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#101 a_simple_gamer
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[QUOTE="a_simple_gamer"]

[QUOTE="omho88"] i guess you right but the thing is all these games are 2-3 years old .... so what are you intending to do in the future ??? here is a link to another thread to show you where ur future of RPGs lies :D http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27377548&tag=topics%3Btitle so in the future PS3/PC would be the perfect combo for you.omho88

You mean PS3/360 combo, which i already have

What PC RPG game i cant play on my 360 ? I can play Fable 2, Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Tales, etc on PC

BTW, Demon Soul is my main PS3 RPG, FF13vs is a wait and see (hated FF13) and Gimbli JRPG looks great, but too much like ES and Tales for now, i doubt i will ever play a game called Atelier Rorona btw

ohhh, so since you realize that PS3/x360 combo is the best deal, why are complaining about the PS3 again ? :P .

Who complained about PS3 ? The last few months has become one of my best systems, mainly due to Demon Soul

I only defend 360 against the hordes of PS3 fanboys that suggest it is the second coming and so much better than 360, when for me it is 360 that has far more games i like, ones like Demon Soul, than PS3

My gaming is like 90% on 360 so far, all those years since its launch, PS3 definatly does not compare to that yet, but is definatly in the right direction

Of course, that is just my opinion based on what stuff i like best, which is definatly not the linear short games like Uncharted for example

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#102 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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Best Blu-Ray player (well one of em) PSP connectivity, free online, great exclusives

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#103 omho88
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[QUOTE="omho88"] you still look at this from ur point of view. first of all the definition of hardcore games vary widely and very contraversial, so you can't say exclude games like GOW3, U2, infamous ...etc from being hardcore while picking up the game you like (mostly non-Sony games from what i am seeing) as hardcore. Again you are stating ur opinion about the Wii and apply them for the Move. Let's talk facts here, Wii mote is successful and there is a huge chance for Move to do so, it just needs good pricing and games to be worth it, i can tell Sony can make wonders with games coz it has massive first party support, but the price is still high imo. Kinect use is very limited in games, for further info, watch the latest MS confrence, it was very funny watching what they wanna sell us as games :lol: . The x360 waihout HDD is still useless, coz no downloadable live games can be played. right ? I saw you in the oher thread exciting about Dust and Limbo, How could you play them without HDD?. USB support is limited to certain types of USB storage meduims at 16 GB max !! Finally the cheaper price comes with less capabilities and less functinality ..... you can't bend the truth.a_simple_gamer

Kinect has a far better launch lineup than Move imo, if you call Kinect launh lineup bad, then you should see Move one

As for the future, noone knows what will be used, how, and in which games, Sorcery looks iteresting indeed, but if they use Kinect in Fable 3, will be far more interesting than anything for me, Milo too

Again, a 360 with a USB stick has the full functionality of one with a HDD, you can download games from Live and play them on USB, and up to 16GB of them too !!!! So, no, you are not right actually

I dont bend the truth, you just think i bend it, when in fact it is the absolute truth, check it on google if you like

from ur post, it's so obvious that you didn't watch MS confrence .... and if you did and liked Natal , then good for you, but if you really think Sony is wrong in its strategy then you are simply a fanboy. i can't really take Natal seriously, with the games they showed. Of course i can't persuade you, since you obviously liked kinanimals :P . And the USB thing isn't practical at all, or why do you think MS made the new x360 with 250 GB HDD ?!!.... again x360 without HDD isn't pretty useless. ..... btw, i didn't manage to understand how you can work out ur USB and HDD thing ?! final statment, from ur posts, i can conclude that you are supporting MS blindly ... ur first statment regarding Natal line up is enough.
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#104 omho88
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[QUOTE="omho88"][QUOTE="a_simple_gamer"] ohhh, so since you realize that PS3/x360 combo is the best deal, why are complaining about the PS3 again ? :P .a_simple_gamer

Who complained about PS3 ? The last few months has become one of my best systems, mainly due to Demon Soul

I only defend 360 against the hordes of PS3 fanboys that suggest it is the second coming and so much better than 360, when for me it is 360 that has far more games i like, ones like Demon Soul, than PS3

My gaming is like 90% on 360 so far, all those years since its launch, PS3 definatly does not compare to that yet, but is definatly in the right direction

Of course, that is just my opinion based on what stuff i like best, which is definatly not the linear short games like Uncharted for example

That's great thing to hear considering ur previous post in this same thread about the PS3.

