What can Sony do not to be percieved as a complete FAILURE this gen?

business lose and gain money all the time. Look at M$. ff7isnumbaone

True. But so far, for Sony, PS3 has been an unprofitible venture. Has sold below expectations. It even had to compete with the GBA, and isn't even selling faster than the Gamecube.

[QUOTE="ff7isnumbaone"]business lose and gain money all the time. Look at M$. Vanadium2k8

True. But so far, for Sony, PS3 has been an unprofitible venture. Has sold below expectations. It even had to compete with the GBA, and isn't even selling faster than the Gamecube.

this gen isn't over yet?

the gamecube can't sales can't get any higher but the ps3 sales can

[QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"]

[QUOTE="ff7isnumbaone"]business lose and gain money all the time. Look at M$. Tnasty11

True. But so far, for Sony, PS3 has been an unprofitible venture. Has sold below expectations. It even had to compete with the GBA, and isn't even selling faster than the Gamecube.

this gen isn't over yet?

the gamecube can't sales can't get any higher but the ps3 sales can

[QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"]

[QUOTE="ff7isnumbaone"]business lose and gain money all the time. Look at M$. Tnasty11

True. But so far, for Sony, PS3 has been an unprofitible venture. Has sold below expectations. It even had to compete with the GBA, and isn't even selling faster than the Gamecube.

this gen isn't over yet?

the gamecube can't sales can't get any higher but the ps3 sales can

True. But how much blind faith can you actually put for the PS3 to magically just start selling? :|

[QUOTE="l-_-l"][QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"]

[QUOTE="warmaster670"]

[QUOTE="gomanthethird"]How can you go from selling 120 million PS2's and having a commanding lead in marketshare to .... the PS3, and not be percieved as a complete failure?Vanadium2k8

ask nintendo, they failed for 10 years

Sorry, they were actually profitable, so asking them is asking how to fail at failing.

Uhh. No. :|

PS3 is a failure, because it lost Sony billions. N64 and Gamecube are successes because it made Nintendo, billions. Simple, no?

No, this is system wars (welcome slow one to the club), everybody uses sales, so thats what we are going to stick to here. So no. Nintendo failed for ten years. So once again, deal with it and move on. No reason in getting upset about facts. Stop trying to twist it to fit your bill. Just be happy your crappy (lol that rhymed) wii is in first place now. Nintendo obviously learned something in those ten years of failure. Focus on that (seeing it is a positive thing), and not Nintendos past ten years. I don't ever see Nintendo reclaiming their SNES days. l-_-l

If we go by sales figures, PS3 is still a failure because it's selling slower than the Gamecube, and DEFINITELY slower than the N64. TCHBO.

[QUOTE="l-_-l"][QUOTE="gomanthethird"][QUOTE="l-_-l"]

[QUOTE="gomanthethird"]How can you go from selling 120 million PS2's and having a commanding lead in marketshare to .... the PS3, and not be percieved as a complete failure?gomanthethird

[QUOTE="l-_-l"]:lol: this clearly coming from a blind fanboy. Thanks, but no thanks. Your opinion as a fanboy is worthless to me. Fanboyism is like a disease and I want no part of it. Go watch 28 days later. I am one of the survivors running for my life and the rage is the fanboys.Vanadium2k8

Okay, so how is this considered a decent rebuttal? Another thread, another poor attempt at cows to debate. TCHBO.

If that was the case, then the movie industry would be in a world of hurt, so you deal with it because you are wrong. Just because thats the way you feel about it, doesn't make it the way it is. Hell the automotive industry would be in a world of hurt if it was the way you think it is. l-_-l

Both the movie and automobile industries are expanding, what are you on about?

[QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"][QUOTE="l-_-l"]:lol: this clearly coming from a blind fanboy. Thanks, but no thanks. Your opinion as a fanboy is worthless to me. Fanboyism is like a disease and I want no part of it. Go watch 28 days later. I am one of the survivors running for my life and the rage is the fanboys.l-_-l

Okay, so how is this considered a decent rebuttal? Another thread, another poor attempt at cows to debate. TCHBO.

