what is mass effect 2 going to be like

The first one has multiple endings. How are the developers going to deal with this when they write the storyline for the 2nd. Are they just going to chose a ending and say his ending is the cannon ending. Or are they going to have it so if you have a mass effect 1 saved game file it would follow the story line on how you chose it to end, as for people who did not play mass effect 1 they could have a option at the very begining where you chose how the first ended, like the history thing in character creation.

there going to do it like mass effect 1, where the coices you make don't really do anything and always end in an oddly similar result.diped

but the multiple endiings are different at the ned of mass effect 1 one the console dies the other the console lives, also who joins the console is another thing

the greatest game ever thats what.

if they somehow manage to workout all the plot-points so that different people have different experiences depending on how the played the first (or didnt) then best game ever confirmed.

I hope we see some actual creative aliens, unlike all the humaniods in the first games. Seriously...Cedmln

not all the aliens were humanoids

It is going to be mind-blowingly awesomesauce.

I cannot wait! :D

I hope we see some actual creative aliens, unlike all the humaniods in the first games. Seriously...Cedmln

There were quite a few non-humanoids....

The Rachni and those jellyfish things, off the top of my head.

I hope we see some actual creative aliens, unlike all the humaniods in the first games. Seriously...Cedmln

Well, obviously you didn't pay attention to the game, did you?

Hopefully less shooter and more RPG. Ninja-Hippo

Agreed.

And I want my damn revolutionary conversation tree!

the greatest game ever thats what.

if they somehow manage to workout all the plot-points so that different people have different experiences depending on how the played the first (or didnt) then best game ever confirmed.

JPOBS

NO OFFENSE, but I find it funny when someone is so sure of a game and then be proven wrong. Like how Mass Effect was suppose to be goty last year. everyone posted GOTY confirmed all over the place... but nope. not even rpg of the year. rpg it lost to person 3. to don't say confirmed until you have some prof or you'll just be humilliated with the results.. again no offense.. And I'll bet this game will be awsome.. :D

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]I hope we see some actual creative aliens, unlike all the humaniods in the first games. Seriously...M337ING

There were quite a few non-humanoids....

The Rachni and those jellyfish things, off the top of my head.

Also the Elcor and those midgets that start with "D" I believe.

[QUOTE="M337ING"]

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]I hope we see some actual creative aliens, unlike all the humaniods in the first games. Seriously...FrozenLiquid

There were quite a few non-humanoids....

The Rachni and those jellyfish things, off the top of my head.

Also the Elcor and those midgets that start with "D" I believe.

The Volus? :P

[QUOTE="M337ING"]

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]I hope we see some actual creative aliens, unlike all the humaniods in the first games. Seriously...FrozenLiquid

There were quite a few non-humanoids....

The Rachni and those jellyfish things, off the top of my head.

Also the Elcor and those midgets that start with "D" I believe.

Any chance we might be able to play as a non-human?? The story can change based on the player choice, but if we always play as human it might as well be the same thing.. IMO

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="M337ING"]

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]I hope we see some actual creative aliens, unlike all the humaniods in the first games. Seriously...Technoweirdo

There were quite a few non-humanoids....

The Rachni and those jellyfish things, off the top of my head.

Also the Elcor and those midgets that start with "D" I believe.

The Volus? :P

Yes, the one starting with "V", just like I said :|

:lol:

Any chance we might be able to play as a non-human?? The story can change based on the player choice, but if we always play as human it might as well be the same thing.. IMO

Oroin

I'm no Bioware rep but I think it's safe to assume we can't. The story is playing a heavy-hand in humanity's relationship to the universe, so I don't think so.

Just wait for the Mass Effect MMO, and you'll be sweet lol.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="M337ING"]

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]I hope we see some actual creative aliens, unlike all the humaniods in the first games. Seriously...Oroin

There were quite a few non-humanoids....

The Rachni and those jellyfish things, off the top of my head.

Also the Elcor and those midgets that start with "D" I believe.

Any chance we might be able to play as a non-human?? The story can change based on the player choice, but if we always play as human it might as well be the same thing.. IMO

The story is based upon Shepard and humanity's rise in the intergalactic community, so I doubt it...

