What advantages that consoles and PC have over each other?

price argument does not make much sense. Looks like random drivel. There really is no advantage there. It depends hen you crossed over to the new console vs the same timeframe of a PC gamer. I have spent significantly less then many console gamers on a desktop that only cost me 500 dollar years ago and before that had a desktop that outshined a console and cost me less then a ps3. Only thing I see now is console gamers finally admitting the pc price is not as hilarious as they once promoted (2000+ but still i see).. I spoke about this 2 years ago on System wars monthly. As for your racing... we can all play the exclusive vs exclusive match. Rfactor 2,Iracing trackmania canyons, multiplats of DIrt series, need for speeds, sonic all star racing, project cars but fomr a PC experience, a console does not come close. Hooking up a ligitech g25/g27, triple screening a racing game in a nice custom seat out shines just about anything the console can do right now. For example, Iracing Walkins Glennjedikevin2

[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]price argument does not make much sense. Looks like random drivel. There really is no advantage there. It depends hen you crossed over to the new console vs the same timeframe of a PC gamer. I have spent significantly less then many console gamers on a desktop that only cost me 500 dollar years ago and before that had a desktop that outshined a console and cost me less then a ps3. Only thing I see now is console gamers finally admitting the pc price is not as hilarious as they once promoted (2000+ but still i see).. I spoke about this 2 years ago on System wars monthly. As for your racing... we can all play the exclusive vs exclusive match. Rfactor 2,Iracing trackmania canyons, multiplats of DIrt series, need for speeds, sonic all star racing, project cars but fomr a PC experience, a console does not come close. Hooking up a ligitech g25/g27, triple screening a racing game in a nice custom seat out shines just about anything the console can do right now. For example, Iracing Walkins GlennJamiemydearx3

WTF is a true pc gamer? You choosing to upgrade does not make it so. Its a choice. If you are forced to upgrade then it makes sense just as a console gamer is not forced to buy multiple controllers, usb dongles, buy 100's of AA batteries, recharging stations, pay 30-60 bucks a year of internet for xbox live or the psn high tier service, get wii balance boards, wii plus, wii peripheral remotes for special games (lwavebirds, classic controllers for SSBB etc) and whatever peripherals. Price argument can be a real joke. What do we say once console gamers are rebuying a new console again now that were are close to a new "generation"? Again, its all about timing. Spoke about that in May Edition of system wars monthly in 2010. Throwing out hilarious price argument without recognizing everything is whats hilarious to me.

[QUOTE="Jamiemydearx3"]

[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]price argument does not make much sense. Looks like random drivel. There really is no advantage there. It depends hen you crossed over to the new console vs the same timeframe of a PC gamer. I have spent significantly less then many console gamers on a desktop that only cost me 500 dollar years ago and before that had a desktop that outshined a console and cost me less then a ps3. Only thing I see now is console gamers finally admitting the pc price is not as hilarious as they once promoted (2000+ but still i see).. I spoke about this 2 years ago on System wars monthly. As for your racing... we can all play the exclusive vs exclusive match. Rfactor 2,Iracing trackmania canyons, multiplats of DIrt series, need for speeds, sonic all star racing, project cars but fomr a PC experience, a console does not come close. Hooking up a ligitech g25/g27, triple screening a racing game in a nice custom seat out shines just about anything the console can do right now. For example, Iracing Walkins Glennjedikevin2

WTF is a true pc gamer? You choosing to upgrade does not make it so. Its a choice. If you are forced to upgrade then it makes sense just as a console gamer is not forced to buy multiple controllers, usb dongles, buy 100's of AA batteries, recharging stations, pay 30-60 bucks a year of internet for xbox live or the psn high tier service, get wii balance boards, wii plus, wii peripheral remotes for special games (lwavebirds, classic controllers for SSBB etc) and whatever peripherals. Price argument can be a real joke. What do we say once console gamers are rebuying a new console again now that were are close to a new "generation"? Again, its all about timing. Spoke about that in May Edition of system wars monthly in 2010. Throwing out hilarious price argument without recognizing everything is whats hilarious to me.

