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#1 lasseeb
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I see alot of hate on COD saying that it's the same thing every darn year. I agree, but what does the Battlefield series do to keep it new? Nearly nothing.

All millitary shooters are the same, every year. Cod,Battlefield,Medal of Honor.

So don't think that you are a better person just because you chosse to play Battlefield. Me? I'm not buying a single multiplayer fps shooter for the rest of the year...

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The difference between Battlefield 2142, Bad Company 2, and Battlefield 3 is quite evident, not too mention they are not yearly releases. And to top it all off, CoD (post 4) just sucks.

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#3 Jynxzor
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The name: It's not called CoD at least. Not that I'll be buying either myself.
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#4 lawlessx
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I see alot of hate on COD saying that it's the same thing every darn year. I agree, but what does the Battlefield series do to keep it new? Nearly nothing.

lasseeb

Clearly you didn't research the battlefield series before creating this thread

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#5 eboyishere
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because it's not a yearly release if BF had a yearly release since it first started(which i dont think it did) then it would also receive hate
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#6 DroidPhysX
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How is Battlefield the same every year when a true sequel to Battlefield 2 hasn't been released in like 6 years? :|

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#7 lasseeb
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[QUOTE="lasseeb"]

I see alot of hate on COD saying that it's the same thing every darn year. I agree, but what does the Battlefield series do to keep it new? Nearly nothing.

lawlessx

Clearly you didn't research the battlefield series before creating this thread

Clearly you are wrong. I even own BF and COD games myself. Both of them have the same boring gameplay every year with new graphics, weapons, maps.
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#8 funsohng
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If it's the same battlefield game as I remember it, it's very different.
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#9 gmaster456
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The difference between Battlefield 2142, Bad Company 2, and Battlefield 3 is quite evident, not too mention they are not yearly releases. And to top it all off, CoD (post 4) just sucks.

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This guy pretty much sums it up
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#10 eboyishere
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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

The difference between Battlefield 2142, Bad Company 2, and Battlefield 3 is quite evident, not too mention they are not yearly releases. And to top it all off, CoD (post 4) just sucks.

gmaster456

This guy pretty much sums it up

cod 3 still gets the crown for the worst game in the series

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#11 sethman410
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[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

[QUOTE="gmaster456"][QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

The difference between Battlefield 2142, Bad Company 2, and Battlefield 3 is quite evident, not too mention they are not yearly releases. And to top it all off, CoD (post 4) just sucks.

This guy pretty much sums it up

cod 3 still gets the crown for the worst game in the series

Hush up haters... The difference between yearly Cod is also quite evident. Wow.
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#12 DragonfireXZ95
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Let's see here. 64 players. Destructible environments. 'Nuff said.
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#13 el3m2tigre
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[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

[QUOTE="gmaster456"] This guy pretty much sums it upsethman410

cod 3 still gets the crown for the worst game in the series

Hush up haters... The difference between yearly Cod is also quite evident. Wow.

Nope.avi

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#14 Teuf_
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Who cares if it's new or refreshing? It looks ****ing awesome.

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#15 lasseeb
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Let's see here. 64 players. Destructible environments. 'Nuff said.

Doesn't change the fact that it's still a normal mindless FPS. Just run and shoot. And you win. HOORAY! Just face it. The Battlefield series hasnt done anything revelutionary to the FPS franchise in a couple of years. And cod only did 1 thing which makes it succesfull.and it's killstreaks! But nothing new for the 4 games that came after COD4. The entire millitary FPS's are getting old.
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[QUOTE="lasseeb"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Let's see here. 64 players. Destructible environments. 'Nuff said.

Doesn't change the fact that it's still a normal mindless FPS. Just run and shoot. And you win. HOORAY! Just face it. The Battlefield series hasnt done anything revelutionary to the FPS franchise in a couple of years. And cod only did 1 thing which makes it succesfull.and it's killstreaks! But nothing new for the 4 games that came after COD4. The entire millitary FPS's are getting old.

Nice try, but it sounds like you haven't even played Battlefield before. You can medic/revive people, give ammo, and drive/fly vehicles. Yeah, sounds like you just run and shoot for sure. :roll:
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[QUOTE="lasseeb"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Let's see here. 64 players. Destructible environments. 'Nuff said.

