What does Xbox One have to do to compete this year?

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#1  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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I mean, Sony and Nintendo have been pretty good at marketing their 2015 releases. We all know there's even more to come. But Xbox? Are we really counting Quantum Break as a savior? Remedy doesn't make system sellers. Rise of the Tomb Raider? it's not even an exclusive (coming out for 360). Then there's Halo 5 - a game, that in today's age, looks like a copy cat instead of the trendsetter it once was. And when you consider multiplats being better on PS4, what exactly is there to look forward to? MS needs to start looking for their next big IP or open up that wallet so we can get some big 3rd party exclusives. Games like Sunset Overdrive and Scalebound appeal to a niche audience. What say you, SW? Does MS have something big up their sleeves? Are we in for a big surprise or is it just wishful thinking?

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#2  Edited By lostrib
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You criticize niche games but Sony fans have been running around jerking off about bloodborne

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#3 MonsieurX
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What does the PS4 have this year?

Bloodborne?

The Flopder?

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Halo, gears of war reveal, quantum break, crack down, scale bound, phantom dust, tomb raider, more forza possibly, some indie games, minecraft stuff, and they will probably secure more timed exclusives this year too.

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#5 LJS9502_basic
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Much like any console the X1 needs to provide games worth purchasing that only appear on their console. Whether they do or not....I can't say. Right now with their games ending up on PC I don't see an advantage to picking one up but in a few years....who knows.

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#6 mikhail
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Kinect, The Cloud, and DX12?

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#7 lostrib
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@mikhail: what is shit that won't help?

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#8  Edited By clr84651
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MS has their games for the X1 & Sony has their games for the PS4. Which one will do better from their games remains to be seen.

MS saw a boost from a $50 price reduction and XMas in N.A.

Games and price will determine how much MS can cut/slow down the PS4's worldwide sales increase.

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I'm sure they will secure some 1 month timed exclusivity to make it 'worth' it.

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@Ghost120x said:

Halo, gears of war reveal, quantum break, crack down, scale bound, phantom dust, tomb raider, more forza possibly, some indie games, minecraft stuff, and they will probably secure more timed exclusives this year too.

There ya go TC. If these games don't appeal to you, don't buy the console. But believe it or not, there are gamers looking forward to these games.

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There's plenty... I'm more excited for Xbone next year than PS4... put it that way.

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@lostrib said:

@mikhail: what is shit that won't help?

how dare you say that? lems in this forum told us it will transform xbone into a nasa supercomputer, just you wait! (tm)

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#14  Edited By mems_1224
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what does the ps4 have this year? bloodborne is a niche title in a bad franchise, uncharted should have ended at 2 and the new game is a fucking waste of naughty dog's talent, the order looks like a bad gears of war game had sex with heavy rain. what else is there?

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@MonsieurX:

Bloodborne

Uncharted 4: A Thief's End

The Tomorrow Children

Until Dawn

Rime

Everybody's Gone to the Rapture

The Order: 1886

The Vanishing of Ethan Carter

The Witness

Volume

No Man's Sky

Hollowpoint

Fat Princess Adventures

Tearaway Unfolded

Alienation

Saw it on PS Blog. Okay list.

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@Blabadon: Will UC4 make it in 2015?

Several multiplats or games I've never heard off.

Only game I'm excited is Fat Princess

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#17  Edited By SolidTy
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@Blabadon: Will UC4 make it in 2015?

@MonsieurX: Naughty Dog is good at hitting their time tables and they typically release a game a year after the new machine hits (exempli gratia: Jak 2001,Uncharted 2007) and Uncharted 4 is at the end of year 2 giving them a whole extra year with the game historically speaking...so ND seem to have plenty of time. When it comes to delays, ND is actually pretty good (Crash 1-3, CTR, Jak 1-3, Jak X, U1-3, TLOU...U4). They also shoot for the end of the year as a release date, so if they missed end of year 2015 this year, that would mean a end of year 2016 title (Do they need that much time with the PS4 for their first PS4 title on a machine designed to be easy to work with?)...but considering ND is good for about 4 games per generation, that wouldn't make sense that ND is struggling with UC4 considering all we know about ND and the PS4.

Is there a reason you suspect a delay from ND? Perhaps you suspect they are less competent or can't make use of the PS4 (surprising the PS3 and PS2 were notoriously harder to program for and they still cranked out titles at their normal rate) or is that more a generalization due to the other delays that have happened from other devs?

