What did sony do right?

[QUOTE="iBrodeo"][QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

Dude, I dont even think I can find a facepalm pic big enough for this.

What about MS and theyre crappy designed hardware? what about the fact they gouge you at every turn for their accesories? What about the fact they splintering their userbase by offering stuff only for GOLD membership? what about the fact MS is bleeding First party studios? What about the fact their relying mostly on Third Party? Trust me, MS screwed up plenty this gen.

XboximusPrime

No, but you like to tell yourself that PS3 was a failure for the most part, which deserves you amighty facepalm that I cant findbecause your fail is too epic.

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]kept a firm hold in other exclusives.khoofia_pika

In the long run those ended up not being big losses though, as (with the exception of GTAIV) all ended up being somewhat lackluster. Good, but still lackluster. By the way, correct me if I'm wrong, but GTAIV was never meant to be exclusive.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="iBrodeo"]The question was not about Microsoft though =) better keep that facepalm for yourself. 2 easy.iBrodeo

No, but you like to tell yourself that PS3 was a failure for the most part, which deserves you amighty facepalm that I cant findbecause your fail is too epic.

lol, dont flatter youself duder. you really think I would get that impacted by something a dude on the internetposted? PSN is not a Joke, its just not quite as good as Live, but by no means a Joke. The only thing the PS controller isnt good for is shooters, and even then their perfectly palyable on it, Bluray is taking off and its doing quite well, and its a selling point for the console, and i cant remember your other points off the top of my head, but im sure I can prove them wrong or at the very least not as bad as you say they are.

Strengthening of their western 1st party.

The Playstation 3 has gone from being a overpriced dust gather, too arguably the best gaming platform this gen.

What do you think was the biggest reason for this.

Vinegar_Strokes

Actually 360 is the best gaming platform to me, so you have to prove how PS3 is anything close to that for everyone, because it is not for me at all anything like that

Fable 3, Mass Effect 2 and Alan Wake are my main games in 2010, and none is on PS3

Also sales are far behind 360, games sales are far far behind 360 and Move sales are far behind Kinect ones too, also PS3 lost a vast percent of the 120 million PS2 gamers in the previous generation, so Sony actually did something extremely wrong imo

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="iBrodeo"] 5,000,000 gap is pretty far from neck and neck. The new redesigned XBOX is flying off the shelf and HALO has not even launched yet. The PS3 vs XBOX 360 gap will widen once again.iBrodeo

lol, you think Halo is that big of a syestem seller at this point? even with the new redesign, anyone who wanted Halo probaly already has a 360. Anyway, well wait and see. I still kinda think PS3 is gonna pass it eventually. And this gen going later then usual will only help that.

woh, I think someone is taking their XBOX love a little too seriously. What do you mean by "You guys"? Im not SONY (although, if Mr. Tretton is hiring for a nice chillax job that pays alot, im open :) ), I dont own Stock in SONY. I own both consoles, its just I think PS3 is going to pass it eventually. Strange huh, that a person who owns and likes both consoles alot thinks the PS3 is a great syestem. Unfathomable to be sure. I think your the one getting all worked up over something so stupid. Your acting like the PS3 killed your dog or something. That theyre the root of all evil and that theyre a joke this gen. Well, you can stick your fingers in your ears all you like and keep telling yourself that PS3 is a complete failure this gen, that wont make it true. Actually, I kinda feel sorry for you. Your defending to the death your one syestem and telling yourself that theyre couldnt possibly be anything better or as good on other consoles. See, with me, I get to enjoy all the great exclusives both get to offer. So while you only get to paly Halo and Gears, ill get to play halo, gears, uncharted, and killzone. Sounds like a better deal huh?

[QUOTE="donalbane"]I think they went from being leagues behind the competition, to neck and neck for 2nd place... but I think it was obviously the price drop. iBrodeo

[QUOTE="iBrodeo"][QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

lol, you think Halo is that big of a syestem seller at this point? even with the new redesign, anyone who wanted Halo probaly already has a 360. Anyway, well wait and see. I still kinda think PS3 is gonna pass it eventually. And this gen going later then usual will only help that.

