What is the best new I.P of this Console Generation?

Of those, Uncharted. Overall, I think Darksiders has the most potential for being fleshed out and expanded upon.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="sethman410"]It's gotta be batman. Anyone who doesn't choose Batman is not a gamer. Well, that was a bit harsh. I meant that they aren't "true gamers". sethman410

Bastion...the game is just too awesome for words....

[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Batman isn't a new franchise.DarkLink77

gta4 and mass effect came out in 2007, the year after gears. You think they would have time when they were already in developement when gears came out, to all of sudden add cover mechanics in less than months before release?

I fail to see why there is need to any options other than Mass Effect. It is the clear winner...

I fail to see why there is need to any options other than Mass Effect. It is the clear winner...

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Mass Effect

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I fail to see why there is need to any options other than Mass Effect. It is the clear winner...

sethman410

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="sethman410"] ....Batman from generations ago doesn't count. Because the new ones aren't related to the older ones. And how is gears the most important franchise? It ever slightly influenced vaquish or uncharted.sethman410

gta4 and mass effect came out in 2007, the year after gears. You think they would have time when they were already in developement when gears came out, to all of sudden add cover mechanics in less than months before release?

And Mass Effect. And GTA. And if by "ever so slightly" you mean they straight-up ripped the cover mechanics from it, then yeah, "ever so slightly." :roll:DarkLink77

gta4 and mass effect came out in 2007, the year after gears. You think they would have time when they were already in developement when gears came out, to all of sudden add cover mechanics in less than months before release?

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="sethman410"] No they didn't copy gears cover mechanics...at least for vanquish and uncharted. gta4 and mass effect might have, but how u know?

gta4 and mass effect came out in 2007, the year after gears. You think they would have time when they were already in developement when gears came out, to all of sudden add cover mechanics in less than months before release?

sethman410

I doubt it, considering how similar it is, and how much they've openly admitted that Uncharted was a reaction to Gears.

Wow I love each franchise in the poll so much that i feel bad for voting , a cow inside of me is leaning towards UC but I'll resist it and not vote lol , I think to estabilish itself the new ip needs at least 1 sequel , so , nice options there.

1. Uncharted

2. Mass Effect

3. InFamous

4. Assassin's Creed

5. Little Big Planet

6. Batman Arkham Asylum/City

My favorite is Mass Effect.

Gears of War and Uncharted are very close seconds though.

Eh ... ME2 is good but both ME games have a ton of problems. I like the universes in those games more than the games themselves.Haziqonfire

Console generation? Ok PC out of the way, and out of that list, I'd pick Gears--but taking into consideration that after the second one I got a bit tired of it, I'm going to go with AC: Which kind of surprises me.

That said, the generation is still going. There are a lot of games for consoles that I still feel could take the spot before the gen is over--Last Guardian for instance.

Personally? I have no idea. Portal comes to mind, and hell even Mirror's Edge--I very much enjoyed the game, despite its flaws. I'm sure there are other IP's this gen on consoles that I would put here, but nothing is coming to mind at the moment.

[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Considering how poorly they were implemented in comparison? Yeah. A year is a long ass time in game development.DarkLink77

I doubt it, considering how similar it is, and how much they've openly admitted that Uncharted was a reaction to Gears.

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[QUOTE="sethman410"] Ok.. but still, Gears didn't influence Uncharted or Vanquish. But how you know it affected Mass Effect or GTA4, is there any links? Naughty Dog had the idea way long before Gears came out.sethman410

I doubt it, considering how similar it is, and how much they've openly admitted that Uncharted was a reaction to Gears.

[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] No links, but common sense. Look at how many TPS games had cover before Gears. Now look after Gears. It kind of speaks for itself.

I doubt it, considering how similar it is, and how much they've openly admitted that Uncharted was a reaction to Gears.

DarkLink77

EDIT: But ND had the idea of cover system before Gears, maybe they polished it more and changed it little after learning from Gears. Like how Gears implented the system. But idk if that's the case, we both don't know the reaction ND had to Gears. So, you can't use this example, its not reliable. What if the reaction was graphics!