People often say that Steam sales even everything out in the end, but that's BS. If you shop around and know what you're doing, console software is just as cheap or cheaper than Steam, even when Steam is having a sale.arkephonic

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]People often say that Steam sales even everything out in the end, but that's BS. If you shop around and know what you're doing, console software is just as cheap or cheaper than Steam, even when Steam is having a sale.DraugenCP

consoles - much more likely to lose virginity.

TopTierHustler

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"] its not really supported by anything, but can be programmed to do everything.You can make any button become any key you want, or make any button act as a multiple key macro complete with delays, and endless loops. and keyboard is miles ahead of nothing :P keyboard is so bad for gaming.BeardMaster

In your opinion,of course ;)

But that is fine,there are many control devices on the market,enough to suit all tastes,so we can always agree to disagree :)

The nostromo is basically a modified keyboard (they call it a keypad) with software that allows for programming macros

PC is easier to clean from dust.

[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]

[QUOTE="Jamiemydearx3"] PC is far more expensive to the average the true PC gamer..We upgrade every couple three years.

Jamiemydearx3

WTF is a true pc gamer? You choosing to upgrade does not make it so. Its a choice. If you are forced to upgrade then it makes sense just as a console gamer is not forced to buy multiple controllers, usb dongles, buy 100's of AA batteries, recharging stations, pay 30-60 bucks a year of internet for xbox live or the psn high tier service, get wii balance boards, wii plus, wii peripheral remotes for special games (lwavebirds, classic controllers for SSBB etc) and whatever peripherals. Price argument can be a real joke. What do we say once console gamers are rebuying a new console again now that were are close to a new "generation"? Again, its all about timing. Spoke about that in May Edition of system wars monthly in 2010. Throwing out hilarious price argument without recognizing everything is whats hilarious to me.

That's a horrible definition

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]People often say that Steam sales even everything out in the end, but that's BS. If you shop around and know what you're doing, console software is just as cheap or cheaper than Steam, even when Steam is having a sale.DraugenCP

Yeah, he's making stuff up now. You can save with consoles, through renting service and stuff, but when it comes to actually owning games, it's hard to beat the sales on Steam and other DD sites.

People often say that Steam sales even everything out in the end, but that's BS. If you shop around and know what you're doing, console software is just as cheap or cheaper than Steam, even when Steam is having a sale. I often get brand new, sealed console games for anywhere from $5 to $15 bucks. Not bargain bin stuff, critically acclaimed games that sell for $60 bucks almost everywhere you go. The real difference here is the platform costs. Consoles are roughly $300 bucks, whereas if you want a top end gaming PC, you're easily spending over $1000 bucks. A top end video card alone costs more than a console, then you have to take into consideration motherboard, disc drives, harddrives, RAM, processor, cooling, power supply, sound card, and if you buy the good stuff, it can get expensive in a hurry.

arkephonic

First of all, why would you compare a high-end PC with a console? Why not compare a $600.00 PC with a $300.00 console? That would make a lot more sense than comparing a console with a PC worth a thousand dollars. Second, saying that console games are cheaper than games 75% off on steam is delusional. If you want to buy games on ebay for the same price as a steam sale, and wait 1-2 weeks before actually receiving the game, then go ahead.

playing with a keyboard and mouse sucks. i hate it.mems_1224

[QUOTE="DraugenCP"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]People often say that Steam sales even everything out in the end, but that's BS. If you shop around and know what you're doing, console software is just as cheap or cheaper than Steam, even when Steam is having a sale.BeardMaster

That's only one game. I bought about a hundred games from Steam, all 66-75% off.

You forgot that an advantage for owning a PS3/360/Wii is being able to play all those last gen games like uncharted, gears of war and Super Mario Galaxy.