XboximusPrime

woh, I think someone is taking their XBOX love a little too seriously. What do you mean by "You guys"? Im not SONY (although, if Mr. Tretton is hiring for a nice chillax job that pays alot, im open :) ), I dont own Stock in SONY. I own both consoles, its just I think PS3 is going to pass it eventually. Strange huh, that a person who owns and likes both consoles alot thinks the PS3 is a great syestem. Unfathomable to be sure. I think your the one getting all worked up over something so stupid. Your acting like the PS3 killed your dog or something. That theyre the root of all evil and that theyre a joke this gen. Well, you can stick your fingers in your ears all you like and keep telling yourself that PS3 is a complete failure this gen, that wont make it true. Actually, I kinda feel sorry for you. Your defending to the death your one syestem and telling yourself that theyre couldnt possibly be anything better or as good on other consoles. See, with me, I get to enjoy all the great exclusives both get to offer. So while you only get to paly Halo and Gears, ill get to play halo, gears, uncharted, and killzone. Sounds like a better deal huh?

Actually the best deal is playing on all systems and a non gaming PC, like i do

[QUOTE="iBrodeo"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I think they went from being leagues behind the competition, to neck and neck for 2nd place... but I think it was obviously the price drop. XboximusPrime

lol, you think Halo is that big of a syestem seller at this point? even with the new redesign, anyone who wanted Halo probaly already has a 360. Anyway, well wait and see. I still kinda think PS3 is gonna pass it eventually. And this gen going later then usual will only help that.

Lowered the price, created the Slim, more exclusives, more advertising, etc.

[QUOTE="iBrodeo"][QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

lol, you think Halo is that big of a syestem seller at this point? even with the new redesign, anyone who wanted Halo probaly already has a 360. Anyway, well wait and see. I still kinda think PS3 is gonna pass it eventually. And this gen going later then usual will only help that.

TintedEyes

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"][QUOTE="iBrodeo"]You think PS3 will eventually pass XBOX 360? PS3 is not catching up this gen, it won't happen and yes the redesigned slim is widening the gap as we talk. Do I think HALO is a system seller? The franchise is the reason you guys are in third place for starters. HALO3 alone has sold more copies than all the PS3 exclusives combined....scary huh? You fanboys can't win when it comes to PS3 vs XBOX 360 because you are 3rd place sore losers. The SONY Loyalists are so used to riding high for TWO gens, they can still not wrap their collective heads around the fact that they have been left behind by the industry as a whole.The Poor ports of multiplats should have been enough alone to tell you the PS3 is a second class citizen this gen, the proverbial red headed stepchild of gaming. I don't ask you to believe or even care what I am saying, just know I am not the only one saying it.hellhund

And Kinect is around the corner :)

Butt i have seen worst from PS3 fanboys and their "superiority" complex

[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="tagyhag"]kept a firm hold in other exclusives.Ragnarok1051

Plus blu-ray, MGS4, HDD in all models, free online and first party exclusives.

The got humbled a bit in the beginning, and that was probably the best thing for them. Making kick *** exclusives that really show what the system can do was important. Price drops and new skus helped. Keeping the online free was good.

I think they've done much more right than wrong, personally.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="iBrodeo"] 5,000,000 gap is pretty far from neck and neck. The new redesigned XBOX is flying off the shelf and HALO has not even launched yet. The PS3 vs XBOX 360 gap will widen once again.hellhund

lol, you think Halo is that big of a syestem seller at this point? even with the new redesign, anyone who wanted Halo probaly already has a 360. Anyway, well wait and see. I still kinda think PS3 is gonna pass it eventually. And this gen going later then usual will only help that.