Cows refuse to accept the PS3 has failed. And you're no better :lol:

[QUOTE="l-_-l"]No, this is system wars (welcome slow one to the club), everybody uses sales, so thats what we are going to stick to here. So no. Nintendo failed for ten years. So once again, deal with it and move on. No reason in getting upset about facts. Stop trying to twist it to fit your bill. Just be happy your crappy (lol that rhymed) wii is in first place now. Nintendo obviously learned something in those ten years of failure. Focus on that (seeing it is a positive thing), and not Nintendos past ten years. I don't ever see Nintendo reclaiming their SNES days. Vanadium2k8

If we go by sales figures, PS3 is still a failure because it's selling slower than the Gamecube, and DEFINITELY slower than the N64. TCHBO.

PS3 sales can surpass them why? because ps3 has to option to go higher while theirs say the same

[QUOTE="l-_-l"]No, this is system wars (welcome slow one to the club), everybody uses sales, so thats what we are going to stick to here. So no. Nintendo failed for ten years. So once again, deal with it and move on. No reason in getting upset about facts. Stop trying to twist it to fit your bill. Just be happy your crappy (lol that rhymed) wii is in first place now. Nintendo obviously learned something in those ten years of failure. Focus on that (seeing it is a positive thing), and not Nintendos past ten years. I don't ever see Nintendo reclaiming their SNES days. Vanadium2k8

If we go by sales figures, PS3 is still a failure because it's selling slower than the Gamecube, and DEFINITELY slower than the N64. TCHBO.

[QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"]

[QUOTE="l-_-l"]No, this is system wars (welcome slow one to the club), everybody uses sales, so thats what we are going to stick to here. So no. Nintendo failed for ten years. So once again, deal with it and move on. No reason in getting upset about facts. Stop trying to twist it to fit your bill. Just be happy your crappy (lol that rhymed) wii is in first place now. Nintendo obviously learned something in those ten years of failure. Focus on that (seeing it is a positive thing), and not Nintendos past ten years. I don't ever see Nintendo reclaiming their SNES days. Tnasty11

If we go by sales figures, PS3 is still a failure because it's selling slower than the Gamecube, and DEFINITELY slower than the N64. TCHBO.

PS3 sales can surpass them why? because ps3 has to option to go higher while theirs say the same

What are you on about? N64 sold 11 million in its first year, and it didn't stop there. :|

[QUOTE="l-_-l"]If that was the case, then the movie industry would be in a world of hurt, so you deal with it because you are wrong. Just because thats the way you feel about it, doesn't make it the way it is. Hell the automotive industry would be in a world of hurt if it was the way you think it is. Vanadium2k8

Both the movie and automobile industries are expanding, what are you on about?

[QUOTE="Tnasty11"][QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"]

[QUOTE="l-_-l"]No, this is system wars (welcome slow one to the club), everybody uses sales, so thats what we are going to stick to here. So no. Nintendo failed for ten years. So once again, deal with it and move on. No reason in getting upset about facts. Stop trying to twist it to fit your bill. Just be happy your crappy (lol that rhymed) wii is in first place now. Nintendo obviously learned something in those ten years of failure. Focus on that (seeing it is a positive thing), and not Nintendos past ten years. I don't ever see Nintendo reclaiming their SNES days. Vanadium2k8

If we go by sales figures, PS3 is still a failure because it's selling slower than the Gamecube, and DEFINITELY slower than the N64. TCHBO.

PS3 sales can surpass them why? because ps3 has to option to go higher while theirs say the same

What are you on about? N64 sold 11 million in its first year, and it didn't stop there. :|

[QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"]

[QUOTE="l-_-l"]No, this is system wars (welcome slow one to the club), everybody uses sales, so thats what we are going to stick to here. So no. Nintendo failed for ten years. So once again, deal with it and move on. No reason in getting upset about facts. Stop trying to twist it to fit your bill. Just be happy your crappy (lol that rhymed) wii is in first place now. Nintendo obviously learned something in those ten years of failure. Focus on that (seeing it is a positive thing), and not Nintendos past ten years. I don't ever see Nintendo reclaiming their SNES days. l-_-l

If we go by sales figures, PS3 is still a failure because it's selling slower than the Gamecube, and DEFINITELY slower than the N64. TCHBO.

If we compare consoles of the last few gens, to the consoles of the same gen. Then Nintendo must've been a massive success when N64 and Gamecube sold more than the Saturn and Dreamcast.

