what does 10 out of 10 mean to you?

A lot of debate occured after MGS4 and GTA4 getting 10 out of 10s. Some people said it was perfect and thats why it deserved it and others said it was "prime" and had very few flaws. It seemed odd to me that we had such a debate over a 10 out of 10 which should be a perfect score, and thus there should be no flaws in the game(just like a 10 out of 10 in anything). This is NOT i reapeat NOT to debate mgs or gta's 10 out of 10 but instead, what does 10 out of 10 mean to you?

Is it perfection?

Close enough?

what?

Thanks

Not refering to either game but I've said for years no game I've ever played deserves 10/10. For me it would mean a game that couldn't be improved apon at the time, a game with no flaws.

It means that it is a good game!Rikusaki

Not very much until I play the game.

Coming from gamespot, all reviews, especially big name games are treated as highly suspicious.

If you aren't willing to give a game a 10 for whatever excuse then don't use a 10 based rating system. Plain and simple.

To me a 10 means the game excelled in all areas. Or that it was as best as possible. The whole argument that I often hear about no game deserves a 10 is rubbish to me.

To me, it's perfection. No game deserves that.WeAreBorn

Whats the point of the score even existing if no game will EVER get it?

If you aren't willing to give a game a 10 for whatever excuse then don't use a 10 based rating system. Plain and simple.

To me a 10 means the game excelled in all areas. Or that it was as best as possible. The whole argument that I often hear about no game deserves a 10 is rubbish to me.

Panzer_Zwei

No game in gaming history deserves it.

If you aren't willing to give a game a 10 for whatever excuse then don't use a 10 based rating system. Plain and simple.

To me a 10 means the game excelled in all areas. Or that it was as best as possible. The whole argument that I often hear about no game deserves a 10 is rubbish to me.

Panzer_Zwei

[QUOTE="WeAreBorn"]To me, it's perfection. No game deserves that.Evz0rz

Whats the point of the score even existing if no game will EVER get it?

It's just it. 99.9 % of games won't reach it. In my opinion, Gears of War would be at like 9.3, and it is the best action game I have ever played.

Overrated?TDLlama

I'd say it's EITHER so good OR the hype is so big reviewers deliberately ignore any flaws the game has.

on gamespot according to there scoring they said it means a game is great, above good. Its not close to perfection at all, 10 means the devlopers did something right and made it enjoyable.

To me tho not on gamespot a 10 means overrated.

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

If you aren't willing to give a game a 10 for whatever excuse then don't use a 10 based rating system. Plain and simple.

To me a 10 means the game excelled in all areas. Or that it was as best as possible. The whole argument that I often hear about no game deserves a 10 is rubbish to me.

WeAreBorn

No game in gaming history deserves it.

I guess nobody ever deserved a 10 or A rating on their exams, even when they did answered everything correctl, because nobody is perfect correct?

Nice logic you have there.

It means the reviewer found it to be an incredible experience. Nothing's perfect.

A 10 to me means a game that is top of it's genre when it was released...

Not perfect but the best of the games in that category at that time..

[QUOTE="WeAreBorn"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

If you aren't willing to give a game a 10 for whatever excuse then don't use a 10 based rating system. Plain and simple.

To me a 10 means the game excelled in all areas. Or that it was as best as possible. The whole argument that I often hear about no game deserves a 10 is rubbish to me.

Panzer_Zwei

No game in gaming history deserves it.

I guess nobody ever deserved a 10 or A rating on their exams, even when they did answered everything correctl, because nobody is perfect correct?

Nice logic you have there.

define the perfect game.

[QUOTE="WeAreBorn"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

If you aren't willing to give a game a 10 for whatever excuse then don't use a 10 based rating system. Plain and simple.

To me a 10 means the game excelled in all areas. Or that it was as best as possible. The whole argument that I often hear about no game deserves a 10 is rubbish to me.

Panzer_Zwei

No game in gaming history deserves it.

I guess nobody ever deserved a 10 or A rating on their exams, even when they did answered everything correctl, because nobody is perfect correct?

Nice logic you have there.

Seriously, I do not care about what you think. In my opinion, a "10" means perfection, and no game deserves that. No one will.

It means the reviewer found it to be an incredible experience. Nothing's perfect.

Vyyral

9.5 was always a bloody good score here til GS went soft

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

If you aren't willing to give a game a 10 for whatever excuse then don't use a 10 based rating system. Plain and simple.

To me a 10 means the game excelled in all areas. Or that it was as best as possible. The whole argument that I often hear about no game deserves a 10 is rubbish to me.

blue_hazy_basic

So what are the parameters used in that case? I mean I understand university exams are something which only very few individuals among hundreds (if even) will answer everything correctly, or don't commit any mistake.

But if for example, someone actually answered everything correctly. What would be the paramater used to only give it a 87/100?

I've never classed a 10 as 'perfection'... at all. I don't think *any* game is perfect, some games come close but they always have flaws or imperfections which prevent it from being classed as 'perfect' like any game, film, novel or anything else for that manner.