There will be games delayed in 2015, but it's a safe bet Uncharted 4 won't be one of them unless something horrible/unforseen happens to Naughty Dog.

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@SolidGame_basic: Halo 5 at the end of the year is a big one. 360/Xbone Tomb Raider timed exclusive at the end of the year is another one. I would also point to Quantum Break, but I learned that Remedy (Alan Wake) is a developer well known for delays and after waiting from 2005 360 launch to 2010 to play Alan Wake, I'm going to just wait for whenever Remedy is ready.

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#18  Edited By Nike_Air
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The first 8 months of the year don't count , it's only preseason.

When the playoffs get here -

  1. Halo 5 (massive)
  2. Rise of the Tomb Raider (big)
  3. Forza 6
  4. Quantum Break

vs.

  1. Uncharted 4 (big)

Microsoft wins the year once again. Cows only have indies , sales , and longer network outages!

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@cainetao11: the games mentioned have no release date, and everything from xbox is looking more like end of the year, it's a poor start for them nothing until Q3, except multiplat that's fact, fanboy or not, it's slim pickings

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#20 Blabadon
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@MonsieurX: That's their schedule so far

And how are games you've never heard of suddenly less valued as games systems have?

This forum, I swear.

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@Krelian-co said:

@lostrib said:

@mikhail: what is shit that won't help?

how dare you say that? lems in this forum told us it will transform xbone into a nasa supercomputer, just you wait! (tm)

Just like Cell Processing. Remember back when Sony was saying that Cell processors in refrigerators, microwaves, and televisions would all network together in order to make the PlayStation more powerful? HAH!

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#23  Edited By MonsieurX
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@Blabadon said:

@MonsieurX: That's their schedule so far

And how are games you've never heard of suddenly less valued as games systems have?

This forum, I swear.

Never said they're bad games,just that OP is talking about "a savior",so I doubt any of those will be major hits on the PS4

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Good lord, we go through this EVERY year and EVERY year all consoles have games announced before, during, and after E3.

There will be new games announced for all 3 soon.

Happens every year...........this is getting old.

Just buy all 3 so you dont have make these threads

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#25 SolidGame_basic
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@navyguy21: but e3 is in June and Sony will already have two first party games out by then

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#26  Edited By deactivated-5a30e101a977c
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Same topic over and over again. Cows must feel the heat

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#27 MonsieurX
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@SolidGame_basic said:

@navyguy21: but e3 is in June and Sony will already have two first party games out by then

Will they be any good?

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#28 RR360DD
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And what does the PS4 have?

Are you discrediting Halo because its nothing new? Yet you'd be sure to include the likes of Uncharted 4. Halo is a bigger franchise than anything on Playstation, even the mighty Gran Turismo which Sony and PD have run into the ground, GT6's sales were pathetic.

MS always announce games closer to release than Sony do. They only announced the Master chief collection and Forza Horizon 2 at E3 2014 and they released a few months after.

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@navyguy21: but e3 is in June and Sony will already have two first party games out by then

So...........double standards are cool now?

One could argue that the majority of PS4s 2014 was mulitiplats.........yet the console did pretty good.

Ninty and MS had more exclusives.........but it didnt matter for most of the year.

Bottom line is games are delayed, games suck, multipats are playable, etc..............ie.......the same cycle every year.

Xbox One may not have first party games.........but it will have tons of games............just as PS4 did in 2014

What is the issue? Sony or MS doesnt have to release a game just because their competitor does. Its about quality, not responses. For the most part, im fine when games get delayed and arent rushed to meet dates or just to compete with another game. Thats insane business. I dont want AC Unity if it means we get a crappy game. If those games on PS4 are ready, then release then. That doesnt mean MS needs to rush to respond and it doesnt mean the XB1 is a less appealing console because we all know there are games on the horizon. Pretending it doesnt may make you feel better, but it doesnt mean anything in the real world. Both new consoles have sucked in terms of first party games yet i have enjoyed both.

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Cows are so insecure right now. Probably butthurt over 5club flopping.

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@navyguy21 said:

@SolidGame_basic said:

@navyguy21: but e3 is in June and Sony will already have two first party games out by then

So...........double standards are cool now?

One could argue that the majority of PS4s 2014 was mulitiplats.........yet the console did pretty good.

Ninty and MS had more exclusives.........but it didnt matter for most of the year.

Bottom line is games are delayed, games suck, multipats are playable, etc..............ie.......the same cycle every year.