Maybe, again, what do we get out of X console outselling Y console. I already bought my consoles, I did my part to support the industry, now its up to the companys to keep me interested. The companys work for us, not the other way around.

Also, you can be a big fan of a console without calling the competition compelte garbage. While I liked my XBOX and PS2 alot more then I did the GC, I fully regonized theyre was some great games on GC. Its just the other two had more games I liked. Same thing with Genesis and SNES. I owned a SNES, but theyre was totaly stuff I wanted to paly on Genesis that I couldnt at the time because I could only get like one console.

Opinions may vary, but in my personal gaming experience, reality of things and educated opinion, Sony did and continue to do so many things wrong this gaming generation, that what ever single right thing they happen to do will not even be registered in the medulla oblongata no matter what.

[QUOTE="hellhund"][QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

lol, you think Halo is that big of a syestem seller at this point? even with the new redesign, anyone who wanted Halo probaly already has a 360. Anyway, well wait and see. I still kinda think PS3 is gonna pass it eventually. And this gen going later then usual will only help that.

XboximusPrime

Maybe, again, what do we get out of X console outselling Y console. I already bought my consoles, I did my part to support the industry, now its up to the companys to keep me interested. The companys work for us, not the other way around.

woh, I think someone is taking their XBOX love a little too seriously. What do you mean by "You guys"? Im not SONY (although, if Mr. Tretton is hiring for a nice chillax job that pays alot, im open :) ), I dont own Stock in SONY. I own both consoles, its just I think PS3 is going to pass it eventually. Strange huh, that a person who owns and likes both consoles alot thinks the PS3 is a great syestem. Unfathomable to be sure. I think your the one getting all worked up over something so stupid. Your acting like the PS3 killed your dog or something. That theyre the root of all evil and that theyre a joke this gen. Well, you can stick your fingers in your ears all you like and keep telling yourself that PS3 is a complete failure this gen, that wont make it true. Actually, I kinda feel sorry for you. Your defending to the death your one syestem and telling yourself that theyre couldnt possibly be anything better or as good on other consoles. See, with me, I get to enjoy all the great exclusives both get to offer. So while you only get to paly Halo and Gears, ill get to play halo, gears, uncharted, and killzone. Sounds like a better deal huh?

XboximusPrime

Opinions may vary, but in my personal gaming experience, reality of things and educated opinion, Sony did and continue to do so many things wrong this gaming generation, that what ever single right thing they happen to do will not even be registered in the medulla oblongata no matter what.

reanimatedchamp

[QUOTE="reanimatedchamp"]

Opinions may vary, but in my personal gaming experience, reality of things and educated opinion, Sony did and continue to do so many things wrong this gaming generation, that what ever single right thing they happen to do will not even be registered in the medulla oblongata no matter what.

iBrodeo

[QUOTE="reanimatedchamp"]

Opinions may vary, but in my personal gaming experience, reality of things and educated opinion, Sony did and continue to do so many things wrong this gaming generation, that what ever single right thing they happen to do will not even be registered in the medulla oblongata no matter what.

iBrodeo

[QUOTE="iBrodeo"][QUOTE="reanimatedchamp"]

Opinions may vary, but in my personal gaming experience, reality of things and educated opinion, Sony did and continue to do so many things wrong this gaming generation, that what ever single right thing they happen to do will not even be registered in the medulla oblongata no matter what.

Ragnarok1051

[QUOTE="iBrodeo"][QUOTE="reanimatedchamp"]

Opinions may vary, but in my personal gaming experience, reality of things and educated opinion, Sony did and continue to do so many things wrong this gaming generation, that what ever single right thing they happen to do will not even be registered in the medulla oblongata no matter what.

TintedEyes

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]kept a firm hold in other exclusives.khoofia_pika

Lol yet none of those have been sony exclusives in the past ccept from a couple here and there and its awfully fragmented FF7 and 8 are multiplats before anyone else says otherwisexD.

