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#1  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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Likes

Games are bigger and badder than before. Tons of games. Lots of competition. Lots of variety. Games are affordable, go on sale fast. Indies.

Dislikes

In-game purchases, micro transactions. Arcades are dead. Consoles lost their plug and play nature. Day 1 patches. It seems like AA and A games don't really exist anymore. It's either AAA or bust. Incomplete games.

So those are my qualms. What about you, SW?

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#2  Edited By UssjTrunks
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Likes:

Scale: Massive games like TW3 are possible now due to advances in technology.

Writing: Devs are paying more attention to narrative these days.

Dislikes:

Simplification: Most games are really easy nowadays to appeal to a broader audience.

Cinematic experiences: There are a lot of movie games coming out that are designed to be better watched than played.

Microtransactions/Games as a service: No explanation needed.

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#3  Edited By TryIt
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the gamers

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#4  Edited By lamprey263
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The gaming community in general, becoming the biggest body of whiners that hate everything fun.

The gaming press, which for half this gen would just shamelessly echo the day's topics and opinions on NeoGAF.

Gaming YouTube channels, they started off with good intentions but now just pander to their rabid fan bases (again, modern gamers that hate everything).

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#5  Edited By deactivated-601cef9eca9e5
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Likes:

  • There is definitely an epic scale with games and you can see this in games like Skyrim, The Witcher 3 and Fallout 3/4
  • If a game has a rough launch, patches/ updates can really turn it around. We have seen this with Diablo III and with Final Fantasy: Realm Reborn to name a few
  • Graphics have finally caught up with the narrative in games giving us some serious eye candy in games

Dislikes:

  • I cannot stand microstransactions or play to win concepts which are a blight in gaming
  • I am not a fan of DLC- I think that we should have a somewhat complete game at launch with expansions just like the old days
  • I am against yearly franchises like Call of Duty and Assassin's Creed because I feel like it hinders invoation
  • I absolutely hate subscription models

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#6  Edited By UssjTrunks
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@lamprey263 said:

The gaming community in general, becoming the biggest body of whiners that hate everything fun.

The gaming press, which for half this gen would just shamelessly echo the day's topics and opinions on NeoGAF.

Gaming YouTube channels, they started off with good intentions but now just pander to their rabid fan bases (again, modern gamers that hate everything).

The gaming community has never been less critical. This is why devs like EA, Ubisoft, and Activision can pump out terrible, unfinished games year after year and the masses will consume them.

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#7 Starshine_M2A2
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Toxic communities and short single player games. I would love to see a return to longer FPS campaigns from the days of FEAR. That’s the last one I can remember that had a full length SP mode. But with that particular genre so focused on MP these days, I doubt it will happen.

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#8 deactivated-5b34e33748e47
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Like: Huge world, better graphics, scale, lot of things to do

Dislike: Repetition, simplified design, Too easy, a lot of hand holding, less games in genre I'm actually interested in, forced online, lack of split screen micro-transaction, loot boxes, not every games need to be open world.

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#9 deactivated-642321fb121ca
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Is it just me or are modern games more likely filled with filler crap to make up game time? I just completed HZD with mostly everything completed, but more than half of the 65H was doing shitty repetative bandit camps, corruption zones and pointless crappy collectables.

Swear to god it wasn't this bad back in the day.

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#10 jun_aka_pekto
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I don't get the repetitive part. All games are repetitive whether it's the core mechanics or gameplay.

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#11 LoganX77
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Likes:

Games look amazing now. Story telling has come along way. Much larger worlds

Dislikes:

Microtranactions, Hollywood SJW culture infecting games.

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#12 so_hai
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Games are too target-marketed these days, which means they're less likely to surprise you or transform into new sub-genres.

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#13 shellcase86
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Dislike: Meaningless loading screens. The majority of games I play take a minute or two to get through the opening montage of credits/licensing/xyz studio & productions before you can select to start a new game or continue from your last save.

That stated, why is it necessary for me to go to the main menu and select to load or start my game and then have to endure a loading screen after my selection? Can they not program the software to load in the background during these meaningless image splashes while the game is booting?

Disclaimer: I am no programmer or game whiz, so what I state may not be possible.

Disclaimer #2: Not a master race PC gamer. Yes, I know that's what I get for console gaming. Thanks for sharing, though.

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#14  Edited By cainetao11
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I like the story telling possibilities in modern gaming. I enjoy a fun story to motivate me playing through the game as much as anyone but I need to enjoy playing, i.e. interacting with the game. I enjoy how great games look and some of the great open world "go anywhere" strength of current games. I also love online chatting and teaming up and playing socially. It is a wonderful time to be gaming imo.

