What are your biggest disappointments this gen?

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#1 masterdante
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How bout a fun little gripe thread? Dont get many of those around here, amirite? K ill start. Halo: Reach. After Halo 3, which i still say was the most fun with multiplayer ive had this gen, i was really hoping for something to be even better. Unfortunately for me, it just was a big letdown. My biggest problem was the maps which i thought were very bland and uninspired. Ugh...... God of War 3. For the first two hours of this game, i was absolutely blown away. It was a scale unlike anything id ever seen, and i was ready to call it game of the year. Then it just collapsed on itself. Especially when the whiny Pandora appeared and i climbed around boxes in the labrynths. Too bad. Fable 3. Sweet mother of god. -Well i guess thats it for now. What are your sadness inducing games, superfriends?
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#2 NeonNinja
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We get quite a few of these, actually.

Still, my disappointments include Metroid Prime 3, Gears of War 2, BioShock, Call of Duty 4, SoulCalibur IV, Fallout 3, Braid, Super Meat Boy, No More Heroes 2, STALKER, Battlefield: Bad Company 2 and many more.

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#3 CasualMike
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Dragon Age 2. Holy hell. Its like they listened to everything we liked about Dragon Age Origins and everything we wanted for the sequel, and said "**** you, here's this 1 city. go play." Like, they seriously did a TERRIBLE job at trying to improve it. They focused on the combat which was FINE for what Dragon Age was. It needed minimal improvements. It hindered the creation of a decent story. They could have done a much better job with the world they established in the first DA game. And I loved God of War 3. Lived up to it all for me. And another disappointment for me would be...probably Modern Warfare 2. Just...meh. Story was just completely bonkers and that was when the MP started to get retarded
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#4 soulitane
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Fable 2, could have been so much better if they went in the opposite direction to what they did with that game.
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#5 UnrealLegend
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Off the top of my head:

Crysis 2

Sims 3

LA Noire

Prototype

Resistance 2

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#6 call_of_duty_10
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Crysis 2,UT 3,Supreme Commander 2 and Dragon age 2.

Is Fear 2 from this gen?

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#7 masterdante
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NeonNinja im actually impressed that you just listed games that many consider the best this gen. The only one i would argue with you on is Fallout 3. Me luvz it.
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#8 masterdante
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oooohhhh LA Noire is a good one to pick! I was very excited for it but it drove me nuts when i would use a logical piece of evidence and the game would tell me i was wrong. It seemed kind of arbitrary. Blah.
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#9 ghostofzabis
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New gothic games, Risen (feels like gothic 3), NWN2 oc, Anno 1404 (too many fetch quests), Romance of three kingdoms X/XI (X was a dumb down version of taikou rishideen, XI became too focused on battles), and more.

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#10 DealRogers
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FFXIII, Assassin's Creed 2, Resistance 3, Nintendo 3DS

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#11 Maroxad
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My biggest disappointment is how the trends are shifting this gen with Set pieces>Level Design and Cinematic Gameplay>All.

Gamewise it was Dragon Age Origins. It is like Bioware forgot everything that made Baldur's Gate good. It has

MMO combat as opposed to tactical combat.
Awful Level design.
Terrible encounter design where each and every encounter is just copy pasta.
3 cIasses with 2 of them barely having anything to set them apart.
Pathetic attempts at humor or depth with lines that only end up being cringeworthy and falls down to fanfiction levels of quality.
Complete lack of relevant penalty for dying, dying means nothing, except for a minor debuff. Health and mana regenerates after combat which means no consequences of doing poorly.

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#12 loosingENDS
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In order

1.FF13, does not get worst than that, worst game i have ever played, Square is pretty dead for me now and i bought my PS3 just for that game mainly at launch

2. White Knight Chronicles, one of the worst games of all time for me, generic and boring, Level 5 is definatly not what it used to be

3. Zelda TP, good game (it is a Zelda afterall), but comparing to older ones was far easier, one step back in art and felt old, definatly did not justify my Wii purshase, Zelda SS will though

4. MGS4, i expected a next gen title, with open levels and freedom and got just another old style game with paths and coriddors

5. GOW3, same as #4, too same to last gen titles, linear, repeatitve and limited

6. Dragon Age 2, mediocre stuff too

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Biggest dissapointment this gen is the score infaltion and the ">9.0 so it is worth playing " trend.