GTA's multiplat

RE has been multiplat since the dawn of the dinosaur

FF has nevver been exclusive

DMC aint been exclusive since 3.

I'm sure we can all agree the turning point was MGS4.

Silverbond

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

I'm sure we can all agree the turning point was MGS4.

omho88

really TC? the last time i checked based on AAA titles, Online and game library the xbox 360 was the best gaming platform this generation followed by PS3 then the Wii.

or has their been a Coup?

[QUOTE="omho88"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

I'm sure we can all agree the turning point was MGS4.

iBrodeo

it'll most likely be cell based tech even tho they sold their share unless they go down a powerPC route next gen and just throw a beast of a quad core on it and be done with it xD.

But for a while dev's have been warming to the cell the problem was that it was a diffrent approach to how you programmed the game as the SPU's are entirely diffrent from those of the main core in structureand thus the code is diffrent.The main problem was at the start of the gen devs would load all the GPU powah on the RSX which is a weaker card than the 360's but the cell can bridge it.

Devs didnt approach cell correct till Naughty dog showed how it should be done with uncharted 1, and the devs started following suit using some of the idea's ND used when it came to doing the meat and potatoes of the game code.Since then PS3 games have been pretty much eqaul to their 360 counterparts.It was only that devs werent happy cause it meant they had to do something a little diffrent to yeild the same results.Te cells and underestimated chip in some area's its a good little piece of kit in the right hands it just takes the skill and knowledge.

• they lowered the price
• they made games people actually wanted to play

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="iBrodeo"]Well said and fully agreed with. I did have a PS3 for quite some time this gen, the last game I beat on it was God of War 3. The SONY Loyalists cannot accept the dire reality that is their PS3. The PS3 is honestly the least enjoyable console I have ever owned.....and that is not fanboy talk, thats ex PS3 owner talk.iBrodeo

I'm sure we can all agree the turning point was MGS4.

I will just post what imo Sony did wrong

1. Release a year after 360, with a worst GPU and almost double price

2. Did not have many games to begin with, still has given me only one title i loved hugely, Demon Soul and has very few games of the quality i like that iwant to buy(long, deep, varied ones)

What is Sony doing wrong

3. It is copying Wii controls, when 360 has next gen Kinect technology, need extra hardware for more than one gamers

4. Is still double the price of the 149$ Arcade 360 model

So, they could easilly turn the tables with some effort, like abandon all those short linear exclusives and make more games like Demon Soul, where on earth is my Demon Soul 2 ? Why would i bother with all the announced racers and shooters ? I barely like racing and shooting

I will just post what imo Sony did wrong

1. Release a year after 360, with a worst GPU and almost double price

2. Did not have many games to begin with, still has given me only one title i loved hugely, Demon Soul and has very few games of the quality i like that iwant to buy(long, deep, varied ones)

What is Sony doing wrong

3. It is copying Wii controls, when 360 has next gen Kinect technology, need extra hardware for more than one gamers

4. Is still double the price of the 149$ Arcade 360 model

So, they could easilly turn the tables with some effort, like abandon all those short linear exclusives and make more games like Demon Soul, where on earth is my Demon Soul 2 ? Why would i bother with all the announced racers and shooters ? I barely like racing and shooting

a_simple_gamer

[QUOTE="a_simple_gamer"]

I will just post what imo Sony did wrong

1. Release a year after 360, with a worst GPU and almost double price

2. Did not have many games to begin with, still has given me only one title i loved hugely, Demon Soul and has very few games of the quality i like that iwant to buy(long, deep, varied ones)

What is Sony doing wrong

3. It is copying Wii controls, when 360 has next gen Kinect technology, need extra hardware for more than one gamers

4. Is still double the price of the 149$ Arcade 360 model

So, they could easilly turn the tables with some effort, like abandon all those short linear exclusives and make more games like Demon Soul, where on earth is my Demon Soul 2 ? Why would i bother with all the announced racers and shooters ? I barely like racing and shooting

hellhund

Ok, just make as many Demon Souls as racers and shooters though

Xbox 360 has a huge number of RPGs, why not PS3 too ?

