due to RROD" argument.

first and foremost a games console? where were you from 2006 to 2009? :P

Riverwolf007

Lol, I was here. People definitely LOVED the Blu-Ray though :P

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

The PS3 was first and foremost a games console. It's relatively cheap price in comparison to Blu-Ray players at the time, really bolstered the secondary capability.

Regardless, what Stevo's point brings up, is that we do not know numbers for the amount of 360's purchased due to a RROD 360, nor the amount of PS3's bought as solely a Blu-Ray player. With things like the 3-year warranty in place, it also undermines much of the "re-buying due to RROD" argument.

rasengan2552

[QUOTE="zmbi_gmr"]

Bought 360 premium system a few months after it's release...RROD in one week.

Bought PS3 60 gig launch system...YLOD after 4 years.

My point...who gives a monkeys ass if Microsoft sold millions of their 360 systems...their hardware sucked this gen, and I will never go back. I played my 60 gig every day, and also used it for blu-rays. So Idon't mindif Sony had a very small percentage of hardware failure through the life span of it's PS3...it was still the better hardware to purchase...oh yeah the exclusives were great as well.

KC_Hokie

Do you realize what you're saying?

4 years for this gens hardware is acceptable when considering how hard it was used...1 week is not. I know ppl with launch 60 gigs that are still running fine...however I don't know anyone who's still using their launch 360's.

Weren't a lot of the RRODs covered by the extended warranty (which doesn't count as a sale)? Still I reckon the failure rate has contributed a bit to the numbers ...

[QUOTE="Firstinstimct"][QUOTE="_Matt_"]

Yes they will be inflated, but so will PS3 sales because of YLOD (admittedly, not as much, but there is no way to measure that, so just ignore both)

Allthishate

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]How about all those people who bought PS3s for Blu-ray? =orasengan2552

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="zmbi_gmr"]

Bought 360 premium system a few months after it's release...RROD in one week.

Bought PS3 60 gig launch system...YLOD after 4 years.

My point...who gives a monkeys ass if Microsoft sold millions of their 360 systems...their hardware sucked this gen, and I will never go back. I played my 60 gig every day, and also used it for blu-rays. So Idon't mindif Sony had a very small percentage of hardware failure through the life span of it's PS3...it was still the better hardware to purchase...oh yeah the exclusives were great as well.

zmbi_gmr

Do you realize what you're saying?

4 years for this gens hardware is acceptable when considering how hard it was used...1 week is not. I know ppl with launch 60 gigs that are still running fine...however I don't know anyone who's still using their launch 360's.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="zmbi_gmr"]

Bought 360 premium system a few months after it's release...RROD in one week.

Bought PS3 60 gig launch system...YLOD after 4 years.

My point...who gives a monkeys ass if Microsoft sold millions of their 360 systems...their hardware sucked this gen, and I will never go back. I played my 60 gig every day, and also used it for blu-rays. So Idon't mindif Sony had a very small percentage of hardware failure through the life span of it's PS3...it was still the better hardware to purchase...oh yeah the exclusives were great as well.

zmbi_gmr

Do you realize what you're saying?

4 years for this gens hardware is acceptable when considering how hard it was used...1 week is not. I know ppl with launch 60 gigs that are still running fine...however I don't know anyone who's still using their launch 360's.

[QUOTE="zmbi_gmr"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Your failure rate experience was 1:1 and yet say one had better hardware.

Do you realize what you're saying?

Allthishate

4 years for this gens hardware is acceptable when considering how hard it was used...1 week is not. I know ppl with launch 60 gigs that are still running fine...however I don't know anyone who's still using their launch 360's.

MS offered a 3 year warranty on every 360 console for RRoD with a re-furbished replacement (in Canada) Sony offers a 1 yr warranty after that its a hefty repair charge so most people may opt to buy a new ps3 instead.

This thread is dumb and fails completely.

Hvane't we all been through this before on SW?

That was a rhetorical question, I know we have, but still

I went through 1 ps3 and I know many people that went through 8 of them...I can do it too :P

In reality rebuys are a non question not with the 3 year warranty.

WilliamRLBaker

How about all those people who just bought a PS3 to watch Blu Ray movies? Should be discredit those as well?

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="zmbi_gmr"]

Bought 360 premium system a few months after it's release...RROD in one week.

Bought PS3 60 gig launch system...YLOD after 4 years.

My point...who gives a monkeys ass if Microsoft sold millions of their 360 systems...their hardware sucked this gen, and I will never go back. I played my 60 gig every day, and also used it for blu-rays. So Idon't mindif Sony had a very small percentage of hardware failure through the life span of it's PS3...it was still the better hardware to purchase...oh yeah the exclusives were great as well.

zmbi_gmr

Do you realize what you're saying?

4 years for this gens hardware is acceptable when considering how hard it was used...1 week is not. I know ppl with launch 60 gigs that are still running fine...however I don't know anyone who's still using their launch 360's.

That's why I love pc, lifetime warranty for a lot of my parts. I rma then like 5 years later, bam maybe an upgrade.

I went through 1 ps3 and I know many people that went through 8 of them...I can do it too :P

In reality rebuys are a non question not with the 3 year warranty.

Yeah all original 360s die. I have a launch one that RROD'd, last month. It is out of warranty... wtf no lifetime is some real crap. So I am going to take the mobo out and bake it in an oven, and then use the x clamp fix on this one. Should get another year out of it, like hell am I going to buy another one.JigglyWiggly_

360 has sold 57 million, how many of those were rebuys it doesnt really matter.

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]Yeah all original 360s die. I have a launch one that RROD'd, last month. It is out of warranty... wtf no lifetime is some real crap. So I am going to take the mobo out and bake it in an oven, and then use the x clamp fix on this one. Should get another year out of it, like hell am I going to buy another one.kingtito

egad! 360 sales are inflated! BY SALES!!! zomg! the outrage of it all!

MS counts the 360s that are given away for free with laptops. That plus RRoD is the only reason MS is still slightly ahead. PS3 will overtake it next year.

MS counts the 360s that are given away for free with laptops. That plus RRoD is the only reason MS is still slightly ahead. PS3 will overtake it next year.

ChubbyGuy40

why shouldn't they count them? :?

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

Yes they will be inflated, but so will PS3 sales because of YLOD (admittedly, not as much, but there is no way to measure that, so just ignore both)

Firstinstimct

Silliest argument ever. no matter how many times people try it. No one can tell the actual active install base for each platform, so RROD rebuys, PS3 as just a BluRay player, Wii in a closet, ect only serve to make people look desperate.

MS counts the 360s that are given away for free with laptops. That plus RRoD is the only reason MS is still slightly ahead. PS3 will overtake it next year.

ChubbyGuy40

Sony counts all the ones they give away free with Sony TVs, so what?

Lot's of PS3s were sold to replace the YLoD ones, and bad Laser ones that were not covered after the 1 year warranty ran out...so what?

Lot's of people also bought PS3s to use only as a Blu-ray player...should these not count?

I would say 4-5 million consoles are rebought