[QUOTE="M337ING"]

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]I hope we see some actual creative aliens, unlike all the humaniods in the first games. Seriously...FrozenLiquid

There were quite a few non-humanoids....

The Rachni and those jellyfish things, off the top of my head.

Also the Elcor and those midgets that start with "D" I believe.

The only ones that don't have similarities to the the humans are the Elcor and the jelly type. I don't count the rachni since they don't really play a reasonable amount of interactive as a civilized species. The rest of them are humaniods. Take on the basic shapes of a human, talk like humans, and act like humans.

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]I hope we see some actual creative aliens, unlike all the humaniods in the first games. Seriously...M337ING

There were quite a few non-humanoids....

The Rachni and those jellyfish things, off the top of my head.

compared to: the turians, the batarians, the salrians.
"too much humanoids, boo hoo"

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Hopefully less shooter and more RPG. FrozenLiquid

Agreed.

And I want my damn revolutionary conversation tree!

No thanks, Id rather they improve the interface system and control over party members so players dont have to play the game like an FPS without sacrificing anything for those who do. I actually hope they improve the FPS elements making things like knockback and placement of shots more evident as well, along with improving the RPG elements.

As for the dialogue tree, despite the gripes you have with it, you have to admit the foundation for a great system is there and occasionally showed through in ME so it hopefully will build off that and only improve.

The only ones that don't have similarities to the the humans are the Elcor and the jelly type. I don't count the rachni since they don't really play a reasonable amount of interactive as a civilized species. The rest of them are humaniods. Take on the basic shapes of a human, talk like humans, and act like humans.

Cedmln

First you're gonna have to take it with a pinch of salt that the entire cast speaks English. If you want to get truly anal about it, you should know that every nation on this Earth also has different languages, each language having different dialects and therefore inflections. So put that on a galactic scale and you'll have a job that'll take 20 years to sort out. I personally don't like that everyone speaks a one human language, but it's just to get the story across.

I'm not sure what you mean by acting like humans. I think I remember a Salarian justifying his actions simply because of the Salarian belief. If it's the way they present themselves, see the paragraph above.

As for the basic shape of humans, not sure if Bioware knows this theory, but here goes. There's a theory around that states that the most efficient physique in the our galaxy (or universe, forgot which one), that carries out conscious tasks is ours. We have a large brain for our size, two hands to carry out rudimentary tasks, two feet two travel, etc etc. We're the perfect balance between intellectual and physical.

Having seven arms and five genitals as part of your anatomy would make you:

A) Inefficient

B) Really stupid

-

So there's the justifications you were implicitly searching for.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Hopefully less shooter and more RPG. enduin

Agreed.

And I want my damn revolutionary conversation tree!

No thanks, Id rather they improve the interface system and control over party members so players dont have to play the game like an FPS without sacrificing anything for those who do. I actually hope they improve the FPS elements making things like knockback and placement of shots more evident as well, along with improving the RPG elements.

As for the dialogue tree, despite the gripes you have with it, you have to admit the foundation for a great system is there and occasionally showed through in ME so it hopefully will build off that and only improve.

You're disagreeing to less shooter and more RPG, and keeping on the fence about a better dialogue tree?

You then proceed to say that you rather improve their real-time battle elements as is, so that you don't have to play the game like an FPS. Seriously, what the hell are you trying to say?

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]

The only ones that don't have similarities to the the humans are the Elcor and the jelly type. I don't count the rachni since they don't really play a reasonable amount of interactive as a civilized species. The rest of them are humaniods. Take on the basic shapes of a human, talk like humans, and act like humans.

FrozenLiquid

First you're gonna have to take it with a pinch of salt that the entire cast speaks English. If you want to get truly anal about it, you should know that every nation on this Earth also has different languages, each language having different dialects and therefore inflections. So put that on a galactic scale and you'll have a job that'll take 20 years to sort out. I personally don't like that everyone speaks a one human language, but it's just to get the story across.

I'm not sure what you mean by acting like humans. I think I remember a Salarian justifying his actions simply because of the Salarian belief. If it's the way they present themselves, see the paragraph above.