Imagine a RPG GOW3, that would be a reason to keep a PS3 by itself

Right now, the main PS3 game for me is Demon Soul and maybe FF13vs is added later (that is a huge maybe)

Last Guardian seems very promising too and i will definatly buy the new Gimbli JRPG, but does not look something very different than Tales or ES so far

The only weapon PS3 had against Mass Effect and Fable is Demon Soul, and that game does not get a sequel

That is the major thing Sony is doing wrong right now imo

I will just post what imo Sony did wrong

1. Release a year after 360, with a worst GPU and almost double price

2. Did not have many games to begin with, still has given me only one title i loved hugely, Demon Soul and has very few games of the quality i like that iwant to buy(long, deep, varied ones)

What is Sony doing wrong

3. It is copying Wii controls, when 360 has next gen Kinect technology, need extra hardware for more than one gamers

4. Is still double the price of the 149$ Arcade 360 model

So, they could easilly turn the tables with some effort, like abandon all those short linear exclusives and make more games like Demon Soul, where on earth is my Demon Soul 2 ? Why would i bother with all the announced racers and shooters ? I barely like racing and shooting

[QUOTE="hellhund"][QUOTE="a_simple_gamer"]

I will just post what imo Sony did wrong

1. Release a year after 360, with a worst GPU and almost double price

2. Did not have many games to begin with, still has given me only one title i loved hugely, Demon Soul and has very few games of the quality i like that iwant to buy(long, deep, varied ones)

What is Sony doing wrong

3. It is copying Wii controls, when 360 has next gen Kinect technology, need extra hardware for more than one gamers

4. Is still double the price of the 149$ Arcade 360 model

So, they could easilly turn the tables with some effort, like abandon all those short linear exclusives and make more games like Demon Soul, where on earth is my Demon Soul 2 ? Why would i bother with all the announced racers and shooters ? I barely like racing and shooting

a_simple_gamer

Ok, just make as many Demon Souls as racers and shooters though

Xbox 360 has a huge number of RPGs, why not PS3 too ?

Imagine a RPG GOW3, that would be a reason to keep a PS3 by itself

Right now, the main PS3 game for me is Demon Soul and maybe FF13vs is added later (that is a huge maybe)

Last Guardian seems very promising too and i will definatly buy the new Gimbli JRPG, but does not look something very different than Tales or ES so far

The only weapon PS3 had against Mass Effect and Fable is Demon Soul, and that game does not get a sequel

That is the major thing Sony is doing wrong right now imo

[QUOTE="hellhund"][QUOTE="a_simple_gamer"]

I will just post what imo Sony did wrong

1. Release a year after 360, with a worst GPU and almost double price

2. Did not have many games to begin with, still has given me only one title i loved hugely, Demon Soul and has very few games of the quality i like that iwant to buy(long, deep, varied ones)

What is Sony doing wrong

3. It is copying Wii controls, when 360 has next gen Kinect technology, need extra hardware for more than one gamers

4. Is still double the price of the 149$ Arcade 360 model

So, they could easilly turn the tables with some effort, like abandon all those short linear exclusives and make more games like Demon Soul, where on earth is my Demon Soul 2 ? Why would i bother with all the announced racers and shooters ? I barely like racing and shooting

Ok, just make as many Demon Souls as racers and shooters though

Xbox 360 has a huge number of RPGs, why not PS3 too ?