Well I am new to PC gaming (the hermits on here are not very helpful, they just yell "cow" and make fun of me) but I have a lot to do still.

PC Pros (based off of MY experience so far):

-Framerate is much better, like 60 FPS in just every game I play. Console verisons often feel sluggish by comparison.

-It's nice to have game library on one system, including older games. Many of these older games still have strong communities for support and mods

-Modding is great and adds in lot's of replay value. Your games never end on PC.

-Learning about PC's and tech in general is fun.

-Steam is very good with it's deals (lol at paying for online)

-You get out of it which you put in

PC Cons:

-It is expensive in the short term

-Can be a little frustrating sometimes to optimize or do things

-Playing on a monitor for too long sucks, you can use a TV but my PC does not work right. I think I may need to download something first.

-Some mods are bug ridden

-Hermits do over exaggerate things and downplay what consoles are capable of

-I have yet to see these WOW grapihcs between the vanilla versions of PC games and my PS3 versions, though this could be because my PC is not upgraded well enough yet

-Some aspects are confusing

-While you can play a lot of games with a console controller, I find they often have input lag

Well I am new to PC gaming (the hermits on here are not very helpful, they just yell "cow" and make fun of me) but I have a lot to do still.

PC Pros (based off of MY experience so far):

-Framerate is much better, like 60 FPS in just every game I play. Console verisons often feel sluggish by comparison.

-It's nice to have game library on one system, including older games. Many of these older games still have strong communities for support and mods

-Modding is great and adds in lot's of replay value. Your games never end on PC.

-Learning about PC's and tech in general is fun.

-Steam is very good with it's deals (lol at paying for online)

-You get out of it which you put in

PC Cons:

-It is expensive in the short term

-Can be a little frustrating sometimes to optimize or do things

-Playing on a monitor for too long sucks, you can use a TV but my PC does not work right. I think I may need to download something first.

-Some mods are bug ridden

-Hermits do over exaggerate things and downplay what consoles are capable of

-I have yet to see these WOW grapihcs between the vanilla versions of PC games and my PS3 versions, though this could be because my PC is not upgraded well enough yet

-Some aspects are confusing

-While you can play a lot of games with a console controller, I find they often have input lag

ShadowMoses900

Two problems with all that:

1.The thread you made about PC gaming felt suspicious,I still doubt its credibility for various reasons.For example,you asked about performance differences berween Skyrim and modded Morrowind,and despite all the responses about engine differences,you still continued with "games look almost the same" drivel...

2.Even if your experiences with the PC are genuine,they're still based on severely aged hardware,like outdated dual-core CPU,and integrated GPU,that cancel out many PC strengths constantly discussed on this board

[QUOTE="DraugenCP"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]People often say that Steam sales even everything out in the end, but that's BS. If you shop around and know what you're doing, console software is just as cheap or cheaper than Steam, even when Steam is having a sale.Kickinurass

Yeah, he's making stuff up now. You can save with consoles, through renting service and stuff, but when it comes to actually owning games, it's hard to beat the sales on Steam and other DD sites.

Don't blame me cause you guys don't know how to find deals. I've easily bought 100 console games for cheaper than Steam has ever had them on sale for. I'm talking about brand new, relevant, sealed, critically acclaimed games. Not bargain bin crap.

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

[QUOTE="DraugenCP"]

This is just blatantly not true.

arkephonic

Yeah, he's making stuff up now. You can save with consoles, through renting service and stuff, but when it comes to actually owning games, it's hard to beat the sales on Steam and other DD sites.

Don't blame me cause you guys don't know how to find deals. I've easily bought 100 console games for cheaper than Steam has ever had them on sale for. I'm talking about brand new, relevant, sealed, critically acclaimed games. Not bargain bin crap.