As for the basic shape of humans, not sure if Bioware knows this theory, but here goes. There's a theory around that states that the most efficient physique in the our galaxy (or universe, forgot which one), that carries out conscious tasks is ours. We have a large brain for our size, two hands to carry out rudimentary tasks, two feet two travel, etc etc. We're the perfect balance between intellectual and physical.

Having seven arms and five genitals as part of your anatomy would make you:

A) Inefficient

B) Really stupid

-

So there's the justifications you were implicitly searching for.

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]

The only ones that don't have similarities to the the humans are the Elcor and the jelly type. I don't count the rachni since they don't really play a reasonable amount of interactive as a civilized species. The rest of them are humaniods. Take on the basic shapes of a human, talk like humans, and act like humans.

FrozenLiquid

First you're gonna have to take it with a pinch of salt that the entire cast speaks English. If you want to get truly anal about it, you should know that every nation on this Earth also has different languages, each language having different dialects and therefore inflections. So put that on a galactic scale and you'll have a job that'll take 20 years to sort out. I personally don't like that everyone speaks a one human language, but it's just to get the story across.

Isn't there one galactic language standard as there is in Star Wars with Basic?

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Cedmln"]

The only ones that don't have similarities to the the humans are the Elcor and the jelly type. I don't count the rachni since they don't really play a reasonable amount of interactive as a civilized species. The rest of them are humaniods. Take on the basic shapes of a human, talk like humans, and act like humans.

M337ING

First you're gonna have to take it with a pinch of salt that the entire cast speaks English. If you want to get truly anal about it, you should know that every nation on this Earth also has different languages, each language having different dialects and therefore inflections. So put that on a galactic scale and you'll have a job that'll take 20 years to sort out. I personally don't like that everyone speaks a one human language, but it's just to get the story across.

Isn't there one galactic language standard as there is in Star Wars with Basic?

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Cedmln"]

The only ones that don't have similarities to the the humans are the Elcor and the jelly type. I don't count the rachni since they don't really play a reasonable amount of interactive as a civilized species. The rest of them are humaniods. Take on the basic shapes of a human, talk like humans, and act like humans.

M337ING

First you're gonna have to take it with a pinch of salt that the entire cast speaks English. If you want to get truly anal about it, you should know that every nation on this Earth also has different languages, each language having different dialects and therefore inflections. So put that on a galactic scale and you'll have a job that'll take 20 years to sort out. I personally don't like that everyone speaks a one human language, but it's just to get the story across.

Isn't there one galactic language standard as there is in Star Wars with Basic?

Yep and it happened to be english.. question- what the big deal with scifi and having enlish being the basic trade language? just a small gripe I have with. :?

Complaining that aliens talk like humans is just silly. Halo has Cortana actively translating. If it bothers you that much, i'm sure you can assume there's something similar taking place in mass effect.

If you expect them to come up with languages and dialects for every race, let's all start the hype train for Mass Effect 2, releasing August 2012.

[QUOTE="M337ING"]

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]I hope we see some actual creative aliens, unlike all the humaniods in the first games. Seriously...JPOBS

There were quite a few non-humanoids....

The Rachni and those jellyfish things, off the top of my head.

compared to: the turians, the batarians, the salrians.
"too much humanoids, boo hoo"

[QUOTE="M337ING"]

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]I hope we see some actual creative aliens, unlike all the humaniods in the first games. Seriously...JPOBS

There were quite a few non-humanoids....

The Rachni and those jellyfish things, off the top of my head.

compared to: The Krogan, the Quarians, the Asari, the turians, the batarians, the salrians.
"too much humanoids, boo hoo"

• I'll accept the Rachni as non-humanoids.
• No one knows what a Prothean looks like so it's impossible to cIassify them as non-humanoids nor is it possible to cIassify them as humanoids.
• The Geth are machines of various forms so I'll let them slide.
• The Elcor are non-humanoids.
• The jellyfish (I don't think anyone remembers what they're called :lol:) are non-humanoids.
• The Volus, size and physical ability aside, could arguably be considered humanoid.
• The Reapers...Yeah I don't know. Could be midgets piloting giant ships for all I know. :P

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]

The only ones that don't have similarities to the the humans are the Elcor and the jelly type. I don't count the rachni since they don't really play a reasonable amount of interactive as a civilized species. The rest of them are humaniods. Take on the basic shapes of a human, talk like humans, and act like humans.