Imagine a RPG GOW3, that would be a reason to keep a PS3 by itself

Right now, the main PS3 game for me is Demon Soul and maybe FF13vs is added later (that is a huge maybe)

Last Guardian seems very promising too and i will definatly buy the new Gimbli JRPG, but does not look something very different than Tales or ES so far

The only weapon PS3 had against Mass Effect and Fable is Demon Soul, and that game does not get a sequel

That is the major thing Sony is doing wrong right now imo

[QUOTE="a_simple_gamer"]

I will just post what imo Sony did wrong

1. Release a year after 360, with a worst GPU and almost double price

2. Did not have many games to begin with, still has given me only one title i loved hugely, Demon Soul and has very few games of the quality i like that iwant to buy(long, deep, varied ones)

What is Sony doing wrong

3. It is copying Wii controls, when 360 has next gen Kinect technology, need extra hardware for more than one gamers

4. Is still double the price of the 149$ Arcade 360 model

So, they could easilly turn the tables with some effort, like abandon all those short linear exclusives and make more games like Demon Soul, where on earth is my Demon Soul 2 ? Why would i bother with all the announced racers and shooters ? I barely like racing and shooting

omho88

We can agree that lineup is personal opinion, but all i see is praise for the "hardcore" games on PS3, when in fact a hardcore game is a deep, long and varied game, like Zelda, Demon Soul, Mass Effect etc and 360 just has a far more huge lineup of such titles imo

Wii controls are terrible to me, hate holding two separate things in hand and with wires, Move is a bit better, but when Nav comes in it is as bad, that is why i consider Kinect far better myself, does not use anything other than hands or a standard pad, also Kinect is far more advanced and can have a million time more uses in games than Wii and Move actually, it offers full body immersion in a game, a first for a gaming system

The 149$ Arcade plays all, 100%, every and each one of Xbox 360 game library, a HDD is not needed at all if you have a USB memory stick that i doubt anyone is without these days, MS had a new patch that enabled USB sticks to be used as HDD, so a HDD is definatly not needed at all anymore, only for movies maybe or if you want to keep multiple games installed, again a 16GB stick can fit 3+ game installs

Also a new SlimArcade model has been confirmed to come later in the year, maybe keeping the 149$ price, even at 199$ would still be 100% functional and 100$ less than PS3

not making RPGS !!!!!!!! they are giving, racers, action shooters, platformers, hack and slash, car combat, 1st person shooters, HR ( i really dun know where it fits :P), open world games ....etc ......WOW, if that isn't enough for you, then what is??? if you are in love with RPGs, then go to the PC, why are you bothering with the consoles ?!omho88

I like RPGs best, then adventures, then startegy games

Anything else is just filler for me, that is all, i only play games like Gears or GOW for the art/setting, hate the gameplay in both for example

Frankly, if it was not for Lost Odyssey, Tales, Blue Dragon, Fable 2 etc andWitcher 2 confirmation for consoles, and nearly all PC RPGs beeing on my 360, i would have gone for PC, but now there is not a single PC only RPG i want, while there are multiple 360 RPGs i want, so i get everything with a 360, with ease of use and in the living room,why bother with PC ?

[QUOTE="omho88"] not making RPGS !!!!!!!! they are giving, racers, action shooters, platformers, hack and slash, car combat, 1st person shooters, HR ( i really dun know where it fits :P), open world games ....etc ......WOW, if that isn't enough for you, then what is??? if you are in love with RPGs, then go to the PC, why are you bothering with the consoles ?!a_simple_gamer

I like RPGs best, then adventures, then startegy games

Anything else is just filler for me, that is all, i only play games like Gears or GOW for the art/setting, hate the gameplay in both for example

Frankly, if it was not for Lost Odyssey, Tales, Blue Dragon, Fable 2 etc andWitcher 2 confirmation for consoles, and nearly all PC RPGs beeing on my 360, i would have gone for PC, but now there is not a single PC only RPG i want, while there are multiple 360 RPGs i want, so i get everything with a 360, with ease of use and in the living room,why bother with PC ?