Where?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

Yeah, he's making stuff up now. You can save with consoles, through renting service and stuff, but when it comes to actually owning games, it's hard to beat the sales on Steam and other DD sites.

lostrib

Don't blame me cause you guys don't know how to find deals. I've easily bought 100 console games for cheaper than Steam has ever had them on sale for. I'm talking about brand new, relevant, sealed, critically acclaimed games. Not bargain bin crap.

Where?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

Yeah, he's making stuff up now. You can save with consoles, through renting service and stuff, but when it comes to actually owning games, it's hard to beat the sales on Steam and other DD sites.

lostrib

Don't blame me cause you guys don't know how to find deals. I've easily bought 100 console games for cheaper than Steam has ever had them on sale for. I'm talking about brand new, relevant, sealed, critically acclaimed games. Not bargain bin crap.

Where?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

Yeah, he's making stuff up now. You can save with consoles, through renting service and stuff, but when it comes to actually owning games, it's hard to beat the sales on Steam and other DD sites.

lostrib

Don't blame me cause you guys don't know how to find deals. I've easily bought 100 console games for cheaper than Steam has ever had them on sale for. I'm talking about brand new, relevant, sealed, critically acclaimed games. Not bargain bin crap.

Where?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

Yeah, he's making stuff up now. You can save with consoles, through renting service and stuff, but when it comes to actually owning games, it's hard to beat the sales on Steam and other DD sites.

lostrib

Don't blame me cause you guys don't know how to find deals. I've easily bought 100 console games for cheaper than Steam has ever had them on sale for. I'm talking about brand new, relevant, sealed, critically acclaimed games. Not bargain bin crap.

Where?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

Yeah, he's making stuff up now. You can save with consoles, through renting service and stuff, but when it comes to actually owning games, it's hard to beat the sales on Steam and other DD sites.

lostrib

Don't blame me cause you guys don't know how to find deals. I've easily bought 100 console games for cheaper than Steam has ever had them on sale for. I'm talking about brand new, relevant, sealed, critically acclaimed games. Not bargain bin crap.

Where?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

Yeah, he's making stuff up now. You can save with consoles, through renting service and stuff, but when it comes to actually owning games, it's hard to beat the sales on Steam and other DD sites.

lostrib

Don't blame me cause you guys don't know how to find deals. I've easily bought 100 console games for cheaper than Steam has ever had them on sale for. I'm talking about brand new, relevant, sealed, critically acclaimed games. Not bargain bin crap.

Where?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

Yeah, he's making stuff up now. You can save with consoles, through renting service and stuff, but when it comes to actually owning games, it's hard to beat the sales on Steam and other DD sites.

lostrib

Don't blame me cause you guys don't know how to find deals. I've easily bought 100 console games for cheaper than Steam has ever had them on sale for. I'm talking about brand new, relevant, sealed, critically acclaimed games. Not bargain bin crap.

Where?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

Yeah, he's making stuff up now. You can save with consoles, through renting service and stuff, but when it comes to actually owning games, it's hard to beat the sales on Steam and other DD sites.

lostrib

Don't blame me cause you guys don't know how to find deals. I've easily bought 100 console games for cheaper than Steam has ever had them on sale for. I'm talking about brand new, relevant, sealed, critically acclaimed games. Not bargain bin crap.

Where?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

Yeah, he's making stuff up now. You can save with consoles, through renting service and stuff, but when it comes to actually owning games, it's hard to beat the sales on Steam and other DD sites.

lostrib

Don't blame me cause you guys don't know how to find deals. I've easily bought 100 console games for cheaper than Steam has ever had them on sale for. I'm talking about brand new, relevant, sealed, critically acclaimed games. Not bargain bin crap.

Where?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

Yeah, he's making stuff up now. You can save with consoles, through renting service and stuff, but when it comes to actually owning games, it's hard to beat the sales on Steam and other DD sites.

lostrib

Don't blame me cause you guys don't know how to find deals. I've easily bought 100 console games for cheaper than Steam has ever had them on sale for. I'm talking about brand new, relevant, sealed, critically acclaimed games. Not bargain bin crap.