I could go on about micro transactions and day 1 patches and blah blah but the thing I hate most is the divisiveness in the gaming community as a whole. The vitriol and hate over what another plays games on is absurdly serious to many it seems. I mean I get a kick out of the teasing at times but there seems to be more and more idiots that can't wrap their mind around the truth that what you like isn't GOOD, its just what you like.

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#15  Edited By Pedro
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Likes

  • The majority of games look great or simply stellar
  • Better controls

Dislikes

  • Too much open world games
  • Games are too large and filled with busy work instead of meaningful additions to the core game
  • Too much cutscenes
  • More focus on non gameplay elements
  • Gaming media is garbage and have a tendency of being bandwagoon riders exhibit A this site
  • Gamers complaining about the phantom SJW. I hear and see more from the complainers than anything from this supposed SJW group they keep complaining about.
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#16 mojito1988
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Likes: Too many great games to choose from, not enough time to play them all.

Dislikes: Too many great games to choose from, not enough time to play them all.

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#17 CRUSHER88
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Good: I think the variety of quality games in all genres is what I have enjoyed most so far. You have seen bigger publishers like EA and Ubisoft embrace games like Unravel and Valiant Hearts. Telltale came out swinging with TWD, really allowing that style of game to breakout (eventually leading to Square and Life is Strange).

Bad: The painful focus on games as a service. So many AAA games these days are built on some grand multi-year plan. Obviously, part of that plan includes MT out the ass, tiny expansions that cost $20+, etc. I find myself waiting over a year for complete editions at half price.

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#18 blueinheaven
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Like: excellent graphics really add to immersion. Open worlds are great and they have become a bit blase but devs will soon find a 'next step' for open world games beyond being just open and we will love it.

Dislike: microtransactions in ALL forms can just **** off. The indie explosion of games with really ugly and horribly dated graphics being considered 'art' shows just how f***ing stupid people have become. Bugs: where do we start? Kingdom Come Deliverance now has people on youtube channels explaining why their buggy piece of shit is 'acceptable' and reprimanding anyone who finds bugs that wouldn't get past alpha in other games a problem. This shit has to stop. Gamers are turning into an extension of publishers marketing departments, they are turkeys voting for f***ing Christmas! Assholes.

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#19 stuff238
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DISLIKE: We STILL don't have fully destructible environments despite developers promising us this. PS2/Xbox games like Black, Burnout 3 and Destroy all humans had me hyped for PS3/360. STILL didn't get them. PS4/xbone come out and The closest thing we have is Tom Clancys Rainbow Six Seige. But the levels are tiny. They are literally just houses. NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

And I have no faith at all in Crackdown 3. That game is vaporware.

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#20 ConanTheStoner
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Like: Games.

Dislike: Gamers.

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Likes: good graphics and controls

Dislikes: gamers

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#23 Paradocs
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@SolidGame_basic:

Likes: Graphics, Variety, Online Gaming

Dislikes: Too many hand holding elements, not enough focus on gameplay, pay to win, lack off multiplayer split screen games, and DLC.. There's more I just can't think of everything right now. lol

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#24 Ant_17
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Like

The variety thanks to indie devs.

Dislike

FPS horror games.

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#25 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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Dislikes: This current generation is worst in gaming since 1800's

Likes: My computer is nice/.

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#26 nintendoboy16
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@Pedro said:

Likes

  • The majority of games look great or simply stellar
  • Better controls

Dislikes

  • Too much open world games
  • Games are too large and filled with busy work instead of meaningful additions to the core game
  • Too much cutscenes
  • More focus on non gameplay elements
  • Gaming media is garbage and have a tendency of being bandwagoon riders exhibit A this site
  • Gamers complaining about the phantom SJW. I hear and see more from the complainers than anything from this supposed SJW group they keep complaining about.

The one thing I agree with Pedro on. Someone check the temperature in hell, please?

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#27 SOedipus  Online
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@nintendoboy16 said:
@Pedro said:

Likes

  • The majority of games look great or simply stellar
  • Better controls

Dislikes

  • Too much open world games
  • Games are too large and filled with busy work instead of meaningful additions to the core game
  • Too much cutscenes
  • More focus on non gameplay elements
  • Gaming media is garbage and have a tendency of being bandwagoon riders exhibit A this site
  • Gamers complaining about the phantom SJW. I hear and see more from the complainers than anything from this supposed SJW group they keep complaining about.

The one thing I agree with Pedro on. Someone check the temperature in hell, please?

I haven't seen anyone complaining about you guys in awhile.

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#28  Edited By QuadKnight
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Likes:

Lots of games to choose from thanks to indies and generally good quality AAA games.

Great graphics. Most games look really good nowadays even better than some the CG we used to see during the early days of the 3D era.

VR. I'm so happy it's finally a reality this gen and it has really given me some of the best gaming experiences I've ever had in my 29 years of gaming.