To me, when you give a game a ranking, be it out of 10, a percentage, or whatever, you are marking a games worth and achievement within a particular frame (1-10, 1-100 whatever) so giving it the top score means that it is a remarkable achievement and one of the finest examples of that medium (so games that score a 10 on here or any other website are, in that reviewers opinion, the very finest achievements of videogaming and deserve the highest score possible).

To me it seems ridiculous to even have a 10 if people consider it as 'perfection' and an unattainable mark - you're implying 9.8 or 9.9 is the best mark you can get so the marking should only really be out of that if you get my drift.

Giving a game an 11 (or 101%+ etc) to me would be perfection, because that very mark implies it is perfection, beyond what is possible to achieve, which is what a lot of people consider perfection to be.

A score of 10 means that a game is as close to "perfect" as the reviewer deems fit.

This generation it means overrated, because lets be honest no game this entire gen has been 10 worthy. Not GTA4, not MGS4. These games are more like 9.0. while games like HALO3 and Gears of war are 8.5.

Seriously, I do not care about what you think. In my opinion, a "10" means perfection, and no game deserves that. No one will.

WeAreBorn

A score of 10 means that a game is as close to "perfect" as the reviewer deems fit.

AvIdGaMeR444

thats a fair enough point, but can you really round something up to perfection?

It means " State of the art " in my eyes.TecmoGirl

State of the art? Translate, please.

[QUOTE="WeAreBorn"]

Seriously, I do not care about what you think. In my opinion, a "10" means perfection, and no game deserves that. No one will.

Panzer_Zwei

I do not complain. I understand that GameSpot's 10's do not mean perfect, but in my books, it does, and therefore, no game, if I was the reviewer, would ever get a "10".

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

If you aren't willing to give a game a 10 for whatever excuse then don't use a 10 based rating system. Plain and simple.

To me a 10 means the game excelled in all areas. Or that it was as best as possible. The whole argument that I often hear about no game deserves a 10 is rubbish to me.

Panzer_Zwei

So what are the parameters used in that case? I mean I understand university exams are something which only very few individuals among hundreds (if even) will answer everything correctly, or don't commit any mistake.

But if for example, someone actually answered everything correctly. What would be the paramater used to only give it a 87/100?

Grading remained consistent so it was possible to compare scores between years. What if they gave someone 100 and someone wrote a better essay the next semester? WHat score do they give then?

When a movie gets a 5 Star rating, does that mean it's perfect?

When you go to a 5 star hotel, do you consider it to be brand new, and flawless?

No, but you know that the experience will be great, and have little room needed for improvements.

That's why the games got 10's.

When a movie gets a 5 Star rating, does that mean it's perfect?

When you go to a 5 star hotel, do you consider it to be brand new, and flawless?

No, but you know that the experience will be great, and have little room needed for improvements.

That's why the games got 10's.

RotaryRX7

It means a game is overrated.marklarmer

Don't you know all games are overrated...or underrated depending on who you are.

Grading remained consistent so it was possible to compare scores between years. What if they gave someone 100 and someone wrote a better essay the next semester? WHat score do they give then?

blue_hazy_basic

But like you mentioned, everyone has their own culture and way to see it. We French have a totally different mentality than the British.

But then again, all of the important counties in Europe think they're the best.

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

If you aren't willing to give a game a 10 for whatever excuse then don't use a 10 based rating system. Plain and simple.

To me a 10 means the game excelled in all areas. Or that it was as best as possible. The whole argument that I often hear about no game deserves a 10 is rubbish to me.

blue_hazy_basic

And that's exactly how I look at rating video games.

Even my personal favorites and the games I consider to be the best still have flaws, no matter how great they are.

"Whats the point of the score even existing if no game will EVER get it?"

It's really about getting the closest. Perfection is associated with a rating of '10'. When a perfect 10 rating is given to a title like GTA4, Mario Galaxy, or GMS4 you have to examine it honestly and admit that every video game title ever could be improved upon, making it less than perfect.

One of my favorites, I consider Super Castlevania IV on SNES to be about 9.5. While it made incredible improvements verses the originals, it was also very short and much easier than previous Castlevania titles. Close, and damn good, but not perfect.

it means that its a must buy for that system.

cows were starved of good games for so long that any decent game was bound to get a 10.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

If you aren't willing to give a game a 10 for whatever excuse then don't use a 10 based rating system. Plain and simple.

To me a 10 means the game excelled in all areas. Or that it was as best as possible. The whole argument that I often hear about no game deserves a 10 is rubbish to me.

Hells_Hammer

And that's exactly how I look at rating video games.

Even my personal favorites and the games I consider to be the best still have flaws, no matter how great they are.

"Whats the point of the score even existing if no game will EVER get it?"

It's really about getting the closest. Perfection is associated with a rating of '10'. When a perfect 10 rating is given to a title like GTA4, Mario Galaxy, or GMS4 you have to examine it honestly and admit that every video game title ever could be improved upon, making it less than perfect.

One of my favorites, I consider Super Castlevania IV on SNES to be about 9.5. While it made incredible improvements verses the originals, it was also very short and much easier than previous Castlevania titles. Close, and damn good, but not perfect.

Overrated or perfect? How am I supposed to know what 10 out of ten game we are talking about!

For example= GTA4 Score=10 Overrated

MGS4 score=10 perfect