I will just post what imo Sony did wrong

1. Release a year after 360, with a worst GPU and almost double price

2. Did not have many games to begin with, still has given me only one title i loved hugely, Demon Soul and has very few games of the quality i like that iwant to buy(long, deep, varied ones)

What is Sony doing wrong

3. It is copying Wii controls, when 360 has next gen Kinect technology, need extra hardware for more than one gamers

4. Is still double the price of the 149$ Arcade 360 model

So, they could easilly turn the tables with some effort, like abandon all those short linear exclusives and make more games like Demon Soul, where on earth is my Demon Soul 2 ? Why would i bother with all the announced racers and shooters ? I barely like racing and shooting

a_simple_gamer

Do you like anything on the PS3 aside from DS ???

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#105 a_simple_gamer
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Do you like anything on the PS3 aside from DS ???

omho88

I liked GOW3, Heavy Rain, Heavenly Sword, Mosnter Kingdom, but nowhere as much as DS, and all of them were rents for me, expept Monster Kingdoms

I plan to buy GOW3 and maybe Heavy Rain after a good price drop though

Definatly plan to get Last Guardian, maybe FF13vs and definatly Gimbli JRPG, maybe The Journey on PSN too and Sorcery with MOve later, unless i like LBP2 and get it earlier

The problem with PS3 is that i do not have main games to wait for, like i do with Fable 3, Mass Effect 3 on 360, Demon Soul 2, that would be such one,is not announced

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#106 omho88
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[QUOTE="a_simple_gamer"]

[QUOTE="omho88"]

Do you like anything on the PS3 aside from DS ???

I liked GOW3, Heavy Rain, Heavenly Sword, Mosnter Kingdom, but nowhere as much as DS, and all of them were rents for me, expept Monster Kingdoms

I plan to buy GOW3 and maybe Heavy Rain after a good price drop though

Definatly plan to get Last Guardian, maybe FF13vs and definatly Gimbli JRPG, maybe The Journey on PSN too and Sorcery with MOve later, unless i like LBP2 and get it earlier

The problem with PS3 is that i do not have main games to wait for, like i do with Fable 3, Mass Effect 3 on 360, Demon Soul 2, that would be such one,is not announced

hmmm, ur opnions are really intresting .... they are easliy disposable from what i see, i thought you said you hate short linear games, and in the next post you said you like GOW3, HS which were shorter and even linear than U2 !!!! ... may be it's just my mind Fable 3 is on PC, ME3 isn't even announced, it's like waiting for GOW4 or U3 !!!! another strange thing, you said the PS3 doen't have any games to wait for, But if you checked the line just above it, you said "Definatly plan to get Last Guardian, maybe FF13vs and definatly Gimbli JRPG, maybe The Journey on PSN too and Sorcery with MOve later, unless i like LBP2 and get it earlier" that's 6-7 PS3 exclusives. there is a big !!! on my head now .... ur post is sign worthy.
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#107 NaveedLife
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

What Sony did right was Playstation 1 and Playstation 2. Sony´s brand name is still incredibly strong and imo is the main reason why so many ppl got a PS3 in the first 2 years. Now, it´s a great system but nowhere close to 360 or PC.

TintedEyes

even though its tied in high scoring exclusives/ ok

Actually Sony has the most high ranking exclusives out of the 3.