[QUOTE="l-_-l"][QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"][QUOTE="l-_-l"]:lol: this clearly coming from a blind fanboy. Thanks, but no thanks. Your opinion as a fanboy is worthless to me. Fanboyism is like a disease and I want no part of it. Go watch 28 days later. I am one of the survivors running for my life and the rage is the fanboys.Vanadium2k8

Okay, so how is this considered a decent rebuttal? Another thread, another poor attempt at cows to debate. TCHBO.

Cows refuse to accept the PS3 has failed. And you're no better :lol:

[QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"][QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"]

[QUOTE="l-_-l"]No, this is system wars (welcome slow one to the club), everybody uses sales, so thats what we are going to stick to here. So no. Nintendo failed for ten years. So once again, deal with it and move on. No reason in getting upset about facts. Stop trying to twist it to fit your bill. Just be happy your crappy (lol that rhymed) wii is in first place now. Nintendo obviously learned something in those ten years of failure. Focus on that (seeing it is a positive thing), and not Nintendos past ten years. I don't ever see Nintendo reclaiming their SNES days. Tnasty11

If we go by sales figures, PS3 is still a failure because it's selling slower than the Gamecube, and DEFINITELY slower than the N64. TCHBO.

PS3 sales can surpass them why? because ps3 has to option to go higher while theirs say the same

What are you on about? N64 sold 11 million in its first year, and it didn't stop there. :|

Seeing as the PS3 is last place and barely selling, I doubt it can even reach the number of the N64 in it's lifetime. Give up on the PS3 guys.

what? i am saying the N64 and GC sales numbers CANNOT go any higher while the ps3 sales numbers canTnasty11

Well, duh?

The question is if it can surpass them or not. It hasn't happened yet, so for now, we can consider it a failure.

Thats because it hasn't failed. I am glade you fanboys think it has, but the truth is, it hasn't. It just isn't doing as well as some had expected.l-_-l

Yes it has failed. Sheesh, you cows keep bragging about how the Gamecube and N64 failed and then say the PS3 hasn't? If that isn't fanboyism than I don't know what is :lol:

[QUOTE="l-_-l"][QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"]

[QUOTE="l-_-l"]No, this is system wars (welcome slow one to the club), everybody uses sales, so thats what we are going to stick to here. So no. Nintendo failed for ten years. So once again, deal with it and move on. No reason in getting upset about facts. Stop trying to twist it to fit your bill. Just be happy your crappy (lol that rhymed) wii is in first place now. Nintendo obviously learned something in those ten years of failure. Focus on that (seeing it is a positive thing), and not Nintendos past ten years. I don't ever see Nintendo reclaiming their SNES days. Vanadium2k8

If we go by sales figures, PS3 is still a failure because it's selling slower than the Gamecube, and DEFINITELY slower than the N64. TCHBO.

If we compare consoles of the last few gens, to the consoles of the same gen. Then Nintendo must've been a massive success when N64 and Gamecube sold more than the Saturn and Dreamcast.

[QUOTE="Tnasty11"][QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"][QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"]

[QUOTE="l-_-l"]No, this is system wars (welcome slow one to the club), everybody uses sales, so thats what we are going to stick to here. So no. Nintendo failed for ten years. So once again, deal with it and move on. No reason in getting upset about facts. Stop trying to twist it to fit your bill. Just be happy your crappy (lol that rhymed) wii is in first place now. Nintendo obviously learned something in those ten years of failure. Focus on that (seeing it is a positive thing), and not Nintendos past ten years. I don't ever see Nintendo reclaiming their SNES days. ILurvDemCats

If we go by sales figures, PS3 is still a failure because it's selling slower than the Gamecube, and DEFINITELY slower than the N64. TCHBO.

PS3 sales can surpass them why? because ps3 has to option to go higher while theirs say the same

What are you on about? N64 sold 11 million in its first year, and it didn't stop there. :|

Seeing as the PS3 is last place and barely selling, I doubt it can even reach the number of the N64 in it's lifetime. Give up on the PS3 guys.

One thing that killed off the Dreamcast and N64 is the lack of development support, and games.

Gee sure sounds like the PS3. Playstation 3 has no games. Just Tomb Raider rehashes and ports that are on the Xbox 360. That was money well spent, cows.

