What excuse will cows and sheep make when Halo 3 sells 6 million copies?

The previous 2 Halo games each sold over 6 million copies.  One can fully expect Halo 3 to reach this level (or beyond), given that Gears has sold over 4 million copies.  At that point, you will probably be talking about a 50% attach rate.  Despite these numbers, Cows and Sheep will still find ways to put down the game. 

Name ONE game on the PS3 that will even come close to approaching these numbers - please!  MGS4?  :lol:  The previous games didn't do this, what makes you think #4 will?  Killflop 2?  :lol:  Lair?  Heavenly Sword?  None of these games will even come close to sniffing the level of success that Halo 3 will have - both in sales, hype, and impact on system sales.

What DireToad said, and: Pokemon.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl has a very good chance of outselling Halo 3, especially if the Wii's sales overlap the 360's.Super-Mario-Fan

[QUOTE="Super-Mario-Fan"]Super Smash Bros. Brawl has a very good chance of outselling Halo 3, especially if the Wii's sales overlap the 360's.DireToad

LOL yeah right. SSBB will sell but if you think its going to outsell halo 3 your insane. 

Why do you even care about what others will say? Just get the game and enjoy it.

I'm a PS3 owner and i'll be enjoying the games i'll get. I could care less about what games from other consoles will sell and how many copies they'll sell.

Everyone knows Halo will sell!  But will it be different enough from Halo 1 & 2 for it to stand out?

(I think it will)

halo 3 will get 6million sold, but that will take a while. Probably several years at least. Gears is selling because its the only clearly superior game on that system and it won GOTY. Halo 3 will have more competition, both from the other consoles as well as other 360 games as wellGunSmith1_basic

Several Years? Try 5 months, at the outmost. 

Name ONE game on the PS3 that will even come close to approaching these numbers - please! REVENGEotSITH

GT3 outsold Halo 2 nearly 2:1.

Gran Turismo is a huge series. GT5 will sell at least 6 million imo. 

The previous 2 Halo games each sold over 6 million copies.  One can fully expect Halo 3 to reach this level (or beyond), given that Gears has sold over 4 million copies.  At that point, you will probably be talking about a 50% attach rate.  Despite these numbers, Cows and Sheep will still find ways to put down the game. 

Name ONE game on the PS3 that will even come close to approaching these numbers - please!  MGS4?  :lol:  The previous games didn't do this, what makes you think #4 will?  Killflop 2?  :lol:  Lair?  Heavenly Sword?  None of these games will even come close to sniffing the level of success that Halo 3 will have - both in sales, hype, and impact on system sales.

REVENGEotSITH

I sure it will sell really well, that is a given!

The thread was going really well until you had to take the immature route and start bashing.

Why do you even care about what others will say? Just get the game and enjoy it.

I'm a PS3 owner and i'll be enjoying the games i'll get. I could care less about what games from other consoles will sell and how many copies they'll sell.

lusitanogamer

I can understand where he's coming from. I'm sure nobody appreciates a game they greatly enjoy, to see it get critical acclaim and then be unjustly crapped on by jealous fanboys. Can you tell me that GeoW, God of War, or Metroid prime is "overrated"?

[QUOTE="lusitanogamer"]

Why do you even care about what others will say? Just get the game and enjoy it.

I'm a PS3 owner and i'll be enjoying the games i'll get. I could care less about what games from other consoles will sell and how many copies they'll sell.

AdobeArtist

I can understand where he's coming from. I'm sure nobody appreciates a game they greatly enjoy, to see it get critical acclaim and then be unjustly crapped on by jealous fanboys. Can you tell me that GeoW, God of War, or Metroid prime is "overrated"?

Well, daily we see threads created that bash Halo 1 and Halo 2, and that say Halo 3 isn't much more than Halo 2 in HD; but the fact is - Halo is a system seller.  You can say that GT3 outsold Halo, that's fine.  I'd HOPE that with over 3 times as many PS2s sold as Xboxes, that there would be a game that outsold Halo and Halo 2. 