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#108 a_simple_gamer
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[QUOTE="a_simple_gamer"]

[QUOTE="omho88"]

Do you like anything on the PS3 aside from DS ???

omho88

I liked GOW3, Heavy Rain, Heavenly Sword, Mosnter Kingdom, but nowhere as much as DS, and all of them were rents for me, expept Monster Kingdoms

I plan to buy GOW3 and maybe Heavy Rain after a good price drop though

Definatly plan to get Last Guardian, maybe FF13vs and definatly Gimbli JRPG, maybe The Journey on PSN too and Sorcery with MOve later, unless i like LBP2 and get it earlier

The problem with PS3 is that i do not have main games to wait for, like i do with Fable 3, Mass Effect 3 on 360, Demon Soul 2, that would be such one,is not announced

hmmm, ur opnions are really intresting .... they are easliy disposable from what i see, i thought you said you hate short linear games, and in the next post you said you like GOW3, HS which were shorter and even linear than U2 !!!! ... may be it's just my mind Fable 3 is on PC, ME3 isn't even announced, it's like waiting for GOW4 or U3 !!!! another strange thing, you said the PS3 doen't have any games to wait for, But if you checked the line just above it, you said "Definatly plan to get Last Guardian, maybe FF13vs and definatly Gimbli JRPG, maybe The Journey on PSN too and Sorcery with MOve later, unless i like LBP2 and get it earlier" that's 6-7 PS3 exclusives. there is a big !!! on my head now .... ur post is sign worthy.

GOW3 was not shorter than Uncharted 2, and it is the setting,art that i like, that is why i consider buying it later in the first place

Fable 3 is on PC, so what does that mean ? I dont have a gaming PC, and will get it on 360

Mass Effect 3 is announced, the whole trilogy was announced back then

I never said PS3 has no games to wait for, i will buy some games most definatly, all i said is that it does not have major for me games like Mass Effect 3 and Fable 3, games that i would buy a system for, that is

Demon Soul 2 would be such a game

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#109 omho88
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[QUOTE="a_simple_gamer"]

[QUOTE="omho88"][QUOTE="a_simple_gamer"]

I liked GOW3, Heavy Rain, Heavenly Sword, Mosnter Kingdom, but nowhere as much as DS, and all of them were rents for me, expept Monster Kingdoms

I plan to buy GOW3 and maybe Heavy Rain after a good price drop though

Definatly plan to get Last Guardian, maybe FF13vs and definatly Gimbli JRPG, maybe The Journey on PSN too and Sorcery with MOve later, unless i like LBP2 and get it earlier

The problem with PS3 is that i do not have main games to wait for, like i do with Fable 3, Mass Effect 3 on 360, Demon Soul 2, that would be such one,is not announced

hmmm, ur opnions are really intresting .... they are easliy disposable from what i see, i thought you said you hate short linear games, and in the next post you said you like GOW3, HS which were shorter and even linear than U2 !!!! ... may be it's just my mind Fable 3 is on PC, ME3 isn't even announced, it's like waiting for GOW4 or U3 !!!! another strange thing, you said the PS3 doen't have any games to wait for, But if you checked the line just above it, you said "Definatly plan to get Last Guardian, maybe FF13vs and definatly Gimbli JRPG, maybe The Journey on PSN too and Sorcery with MOve later, unless i like LBP2 and get it earlier" that's 6-7 PS3 exclusives. there is a big !!! on my head now .... ur post is sign worthy.

GOW3 was not shorter than Uncharted 2, and it is the setting,art that i like, that is why i consider buying it later in the first place

Fable 3 is on PC, so what does that mean ? I dont have a gaming PC, and will get it on 360

Mass Effect 3 is announced, the whole trilogy was announced back then

I never said PS3 has no games to wait for, i will buy some games most definatly, all i said is that it does not have major for me games like Mass Effect 3 and Fable 3, games that i would buy a system for, that is

Demon Soul 2 would be such a game

you are great with words manipulation but that failed you in the last couple of posts .... anyway, i see now what you are coming from. DS2 is definitly coming soon, just like U3 and probabely both before ME3.
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#110 a_simple_gamer
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[QUOTE="a_simple_gamer"]

