what do you think of cellshading graphics

i personaly hate it. Its not impressive at all and sems like an excuse not to work hard, because it sems a lot easer to make. when you looks at a dirt road in cellshading games it is just one solid color, but in normal ones you can see different textures and the grains of dirt on the ground. the same for other things someones shirt will just look the same al around, when in a normal game you can see wrinkles and different colors on the shirt depending on the lighting.

Its not impressive at all and sems like an excuse not to work hardEmperorZeruel

I like Cell Shading.

[QUOTE="EmperorZeruel"] Its not impressive at all and sems like an excuse not to work hardCherokee_Jack

i liked it in crackdown alot

depends on the game, ofcourse gears wouldnt be good with cel-shading but prince of persia and crackdown were fantastic with cel-shaded graphics

What's wrong with cel-shading, it's a nice break from all those realistic looking games and can look great, The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker proved this BTW.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="EmperorZeruel"] Its not impressive at all and sems like an excuse not to work hardIronBass

I've seen that the redactors of the local PC magazines worship this cell-shading method a lot... I don't know why, it looks so childish and ugly to me... It was cool maybe in 2003, but not now :D

I have yet to see a form of cell shading that I liked, I like stylized graphics but not that look.

It's awesome, I love it. Some devs are really good with it, and the results are simply AWESOME.IronBass

What's wrong with cel-shading, it's a nice break from all those realistic looking games and can look great, The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker proved this BTW.

mitu123

well did you read what a wrote you looks at a dirt road in a celshaded game and its just one shade of brown on the ground and othing elss, no dirrerent colors depending on light, you cant see different grains of dirt on the gound. its just one solid color on the ground.EmperorZeruel

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

What's wrong with cel-shading, it's a nice break from all those realistic looking games and can look great, The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker proved this BTW.

MachoBuzzzy

Cell shading doesn't bother me.

[QUOTE="IronBass"]It's awesome, I love it. Some devs are really good with it, and the results are simply AWESOME.MachoBuzzzy

[QUOTE="MachoBuzzzy"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

What's wrong with cel-shading, it's a nice break from all those realistic looking games and can look great, The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker proved this BTW.

mitu123

[QUOTE="MachoBuzzzy"][QUOTE="IronBass"]It's awesome, I love it. Some devs are really good with it, and the results are simply AWESOME.toast_burner

Depends on the game, in my case. For example, I hated the cell shading graphics in Wind Waker because it didn't seem like that's how a Zelda game should look like. That's just my opinion though.

[QUOTE="EmperorZeruel"]well did you read what a wrote you looks at a dirt road in a celshaded game and its just one shade of brown on the ground and othing elss, no dirrerent colors depending on light, you cant see different grains of dirt on the gound. its just one solid color on the ground.IronBass

[QUOTE="MachoBuzzzy"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Yeah, I forgot that one too, then again, it's underrated.mitu123

yeah i did a couple a played a little bit of zeldaWW, and i used to play this game that was like twisted metal for game cube whos name i forgot.EmperorZeruel

[QUOTE="MachoBuzzzy"][QUOTE="IronBass"]It's awesome, I love it. Some devs are really good with it, and the results are simply AWESOME.toast_burner

Yipes. Borderlands just landed on my radar.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="EmperorZeruel"]well did you read what a wrote you looks at a dirt road in a celshaded game and its just one shade of brown on the ground and othing elss, no dirrerent colors depending on light, you cant see different grains of dirt on the gound. its just one solid color on the ground.EmperorZeruel

Anyone who is playing a game and NEEDS it to look realistic needs to either play a better game or get him self sorted out. If cell-shaded graphics are too 'childish' for you, its ironic how i think you're the one who needs to grow up as obviously you're not mature enough to appreciate simple art. If you dont like them simply out of taste, that's your choice. Personally I believe it has already been shown that cell-shaded games can look stunningly beautiful (the wind waker was a fabuslous example of this, as is the more recent prince of persia). Cell shaded graphics arent always great as developers can get lazy with them, but done properly, they're beautiful.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

It works out awesome in some games like TF2 and the new PoP and some games aren't cut out for this like BorderlandsMachoBuzzzy

Yipes. Borderlands just landed on my radar.

thats more of a mix when i say cellshading i mean something like zeldaEmperorZeruel

thats more of a mix when i say cellshading i mean something like zeldaEmperorZeruel

It's not a mix. It's fully cell-shaded.