Where?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

Yeah, he's making stuff up now. You can save with consoles, through renting service and stuff, but when it comes to actually owning games, it's hard to beat the sales on Steam and other DD sites.

lostrib

Don't blame me cause you guys don't know how to find deals. I've easily bought 100 console games for cheaper than Steam has ever had them on sale for. I'm talking about brand new, relevant, sealed, critically acclaimed games. Not bargain bin crap.

Where?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

Yeah, he's making stuff up now. You can save with consoles, through renting service and stuff, but when it comes to actually owning games, it's hard to beat the sales on Steam and other DD sites.

lostrib

Don't blame me cause you guys don't know how to find deals. I've easily bought 100 console games for cheaper than Steam has ever had them on sale for. I'm talking about brand new, relevant, sealed, critically acclaimed games. Not bargain bin crap.

Where?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

Yeah, he's making stuff up now. You can save with consoles, through renting service and stuff, but when it comes to actually owning games, it's hard to beat the sales on Steam and other DD sites.

lostrib

Don't blame me cause you guys don't know how to find deals. I've easily bought 100 console games for cheaper than Steam has ever had them on sale for. I'm talking about brand new, relevant, sealed, critically acclaimed games. Not bargain bin crap.

Where?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

Yeah, he's making stuff up now. You can save with consoles, through renting service and stuff, but when it comes to actually owning games, it's hard to beat the sales on Steam and other DD sites.

lostrib

Don't blame me cause you guys don't know how to find deals. I've easily bought 100 console games for cheaper than Steam has ever had them on sale for. I'm talking about brand new, relevant, sealed, critically acclaimed games. Not bargain bin crap.

Where?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

Yeah, he's making stuff up now. You can save with consoles, through renting service and stuff, but when it comes to actually owning games, it's hard to beat the sales on Steam and other DD sites.

lostrib

Don't blame me cause you guys don't know how to find deals. I've easily bought 100 console games for cheaper than Steam has ever had them on sale for. I'm talking about brand new, relevant, sealed, critically acclaimed games. Not bargain bin crap.

Where?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

Yeah, he's making stuff up now. You can save with consoles, through renting service and stuff, but when it comes to actually owning games, it's hard to beat the sales on Steam and other DD sites.

lostrib

Don't blame me cause you guys don't know how to find deals. I've easily bought 100 console games for cheaper than Steam has ever had them on sale for. I'm talking about brand new, relevant, sealed, critically acclaimed games. Not bargain bin crap.

Where?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

Yeah, he's making stuff up now. You can save with consoles, through renting service and stuff, but when it comes to actually owning games, it's hard to beat the sales on Steam and other DD sites.

lostrib

Don't blame me cause you guys don't know how to find deals. I've easily bought 100 console games for cheaper than Steam has ever had them on sale for. I'm talking about brand new, relevant, sealed, critically acclaimed games. Not bargain bin crap.

Where?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

Yeah, he's making stuff up now. You can save with consoles, through renting service and stuff, but when it comes to actually owning games, it's hard to beat the sales on Steam and other DD sites.

lostrib

Don't blame me cause you guys don't know how to find deals. I've easily bought 100 console games for cheaper than Steam has ever had them on sale for. I'm talking about brand new, relevant, sealed, critically acclaimed games. Not bargain bin crap.

Where?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

Yeah, he's making stuff up now. You can save with consoles, through renting service and stuff, but when it comes to actually owning games, it's hard to beat the sales on Steam and other DD sites.

lostrib

Don't blame me cause you guys don't know how to find deals. I've easily bought 100 console games for cheaper than Steam has ever had them on sale for. I'm talking about brand new, relevant, sealed, critically acclaimed games. Not bargain bin crap.

Where?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

Yeah, he's making stuff up now. You can save with consoles, through renting service and stuff, but when it comes to actually owning games, it's hard to beat the sales on Steam and other DD sites.

lostrib

Don't blame me cause you guys don't know how to find deals. I've easily bought 100 console games for cheaper than Steam has ever had them on sale for. I'm talking about brand new, relevant, sealed, critically acclaimed games. Not bargain bin crap.

