What do you think of Valve?

Apparently you missed what I wrote. I'll say it again.

I don't see any other developers running a Store/chat/friend service and updating their games constantly at the SAME time.

DragonfireXZ95

Yes, because obviously it's the same guys who do both "at the same time".

I feel they're overall lazy and have by and large betrayed their playerbase with the whole L4D2 one year after L4D1 and the TF2 RMT scandal. Just my personal opinion.

Pixel-Pirate

That's Turtle Rock's fault - a company that was brought into Valve. Valve wasn't happy with the decision to release a sequel so soon, and I've heard they've been dropped or cut down.

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Apparently you missed what I wrote. I'll say it again.

I don't see any other developers running a Store/chat/friend service and updating their games constantly at the SAME time.

N30F3N1X

Yes, because obviously it's the same guys who do both "at the same time".

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Yes, they could have done a half assed episode 3 in 2009 or 2010, and it would have been much maligned for being released too soon. I'm not an expert, but if I had to guess I would say they are working on a full sequel in the form of Half Life 3 and it is still under wraps because they are trying to make something really special.

HoolaHoopMan

I feel like this has to be the case right now concerning Episode 3. It's been three years since the orange box came out and the time between HL2-EP1-EP2 was pretty consistant with in a time frame.

I woudn't be suprised as well if they are using the time to upgrade the source engine or revamping some of the game tech. Whatever the reason though, I need some info ASAP.

they take all the credit where credit is not due.

they did not make Counter-Strike. 2 modders did.

they did not make Left 4 Dead. modders did.

did not make Portal. students did.

did not make Day of Defeat. modders did.

did not make Team Fortress. modders did.

what they do is they look at people who have original ideas like the games above, and hire them, then slapping a Valve logo at the end-product.

all they ever did was Half Life. from that those above games were born, but Valve's only creative input for me was Half Life. those other games are born from other people's minds. people outside the studio. the ideas were already conceived even before Valve hired them.

rawr89

They are still an incredibly small company compared to any other developers that have a download service. So what's your point?

DragonfireXZ95

More like what is YOUR point.

It doesn't matter how small they are, if the teams handling those things aren't the same there's no reason they should take so long for a single game.

valve makes my list of top 5 worst developers of all time! seriously all they made is half life and l4d that isnt enough for me sorry

I like Valve when they aren't working on Half Life at this point.

What Left 4 Dead lacks in content(well 2 fixed that a bit) it made up for in being the epitome of cooperative gaming. It was unique when it came out, and it's entire styIe of play is still its own thing. It's highly replayable, and the competitive MP side of it is a lot of fun to play. It just needs more acts.

Portal is probably one of the best puzzle games I've played. The stupid "the cake is a lie" meme was killed thanks to the Internet, but the game is damn good.

Team Fortress 2 is probably the best shooter MP this gen. Half Life 2 on the other hand I have a love/hate for. I love the pacing, the presentation, gravity gun, and I like that it tries to stay varied. I absolutely dislike the combat(it's ass), the vehicles(the controls are ass), and the puzzles are pathetic(major waste of time). That and I really do not think it aged as well as everyone says it does. **** was archaic in the gunplay department the day it came out. The hell do you think happened to it years later?

So yeah personally I love Valve with less Half Life, more everything else. Portal 2 looks ace. DoTA could be interesting.

jg4xchamp

valve makes my list of top 5 worst developers of all time! seriously all they made is half life and l4d that isnt enough for me sorry

mariokart64fan