Just a more complex and "realistic" cell-shading than the ones from games like Zelda WW or Sly.

[QUOTE="EmperorZeruel"]] thats more of a mix when i say cellshading i mean something like zeldaIronBass

then what do you have to say about the simple ones like zelda Ww and katmamari, simple means easer.EmperorZeruel

Cell shading is beautiful when its done right. Not many games pull it off in my opinion even the ones praised for there graphics. I like the style a lot however. Also, TC, don't talk about how lazy you think it is unless you have a clue about what you are talking about. Good cell shading is difficult, don't pretend otherwise.

Cell shading is good.

[QUOTE="EmperorZeruel"] thats more of a mix when i say cellshading i mean something like zeldaIronBass

It's not a mix. It's fully cell-shaded.

Just a more complex and "realistic" cell-shading than the ones from games like Zelda WW or Sly.

Most of the games that i believe are artistically beautiful have cel-shading, games like Jet Set Radio, Zelda Wind Waker, Okami, Tales of Vesperia , Team Fortress. So yeah, I'm a fan.

yeah "realistic cellshading" which means its a mixEmperorZeruel

[QUOTE="EmperorZeruel"]then what do you have to say about the simple ones like zelda Ww and katmamari, simple means easer.IronBass

This

has a more realistic styIe than this

but still both are fully cell-shaded games.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="EmperorZeruel"]then what do you have to say about the simple ones like zelda Ww and katmamari, simple means easer.EmperorZeruel

This isn't a book question, its a common sense one. Having a simple looking games does not at all mean it was easy to accomplish. The work it takes to make a simple art style and make it look so good is difficult. No dictionary will give you a definition like this.

i personaly hate it. Its not impressive at all and sems like an excuse not to work hard, because it sems a lot easer to make. when you looks at a dirt road in cellshading games it is just one solid color, but in normal ones you can see different textures and the grains of dirt on the ground. the same for other things someones shirt will just look the same al around, when in a normal game you can see wrinkles and different colors on the shirt depending on the lighting.

EmperorZeruel

yeah and you must be the one to judge game developers and how lazy they have become....... and actually cellshaded games can have alot of detail jus like the normal games but maybe you just tried one that wasnt as good

i really like to have the combination between cellshaded and the normal kind of games so that no one gets bored of any
so for me i enjoy both types as long as the game is awesome and i think both may take alot of work to develop so no need to belittle any ones work actually i think sometimes that some cellshaded games may be even more difficult to develop

well in the simple looking cellshaded games as i mentioned ealier the grass is just one solid golor and the dirt is just one solid colorEmperorZeruel

[QUOTE="EmperorZeruel"]well in the simple looking cellshaded games as i mentioned ealier the grass is just one solid golor and the dirt is just one solid colorIronBass

That's not true. Not even in WW, the "simplest" looking cell-shading game I can remember right now. WW looked pretty awesome.

This is the grass in Wind Waker:

Not what I'd call 'solid', but it's all basically the same color. I think it looks nice, though.

and here is the grass in Tp you seeits not just one color there are little patces of dirt and different shades depending on light as wellas shadows

I like it. Also a big LOL for that lazy-dev comment... :roll:

and here is the grass in Tp you seeits not just one color there are little patces of dirt and different shades depending on light as wellas shadows

EmperorZeruel

Yes, that's another way to go about it. But in 10 years, you know which one will look better and retain its charm.