[QUOTE="omho88"][QUOTE="a_simple_gamer"]

I will just post what imo Sony did wrong

1. Release a year after 360, with a worst GPU and almost double price

2. Did not have many games to begin with, still has given me only one title i loved hugely, Demon Soul and has very few games of the quality i like that iwant to buy(long, deep, varied ones)

What is Sony doing wrong

3. It is copying Wii controls, when 360 has next gen Kinect technology, need extra hardware for more than one gamers

4. Is still double the price of the 149$ Arcade 360 model

So, they could easilly turn the tables with some effort, like abandon all those short linear exclusives and make more games like Demon Soul, where on earth is my Demon Soul 2 ? Why would i bother with all the announced racers and shooters ? I barely like racing and shooting

We can agree that lineup is personal opinion, but all i see is praise for the "hardcore" games on PS3, when in fact a hardcore game is a deep, long and varied game, like Zelda, Demon Soul, Mass Effect etc and 360 just has a far more huge lineup of such titles imo

Wii controls are terrible to me, hate holding two separate things in hand and with wires, Move is a bit better, but when Nav comes in it is as bad, that is why i consider Kinect far better myself, does not use anything other than hands or a standard pad, also Kinect is far more advanced and can have a million time more uses in games than Wii and Move actually, it offers full body immersion in a game, a first for a gaming system

The 149$ Arcade plays all, 100%, every and each one of Xbox 360 game library, a HDD is not needed at all if you have a USB memory stick that i doubt anyone is without these days, MS had a new patch that enabled USB sticks to be used as HDD, so a HDD is definatly not needed at all anymore, only for movies maybe or if you want to keep multiple games installed, again a 16GB stick can fit 3+ game installs

Also a new SlimArcade model has been confirmed to come later in the year, maybe keeping the 149$ price, even at 199$ would still be 100% functional and 100$ less than PS3

[QUOTE="omho88"] not making RPGS !!!!!!!! they are giving, racers, action shooters, platformers, hack and slash, car combat, 1st person shooters, HR ( i really dun know where it fits :P), open world games ....etc ......WOW, if that isn't enough for you, then what is??? if you are in love with RPGs, then go to the PC, why are you bothering with the consoles ?!a_simple_gamer

I like RPGs best, then adventures, then startegy games

Anything else is just filler for me, that is all, i only play games like Gears or GOW for the art/setting, hate the gameplay in both for example

Frankly, if it was not for Lost Odyssey, Tales, Blue Dragon, Fable 2 etc andWitcher 2 confirmation for consoles, and nearly all PC RPGs beeing on my 360, i would have gone for PC, but now there is not a single PC only RPG i want, while there are multiple 360 RPGs i want, so i get everything with a 360, with ease of use and in the living room,why bother with PC ?

[QUOTE="a_simple_gamer"]

[QUOTE="omho88"] not making RPGS !!!!!!!! they are giving, racers, action shooters, platformers, hack and slash, car combat, 1st person shooters, HR ( i really dun know where it fits :P), open world games ....etc ......WOW, if that isn't enough for you, then what is??? if you are in love with RPGs, then go to the PC, why are you bothering with the consoles ?!hellhund

I like RPGs best, then adventures, then startegy games

Anything else is just filler for me, that is all, i only play games like Gears or GOW for the art/setting, hate the gameplay in both for example

Frankly, if it was not for Lost Odyssey, Tales, Blue Dragon, Fable 2 etc andWitcher 2 confirmation for consoles, and nearly all PC RPGs beeing on my 360, i would have gone for PC, but now there is not a single PC only RPG i want, while there are multiple 360 RPGs i want, so i get everything with a 360, with ease of use and in the living room,why bother with PC ?