Doesn't change the fact that it's still a normal mindless FPS. Just run and shoot. And you win. HOORAY! Just face it. The Battlefield series hasnt done anything revelutionary to the FPS franchise in a couple of years. And cod only did 1 thing which makes it succesfull.and it's killstreaks! But nothing new for the 4 games that came after COD4. The entire millitary FPS's are getting old.

lolwut? you have not played BF, if you claim you have you are either lying or you only played for 10 minutes...battlefield is a terrible game for "run and gun" because you die really fast and the checkpoints are really scarce, you can also drive vehicles and I mean drive them freely not controlling the turret like it is in COD, you can also support your teammates way better, you can even jump from a plane and use a damned chute. its not a normal fps, and its certainly not mindless either, there is much more tactical brain in BF than there is in the whole COD serie.
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#18 -RocBoys9489-
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When you're playing an intense 64 player conquest match on PC and are suppressing the enemy and covering your squad, while watching your friendly tank have a battle with another, and see a jet zoom over and take out the friendly tank, all while playing 1080p 60FPS w/ destructible environments, you'll understand.
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#19 DJ419
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I'll let you know once the game is out.

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#20 Heil68
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Who cares if it's new or refreshing? It looks ****ing awesome.

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That's a good enough reason. :P
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When you're playing an intense 64 player conquest match on PC and are suppressing the enemy and covering your squad, while watching your friendly tank have a battle with another, and see a jet zoom over and take out the friendly tank, all while playing 1080p 60FPS w/ destructible environments, you'll understand.-RocBoys9489-
This, plus surrounding buildings collapsing around you. This situation is awesome.
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It's not called CoD and there's an actually somewhat different to it's predecessor

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#23 Ikouze
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MW3 has used the same engine it had 4 years ago. BF3 looks better because it's on a diffrent engine. Even though it's shooting things, I feel like it'll be a fun game even still. It'll just feel diffrent from other FPS'es you know?

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#24 JoeJoeLaker
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More realistic than CoD.

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#25 ImSwordMan
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="lasseeb"]

I see alot of hate on COD saying that it's the same thing every darn year. I agree, but what does the Battlefield series do to keep it new? Nearly nothing.

lasseeb

Clearly you didn't research the battlefield series before creating this thread

Clearly you are wrong. I even own BF and COD games myself. Both of them have the same boring gameplay every year with new graphics, weapons, maps.

Then why do you buy them if you know this :|

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#26 unknown37
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BF2 and BFBC2 play nothing alike. 2142 is different enough to distinguish itself from the other games. If you do indeed own them go play them again and see for yourself.

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#27 campzor
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Let's see here. 64 players. Destructible environments. 'Nuff said.

64 players was in bf2
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#28 gandaf007
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Let's see here. 64 players. Destructible environments. 'Nuff said.campzor
64 players was in bf2

However, this gen there have been few games that do (Warband, MAG, Resistance are the only that come to my mind instantly), plus destrctible environments in mass is something even fewer games do. Along with the good graphics, sound, solid gunplay and vehicle combat it's drastically different from other FPSs that are out on the market right now.

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#29 NerubianWeaver
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Nothing substantial. People just overpraise the BF series and join the Cod hate bandwagon but CoD is still the best online Fps this gen.
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I'm getting both, they're both gonna be great games :),.
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#31 Vaasman
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Nothing substantial. People just overpraise the BF series and join the Cod hate bandwagon but CoD is still the best online Fps this gen. NerubianWeaver
BC2 smears the floor with MW2 and Black Ops.

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#32 TSNAKE617
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Good level design, which is something most games forget to include in their multiplayer.

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#33 CuRle_
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I see alot of hate on COD saying that it's the same thing every darn year. I agree, but what does the Battlefield series do to keep it new? Nearly nothing.

All millitary shooters are the same, every year. Cod,Battlefield,Medal of Honor.

So don't think that you are a better person just because you chosse to play Battlefield. Me? I'm not buying a single multiplayer fps shooter for the rest of the year...

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Come back when you've actually played a few Battlefield games.
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I see alot of hate on COD saying that it's the same thing every darn year. I agree, but what does the Battlefield series do to keep it new? Nearly nothing.

All millitary shooters are the same, every year. Cod,Battlefield,Medal of Honor.

So don't think that you are a better person just because you chosse to play Battlefield. Me? I'm not buying a single multiplayer fps shooter for the rest of the year...

lasseeb

Nothing "new", just that Battlefield has meaningful class system, squad system, vehicles, encourages teamwork more, etc. In COD there really isn't "classes" as you can pretty much just choose whatever weapons you want and assign it to any class. There isn't any meaning to it other than sniper, shotgun, rifle, etc In Battlefield depending on what class you get, you get certain tools which can be very important, I.e. in Bad Company 2 - (Engineer = repair tool, anti-tank mine, RPG),(Medic = health packs, defribulator, Machine Guns),(Sniper = mortar strikes, motion sensors, sniper rifles, ghillie suit)(Assualt = grenade launchers, smoke, ammo reload packs, etc). It's not a perfect system as in Bad Company 2 the medic is a crazily overused class because of the combination of the M60 and the ability to revive/heal, but for the most part the balance between shooting and vehicle play is great in this series.

