what do you expect in X-Box 720 ? And can the PS3 compete wz it?

The biggest difference in the hardware will be the GPU power and the amount of memory. If the next consoles gets 2GB RAM or more, the developers will have a much easier time with developing games. If the next consoles can run a game like Crysis at 60fps, I'm sold. But these consoles are'nt out until 2012 or something.

i think ms will release a new xbox later next year and it will die out the same time the ps3 does. and then sony will release a ps4 and microsoft and xbox 4. so MS has 2 consoles for every sony console. because xbox lived less than 1/2 of ps2's life. and combined with 360's life, it will equal ps2's life.

yeh I'm thinking there wont be a reveal until E3 2010 with a launch in mid-late 2011 what will be interesting is if sony choose to enter that gen or sit it out and then catch a head start the following gen.sonny2dap

Microsoft won't release a Xbox 720. It's too soon. And besides, what changes could they make to it? We are the higest we can go with the graphics. I would expect them to release a handheld more than a new console also.

Don't expect the next Xbox until at least 2011.

I expect it to have a DX 10+ card with some DX 11 functionality. 2 gigs of RAM, An 8x BR drive, and a good sized solid state drive, with another PPC based CPU with 4-6 full fledged cores(ieout oforder execution). Release date of fall 2011.

TC you realize that Sony is supporting the PS3 for 10 years, much like they have done with the PS2?

We will likely see a PS4 and 720 release at a similar time.

there are strong rumors that M$ is planning to announce the new Xbox this year at E3, the jump between the original xbox and the x360 wasn't that big, so naturally i am not expecting so much but M$ now realizes that Sony can bring new ideas and strong hardwared like bluray and the Cell so M$ should consider that.

if the rumors are true, then we shall see the PS3 aganist x72 face to face for at least 2-3 yrs ( Sony is still commited to 10 yrs life span), does the PS3 have any chance in this compitition? will the companies still support it despite its hard developmnets? is it going to sell as Sony expects?

[QUOTE="navstar29"]

there is no way MS will announce a new console this year!

2mrw

If they do for the love of god I hope its not called the "Xbox 720"... they need to break the trend of using the same name consoles like "****2, 3, 4..." so on and keep each new console fresh.

Prince_Denspion

So the can be named Wii?

Fun fact: In Japanese the number 2 is pronounced "ni" as in knee, so if Nintendo named the console Wii 2 it would be Wiini "Weeny". I am sorry that was useless.

On topic: Microsoft definitely will not announce the 3rd iteration of XBOX this year. But I expect it to have a bluray drive, but probably not the Cell. It's architecture will be like a PC so it won't be very future proof.

Anyways PS1 had a ten year lifespan.But the PS2 came out roughly half waythrough it's lifespan. So PS4's release will be matched with XBOX this time for sure. Sony will probably suport3 different platforms like it does now.

[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

TC you realize that Sony is supporting the PS3 for 10 years, much like they have done with the PS2?

We will likely see a PS4 and 720 release at a similar time.

bingbaocao

[QUOTE="bingbaocao"][QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

TC you realize that Sony is supporting the PS3 for 10 years, much like they have done with the PS2?

We will likely see a PS4 and 720 release at a similar time.

imprezawrx500

The cost for all repairs was set aside (and written off their taxes) long ago.

I expect the both of them to fail in comparison to PC just like usual.

Jade_Monkey

TC you realize that Sony is supporting the PS3 for 10 years, much like they have done with the PS2?

We will likely see a PS4 and 720 release at a similar time.

there are strong rumors that M$ is planning to announce the new Xbox this year at E3, the jump between the original xbox and the x360 wasn't that big, so naturally i am not expecting so much but M$ now realizes that Sony can bring new ideas and strong hardwared like bluray and the Cell so M$ should consider that.

if the rumors are true, then we shall see the PS3 aganist x72 face to face for at least 2-3 yrs ( Sony is still commited to 10 yrs life span), does the PS3 have any chance in this compitition? will the companies still support it despite its hard developmnets? is it going to sell as Sony expects?