Actually Witcher was canned, because they wanted to focus on Withcer 2 for all systems as they confirmed many times

It seems like a sure bet to me, all others are already coming to 360, so i dont see why not this one, the developers are not crazy to loose millions

And i have little desire to unplug my PC and move it in the middle of the living room, and then figure out how on earth i will play with a keyboard and mouse in a couch etc and then have to move the PC back to my desk for work

It is just too much work to put in, when all i want is just play a game, that i can do in seconds on my 360, without moving my work PC an inch

[QUOTE="a_simple_gamer"]

[QUOTE="omho88"] not making RPGS !!!!!!!! they are giving, racers, action shooters, platformers, hack and slash, car combat, 1st person shooters, HR ( i really dun know where it fits :P), open world games ....etc ......WOW, if that isn't enough for you, then what is??? if you are in love with RPGs, then go to the PC, why are you bothering with the consoles ?!omho88

I like RPGs best, then adventures, then startegy games

Anything else is just filler for me, that is all, i only play games like Gears or GOW for the art/setting, hate the gameplay in both for example

Frankly, if it was not for Lost Odyssey, Tales, Blue Dragon, Fable 2 etc andWitcher 2 confirmation for consoles, and nearly all PC RPGs beeing on my 360, i would have gone for PC, but now there is not a single PC only RPG i want, while there are multiple 360 RPGs i want, so i get everything with a 360, with ease of use and in the living room,why bother with PC ?

You mean PS3/360 combo, which i already have

What PC RPG game i cant play on my 360 ? I can play Fable 2, Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Tales, etc on PC

BTW, Demon Soul is my main PS3 RPG, FF13vs is a wait and see (hated FF13) and Gimbli JRPG looks great, but too much like ES and Tales for now, i doubt i will ever play a game called Atelier Rorona btw

[QUOTE="omho88"][QUOTE="a_simple_gamer"]

I like RPGs best, then adventures, then startegy games

Anything else is just filler for me, that is all, i only play games like Gears or GOW for the art/setting, hate the gameplay in both for example

Frankly, if it was not for Lost Odyssey, Tales, Blue Dragon, Fable 2 etc andWitcher 2 confirmation for consoles, and nearly all PC RPGs beeing on my 360, i would have gone for PC, but now there is not a single PC only RPG i want, while there are multiple 360 RPGs i want, so i get everything with a 360, with ease of use and in the living room,why bother with PC ?

You mean PS3/360 combo, which i already have

What PC RPG game i cant play on my 360 ? I can play Fable 2, Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Tales, etc on PC

BTW, Demon Soul is my main PS3 RPG, FF13vs is a wait and see (hated FF13) and Gimbli JRPG looks great, but too much like ES and Tales for now, i doubt i will ever play a game called Atelier Rorona btw

you still look at this from ur point of view. first of all the definition of hardcore games vary widely and very contraversial, so you can't say exclude games like GOW3, U2, infamous ...etc from being hardcore while picking up the game you like (mostly non-Sony games from what i am seeing) as hardcore. Again you are stating ur opinion about the Wii and apply them for the Move. Let's talk facts here, Wii mote is successful and there is a huge chance for Move to do so, it just needs good pricing and games to be worth it, i can tell Sony can make wonders with games coz it has massive first party support, but the price is still high imo. Kinect use is very limited in games, for further info, watch the latest MS confrence, it was very funny watching what they wanna sell us as games :lol: . The x360 waihout HDD is still useless, coz no downloadable live games can be played. right ? I saw you in the oher thread exciting about Dust and Limbo, How could you play them without HDD?. USB support is limited to certain types of USB storage meduims at 16 GB max !! Finally the cheaper price comes with less capabilities and less functinality ..... you can't bend the truth.omho88

Kinect has a far better launch lineup than Move imo, if you call Kinect launh lineup bad, then you should see Move one

As for the future, noone knows what will be used, how, and in which games, Sorcery looks iteresting indeed, but if they use Kinect in Fable 3, will be far more interesting than anything for me, Milo too

Again, a 360 with a USB stick has the full functionality of one with a HDD, you can download games from Live and play them on USB, and up to 16GB of them too !!!! So, no, you are not right actually

I dont bend the truth, you just think i bend it, when in fact it is the absolute truth, check it on google if you like