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#14 Khoo1992
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My biggest disappointment?

So many COD clones!!!

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#15 Eikichi-Onizuka
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Valkyria Chronicles series moving to handheld and then 3 not even being localized. White Knight Chronicles and Level 5 in general, they might be able to make up for some of that with Ni no Kuni. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - Good game but I wasn't wowed by it at all, I liked Wind Waker better. Xbox 360 exclusives: I rebought the system after it red ringed and other then Alan Wake and Halo, they stopped coming(I don't care for Gears, Forza 4 is a maybe). Damn Kinect. >_
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#16 WasacreOL
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In order

1.FF13, does not get worst than that, worst game i have ever played, Square is pretty dead for me now and i bought my PS3 just for that game mainly at launch

2. White Knight Chronicles, one of the worst games of all time for me, generic and boring, Level 5 is definatly not what it used to be

3. Zelda TP, good game (it is a Zelda afterall), but comparing to older ones was far easier, one step back in art and felt old, definatly did not justify my Wii purshase, Zelda SS will though

4. MGS4, i expected a next gen title, with open levels and freedom and got just another old style game with paths and coriddors

5. GOW3, same as #4, too same to last gen titles, linear, repeatitve and limited

6. Dragon Age 2, mediocre stuff too

loosingENDS
Lol how do you expect MGS and god of war to be "next gen" if theyre a series! Being the same as the last game is the whole point of it being a sequel...
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Kane & Lynch: Dead Men. I'm probably alone on this one but I was so hyped for the game. Awesome premise with what seemed to be some really badass and unique characters and from all the gameplay videos that I watched it just seemed way sick. Then the game came out and it wasn't quite what I expected. Granted I still enjoyed the game, especially the first half, but it was very much a flawed game that had a lot of potential just thrown down the drain. Assassins Creed 2. Go from a cold professional assassin and a gameplay focus on stealth (Assassin's Creed) to a whiny b**** rich boy with a gameplay focus on straight up action (Assassin's Creed 2).
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#19 TheGrudge13
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my list in no particular order :-

- Burnout Paradise

- COD MW2

- Mafia 2

- Dragon Age 2

- Star Wars The Force Unleshed

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#20 D3dr0_0
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Final Fantasy XIII easily, never have I been so dissapointed in one of my favorite series like that.

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#21 Arach666
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UT3,Crysis 2,Dragon Age 2,SupCom 2,FFXIII,RDR,Oblivion,MW2 come to mind.

Edit: Also Far Cry 2 and C&C 4.

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#23 Pug-Nasty
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Let's see.

Turok: What a pile of crap.

Spiderman 3: I wasn't expecting much, but the awesome webslinging from 2 was gone, and that was all I really wanted.

Resistance 3 & Killzone 3: Both mediocre followups to fantastic games.

Bad Company 2: A pretty decent MP ruined by awful hit detection and a piss poor squad system.

Infamous: Was good, but I think the traversal system could have used some serious work.

Fallout 3: Oblvion was amazing to me, but the horirble combat of Fallout 3 coupled with the lack of stuff to do was a serious downgrade. I never touched the main quest in Oblivion because there was so much else to do, but I couldn't avoid the main quest in Fallout 3.

GTA IV: Awful gameplay. Just awful.

RDR: Slightly better gameplay. Absolutely boring game.

That's it for now. I'm sure I have more that I can't really think of at this moment.

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#24 LordRork
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Dragon Age: Origins - Just too much of a hardcore RPG for me. It turns into a long, soulless grind.

Battlefield 3 - Looks good...but after a while it stops being enjoyable (And no, I don't play CoD!).

Supreme Commander 2 - Dumbed down sequel with no soul.

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#25 R4gn4r0k
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Crysis 2, Far Cry 2 and Rage are my biggest dissapointments. I expected so much and got so little.

Rage and Crysis really suffered under the multiplatform development and Far Cry 2 was repetitive & dumb.