Where?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

Yeah, he's making stuff up now. You can save with consoles, through renting service and stuff, but when it comes to actually owning games, it's hard to beat the sales on Steam and other DD sites.

lostrib

Don't blame me cause you guys don't know how to find deals. I've easily bought 100 console games for cheaper than Steam has ever had them on sale for. I'm talking about brand new, relevant, sealed, critically acclaimed games. Not bargain bin crap.

Where?

Don't blame me cause you guys don't know how to find deals. I've easily bought 100 console games for cheaper than Steam has ever had them on sale for. I'm talking about brand new, relevant, sealed, critically acclaimed games. Not bargain bin crap.

arkephonic

Well please tell us how to do that, because to me it sounds like you are clueless. How do you even know what price Steam sells games if you only buy console games? Have you been hanging around the steam summer sale thread? What game did you get for less than it was being sold for? Because if you keep posting this things, nobody, and I mean NOBODY will believe you and it just sounds like flame bait.

Wtf just happened? LOL.. Glitchspot posted my message like 50 times.. Oosuperclocked

Wtf just happened? LOL.. Glitchspot posted my message like 50 times.. Oosuperclocked

Bonk just had your butt for lunch. Watch yourself.. he might get you again.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Don't blame me cause you guys don't know how to find deals. I've easily bought 100 console games for cheaper than Steam has ever had them on sale for. I'm talking about brand new, relevant, sealed, critically acclaimed games. Not bargain bin crap.

bloodling

Well please tell us how to do that, because to me it sounds like you are clueless. How do you even know what price Steam sells games if you only buy console games? Have you been hanging around the steam summer sale thread? What game did you get for less than it was being sold for? Because if you keep posting this things, nobody, and I mean NOBODY will believe you and it just sounds like flame bait.

Wait, I only buy console games? :lol:

[QUOTE="bloodling"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Don't blame me cause you guys don't know how to find deals. I've easily bought 100 console games for cheaper than Steam has ever had them on sale for. I'm talking about brand new, relevant, sealed, critically acclaimed games. Not bargain bin crap.

arkephonic

Well please tell us how to do that, because to me it sounds like you are clueless. How do you even know what price Steam sells games if you only buy console games? Have you been hanging around the steam summer sale thread? What game did you get for less than it was being sold for? Because if you keep posting this things, nobody, and I mean NOBODY will believe you and it just sounds like flame bait.

Wait, I only buy console games? :lol:

Way to miss the point. Where do you get these games?

[QUOTE="bloodling"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Don't blame me cause you guys don't know how to find deals. I've easily bought 100 console games for cheaper than Steam has ever had them on sale for. I'm talking about brand new, relevant, sealed, critically acclaimed games. Not bargain bin crap.

arkephonic

Well please tell us how to do that, because to me it sounds like you are clueless. How do you even know what price Steam sells games if you only buy console games? Have you been hanging around the steam summer sale thread? What game did you get for less than it was being sold for? Because if you keep posting this things, nobody, and I mean NOBODY will believe you and it just sounds like flame bait.

Wait, I only buy console games? :lol:

That's the impression I had since you seem to be clueless about how cheap games can be on Steam. Also, way to avoid the question and focus on something completely irrelevant. The more I listen to you, the more I think you're flaming.

I actually prefer PC over consoles, and this thread is littered with insecure hermits defending the PC acting like I'm bashing on it. Just goes to show that hermits are pretty pathetic. Good thing I'm a manticore, I'd hate to be considered a hermit LOL!

I actually prefer PC over consoles, and this thread is littered with insecure hermits defending the PC acting like I'm bashing on it. Just goes to show that hermits are pretty pathetic. Good thing I'm a manticore, I'd hate to be considered a hermit LOL!

arkephonic