Dislikes:

Mincrotransactions. I hate the fact that shitty publishers like EA, Ubisoft, etc. try to scam us with lootboxes and incomplete games.

The Destiny-like MP experience. Tons of bullet sponge enemies and shallow shitty gameplay/story sprinkled with a lot of hype and marketing. (see The Division. Destiny 2, etc.)

How every modern game tries to add in a multiplayer mode even when it's not needed and doesn't suit the game's style or narrative.

AAA Open-world galore. Every AAA game nowadays is trying to be open world even games that would benefit way more from smaller maps (see MGSV)

SJWs and politicians trying to push their agendas and screw with my games. Guys, I'm all about social justice and equal rights but please keep politics away from my games.

Battle Royale. It hasn't happened yet but I'm pretty sure every AAA shooter for the next decade is probably gonna dive deep into the whole battle royale craze. I'm okay with this as long as it doesn't affect the quality of the rest of the game. I'm not a big battle royale fan.

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#29  Edited By outworld222
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Likes: great ideas.

Dislikes: no innovation.

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#30 jdc6305
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I'm an old fart. I hate anything to do with online connectivity. Multiplayer dlc microtransactions season passes day one patches I hate it all. So much so I've only purchased one new game this past year Monster Hunter. I'm also getting annoyed with open world games. I hate grinding and collecting useless stuff scattered all over the place. I purchased Monster Hunter but I haven't played it. I'm put off by the grinding.

My likes are I'm holding out for good single player games like Last of Us 2 Bayonetta 3 and Metroid Prime 4.

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#31 VFighter
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@ConanTheStoner: Nailed it.

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#32  Edited By kemar7856
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too easy
dlc

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#33 PrincessGomez92
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Like: the wide variety of games.

Dislike: microtransactions, always online, waiting for huge downloads and installs before I can play a game, no more plug in and play.

Modern gaming has made me miss the Wii a lot, so I've been playing Wii games and it's awesome not having to wait for an update to download or for it to install, I can just put in a game and play. The tech may be outdated today, but I love it regardless. And I miss the controller innovation of the Wii.

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#34 nepu7supastar7
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@SolidGame_basic:

LIKES: Graphics look spectacular. Gameplay is more stable.

DISLIKES: Overbearing and overpriced DLC. Games are releasing half-assed and forcing you to buy DLC or wait months to years of constant updating. Constant updates keep adding more to the size of the game. Buying physical no longer save space because EVERY game has to install. Most games are multiplayer online only. Online multiplayer games existing with zero replay value otherwise.

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#35  Edited By KungfuKitten
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LIKES More innovation in games than we've had since the experimental age of gaming. More genres than ever being catered to. Classic PC RPG's, Point and Click Adventures, many new types of puzzlegames, topdown/sidescrolling smups, beat m ups, construction and management, survival games, battle royale, etc. The rise of Kickstarter games and Indie games means budget games and mid-tier games are back for a vengeance. Nintendo is keeping hardware innovations alive (Valve too). VR is an exciting tech and am looking forward how it will improve. Seemingly faster cycles through themes than we used to have (WW2 anyone?).

DISLIKES Some genres are still dead. Mainly talking about God Games. It was my favorite genre. But also things like Tactical Shooters, Tribes. The random toxicity in multiplayer games causes me to no longer play certain games. My other dislikes all have to do with the 'monetization' of games so it's really one thing. I don't like them preying on gambling addiction with lootboxes and trying to cover it all up for the government without actually doing something about it. Aside from that, lootboxes are a very bad deal for the customer not being able to even buy what you wanted even though you are giving them money. Gating purchases behind fake currencies sucks. Season passes without content description suck. Always online connection sucks. Retailer exclusive content sucks. Pre-order incentives suck. Konami sucks, EA sucks, Activision sucks, Bungie sucks, Blizzard sucks. Their patents on underhanded manipulation tactics to deceive the customers suck. Temporarily available DLC sucks. Cosmetic DLC being 'acceptable' is a sad thing. It could be OK, sure, if the pricing was remotely reasonable but it rarely ever is. An outfit costs 1/5th of the price of the game that took them years to make with over 50 people? Really?!

Luckily you can ignore the companies doing these things. Because of the above they are becoming less relevant every year. And then you can still have an absolute blast in gaming.

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#36 hrt_rulz01
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@quadknight said:

Likes:

Lots of games to choose from thanks to indies and generally good quality AAA games.

Great graphics. Most games look really good nowadays even better than some the CG we used to see during the early days of the 3D era.

VR. I'm so happy it's finally a reality this gen and it has really given me some of the best gaming experiences I've ever had in my 29 years of gaming.