As it stands now, believing who you listen to, there have been ~10 million 360s sold to date.  Gears has sold 4,000,000 copies.  That's a 40% attach rate.  By the time Halo 3 comes out, we are probably talking about 12 million 360 sold.  6,000,000 copies of Halo 3 is very reasonable, given the success of the franchise, it being THE flagship title for the 360, and the amount of hype/marketing that MS will put into it. 

Given these numbers, I dare any cow out there to give me ONE game that will even come close to this success on the PS3. 

Well, daily we see threads created that bash Halo 1 and Halo 2, and that say Halo 3 isn't much more than Halo 2 in HD; but the fact is - Halo is a system seller.  You can say that GT3 outsold Halo, that's fine.  I'd HOPE that with over 3 times as many PS2s sold as Xboxes, that there would be a game that outsold Halo and Halo 2. 

As it stands now, believing who you listen to, there have been ~10 million 360s sold to date.  Gears has sold 4,000,000 copies.  That's a 40% attach rate.  By the time Halo 3 comes out, we are probably talking about 12 million 360 sold.  6,000,000 copies of Halo 3 is very reasonable, given the success of the franchise, it being THE flagship title for the 360, and the amount of hype/marketing that MS will put into it. 

Given these numbers, I dare any cow out there to give me ONE game that will even come close to this success on the PS3. 

REVENGEotSITH

Well, daily we see threads created that bash Halo 1 and Halo 2, and that say Halo 3 isn't much more than Halo 2 in HD; but the fact is - Halo is a system seller. You can say that GT3 outsold Halo, that's fine. I'd HOPE that with over 3 times as many PS2s sold as Xboxes, that there would be a game that outsold Halo and Halo 2.

As it stands now, believing who you listen to, there have been ~10 million 360s sold to date. Gears has sold 4,000,000 copies. That's a 40% attach rate. By the time Halo 3 comes out, we are probably talking about 12 million 360 sold. 6,000,000 copies of Halo 3 is very reasonable, given the success of the franchise, it being THE flagship title for the 360, and the amount of hype/marketing that MS will put into it.

Given these numbers, I dare any cow out there to give me ONE game that will even come close to this success on the PS3.

REVENGEotSITH

By the time Halo 3 comes out, we are probably talking about 12 million 360 sold.  6,000,000 copies of Halo 3 is very reasonable, given the success of the franchise, it being THE flagship title for the 360, and the amount of hype/marketing that MS will put into it. 

Given these numbers, I dare any cow out there to give me ONE game that will even come close to this success on the PS3. 

REVENGEotSITH

Gran Turismo is a huge series. GT5 will sell at least 6 million imo. 

 

diggyzoom

that would be quite a feat considering sony hasn't even announced 2 million ps3 have been sold yet...and GT5 is reported to be released in Q1 of 08....

this should be interesting...

[QUOTE="REVENGEotSITH"]

Well, daily we see threads created that bash Halo 1 and Halo 2, and that say Halo 3 isn't much more than Halo 2 in HD; but the fact is - Halo is a system seller. You can say that GT3 outsold Halo, that's fine. I'd HOPE that with over 3 times as many PS2s sold as Xboxes, that there would be a game that outsold Halo and Halo 2.

As it stands now, believing who you listen to, there have been ~10 million 360s sold to date. Gears has sold 4,000,000 copies. That's a 40% attach rate. By the time Halo 3 comes out, we are probably talking about 12 million 360 sold. 6,000,000 copies of Halo 3 is very reasonable, given the success of the franchise, it being THE flagship title for the 360, and the amount of hype/marketing that MS will put into it.

Given these numbers, I dare any cow out there to give me ONE game that will even come close to this success on the PS3.

diggyzoom

attach rates are how money is made....;)

[QUOTE="diggyzoom"]

Gran Turismo is a huge series. GT5 will sell at least 6 million imo. 

 

tango90101

that would be quite a feat considering sony hasn't even announced 2 million ps3 have been sold yet...and GT5 is reported to be released in Q1 of 08....

this should be interesting...