FrozenLiquid

First you're gonna have to take it with a pinch of salt that the entire cast speaks English.

--RESPONSE: I deleted the rest of the paragraphs because you misunderstand what i mean't. I mean the manner in which they speak, not the voices or language.

I'm not sure what you mean by acting like humans. I think I remember a Salarian justifying his actions simply because of the Salarian belief. If it's the way they present themselves, see the paragraph above.

--REPONSE: The have basic human behaviors. Their religous/cultural (and such) beliefs are generally no different than all the humans in real life.

As for the basic shape of humans, not sure if Bioware knows this theory, but here goes. There's a theory around that states that the most efficient physique in the our galaxy (or universe, forgot which one), that carries out conscious tasks is ours. We have a large brain for our size, two hands to carry out rudimentary tasks, two feet two travel, etc etc. We're the perfect balance between intellectual and physical.

--RESPONSE: No. This is the way the developers made it. They didn't base this game on reality. And there is no proof for that scientific theory.

There you go. I'm done.

Complaining that aliens talk like humans is just silly. Halo has Cortana actively translating. If it bothers you that much, i'm sure you can assume there's something similar taking place in mass effect.

If you expect them to come up with languages and dialects for every race, let's all start the hype train for Mass Effect 2, releasing August 2012.

Ninja-Hippo

2012 would be pushing it. It'd take forever to come out for a video game.

Isn't there one galactic language standard as there is in Star Wars with Basic?

M337ING

Yep. Long, long ago, in a galaxy far, far away.....

They spoke frickin' English.

Good one, George :roll:.

-

Yeah it's just to keep the story flowing. It's probably the standard for space operas like Mass Effect and Star Wars.

[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="M337ING"]

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]I hope we see some actual creative aliens, unlike all the humaniods in the first games. Seriously...Shinobishyguy

There were quite a few non-humanoids....

The Rachni and those jellyfish things, off the top of my head.

compared to: the turians, the batarians, the salrians.
"too much humanoids, boo hoo"

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="M337ING"]

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]I hope we see some actual creative aliens, unlike all the humaniods in the first games. Seriously...JPOBS

There were quite a few non-humanoids....

The Rachni and those jellyfish things, off the top of my head.

compared to: the turians, the batarians, the salrians.
"too much humanoids, boo hoo"

What secret ending?? :?

[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="M337ING"]

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]I hope we see some actual creative aliens, unlike all the humaniods in the first games. Seriously...Technoweirdo

There were quite a few non-humanoids....

The Rachni and those jellyfish things, off the top of my head.

compared to: The Krogan, the Quarians, the Asari, the turians, the batarians, the salrians.
"too much humanoids, boo hoo"

• I'll accept the Rachni as non-humanoids.
• No one knows what a Prothean looks like so it's impossible to cIassify them as non-humanoids nor is it possible to cIassify them as humanoids.
• The Geth are machines of various forms so I'll let them slide.
• The Elcor are non-humanoids.
• The jellyfish (I don't think anyone remembers what they're called :lol:) are non-humanoids.
• The Volus, size and physical ability aside, could arguably be considered humanoid.
• The Reapers...Yeah I don't know. Could be midgets piloting giant ships for all I know. :P

[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="M337ING"]

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]I hope we see some actual creative aliens, unlike all the humaniods in the first games. Seriously...Technoweirdo

There were quite a few non-humanoids....

The Rachni and those jellyfish things, off the top of my head.

compared to: The Krogan, the Quarians, the Asari, the turians, the batarians, the salrians.
"too much humanoids, boo hoo"

• The Reapers...Yeah I don't know. Could be midgets piloting giant ships for all I know. :P

What secret ending?? :?

Oroin

[QUOTE="Technoweirdo"][QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="M337ING"]

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]I hope we see some actual creative aliens, unlike all the humaniods in the first games. Seriously...Shinobishyguy

There were quite a few non-humanoids....