In COD things like "chopper gunner" and mortar strikes are typically given as cheap "killstreaks", tanks are hardly present at all (World at War there might be 1 tank on a map, in other COD games you get NOTHING because the maps are too small). In Battlefield it's part of the game at all times with maps that are huge compared to COD. Air/land/sea vehicles are scattered over the map and at your bases and anyone can hop in one to get to the objectives. Unlike Modern Warfare you get FULL CONTROL over the helicopters, and you can be pilot, gunner, or you can just go along for the ride in a Blackhawk, the helicopters can carry like 5 players at a time with all human players piloting and shooting (again unlike COD where it's basically autopilot). Some of the maps have epic battles with 3 or 4 tanks and a couple of jeeps on each team. Mortar Strikes and laser guided missles are available to recon/sniper class at all times, etc...

These things completely change the feel of the game and just makes it feel much more substnial with these huge maps and vehicle gameplay. The maps are so spacious that you can sit back and feel like you are sniping from a mile away, yet when you are attacking objectives it feels like stuff is always blowing up around you. It also feels good to take out tanks with C4 or anti-tank mines.

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#35 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Let's see here. 64 players. Destructible environments. 'Nuff said.

64 players was in bf2

Not combined with destructible environments. :P
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#36 HaloPimp978
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Because BF isn't a yearly release every year.

All the versions of BF are different.

And the graphics compared to MW3 aren't even close

More Realistic

Not to mention 64 players :D

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because it's not a yearly release if BF had a yearly release since it first started(which i dont think it did) then it would also receive hateeboyishere

Actually you guys are (technically) wrong.

See, BC2 came ou in 2010, even if it was early it was still 2010. 1943 came out in 2009, BC1 in 2008 Northern Strike in 2007 and 2142 in 2006.

I know you might be thinking "OMG 1943 is DLC and its not exactly 12 months later and Northern Strike is an expansion!!!", but generally Infinity Ward is given an entire two years to make each Call of Duty. In the span of 4 years, DICE has made (or helped) with the following:

Mirror's Edge

Battlefield: 2142: Northern Strike

Battlefield: Bad Company

Battlefield: Bad Company 2

Battlefield 1943

Battlefield 3

Medal of Honor (multiplayer)

Battlefield Heroes

Battlefield Online

Battlefield Play4Free

and several other expansions and collaborations.

Infinity Ward on the other hand, has made (since 2007)

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3

Don't get me wrong, I prefer the BF series and all, but the yearly release angle is just a lie from what I see. If you want to bring up the lack of changes for MW then fine, but when it comes to constant releases the BF series is pretty bad.

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[QUOTE="eboyishere"]because it's not a yearly release if BF had a yearly release since it first started(which i dont think it did) then it would also receive hateSPYDER0416

Actually you guys are (technically) wrong.

See, BC2 came ou in 2010, even if it was early it was still 2010. 1943 came out in 2009, BC1 in 2008 Northern Strike in 2007 and 2142 in 2006.

I know you might be thinking "OMG 1943 is DLC and its not exactly 12 months later and Northern Strike is an expansion!!!", but generally Infinity Ward is given an entire two years to make each Call of Duty. In the span of 4 years, DICE has made (or helped) with the following:

Mirror's Edge

Battlefield: 2142: Northern Strike

Battlefield: Bad Company

Battlefield: Bad Company 2

Battlefield 1943

Battlefield 3

Medal of Honor (multiplayer)

Battlefield Heroes

Battlefield Online

Battlefield Play4Free

and several other expansions and collaborations.

Infinity Ward on the other hand, has made (since 2007)

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3

Don't get me wrong, I prefer the BF series and all, but the yearly release angle is just a lie from what I see. If you want to bring up the lack of changes for MW then fine, but when it comes to constant releases the BF series is pretty bad.

How can you count Mirror's Edge in this :? But your list is valid. Dice can produce quality shooters faster than Infinity Ward :P

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#39 RandomWinner
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I'll be playing it. Maybe someone here will be lucky enough to be in my squad. I will make everyone's experience unique and fresh one by one. This feature is absent from CoD.

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#40 mitu123
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BF2 and BFBC2 play nothing alike. 2142 is different enough to distinguish itself from the other games. If you do indeed own them go play them again and see for yourself.

unknown37

This, I love it when people think they are alike when they clearly aren't. In fact, there are those that wished BC2 was more like BF2, but of course BC2 wasn't designed to be that way.

Run n gun won't get you far either TC, you need teamwork, capturing a flag or arming/disarming m-coms is impossible to do alone.