[QUOTE="omho88"] hmmm, ur opnions are really intresting .... they are easliy disposable from what i see, i thought you said you hate short linear games, and in the next post you said you like GOW3, HS which were shorter and even linear than U2 !!!! ... may be it's just my mind Fable 3 is on PC, ME3 isn't even announced, it's like waiting for GOW4 or U3 !!!! another strange thing, you said the PS3 doen't have any games to wait for, But if you checked the line just above it, you said "Definatly plan to get Last Guardian, maybe FF13vs and definatly Gimbli JRPG, maybe The Journey on PSN too and Sorcery with MOve later, unless i like LBP2 and get it earlier" that's 6-7 PS3 exclusives. there is a big !!! on my head now .... ur post is sign worthy.omho88

GOW3 was not shorter than Uncharted 2, and it is the setting,art that i like, that is why i consider buying it later in the first place

Fable 3 is on PC, so what does that mean ? I dont have a gaming PC, and will get it on 360

Mass Effect 3 is announced, the whole trilogy was announced back then

I never said PS3 has no games to wait for, i will buy some games most definatly, all i said is that it does not have major for me games like Mass Effect 3 and Fable 3, games that i would buy a system for, that is

Demon Soul 2 would be such a game

you are great with words manipulation but that failed you in the last couple of posts .... anyway, i see now what you are coming from. DS2 is definitly coming soon, just like U3 and probabely both before ME3.

There is bad news on DS2, the developer said that they dont have any plans for a Demon Soul 2, which is rather sad

Deep inside i know or hope will come though

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#111 Mr_Cumberdale
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They just released great games in all genres.
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#112 205212669269561485377169522720
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]kept a firm hold in other exclusives.khoofia_pika
WRONGO. Re5= Lost. FFXIII= lost. GTAIV= lost. DMC4= lost.

You forgot Tekken 6, Assassin's Creed, Virtua Fighter 5 & also FFIV that will obviously happen.. Probably Versus 13 too.

In the end, it just goes to show how the PS3 still has some amazing exclusives even with those games going multiplat. Also remember, they are still on the PS3 so it's not like the FFVII business back in the N64 - PSone days.

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#113 walkingdream
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They went from clearly first to dead last.....i don't think their happy. That said they are doing much better then they were.
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#114 Brainhunter
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- Embracing the Blu-Ray format despite the constant blacklash from third-party developers about limited read speed. Now the DVD format is aging fast, and Blu-Ray is being admonished as a true format for gaming, with uncompressed video, audio, and storage space too allow for much more in a single disc.
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- Embracing the Blu-Ray format despite the constant blacklash from third-party developers about limited read speed. Now the DVD format is aging fast, and Blu-Ray is being admonished as a true format for gaming, with uncompressed video, audio, and storage space too allow for much more in a single disc.Brainhunter

There are some new DVD based technologies though, if any of them are used Blue ray would not be as important anymore

And i still dont see how Blu ray has helped in games like RDR

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#117 a_simple_gamer
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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="tagyhag"]kept a firm hold in other exclusives.meconate
WRONGO. Re5= Lost. FFXIII= lost. GTAIV= lost. DMC4= lost.

Maybe so, but Versus is still a confirmed exclusive to the PS3. And let's not forget, the PS3 got MGS4 while the Xbox gets to share a little spin-off.

After hating both FF12, and FF13 even more, i dont have many hopes for FF13vs myself, i am expecting the worst, i want it to be great, but i have some doubts right now

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#118 Promised_Trini
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Wow the TC asks for right things Sony has done right..And some of you are posting what they have done wrong that really makes sense right???..

The things Sony has done right..They have givin me games like GOW3,UC1.UC2,MGS4,LBP,Infamous,Free on-line.