Biggest dissapointment this gen is the score infaltion and the ">9.0 so it is worth playing " trend.

ioannisdenton

It's dissapointing yeah but it's really their loss. And they don't get what you said that review scores can be inflated and shouldn't blindly be followed

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#26 R4gn4r0k
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]UT3,Crysis 2,Dragon Age 2,SupCom 2,FFXIII,RDR,Oblivion,MW2 come to mind.SNIPER4321
Crysis 2 is not bad at all. its a good game but nowhere near Crysis 1 RDR?? lol its one of the best game ever. EVER!!

That is why it's such a big dissapointment. Instead of building upon the original it took features away (the biggest loss was ofcourse the open world which was replaced by corridor shooting) and wanted to be too much like COD.

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#28 Sollet
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FF13 UT3 SW force unleashed
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#29 milannoir
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Dragon Age 2

Supreme Commander 2

SW : The Force Unleashed

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#30 UnrealLegend
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Oh yeah, I forgot about UT3. I still actually like a quite a lot though.

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#31 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]UT3,Crysis 2,Dragon Age 2,SupCom 2,FFXIII,RDR,Oblivion,MW2 come to mind.SNIPER4321
Crysis 2 is not bad at all. its a good game but nowhere near Crysis 1 RDR?? lol its one of the best game ever. EVER!!

Well,that´s cool man,I still found both disapointing though.

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#32 NiteLights
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Crysis 2, Multi - player was a Call of Duty clone and the single - player got a little repititve, but there are worse.

Big Rigs

FarCry 2, Not sure why it was named FarCry, but it was repitive and the long, long driving scenes brought in the boredom.

Modern Warfare 2, I fell in love with Call of Duty 4, but for some reason Modern Warfare 2 didn't amaze me, campaign had numerous plot holes and the multi - player was as unbalanced as some games could be.

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#33 Oil_Rope_Bombs
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Final Fantasy XIII - Biggest disappointment by Square, EVER. White Knight Chronicles - Didn't want to play it after 10 minutes.
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#34 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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Crysis 2, Rage, Quake 4, Resident Evil 5, GT5, Alan Wake... Game I was very very excited for but left feeling disappointed.
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#35 187umKILLAH
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For me its this whole sudden obsession game developers/publishers have with forcing this horrid Online pass on us, especially if it means offline gamers miss out on game content just because they don't play online. It baffles me that game creators think for some reason they are entitled to extra money off the second hand sale of their product when someone has already paid full price for it on the original sale, especially considering no other industry in the world does this. The whole movement towards digital gaming is both annoying and scarey, it means you no longer have any resale ability at all and can't lend your game to friends/family anymore. It's driven by pure greed, nothing else.

But as far as games go I'd say Final Fantasy 13, Dragon Age 2, Duke Nukem Forever, The Cursed Crusade, Rage, Ace Combat: Assault Horizon.

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#36 TonyDanzaFan
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L.A. Noire BY FARRRRRR.....Mr Farr. I had been looking forward to that game for years, and it just BLEW. It was boring, repetitive, and just not fun.
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#37 Weenski
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-Farcry 2: Saw this in a second hand shop, bought it, hated it. -Assassins Creed 2: Just couldn't get into it. -RDR: Again, not my kind of game; I found it boring. -Uncharted DF was a bit dissapointing because I got it after playing Uncharted 2 and although it was pretty good, my expectations were toohigh. -MW2: I just got quickly fed up with screaming kids, rocket launchers, air strikes and missiles. Yea I wasn't good at MW2. IMO the killsteaks ruined the game for those of us who aren't very good at it.
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#38 doll94
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GTA4, Vanquish, MVC3, Resistance 2+3, MGS4, Burnout Paradise, RAGE, Blazblue CS+CT, Bangai-O HD, Braid, Limbo, And im sure that there is about another 100 or so :S
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Crysis 2 was horrible. They removed everything that made the first game awesome.
Dragon Age 2 and Far Cry 2 were also huge disappointments to me.

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#40 Maroxad
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Dragon Age: Origins - Just too much of a hardcore RPG for me. It turns into a long, soulless grind.

LordRork

That describes Dragon Age Origins quite well. Minus the hardcore RPG part. Compared to many RPGs I have played it was pretty darn casual.

Here are some stuff that defines a hardcore rpg for me.