2mrw

Well, how is the 360 not a big leap from xbox ? It is a stronger machine than PS3, what more did you expect ? It plays most PC games and nearly all multipltforms better than PS3 also

The question is of PS4 would be able to stand against xbox 720, PS3 would be like generations behind at that point

Wow some people are really gullible.

You won't see an xbox720 anytime soon.

Wow some people are really gullible.

You won't see an xbox720 anytime soon.

SpinoRaptor24

This. Why would MS? The 360 is profitable, it has solid SW and HW sales, it's making the brand stronger everyday... There's no reason at all for MS to launch a new console this early.

I dunno. I think there's a HUGE group of people pissed that their 360's RROD'd on them 10 times. M$ should first try to rid themselves of the RROD completely and get a few sales to people who will be willing to buy another.

Also this most recent garbage about M$ covering up RROD with the E74 error. which they have admitted and are now offering the 3 year warrenty on the E74 and refunds to users who payed for the E74 fix prior to the announcement. their PR is just getting worse and worse right now.

not the time to be announcing a new console imo. It would just get attacked.

TC you realize that Sony is supporting the PS3 for 10 years, much like they have done with the PS2?

We will likely see a PS4 and 720 release at a similar time.

there is no way MS will announce a new console this year!

navstar29

I expect it to be like Virtua Boy, where you wear sweet goggles, annd its liek virtual reality, and when you get shot , you really get shot. ZOMG AWESUMMMM

[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

TC you realize that Sony is supporting the PS3 for 10 years, much like they have done with the PS2?

We will likely see a PS4 and 720 release at a similar time.

bingbaocao

Yeah because if the PS3 fails to make them money, the best thing to do is to spend 10's of millions of dollars on research and development onthe PS4.....wow good thing you aren't part of Sony's gaming division... they'd be bankrupt by now.

[QUOTE="jshaas"][QUOTE="bingbaocao"] what makes you think it will last long if doesn't turn a proffit? -Traveller-

It's not just Sony that owns Blu-Ray. Also Microsoft were invited to join the Blu-Ray association, but turned it down. Probably due to the HD-DVD format being in direct competition.

[QUOTE="jshaas"]

If by a few months ago you mean Q4 2008... well it was christmas, it is to be expected. If the PS3 did turn a proffit in Q3 2008 then you are correct

Tr. ON TOPIC... you do realize that for the next Xbox to compete with the PS3 MS would have to pay Sony to use the Blu-Ray technology.jshaas

Maybe

[QUOTE="jshaas"]This will not happen. Why would anyone pay the competition for their tech?? .

Since they won't, MS will have to use DVD again... well that format has reached it's potential, and nobody wants to switch discs with every game. This is why I think the next consoles we see will run mostly on ditigal copy... even now you can get any song or any movie ditigally... it's only a matter of time until games are the same (some are already... SOCOM, Warhawk, Burnout, etc.). On Demand will also be a big part of the next gen

i agree

EDIT: this was the latest quarter i could find about sony, it still suffered a loss

[QUOTE="2mrw"]

there are strong rumors that M$ is planning to announce the new Xbox this year at E3, the jump between the original xbox and the x360 wasn't that big, so naturally i am not expecting so much but M$ now realizes that Sony can bring new ideas and strong hardwared like bluray and the Cell so M$ should consider that.

if the rumors are true, then we shall see the PS3 aganist x72 face to face for at least 2-3 yrs ( Sony is still commited to 10 yrs life span), does the PS3 have any chance in this compitition? will the companies still support it despite its hard developmnets? is it going to sell as Sony expects?

Well, how is the 360 not a big leap from xbox ? It is a stronger machine than PS3, what more did you expect ? It plays most PC games and nearly all multipltforms better than PS3 also

The question is of PS4 would be able to stand against xbox 720, PS3 would be like generations behind at that point

I expect it to have a DX 10+ card with some DX 11 functionality. 2 gigs of RAM, An 8x BR drive, and a good sized solid state drive, with another PPC based CPU with 4-6 full fledged cores(ieout oforder execution). Release date of fall 2011.