How much did these games sell?

• Halo CE
• Halo 2
• SSBM  

[QUOTE="diggyzoom"][QUOTE="REVENGEotSITH"]

Well, daily we see threads created that bash Halo 1 and Halo 2, and that say Halo 3 isn't much more than Halo 2 in HD; but the fact is - Halo is a system seller. You can say that GT3 outsold Halo, that's fine. I'd HOPE that with over 3 times as many PS2s sold as Xboxes, that there would be a game that outsold Halo and Halo 2.

As it stands now, believing who you listen to, there have been ~10 million 360s sold to date. Gears has sold 4,000,000 copies. That's a 40% attach rate. By the time Halo 3 comes out, we are probably talking about 12 million 360 sold. 6,000,000 copies of Halo 3 is very reasonable, given the success of the franchise, it being THE flagship title for the 360, and the amount of hype/marketing that MS will put into it.

Given these numbers, I dare any cow out there to give me ONE game that will even come close to this success on the PS3.

tango90101

attach rates are how money is made....;)

Thank you.  Too many people in these forums focus strictly on console sales and don't see the bigger picture.  If a console sells over 20 million units, but only sells 2 games per unit - how great is that?

[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="diggyzoom"]

Gran Turismo is a huge series. GT5 will sell at least 6 million imo. 

 

mmirza23

that would be quite a feat considering sony hasn't even announced 2 million ps3 have been sold yet...and GT5 is reported to be released in Q1 of 08....

this should be interesting...

i don't think the ps3 will be stuck at these levels, but i don't see any reason why it wouldn't either...

even if they match existing sales, you're sill looking at less than 5 million ps3 on the market when gt5 launches...

from previous ratios, they'll MAYBE sell one million...

How much did these games sell?

• Halo CE
• Halo 2
• SSBM

Blackbond

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Well, daily we see threads created that bash Halo 1 and Halo 2, and that say Halo 3 isn't much more than Halo 2 in HD; but the fact is - Halo is a system seller.  You can say that GT3 outsold Halo, that's fine.  I'd HOPE that with over 3 times as many PS2s sold as Xboxes, that there would be a game that outsold Halo and Halo 2. 

As it stands now, believing who you listen to, there have been ~10 million 360s sold to date.  Gears has sold 4,000,000 copies.  That's a 40% attach rate.  By the time Halo 3 comes out, we are probably talking about 12 million 360 sold.  6,000,000 copies of Halo 3 is very reasonable, given the success of the franchise, it being THE flagship title for the 360, and the amount of hype/marketing that MS will put into it. 

Given these numbers, I dare any cow out there to give me ONE game that will even come close to this success on the PS3. 

REVENGEotSITH

You said PS fan so has a Sony fan I think it going to be a while before we see anything that will sell more than 3 million copies. So yes I think Halo will outsell anything on the PS for some time to come. Has a Nintendo fan you point out that GOW has a 40% attachment rate well I will point out that Zelda has a 50% attachment rate and that without doing well in Japan. I think we are going to see Mario and SSBB out sell almost any game this year. Even thought the Sony fan hopes we may see MGS this year and that be the number 1 seller this year but I think we are not going to see that game untill next year.

[QUOTE="tango90101"]

attach rates are how money is made....;)

REVENGEotSITH

Thank you.  Too many people in these forums focus strictly on console sales and don't see the bigger picture.  If a console sells over 20 million units, but only sells 2 games per unit - how great is that?

Cows don't dare discuess attach rates because the PS3's rate is pathetic compared to the x360's.

[QUOTE="REVENGEotSITH"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

attach rates are how money is made....;)

LosDaddie

Thank you.  Too many people in these forums focus strictly on console sales and don't see the bigger picture.  If a console sells over 20 million units, but only sells 2 games per unit - how great is that?

Cows don't dare discuess attach rates because the PS3's rate is pathetic compared to the x360's.