  1. Choices with potentially devestating consequences that the game doesnt warn you about beforehand.
  2. Permadeath that are not scripted. Characters can permadie during normal gameplay.
  3. 6 or more party members.
  4. A game world that potentially fights back.
  5. No threat system, enemies usually go after the targets that are the easiest to kill, usually the mages.
  6. 0 level scaling.
  7. Many ways to die (starvation, disentigration, falling into lava, drowning, sleep deprivation, choking ect)
  8. Deadly traps.
  9. No or very slow (as in it takes days to get back to full life) regeneration, in fact healing should be very limited.
  10. Starvation and thirst.
  11. Heavy resource management. Especially casters. They should not be able to fling spells every turn.
  12. Enemies that can kill your party members in about 2-3 hits.
  13. Varied enemy and encounter design, to avoid making combat too predictable.
  14. Limited inventory.
  15. Disease and poison which will weaken attributes and just kill a character outright if it doesnt get cured quickly enough, the damage caused by both should preferably be permanent.

Edit:Though a game does not need to have all 15. All a hardcore RPG needs is a large skill gap, brutally punish failure and reward skill. Something DAO didnt. Unforgiving, frustrating, punishing, but at the same time rewarding.

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Elemental - With add-ons Galactic Civilizations 2 is one of the very best TBSes ever made and IMO the best 4X of all time. So I expected Elemental to do the same..surpass Master of Magic the way GC2 surpasses Master of Orion. Instead we got completely broken game, in alpha state and bassicaly unplayable becasue of terrible ammount of plain stupid design decisions

Silent Hunter 5/ Cliffs of Dover - same case with both those, sequels to the best games in their respective subgenres, both released in alpha states

Rainbow Six: Vegas - up untill like a month before the game was out Ubisoft lied in faces of PC fansw promising them that PC version will be like GRAW - ie a separate game with focus on tactics and realism. So while Vegas turned out to be a nice arcade shooter, I was still insanely dissapointed.

Dreamfall- story cut roughly and wrapped up, terrible action scenes and weak puzzles.

Paradise - decent on it's own, but compared to the masterpiece that Syberia was...uhh

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#43 incuensuocha
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GTAIV - Never thought I could possibly be bored by a GTA game, but that's exactly what happened with this one. LA Noire - I was really excited for this game. I love a good detective story. This game was so repetitive and boring though that I sold it without even finishing it. I guess you could say I was dissapointed with Rockstar in general. Liked RDR, but don't think it's Godly like some do. COD - Was a huge COD fan at the the time of 1 & 2. That series has just taken a major dump recently.
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[QUOTE="LordRork"]

Dragon Age: Origins - Just too much of a hardcore RPG for me. It turns into a long, soulless grind.

Maroxad

That describes Dragon Age Origins quite well. Minus the hardcore RPG part. Compared to many RPGs I have played it was pretty darn casual.

Here is what defines a hardcore rpg for me.

  1. Choices with potentially devestating consequences that the game doesnt warn you about beforehand.
  2. Permadeath that are not scripted. Characters can permadie during normal gameplay.
  3. 6 or more party members.
  4. A game world that potentially fights back.
  5. No threat system, enemies usually go after the targets that are the easiest to kill, usually the mages.
  6. 0 level scaling.
  7. Many ways to die (starvation, disentigration, falling into lava, drowning, sleep deprivation, choking ect)
  8. Deadly traps.
  9. No or very slow (as in it takes days to get back to full life) regeneration, in fact healing should be very limited.
  10. Starvation and thirst.
  11. Heavy resource management. Especially casters. They should not be able to fling spells every turn.
  12. Enemies that can kill your party members in about 2-3 hits.
  13. Varied enemy and encounter design, to avoid making combat too predictable.
  14. Limited inventory.
  15. Disease and poison which will weaken attributes and just kill a character outright if it doesnt get cured quickly enough, the damage caused by both should preferably be permanent.

Does an RPG with all those features even exist?:P
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#45 chocolate1325
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Resident Evil 5: Biggest Dissapointment ever I hyped this for game of the year maybe because number 4 was just so good.

Gran Turismo 5:4 years PS3 owners waited for this the wait wasn't worthwhile.

Bioshock 2: I thought the original was vastly superior.

Bayonetta: I thought this was gonna be ace but it got boring after 2 hours.