Steppy_76

MS is not announcing a new Xbox360 in the middle of a recession. I see them holding off another year for business strategic reasons.. rushing the consoles releaseinto a soft market will be devastating. If anything, they have learned that $450 consoles wont sell and they will aim to provide a significant upgrade to the 360 in the $350 range. It probably will not have a blu ray player as MS believes in digital distribution.. again, bad business sense to aid their competition in spreading blu ray which will fail ultimately.

I expect the Next MS console to launch in 2012 with a Halo CE Prequel and be a huge leap over the current 360 tech. :D

Sony will need to launch a new console shortly after or be Left For Dead. :P

With the next Xbox I expect MS to move Live on to the next generation like they did with the 360.

With more community features, integrated streaming videos expanded on big style with different channels like on-demand TV - and more immersion / community interaction in general, probably making more use of the webcam. Graphically it will have to be slightly aheadofthe best pc in graphics - which all consoles seem to be the day they are launched.

The controller, I hope, wont change too much as I really like it how it is now. Although I can see an extra controller coming along with movement sensors in them - the success of the Wii won't have gone unnoticed.

From the PS3 I expect the leap forward in graphics but I don't think they have realised how important the online / community side is yet. They've taken a very fragmented approach this gen with the PSN Store being just a web page full of big adverts and Home and the XMB all being separate entities and the worse off for it.

But who knows, maybe they will realise just how it's slipping away from them and pull out the stops to catch up? I can't see them jumpinng ahead though, they are just too far behind and I don't think they are fully switched on to what the consumer wants. But saying that, at the end of the day it's the Playstation brand that will sell Sony's machines, pretty much like it has this gen. Sothey will always be able to compete at some level.

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]MS won't announce the Xbox 720 this year. It will be announced 2 years from now. bingbaocao

[QUOTE="bingbaocao"][QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

TC you realize that Sony is supporting the PS3 for 10 years, much like they have done with the PS2?

We will likely see a PS4 and 720 release at a similar time.

whatisazerg

Yeah because if the PS3 fails to make them money, the best thing to do is to spend 10's of millions of dollars on research and development onthe PS4.....wow good thing you aren't part of Sony's gaming division... they'd be bankrupt by now.

Still it was funny seeing you play corporate, points for trying

Actually, Sony expects to be breaking even now... it was a few months ago that I read that. Sony stated that they should break even in Q1 of 09... which would be now. My mistake. They also stated in that same article that minimal profits should come later this year. As for the Windows comment... good point. I never thought of it that way. But I think that since we have only a few choices of game consoles, compared to the many choices of computers, the companies have different approaches as to what is exceptable spending. Because of the number of computer companies using Windows, MS can afford to charge a smaller fee... whether or not they do is another topic. I think with the PS3 being the only Blu-Ray capable console, Sony would charge a very heafty charge to use the technology.jshaas

personally i think that if microsoft does go the way of blu-ray they will probably make a deal with sony, blu-ray on the xbox for the price of windows on a vaio.

4D graphics and 1T HDD or more

[QUOTE="2mrw"]

there are strong rumors that M$ is planning to announce the new Xbox this year at E3, the jump between the original xbox and the x360 wasn't that big, so naturally i am not expecting so much but M$ now realizes that Sony can bring new ideas and strong hardwared like bluray and the Cell so M$ should consider that.

if the rumors are true, then we shall see the PS3 aganist x72 face to face for at least 2-3 yrs ( Sony is still commited to 10 yrs life span), does the PS3 have any chance in this compitition? will the companies still support it despite its hard developmnets? is it going to sell as Sony expects?