Kinda like bringing a slingshot to a tank battle...

• SSBM = 6.58 million
• Halo CE = 6.43 Million
• Halo 2 = 7.89 Million
  

Why are peple acting like Super Smash Brothers can't outsell or come close to Halo 3? Super Smash Brothers Melee outsold Halo CE and came pretty close to Halo 2. Don't under estimate Super Smash especially if the Wii's user base continues to increase at this rate.

(The information is from VG Charts yes I know it might not be the most reliable but I'm taking it from a perspective standpoint they are all really in the same ball park) 

Sony has franchises that sell well too but they need to get the user base higher and get some games before they can sell something in the above ball park. I doubt Lair or Heavenly Sword is going to sell with the top tier franchises. But you know thats the great thing. Theres always a chance that it could and that would be wonderful if they did.

[QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="diggyzoom"]

Gran Turismo is a huge series. GT5 will sell at least 6 million imo. 

 

tango90101

that would be quite a feat considering sony hasn't even announced 2 million ps3 have been sold yet...and GT5 is reported to be released in Q1 of 08....

this should be interesting...

i don't think the ps3 will be stuck at these levels, but i don't see any reason why it wouldn't either...

even if they match existing sales, you're sill looking at less than 5 million ps3 on the market when gt5 launches...

from previous ratios, they'll MAYBE sell one million...

You said PS fan so has a Sony fan I think it going to be a while before we see anything that will sell more than 3 million copies. So yes I think Halo will outsell anything on the PS for some time to come. Has a Nintendo fan you point out that GOW has a 40% attachment rate well I will point out that Zelda has a 50% attachment rate and that without doing well in Japan. I think we are going to see Mario and SSBB out sell almost any game this year. Even thought the Sony fan hopes we may see MGS this year and that be the number 1 seller this year but I think we are not going to see that game untill next year.

HarlockJC

Zelda has done incredible when it comes to sales per console sold.  What will be the next Wii title that comes close to what Zelda has done? 

• SSBM = 6.58 million
• Halo CE = 6.43 Million
• Halo 2 = 7.89 Million
  

Why are peple acting like Super Smash Brothers can't outsell or come close to Halo 3? Super Smash Brothers Melee outsold Halo CE and came pretty close to Halo 2. Don't under estimate Super Smash especially if the Wii's user base continues to increase at this rate.

(The information is from VG Charts yes I know it might not be the most reliable but I'm taking it from a perspective standpoint they are all really in the same ball park)

Sony has franchises that sell well too but they need to get the user base higher and get some games before they can sell something in the above ball park. I doubt Lair or Heavenly Sword is going to sell with the top tier franchises. But you know thats the great thing. Theres always a chance that it could and that would be wonderful if they did.

Blackbond

Combat evolved or Custom Edition O_O 

• SSBM = 6.58 million
• Halo CE = 6.43 Million
• Halo 2 = 7.89 Million
  

Why are peple acting like Super Smash Brothers can't outsell or come close to Halo 3? Super Smash Brothers Melee outsold Halo CE and came pretty close to Halo 2. Don't under estimate Super Smash especially if the Wii's user base continues to increase at this rate.

(The information is from VG Charts yes I know it might not be the most reliable but I'm taking it from a perspective standpoint they are all really in the same ball park)

Sony has franchises that sell well too but they need to get the user base higher and get some games before they can sell something in the above ball park. I doubt Lair or Heavenly Sword is going to sell with the top tier franchises. But you know thats the great thing. Theres always a chance that it could and that would be wonderful if they did.

Blackbond

Bungie said they sold, not shipped, 8 million a while back...I dont like VG. Anyway, I just dont see SSBB outselling Halo 3. I`m not saying it cant happen, its just that I dont want to see it happen...ya know?

[QUOTE="REVENGEotSITH"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

attach rates are how money is made....;)

LosDaddie

Thank you.  Too many people in these forums focus strictly on console sales and don't see the bigger picture.  If a console sells over 20 million units, but only sells 2 games per unit - how great is that?