Funny how you keep trying to twist it your way, yet keep failing at doing so. You forgot two VERY important consoles in that there list (go figure). The PS1 and PS2. Which whipped Nintendos ass.l-_-l

And the Wii is whopping the PS3's ass. :|

*Waits for pathetic "Wii doesn't count :cry:" excuses*

[QUOTE="ILurvDemCats"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"][QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"][QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"]

[QUOTE="l-_-l"]No, this is system wars (welcome slow one to the club), everybody uses sales, so thats what we are going to stick to here. So no. Nintendo failed for ten years. So once again, deal with it and move on. No reason in getting upset about facts. Stop trying to twist it to fit your bill. Just be happy your crappy (lol that rhymed) wii is in first place now. Nintendo obviously learned something in those ten years of failure. Focus on that (seeing it is a positive thing), and not Nintendos past ten years. I don't ever see Nintendo reclaiming their SNES days. l-_-l

If we go by sales figures, PS3 is still a failure because it's selling slower than the Gamecube, and DEFINITELY slower than the N64. TCHBO.

PS3 sales can surpass them why? because ps3 has to option to go higher while theirs say the same

What are you on about? N64 sold 11 million in its first year, and it didn't stop there. :|

Seeing as the PS3 is last place and barely selling, I doubt it can even reach the number of the N64 in it's lifetime. Give up on the PS3 guys.

No it isn't. Infact the 360 software sales are through the roof. How many PS3 games do people buy each month? 100? 200?

It is even outselling the PS3 in terms of hardware. Look at the NPDs.

R.I.P PS3. You shall be missed (not really).

One thing that killed off the Dreamcast and N64 is the lack of development support, and games.

Gee sure sounds like the PS3. Playstation 3 has no games. Just Tomb Raider rehashes and ports that are on the Xbox 360. That was money well spent, cows.

ILurvDemCats

WTF? lemmings and sheep was saying that since early 07 and you are still saying that Wow

[QUOTE="l-_-l"]Thats because it hasn't failed. I am glade you fanboys think it has, but the truth is, it hasn't. It just isn't doing as well as some had expected.Vanadium2k8

Yes it has failed. Sheesh, you cows keep bragging about how the Gamecube and N64 failed and then say the PS3 hasn't? If that isn't fanboyism than I don't know what is :lol:

[QUOTE="ILurvDemCats"]

One thing that killed off the Dreamcast and N64 is the lack of development support, and games.

Gee sure sounds like the PS3. Playstation 3 has no games. Just Tomb Raider rehashes and ports that are on the Xbox 360. That was money well spent, cows.

Tnasty11

WTF? lemmings and sheep was saying that since early 07 and you are still saying that Wow

Name one PS3 game that justifies a $499 purchase? There is none. You have NO games. Not one at all. Enjoy playing NOTHING AT ALL....NOTHING AT ALL.....NOTHING AT ALL.

Well DOH!!!! we say the N64 and gamecube failed because those gens are over and it is known FACT that they did fail. The PS3 has only been out a little over a year and is selling better than the 360, yet you can't comprehend that the PS3 hasn't failed. Only thing failing here is your logic.l-_-l

So PS3 hasn't failed because you still have blind faith in it? I see.

[QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"][QUOTE="l-_-l"]Thats because it hasn't failed. I am glade you fanboys think it has, but the truth is, it hasn't. It just isn't doing as well as some had expected.l-_-l

Yes it has failed. Sheesh, you cows keep bragging about how the Gamecube and N64 failed and then say the PS3 hasn't? If that isn't fanboyism than I don't know what is :lol:

Want a tissue? PS3 is dead, get over it.

[QUOTE="l-_-l"][QUOTE="ILurvDemCats"]

Seeing as the PS3 is last place and barely selling, I doubt it can even reach the number of the N64 in it's lifetime. Give up on the PS3 guys.

ILurvDemCats

No it isn't. Infact the 360 software sales are through the roof. How many PS3 games do people buy each month? 100? 200?

It is even outselling the PS3 in terms of hardware. Look at the NPDs.

R.I.P PS3. You shall be missed (not really).

I did take the total sales of each console and divide it by the number of days. It is doing worse than the 360, Dreamcast,and Gamecube.

PS3 is dead. Let the angels sing!

Sorry, but you=fail. We are talking hardware sales, not software sales (and god if we was, the wii would be in last place). Do the math son. Take the total sales of each console, then divide it by the number of days that console has been out. l-_-l

LMFAO, Cows making fun of Wii software sales.

How many PS3 games were in the Top 10 NPDs again? :roll: (Hint: NONE)

How many PS3 games were in the Top 30 Media Create? :roll: (Hint: 1)

How many PS3 games were in the Top 40 UK Software charts? :roll: (Hint: 4, compared to Wii's 15, and Xbox 360's 7).