Dislikes:

Mincrotransactions. I hate the fact that shitty publishers like EA, Ubisoft, etc. try to scam us with lootboxes and incomplete games.

The Destiny-like MP experience. Tons of bullet sponge enemies and shallow shitty gameplay/story sprinkled with a lot of hype and marketing. (see The Division. Destiny 2, etc.)

How every modern game tries to add in a multiplayer mode even when it's not needed and doesn't suit the game's style or narrative.

AAA Open-world galore. Every AAA game nowadays is trying to be open world even games that would benefit way more from smaller maps (see MGSV)

SJWs and politicians trying to push their agendas and screw with my games. Guys, I'm all about social justice and equal rights but please keep politics away from my games.

Battle Royale. It hasn't happened yet but I'm pretty sure every AAA shooter for the next decade is probably gonna dive deep into the whole battle royale craze. I'm okay with this as long as it doesn't affect the quality of the rest of the game. I'm not a big battle royale fan.

Wow, I think this is the first time I actually agree with most of what you posted.

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#38 Basinboy
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Likes: Post-launch content (always nice to have new reasons to return to a game)

Dislike: Content excluded from base game in order to sell it as DLC (which happens in 95% of games).

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#39 BenjaminBanklin
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Likes:

Games are more ambitious than ever, sporting some attractive engines to try and get your attention.

No one is number one forever in the console space. You mess up, you lose your spot. Keeps platform makers on their toes

Some IPs are actually getting better over generations

Games can be patched on the fly without having to buy a new version

The indie scene blossoming more. Now people can get more specialized games they like

Dislikes:

Obnoxious game and patch file sizes (I'm looking at YOU, MS)

GaaS and microtransaction bullshit and the people who damage control it

Games being announced too early, but that's nothing new

E3 - It creates a black hole of gaming news around it every year. I wish publishers would spread the news out more for the year, not just for the one event

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#40 poe13
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Online-only, DLC, season passes, microtransactions, EA, and everyone who defends any of these things are ruining gaming for me.

Graphics and gameplay have improved so so much though. DOOM, Overwatch, Dark Souls 3, Cuphead, Forza Horizon 3, Arkham Knight all look stunning to me.

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#42 KillzoneSnake
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I hate all the cinematics, SJW virus, noob online games, casuals dominate gaming now, DLC, pay for online, milk milk milk. Forget gaming lmao i quit soon.

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#43 dalger21
Member since 2002 • 2231 Posts

Likes:
Digital Downloads, Pre-loading, Wireless gaming

Dislikes:
Microtransactions, DLC

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#44  Edited By deactivated-5d1e44cf96229
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Likes:

  • Online gaming allowing me to play with my friends from a different city at any time.
  • Room-scale VR is really awesome.

Dislikes:

  • Too much focus on cinematics.
  • Too much political correctness and SJW bullshit infecting games.
  • Too much hand holding.
  • Microtransactions
  • Developers padding their games with boring filler time wasters just to make their games longer. I'd rather a game be short and fun the entire way through than long but feels like a chore to get through.
  • Not enough focus on the types of games that I'm interested in especially from the big developers.
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#46 Epak_
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The word toxic.

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#47 drummerdave9099
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I dislike having to pay for Xbox Live and PS+

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#48  Edited By reaperinthyname
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Likes:

Tons of variety

Graphics

AAA production value

Epic set pieces

Storytelling (like in Uncharted or The Last of Us)

Dislikes:

Once something takes off, they will milk it until it bleeds.

Bad practices with microtransactions

Lack of original ideas

Requiring to be online even in singleplayer (in some occasions)

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#49 br0kenrabbit
Member since 2004 • 18092 Posts

This may sound strange coming from someone who loves Simulation games that use the whole keyboard, and tons of SHIFT+ and CTRL+ combos, but too many games are coming out with way too complex control schemes. I had to replay the opening tutorial bit on Shadow of Mordor more than a few times...tap this button, or hold it to do something else entirely.

Simulations where you're controlling a machine (plane, helicopter, sub, mech, etc.) are different, because the primary focus of a sim IS controlling your machine. But when I want to play a dude running around killing things and climbing walls I don't want to have to remember 40 different commands.

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#50 dxmcat
Member since 2007 • 3385 Posts

@UssjTrunks said:
@lamprey263 said:

The gaming community in general, becoming the biggest body of whiners that hate everything fun.

The gaming press, which for half this gen would just shamelessly echo the day's topics and opinions on NeoGAF.

Gaming YouTube channels, they started off with good intentions but now just pander to their rabid fan bases (again, modern gamers that hate everything).

The gaming community has never been less critical. This is why devs like EA, Ubisoft, and Activision can pump out terrible, unfinished games year after year and the masses will consume them.

Everyone always forgets what Pop music is. :D