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="sethman410"] So, your're kinda contradicting yourself. Lot of TPS had cover before Gears therefore Gears IS NOT the most important new I.P. this generation.http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/eight-days-tech-demos/9039 This game has been development for a long time before Gears, and Uncharted was the reason why this game has been cancelled. So, I dont think ND's reaction to Gears was adding cover mechanics... if this was the case then what the hell kind of game were they making that had no cover? ND is far more talented than that.sethman410

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] They admitted Uncharted would have been significantly different ha it not been for Gears, but Sony wanted to compete in that market. What games had cover systems besides Kill.switch? Can you name 5?DarkLink77

EDIT: And I just used Eight Days as an example and it's far more advanced than Gears. Look how the players switch spots and look how realistic the animations are, this is way before Gears came out.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="sethman410"] No... but Gears isn't the first with 3rd person cover mechanics. To answer your question, Eight Days is without a doubt one of them. And please counter argue my claim on Vanquish.

sethman410

Dark Souls by miles imo

It's the most important and the most influential. What claim?DarkLink77

Batman Arkham series probally.

Also you can't go wrong with Gears, Mass Effect or Uncharted.

The best, I guess Uncharted if you go by rewards and so on. Too bad, I absolutely despise the series. They represent everything I hate about gaming, especially the whole cinematic gaming plague the industry is suffering from.

My favorite is Mount & Blade. I played Warband for nearly 600 hours, With Fire and Sword was definately disappointing, but Warband is one of the best games I have ever played. And I really cant wait for Taleworlds' next product (as WFAS was done mostly by other devs). The original Mount and Blade was great as well, but became obsolete the moment warband hit the shelves, with the exception of some mods though.

Assassins Creed.

Batman Arkham series probally.

Also you can't go wrong with Gears, Mass Effect or Uncharted.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="sethman410"] That Gears slightly influenced Vanquish, if not at all. What if Vanquish came out before Gears, wouldn't you say that Vanquish is the most important new I.P? It can't be the most important, but it could be the most influental. That devs could learn how Gears implented the cover system. Because if Gears never existed, Vanquish is there.

sethman410

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The poll results make me want to cry.

DarkLink77

From the poll, the most important new franchise is Gears, so that's what I'd vote for.

Why is it the most important? why should gamers pay attention to it's importance? and why didn't you call it the best ? the poll is about the best.

[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] The "what if this didn't exist" argument is flawed because there's no way to know "what if."DarkLink77

EDIT: Honestly, is it hard to bring up the idea of "cover system" for any dev? Especially when Killswitch and Eight Daysexisted before Gears? I do agree somewhat that Gears do influence some games with cover system, only because it is the most polished cover system around. But you can't just call Uncharted, Vanquish, GTA4, or Mass Effect "Gears clones".

EDIT 2: And seriously, if you think that arguement was pretending. Than your arguement of using "its speaking for itself" is also pretending.

Demons Souls / Dark Souls for me.

Best I.P.? Wow, I don't know... My favorite new franchise is probably Mass Effect, but I surely would rather own the IP rights for Wii series. :P So it's a tough question. Maybe Assassins' Creed would be a good compromise between decent critical acclaim and profitability.

Either way, voted Mass Effect for fun.

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[QUOTE="Deniable_Ops"] What's so awful about Mass Effect?Heroldp813

Since you dont like AC or Mass Effect, What game do you like?

[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] The "what if this didn't exist" argument is flawed because there's no way to know "what if."DarkLink77

But then the ND reaction is flawed as well. Eight Days is more advanced than Gears in terms of cover system, look how players switch spots and look how realistic the animations are and this was way before Gears came out. Therefore, Gears is not the most important, its such a bs claim. It doesn't matter if Gears exist or not, Mass Effect, Uncharted, and GTA4 would still have cover systems. ND would react to Vanquish instead then. sethman410

Mass Effect, if ripping of Blade Runner (brilliantly) counts as a new IP!

Also love the Batman AA/AC series. Only Spider Man 2 has really lived up to the super hero potential before this. Side scrolling beat em ups with an identikit movesets for all characters except for a special move, a one on one beat em up where spiderman can only swing to kick.Batman AA had you really be batman. Warts and all. And it was amazing.