The Rachni and those jellyfish things, off the top of my head.

compared to: The Krogan, the Quarians, the Asari, the turians, the batarians, the salrians.
"too much humanoids, boo hoo"

• The Reapers...Yeah I don't know. Could be midgets piloting giant ships for all I know. :P

Damn I need to finish watching that. >.>

could be like what was done in kotor 2. there could be questions asked about the events that took place in the first game and that the second one will be based on. CaseyWegner

What would people have question about?? I thought everything was explained very well. Just who was really behined it was all I have a question about..

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]could be like what was done in kotor 2. there could be questions asked about the events that took place in the first game and that the second one will be based on. Oroin

What would people have question about?? I thought everything was explained very well. Just who was really behined it was all I have a question about..

i don't see what that has to do with what i posted. :?

[QUOTE="enduin"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Hopefully less shooter and more RPG. FrozenLiquid

Agreed.

And I want my damn revolutionary conversation tree!

No thanks, Id rather they improve the interface system and control over party members so players dont have to play the game like an FPS without sacrificing anything for those who do. I actually hope they improve the FPS elements making things like knockback and placement of shots more evident as well, along with improving the RPG elements.

As for the dialogue tree, despite the gripes you have with it, you have to admit the foundation for a great system is there and occasionally showed through in ME so it hopefully will build off that and only improve.

You're disagreeing to less shooter and more RPG, and keeping on the fence about a better dialogue tree?

You then proceed to say that you rather improve their real-time battle elements as is, so that you don't have to play the game like an FPS. Seriously, what the hell are you trying to say?

[spoiler] The rachni choice (which really leads to nothing anyway), the 2 on Virmire and the very end. [/spoiler]

Every other conversation in the main quest (Anderson, Udina, Council, Nihilus, Saren, Sovereign, Kirrahe, Benezia, the Feros people etc.) goes in the exact same direction regardless. That's disregarding the occasions where people do things anyway, even if you tell them not to. "No Ashley/Tali/Liara/Garrus, I don't want you to join me", "Meh, I'm doing it anyway". "You know Hackett, I don't care about the Geth Incursions, I won't deal with it", "Nonsense, I'm giving you the quest anyway". "No Elizabeth, I don't want the grenade upgrade to deal with the thorians", "Nah, I'm giving you the upgrade anyway" (You can say no three times, but they still give it to you and they treat you the same way even if you don't use it). "No Liara, I don't want you to look at the vision", "I'm going to anyway".

Illusionary choices are so annoying.

There you go. I'm done.

Cedmln

You opening up a can of worms on someone who actually thinks about universe building on a daily basis? You're done, but I'm not.

The manner in which they speak: it's meant to let you, the young adult gamer, who knows nothing of alien customs and behaviours, to understand where they're coming from. Got that? Good, now let's move on.

Having basic human behaviours is a given for a creature that is one the same level of intelligence and size as any of us. Why would you expect any different? Coz their planet's temperature has a higher average of 20 degrees? Why would their religious behaviours be any different from ours? If they evolved in in relatively the same way as us, from small microscopic lifeforms to their version of cavemen, to futuristic space people, they would have probably gone through the same beliefs as we did, wouldn't they? I mean, every ancient civilzation has a Creation story as a means to reason with their existence, so why not expand that to every civilization in the galaxy?

Lastly, the developers may not know the theory, but they're smart enough not to make crazy ass assumptions. Your anatomy has a function. We use that function on a daily basis. According to Bioware, in the future we used our function to discover Mass Relays, and from there we found a network of alien civilizations. Who would've thought that those that also discovered it were much like us. And note how the more interesting looking alien species are at the bottom of the alien hierarchy.

You sir, just got served ;)

[QUOTE="Oroin"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]could be like what was done in kotor 2. there could be questions asked about the events that took place in the first game and that the second one will be based on. CaseyWegner

What would people have question about?? I thought everything was explained very well. Just who was really behined it was all I have a question about..

i don't see what that has to do with what i posted. :?

sorry misread.. My bad, thought youmeant, 2nd would explain everything 1st didn't.. sorry my bad...:P k?