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[QUOTE="eboyishere"]because it's not a yearly release if BF had a yearly release since it first started(which i dont think it did) then it would also receive hate

BF 1942 - 2002 The Road To Rome Expansion - 2003 Secret Weapons of WW2 Expansion - 2003 BF Vietnam - 2004 BF2 - 2004 Special Forces Expansion - 2005 Battlefield 2 Modern Combat -2005 Euro Force + Armored Fury BF2 Boosters - 2006 Battlefield 2142 - 2006 Northern Strike 2142 Booster - 2007 Bad Company - 2008 Heroes and 1943 - 2009 Bad Company 2, Vietnam and BF Online - 2010 Battlefield Play4Free and Battlefield 3 - 2011 Yup, it's like they're barely even making money out of the franchise!!! BF3 is still mixed in my eyes, everytime they're doing something cinematic it's amazing and then they start shooting and I dunno, it's just looks like every other first person shooter only prettier.
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#42 USBxDVD
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Lol at your avatar. Is that what youre doing right now after seeing all the COD hate? COD blows in my opnion.

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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Let's see here. 64 players. Destructible environments. 'Nuff said.lasseeb
Doesn't change the fact that it's still a normal mindless FPS. Just run and shoot. And you win. HOORAY! Just face it. The Battlefield series hasnt done anything revelutionary to the FPS franchise in a couple of years. And cod only did 1 thing which makes it succesfull.and it's killstreaks! But nothing new for the 4 games that came after COD4. The entire millitary FPS's are getting old.

Wait...what? Sounds like the people I get stuck with when playing conquest. :evil:

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#44 CuRle_
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[QUOTE="lasseeb"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Let's see here. 64 players. Destructible environments. 'Nuff said.

Doesn't change the fact that it's still a normal mindless FPS. Just run and shoot. And you win. HOORAY!

You just proved you've never actually played a BF game. In BC2, for example, it is much easier to win a game playing as a medic and doing nothing but reviving and healing people.
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#45 kraken2109
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Battlefield actually gets new engines, rather than being the same game just with different guns and maps. Modern CoD games are basically CoD4 expansion packs.

The most similar Battlefield games are BC1 and BC2, and even between them there is a clear difference.

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#46 cyborg100000
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Cutting edge graphics and animation.

Large, BF2-style maps.

64 player support.

Improved sound quality and combat feel.

Jets are back.

More destruction than previous games.

A higher quality campaign than previous BF's...

People who expect something so wildly different that they don't even know what should look else where than a semi-realistic military game, there's not much else you could improve upon or add.

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#47 lasseeb
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="lasseeb"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Let's see here. 64 players. Destructible environments. 'Nuff said.

Doesn't change the fact that it's still a normal mindless FPS. Just run and shoot. And you win. HOORAY! Just face it. The Battlefield series hasnt done anything revelutionary to the FPS franchise in a couple of years. And cod only did 1 thing which makes it succesfull.and it's killstreaks! But nothing new for the 4 games that came after COD4. The entire millitary FPS's are getting old.

lolwut? you have not played BF, if you claim you have you are either lying or you only played for 10 minutes...battlefield is a terrible game for "run and gun" because you die really fast and the checkpoints are really scarce, you can also drive vehicles and I mean drive them freely not controlling the turret like it is in COD, you can also support your teammates way better, you can even jump from a plane and use a damned chute. its not a normal fps, and its certainly not mindless either, there is much more tactical brain in BF than there is in the whole COD serie.

I have played battlefield :| You don't have to belive me. You know that.
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#49 lasseeb
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Nothing substantial. People just overpraise the BF series and join the Cod hate bandwagon but CoD is still the best online Fps this gen. NerubianWeaver
I agree. But COD is far from the best online FPS this gen. Not even Battlefield is. The games are all so similar, with 5 hours uninteresting campaigns.
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#50 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="bobbetybob"][QUOTE="eboyishere"]because it's not a yearly release if BF had a yearly release since it first started(which i dont think it did) then it would also receive hate

BF 1942 - 2002 The Road To Rome Expansion - 2003 Secret Weapons of WW2 Expansion - 2003 BF Vietnam - 2004 BF2 - 2004 Special Forces Expansion - 2005 Battlefield 2 Modern Combat -2005 Euro Force + Armored Fury BF2 Boosters - 2006 Battlefield 2142 - 2006 Northern Strike 2142 Booster - 2007 Bad Company - 2008 Heroes and 1943 - 2009 Bad Company 2, Vietnam and BF Online - 2010 Battlefield Play4Free and Battlefield 3 - 2011 Yup, it's like they're barely even making money out of the franchise!!! BF3 is still mixed in my eyes, everytime they're doing something cinematic it's amazing and then they start shooting and I dunno, it's just looks like every other first person shooter only prettier.

yes I also tried this argument and people showed me it didnt worked. most of the games in those lists are EXPANSIONS and they are really different from each other, thats why its not bad, its not the same crap as always like in COD or any activision game that gets yearly releases.