Well, how is the 360 not a big leap from xbox ? It is a stronger machine than PS3, what more did you expect ? It plays most PC games and nearly all multipltforms better than PS3 also

The question is of PS4 would be able to stand against xbox 720, PS3 would be like generations behind at that point

4D graphics and 1T HDD or more

ocinom

[QUOTE="jshaas"] Actually, Sony expects to be breaking even now... it was a few months ago that I read that. Sony stated that they should break even in Q1 of 09... which would be now. My mistake. They also stated in that same article that minimal profits should come later this year. As for the Windows comment... good point. I never thought of it that way. But I think that since we have only a few choices of game consoles, compared to the many choices of computers, the companies have different approaches as to what is exceptable spending. Because of the number of computer companies using Windows, MS can afford to charge a smaller fee... whether or not they do is another topic. I think with the PS3 being the only Blu-Ray capable console, Sony would charge a very heafty charge to use the technology.bingbaocao

personally i think that if microsoft does go the way of blu-ray they will probably make a deal with sony, blu-ray on the xbox for the price of windows on a vaio.

Im guessing MS is planning for an OnLive rival. I believe there wont be any consoles next year, and definitely no discs

I dunno. I think there's a HUGE group of people pissed that their 360's RROD'd on them 10 times. Wow, hyperbole for the win. A "huge" group of people pissed at "10" RROD's? Doubtful. Also, while bad hardware isn't a "good" thing, MS fixing the machine for free leaves a much less bitter taste. M$ should first try to rid themselves of the RROD completely and get a few sales to people who will be willing to buy another. yes, they should fix RROD, but there are already going to be able to get "a few sales to people willing to buy another".

Also this most recent garbage about M$ covering up RROD with the E74 error. Got any sort of actual proof to this rather than baseless conjecture? which they have admitted They did? Got a link? and are now offering the 3 year warrenty on the E74 and refunds to users who payed for the E74 fix prior to the announcement. you do realize the entire hub bub got started over ONE website reporting an increase of NINE more incidents of E74 right? Not 9,000,000 not 90,000, and not even 900...we're talking 9. Due to the well known nature of RROD it is quite conceiveable they are covering it to simply stave off bad press. COULD E74 be a large problem...yes, is there any sort of basis to jump to that conclusion? Not really. their PR is just getting worse and worse right now. By continually addressing any problems that arise and doing something about it right away and even retroactively? They are handling their hardware problems in a far better manner than any prior company has. MS has had 1 reliable system and 1 crappy system and when the system was crappy they took care of the consumer. Sony has had 2 crappy systems, and 1 reliable system...when the system was crappy they did nothing for the consumer for years and didn't retroactively make up for those who got screwed while they hid the problems.

not the time to be announcing a new console imo. It would just get attacked. It's not the time because their system isn't even 4 years old yet and has none of the causal factors that brought about the 360 so soon after the original Xbox.

enygma500

[QUOTE="bingbaocao"]

[QUOTE="jshaas"] Actually, Sony expects to be breaking even now... it was a few months ago that I read that. Sony stated that they should break even in Q1 of 09... which would be now. My mistake. They also stated in that same article that minimal profits should come later this year. As for the Windows comment... good point. I never thought of it that way. But I think that since we have only a few choices of game consoles, compared to the many choices of computers, the companies have different approaches as to what is exceptable spending. Because of the number of computer companies using Windows, MS can afford to charge a smaller fee... whether or not they do is another topic. I think with the PS3 being the only Blu-Ray capable console, Sony would charge a very heafty charge to use the technology.jshaas

personally i think that if microsoft does go the way of blu-ray they will probably make a deal with sony, blu-ray on the xbox for the price of windows on a vaio.

[QUOTE="jshaas"][QUOTE="bingbaocao"]

personally i think that if microsoft does go the way of blu-ray they will probably make a deal with sony, blu-ray on the xbox for the price of windows on a vaio.

bingbaocao

there are strong rumors that M$ is planning to announce the new Xbox this year at E3, the jump between the original xbox and the x360 wasn't that big, so naturally i am not expecting so much but M$ now realizes that Sony can bring new ideas and strong hardwared like bluray and the Cell so M$ should consider that.

if the rumors are true, then we shall see the PS3 aganist x72 face to face for at least 2-3 yrs ( Sony is still commited to 10 yrs life span), does the PS3 have any chance in this compitition? will the companies still support it despite its hard developmnets? is it going to sell as Sony expects?

2mrw