Cows don't dare discuess attach rates because the PS3's rate is pathetic compared to the x360's.

[QUOTE="DireToad"][QUOTE="Super-Mario-Fan"]Super Smash Bros. Brawl has a very good chance of outselling Halo 3, especially if the Wii's sales overlap the 360's.STABW0UND

LOL yeah right. SSBB will sell but if you think its going to outsell halo 3 your insane.

[QUOTE="REVENGEotSITH"]

Well, daily we see threads created that bash Halo 1 and Halo 2, and that say Halo 3 isn't much more than Halo 2 in HD; but the fact is - Halo is a system seller. You can say that GT3 outsold Halo, that's fine. I'd HOPE that with over 3 times as many PS2s sold as Xboxes, that there would be a game that outsold Halo and Halo 2.

As it stands now, believing who you listen to, there have been ~10 million 360s sold to date. Gears has sold 4,000,000 copies. That's a 40% attach rate. By the time Halo 3 comes out, we are probably talking about 12 million 360 sold. 6,000,000 copies of Halo 3 is very reasonable, given the success of the franchise, it being THE flagship title for the 360, and the amount of hype/marketing that MS will put into it.

Given these numbers, I dare any cow out there to give me ONE game that will even come close to this success on the PS3.

diggyzoom

Your point is a good one when talking about 1 specific game.  However, if a console is well-rounded, with lots of good games, then the attach rate for that console should be high (since there are lots of great games that appeal to everyone who owns the console).  The PS2 was.  The PS3 isn't.

I've been hammering the attach rate issue a lot lately, I agree.  I am doing it because it is something that is NEVER mentioned when we argue about console sales.  This is where the money is at - not in the sale of consoles.  Why else would Sony and Microsoft sell their consoles at a loss?  Because they make their money back on games sales. 

Sony said that they'd sell 5 million PS3s even if there weren't any games for it.  Man, I'd love to borrow their time machine some day and see if the Browns ever win the Super Bowl....

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

• SSBM = 6.58 million
• Halo CE = 6.43 Million
• Halo 2 = 7.89 Million
  

Why are peple acting like Super Smash Brothers can't outsell or come close to Halo 3? Super Smash Brothers Melee outsold Halo CE and came pretty close to Halo 2. Don't under estimate Super Smash especially if the Wii's user base continues to increase at this rate.

(The information is from VG Charts yes I know it might not be the most reliable but I'm taking it from a perspective standpoint they are all really in the same ball park)

Sony has franchises that sell well too but they need to get the user base higher and get some games before they can sell something in the above ball park. I doubt Lair or Heavenly Sword is going to sell with the top tier franchises. But you know thats the great thing. Theres always a chance that it could and that would be wonderful if they did.

jfkunrendered

Bungie said they sold, not shipped, 8 million a while back...I dont like VG. Anyway, I just dont see SSBB outselling Halo 3. I`m not saying it cant happen, its just that I dont want to see it happen...ya know?

VG charts perdicts numbers but they do update numbers when the NRD numbers come out to correct any mistakes. And anyways I just don't see Halo 3 outselling SSBB. I'm not saying it can't happen either, but I just think that SSBB will be a lot better than another one person shooter.

attach rates are how money is made....;)tango90101

Say console A sells 5 million units and console B sells 200 million units. Company X puts game Y out for both systems. Both versions are priced equally and cost the same to make. It sells 1 million copies on each console.
The attach rate for console A is 20%. The attach rate for console B is 0.5%. Does this mean Company X suddenly made more money off of console A because the attach rate is higher?

Answer: No. 

[QUOTE="STABW0UND"]

[QUOTE="DireToad"][QUOTE="Super-Mario-Fan"]Super Smash Bros. Brawl has a very good chance of outselling Halo 3, especially if the Wii's sales overlap the 360's.ithilgore2006

LOL yeah right. SSBB will sell but if you think its going to outsell halo 3 your insane.

halo 1 was when halo first came out so there wasnt as many fans as there are today.