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Crysis 2 - was a great game in its own right, but abandoned pretty much every idea that made the first Crysis one of the best games of this generation.

FEAR 2 - again, a solid shooter in its own right, but nowhere near the quality of the first game.

BioShock - after everyone talked this game up so much, I was rather disappointed with the unsatisfying core gameplay of this game, as well as the poor end to the story.

Shivering Isles - I must be one of the few people that loved Oblivion even in its vanilla state, but the Shivering Isles expansions didn't do it for me. I disliked the weird setting, and especially in the later phases of the main storyline, the quests started turning into tedious fetch chores.

GTA IV - yet again, this game is in no way bad, and I rather enjoyed it. However, seeing as the previous generation of GTA games (excluding VC maybe) were among my favourite games of that era, GTA IV was a disappointment in that it was 'merely' a good game that I didn't find particularly memorable.

Mirror's Edge - people at SW tend to imply this is a hidden gem, and while its setting and design are memorable and qualitative, the core gameplay is just too weak. The game is way too short, and the flow of the game is constantly interrupted by pointless combat sequences, lame environmental puzzles and imprecisions in the control scheme. The scores this game got are totally fair.

Half-Life 2 Episode 1 - seemed to me like it was just stretching a game that already overstayed its welcome the first time.

New Super Mario Bros. Wii - a rather boring 2D platformer that tries very little to push the genre forward.

Men of War: Vietnam - took an interesting approach, but was a huge step down in quality compared to Assault Squad.

Rainbow Six: Vegas - not a bad game, but an insult to fans of the old RB6 games.

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#47 TheShadowLord07
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only resistance and gta4. not bad games though. but my main problem with gta was it not being fun and lack of a garage(i really dont like the 2 limit parking system. i want to keep multiple cars)

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#48 Maroxad
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[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

[QUOTE="LordRork"]

Dragon Age: Origins - Just too much of a hardcore RPG for me. It turns into a long, soulless grind.

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That describes Dragon Age Origins quite well. Minus the hardcore RPG part. Compared to many RPGs I have played it was pretty darn casual.

Here is what defines a hardcore rpg for me.

  1. Choices with potentially devestating consequences that the game doesnt warn you about beforehand.
  2. Permadeath that are not scripted. Characters can permadie during normal gameplay.
  3. 6 or more party members.
  4. A game world that potentially fights back.
  5. No threat system, enemies usually go after the targets that are the easiest to kill, usually the mages.
  6. 0 level scaling.
  7. Many ways to die (starvation, disentigration, falling into lava, drowning, sleep deprivation, choking ect)
  8. Deadly traps.
  9. No or very slow (as in it takes days to get back to full life) regeneration, in fact healing should be very limited.
  10. Starvation and thirst.
  11. Heavy resource management. Especially casters. They should not be able to fling spells every turn.
  12. Enemies that can kill your party members in about 2-3 hits.
  13. Varied enemy and encounter design, to avoid making combat too predictable.
  14. Limited inventory.
  15. Disease and poison which will weaken attributes and just kill a character outright if it doesnt get cured quickly enough, the damage caused by both should preferably be permanent.

Does an RPG with all those features even exist?:P

Yeah, I messed up a bit there. Should have stated here are typical features. I cant think of a single RPG with all of them, however, I can think of several RPGs that have over 50% of them.

Roguelikes: 1+2+4+5+7+8+10+11+12+13+14+15 (doesnt have 3, 6 and 9) But even with the case of 9 for roguelikes, there is the whole matter of starvation, if you were to run around trying to get full health after each and every battle chances are, you would starve to death.
Fire Emblem: Thracia 776: 2+3+4+5+6+9+11+12+13+14

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Aliens Vs Predator why is it too much to ask for a good AVP game please someone somewhere do something with the licence please!!!!!!!!!!!

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#50 LordRork
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That describes Dragon Age Origins quite well. Minus the hardcore RPG part. Compared to many RPGs I have played it was pretty darn casual.

Here is what defines a hardcore rpg for me.

Maroxad

OK, you win this round ;) . But all the various "layers" of attributes to assign - skills, talents and then the crafting on top just got too much for me. I like the core mechanics (and speaking protagonist) of DA2 much better, even if the recycled scenery let the game down overall.