Xbox One may not have first party games.........but it will have tons of games............just as PS4 did in 2014

What is the issue? Sony or MS doesnt have to release a game just because their competitor does. Its about quality, not responses. For the most part, im fine when games get delayed and arent rushed to meet dates or just to compete with another game. Thats insane business. I dont want AC Unity if it means we get a crappy game. If those games on PS4 are ready, then release then. That doesnt mean MS needs to rush to respond and it doesnt mean the XB1 is a less appealing console because we all know there are games on the horizon. Pretending it doesnt may make you feel better, but it doesnt mean anything in the real world. Both new consoles have sucked in terms of first party games yet i have enjoyed both.

PS4 is the best console for multiplats which gives it an advantage that the other two consoles lack. Therefore, the other two need to make it up somehow. X1 can make it up with some great exclusives, but right now we are left in the dark about those.

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@SolidGame_basic said:

@navyguy21 said:

So...........double standards are cool now?

One could argue that the majority of PS4s 2014 was mulitiplats.........yet the console did pretty good.

Ninty and MS had more exclusives.........but it didnt matter for most of the year.

Bottom line is games are delayed, games suck, multipats are playable, etc..............ie.......the same cycle every year.

Xbox One may not have first party games.........but it will have tons of games............just as PS4 did in 2014

What is the issue? Sony or MS doesnt have to release a game just because their competitor does. Its about quality, not responses. For the most part, im fine when games get delayed and arent rushed to meet dates or just to compete with another game. Thats insane business. I dont want AC Unity if it means we get a crappy game. If those games on PS4 are ready, then release then. That doesnt mean MS needs to rush to respond and it doesnt mean the XB1 is a less appealing console because we all know there are games on the horizon. Pretending it doesnt may make you feel better, but it doesnt mean anything in the real world. Both new consoles have sucked in terms of first party games yet i have enjoyed both.

PS4 is the best console for multiplats which gives it an advantage that the other two consoles lack. Therefore, the other two need to make it up somehow. X1 can make it up with some great exclusives, but right now we are left in the dark about those.

So PS4 having superior versions makes the others unplayable? How does having better multiplats make of for no exclusives?

So that means 90% of PS3 multiplats are irrelevant?

PS2 multiplats?

Your logic is flawed in so many ways. You are saying MS should make up for inferior multiplats with exclusive games? How does that even make sense?

Does that logic also apply to PS4 with the few multipats that run better on XB1? Did sony release exclusives on 2014 to counter those?

This debate is insane. I agree with you that the PS4 is the best console, but that doesnt make the XB1 less of a console, doesnt make it suck, doesnt make it any worse because their are no exclusives announced in the first 6 mos.........even though Quantum Break is scheduled for Q2.

There are also a ton of exlusives that are announced but dont have FIRM dates such as scalebound.

Honestly, this is why i bought both. I know that each would have great exclusives but they would also have dry spells.

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@SolidGame_basic:

Xbox Video> The Order 1886

Bloodbourne I hope will be an epic game. To act as if it has this huge audience is fan fiction. It needs more hand holding and 100 feet checkpoints to achieve those numbers.

Still better than the X1's early announcements. /none

Hope the Jan event and E3 bring some suprises.

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#35  Edited By B4X
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@SolidGame_basic said:

@navyguy21 said:

@SolidGame_basic said:

@navyguy21: but e3 is in June and Sony will already have two first party games out by then

So...........double standards are cool now?

One could argue that the majority of PS4s 2014 was mulitiplats.........yet the console did pretty good.

Ninty and MS had more exclusives.........but it didnt matter for most of the year.

Bottom line is games are delayed, games suck, multipats are playable, etc..............ie.......the same cycle every year.

Xbox One may not have first party games.........but it will have tons of games............just as PS4 did in 2014

What is the issue? Sony or MS doesnt have to release a game just because their competitor does. Its about quality, not responses. For the most part, im fine when games get delayed and arent rushed to meet dates or just to compete with another game. Thats insane business. I dont want AC Unity if it means we get a crappy game. If those games on PS4 are ready, then release then. That doesnt mean MS needs to rush to respond and it doesnt mean the XB1 is a less appealing console because we all know there are games on the horizon. Pretending it doesnt may make you feel better, but it doesnt mean anything in the real world. Both new consoles have sucked in terms of first party games yet i have enjoyed both.

PS4 is the best console for multiplats which gives it an advantage that the other two consoles lack. Therefore, the other two need to make it up somehow. X1 can make it up with some great exclusives, but right now we are left in the dark about those.