[QUOTE="l-_-l"][QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"][QUOTE="l-_-l"]Thats because it hasn't failed. I am glade you fanboys think it has, but the truth is, it hasn't. It just isn't doing as well as some had expected.ILurvDemCats

Yes it has failed. Sheesh, you cows keep bragging about how the Gamecube and N64 failed and then say the PS3 hasn't? If that isn't fanboyism than I don't know what is :lol:

Want a tissue? PS3 is dead, get over it.

[QUOTE="l-_-l"]Sorry, but you=fail. We are talking hardware sales, not software sales (and god if we was, the wii would be in last place). Do the math son. Take the total sales of each console, then divide it by the number of days that console has been out. Vanadium2k8

LMFAO, Cows making fun of Wii software sales.

How many PS3 games were in the Top 10 NPDs again? :roll: (Hint: NONE)

How many PS3 games were in the Top 30 Media Create? :roll: (Hint: 1)

How many PS3 games were in the Top 40 UK Software charts? :roll: (Hint: 4, compared to Wii's 15, and Xbox 360's 7).

this that for the whole last year? NOPE

[QUOTE="l-_-l"]Funny how you keep trying to twist it your way, yet keep failing at doing so. You forgot two VERY important consoles in that there list (go figure). The PS1 and PS2. Which whipped Nintendos ass.Vanadium2k8

And the Wii is whopping the PS3's ass. :|

*Waits for pathetic "Wii doesn't count :cry:" excuses*

i hada psone and a ps2 but sony failed with ps3 since the begining!

1-sony tried to convince gamers that CG videos of killzone2 and motorstorm were ingame! 3 years later we can see the "real quality" of the games. Are they soooo better than the 360 games??? No....they are not as good as the 360 games.

2-The gamepad is the same since the psone! thats a lazzy. simply they didnt try to inovate.

3-PS3 came out long after xbox360 and the hardware are similar...it don´t make sense!

4-the price....

for sure, this gen the xbox360 is the best choise!!!!

I did take the total sales of each console and divide it by the number of days. It is doing worse than the 360, Dreamcast,and Gamecube.ILurvDemCats

Had you have actually done the math, like actually done the math, rather then dream of doing it, you'd have come to this conclusion:

360: 20,934.8 sales per day

Ps3: 21,774.1 sales per day

Dreamcast (based on entire cycle): 2,946.6 sales per day

But yeah, you "did" the math.

[QUOTE="l-_-l"]Well DOH!!!! we say the N64 and gamecube failed because those gens are over and it is known FACT that they did fail. The PS3 has only been out a little over a year and is selling better than the 360, yet you can't comprehend that the PS3 hasn't failed. Only thing failing here is your logic.Vanadium2k8

So PS3 hasn't failed because you still have blind faith in it? I see.

this that for the whole last year? NOPETnasty11

Whole year? Are you trying to embarass yourself?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=227041

Japan Top 100 Games By Platform
DS - 59
PS2 - 18
Wii - 14
PSP - 5
PS3 - 4

USA Top 10 2007:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6184847.html

However, both were for the PS2, with no PS3 or PSP games climbing into the top 10.

gamespot

ILurvDemCats

I did take the total sales of each console and divide it by the number of days. It is doing worse than the 360, Dreamcast,and Gamecube.

PS3 is dead. Let the angels sing!

i hada psone and a ps2 but sony failed with ps3 since the begining!

1-sony tried to convince gamers that CG videos of killzone2 and motorstorm were ingame! 3 years later we can see the "real quality" of the games. Are they soooo better than the 360 games??? No....they are not as good as the 360 games.

2-The gamepad is the same since the psone! thats a lazzy. simply they didnt try to inovate.

3-PS3 came out long after xbox360 and the hardware are similar...it don´t make sense!

4-the price....

for sure, this gen the xbox360 is the best choise!!!!

PAL360

3-PS3 came out long after xbox360 and the hardware are similar...it don´t make sense!PAL360

They aren't,

one features a standard dvd drive with port hd accessibity, that have actually have to upgrade to watch hd dvds on for some reason, and a hardware failure rate of over 30%, bad enough that they had to expand a warranty to 3 years, due to public outcry...

the other features a bluray player standard, different video card, different keyset, low failure rate, and works right out of the box...

They aren't similar.