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#119 eyebrows
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If you own a 60gb PS3 that has no problems then you've got it made. It's priceless playing PS2 games in HD, PS1 games, flash card support, blu-ray and of course the awesome PS3 first-party games like U2, GOW3 etc all on one system...incredible, thank you Sony.

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#120 hard_body79
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They finally figured out that they wanted the PS3 to be a gaming platform and focused on it.

Their first party develoment has matured and is producing stellar output.

They have great second party developer relationships.

Their tech is solid.

heretrix

Do you think M$ will evertake that approach with xbox360? Or is it too late in this gen for that to be possible.

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#121 Sollet
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]kept a firm hold in other exclusives.khoofia_pika
WRONGO. Re5= Lost. FFXIII= lost. GTAIV= lost. DMC4= lost.

RE series was never exclusive to playstation, check DC, N64, GC. Final Fantasy series was never exclusive, nes and snes says hi. GTA series was never exclusive, check PC and xbox. Devil may cry however is an lost exclusive series.
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#122 yellonet
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The Playstation 3 has gone from being a overpriced dust gather, too arguably the best gaming platform this gen.

What do you think was the biggest reason for this.

Vinegar_Strokes
Any console is arguably the best gaming platform. For me both the Wii and PC is way better than PS3.
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#124 dah_master
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Sony did some things right which covered their wrongs...

But i applaud at Sony for catching up to M$ even with a year headstart of the 360.

As long as they keep releasing Quality exclusives im happy :D

For the Xbox fanboys and their "exclusives"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j72CmyIx-PA&playnext_from=TL&videos=UB03QdfAsNE

He puts up pretty good points.

Have a Nice Day :D

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#125 hd5870corei7
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Its first bump was Metal Gear Solid 4. Its second bump being the Slim. The Move could be next...
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#126 hd5870corei7
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What Sony did right was Playstation 1 and Playstation 2. Sony´s brand name is still incredibly strong and those 2 consoles are the main reason why PS3 survived the first 2 years. Now, it´s a great system with many games but saying that´s the best one is just an opinion. Imo it´s nowhere close to 360 or PC.

PAL360
Well the PS3 is easily far ahead in terms of exclusives, numbers don't reveal as much as names do, MGS4, UC2, LBP, Demons Souls, all goty winning/worthy titles and especially MGS4 being AAAAE and what not. Granted the 360 has more 3rd party support and better multiplats more than half of the time but its personal lineup is just so abysmal compared to PC,PS3 and Wii.
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#127 PAL360
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

What Sony did right was Playstation 1 and Playstation 2. Sony´s brand name is still incredibly strong and those 2 consoles are the main reason why PS3 survived the first 2 years. Now, it´s a great system with many games but saying that´s the best one is just an opinion. Imo it´s nowhere close to 360 or PC.

hd5870corei7

Well the PS3 is easily far ahead in terms of exclusives, numbers don't reveal as much as names do, MGS4, UC2, LBP, Demons Souls, all goty winning/worthy titles and especially MGS4 being AAAAE and what not. Granted the 360 has more 3rd party support and better multiplats more than half of the time but its personal lineup is just so abysmal compared to PC,PS3 and Wii.

Even the exclusive part is an opinion man. My favourite genres are shooters and wrpgs so obviously 360 has better exclusives than PS3 for me.

Anyway, like stated hundreds of times, exclusives are just a small part of a lineup. When im looking for a good game to buy my last priority is if the game is exclusive or not.

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#128 Clank-PS-Snake
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You're right they started out absolute crap but yea MGS was the turning point, from then there's been non stop quality exclusives that can't be done on 360, plus dualshock 3 and some other updates helped shape it up. Also MS started taking it easy.
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#129 useLOGIC
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Sony's focus on 1st party.

kussese

This. Their first party games over the past few years have been consistently awesome.

i called this way back in 2006 when everyone was running around panicking about the system

i said that just like on ps2, sony's first/2nd party would start churning out quality games consistently, just a matter of time... that mighta been my very first post on these forums actually...