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@b4x said:

@SolidGame_basic:

Xbox Video> The Order 1886

Bloodbourne I hope will be an epic game. To act as if it has this huge audience is fan fiction. Needs more hand holding and 100 feet checkpoints to achieve those numbers.

Still better than the X1's early announcements. /none

Hope the Jan event and E3 bring some suprises.

Didn't the cows have a mass circle jerk because they thought you were banned? your not banned tho?

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2 games is all I can think of. Quantum Break and Halo 5.

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#38 B4X
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@supergokublitz said:

@b4x said:

@SolidGame_basic:

Xbox Video> The Order 1886

Bloodbourne I hope will be an epic game. To act as if it has this huge audience is fan fiction. Needs more hand holding and 100 feet checkpoints to achieve those numbers.

Still better than the X1's early announcements. /none

Hope the Jan event and E3 bring some suprises.

Didn't the cows have a mass circle jerk because they thought you were banned? your not banned tho?

No... I think they were disappointed/shocked that I was. To get banned for what I did in THAT thread is laughable. They couldn't believe with my past ownages... that's the thread that got me banned.

Let's try to stay OT. The hammer is near.

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@b4x:

I'm glad you're around!

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@b4x:

I'm glad you're around!

Thank you kind sir. I didn't think 2015 was in my favor.

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#41  Edited By Heil68
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@b4x said:

@Heil68 said:

@b4x:

I'm glad you're around!

Thank you kind sir. I didn't think 2015 was in my favor.

You'll have to come on our podcast, we seriously have a good time.

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#42 supergokublitz
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@b4x said:

@supergokublitz said:

@b4x said:

@SolidGame_basic:

Xbox Video> The Order 1886

Bloodbourne I hope will be an epic game. To act as if it has this huge audience is fan fiction. Needs more hand holding and 100 feet checkpoints to achieve those numbers.

Still better than the X1's early announcements. /none

Hope the Jan event and E3 bring some suprises.

Didn't the cows have a mass circle jerk because they thought you were banned? your not banned tho?

No... I think they were disappointed/shocked that I was. To get banned for what I did in THAT thread is laughable. They couldn't believe with my past ownages... that's the thread that got me banned.

Let's try to stay OT. The hammer is near.

lol righto will do.

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#43  Edited By B4X
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@Heil68 said:

@b4x said:

@Heil68 said:

@b4x:

I'm glad you're around!

Thank you kind sir. I didn't think 2015 was in my favor.

You'll have to come on our podcast, we seriously have a good time.

I would ruin my persona on here. :p

OT: I hope this Jan Microsoft event brings round good news. I'm really not worried. I have more games right now to finish... it's daunting. I'll need a breather to catch up. Microsoft better have something before Summer.

I'll pick up The Show, Bloodbourne, The Witcher.. and sure there are more multi-plat games that I'm missing.

I think we'll all live. It will be good ammo for systemwars.

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#44 supergokublitz
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Funk of titans

scream ride

superhot

crackdown 3

Halo 5

quantum break

fable legends

inside

ori and the blind forest

below

rise of the tomb raider

smite

state of decay year one edition

new gears?

phantom ghost (or what ever its called)

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Crackdown, Scalebound, Halo 5 and Ori and the Blind Forest, for starters.

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#46 Salt_The_Fries
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It has everything and more. And only PS4 needs "a saviour" as it always does. It's perfectly in line with their mythology.

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#47  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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@Salt_The_Fries said:

It has everything and more. And only PS4 needs "a saviour" as it always does. It's perfectly in line with their mythology.

PS4 is dominating right now dude

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@bezza2011 said:

@cainetao11: the games mentioned have no release date, and everything from xbox is looking more like end of the year, it's a poor start for them nothing until Q3, except multiplat that's fact, fanboy or not, it's slim pickings

Sort of like PS4's during points in 2014. I'll be fine with Witcher3 then Arkham

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#49  Edited By lamprey263
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permanent price cuts or good bundles I think can go a long way like it did over the holidays but MS seems determined to raise the price back up to $400 soon

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#50  Edited By PimpHand_Gamer
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One way to do it is to revitalize old games that have a huge fan base and make them exclusive. So long as they don't over update them by changing the core mechanics like they did with Thief, there is certainly a huge potential market..along with a huge lot of old games with great stories and gameplay thats' just waiting to be done right, often with nothing more than to have modern graphics and control schemes.