What is the WORST thing about this gen IYO?

[QUOTE="ArchoNils2"]DLC usually has their own budget and wouldn't be part of the final game if it wasn't for DLC. Sure you can say "we never know", but I'm pretty sure we would see about the same content in our games even if there isn't DLC, but instead of DLC we would see more expansion packs. Oh and I take DLC any day over re-releasing the same game with a few extras like Copcom likes to do it. Seriously, only RE5 gold is Move compatible? 3 versions of Street Fighter 4? wthDarsander

Sure it's more expensive if you want everything, but usually there's always stuff you don't really care about. I can see the devs / publisher trying to cash in on DLC, especially to compensate used game sales. IMO the price of new games should be lowered and they should focus more on those micro transactions. I'm actually fine with stuff like online passes. The best added content are still mods, to bad the consoles do not support something like that :S

Call of Duty

[QUOTE="Darsander"][QUOTE="ArchoNils2"]DLC usually has their own budget and wouldn't be part of the final game if it wasn't for DLC. Sure you can say "we never know", but I'm pretty sure we would see about the same content in our games even if there isn't DLC, but instead of DLC we would see more expansion packs. Oh and I take DLC any day over re-releasing the same game with a few extras like Copcom likes to do it. Seriously, only RE5 gold is Move compatible? 3 versions of Street Fighter 4? wthArchoNils2

Sure it's more expensive if you want everything, but usually there's always stuff you don't really care about. I can see the devs / publisher trying to cash in on DLC, especially to compensate used game sales. IMO the price of new games should be lowered and they should focus more on those micro transactions. I'm actually fine with stuff like online passes. The best added content are still mods, to bad the consoles do not support something like that :S

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[QUOTE="Darsander"] I would take DLC over re-releases as well. And on paper, I would had also taken DLC over expansions, but look Expansion: a new single player story mode, a bunch of new maps, new characters/armies to play with and old ones get updates and enw weapons. $20-$40 vs $10 for several batches of maps (used to be given away for free in patches as a 'thank you for still playing our game'. $5-15 for new each new character or army. $1-5 for different attires for each character $20-$40 for a new story a new story mode.Darsander

Sure it's more expensive if you want everything, but usually there's always stuff you don't really care about. I can see the devs / publisher trying to cash in on DLC, especially to compensate used game sales. IMO the price of new games should be lowered and they should focus more on those micro transactions. I'm actually fine with stuff like online passes. The best added content are still mods, to bad the consoles do not support something like that :S

So how long to you play those $60 games? 3 months? Seriously? Even if there are games that cost you $20 a month to play properly, it's probably still less expensive than a $60 game (Personally I play them for about a week, not much more). Also this way the devs and publishers get more money and do not lose a lot to retailers.

But that wasn't my point at all: All I'm saying is that I actually like the idea of DLC, especially because you directly support the devs and publishers. I would be perfectly fine with a $40 game with DLC worth $60 where I can chose if I want any or if I want everything. Just check out Disgaea 3, it has tons of DLC, but you decide which characters you actually want. It's up to you wheter you want just one character or if you want all of them for $50. Also I wasn't talking about MP at all.

Dunno what this had to do with my country or my political standpoint

Dunno what this had to do with my country or my political standpointArchoNils2

Three things:

Constant game installs, updates, and glitches.

Pre-orders and DLC that gives players either an unfair advantage or are essential to a games story. I also hate the fact it splits players up in online games with smaller user bases.

Hermits have came out of their basements. This is the first gen where they realize that consoles are a threat to them. Developers do not see them as a big source of income, the pirating has caught up with them, and the same develpoers who used to rely on them have abandoned them over night. So game forums where the Nintendo/Sega and Microsoft/Sony battles are not fun anymore. Instead we get a few minutes to haggle each other before we have to start hearing the complaining while trying to explain why we either do not care or admitting that they are right with the hopes the topic can live through the interuption.

there are so many thing that ruined gaming this generation i dont even know where to begin

the way they dumb down games really shocked me.

capcom type of DLC (disk-locked-content)and re-releases

The whole "trying to appeal to a larger audience". They try to act like last gen never existed and all of those franchised would never sell now like all of the gamers who were alive "way back then" are all dead or something. I know a lot of gamers are young these days but most of them are COD buddies and would never look at half of these games anyway. Meanwhile you have some that would and would even go back and get the previous titles.

Publishers dumbing down everything to appealto casuals.

The fall of Rare.

DLC. The whole online updating and downloading thing only encouraged developers to be lazy and release a broken game because they could just patch it a little later.

The sheer amount of casualization and the constant attempts to try to appeal to the "broader masses". On top of that I feel most games don't have staying power like last gen.

I don't know, this generation has been bloody fantastic, honestly.

Any complaint I can think of is mitigated by some other positive factor; sure, there's been some DLC abuse, but there's also been some really good post-release content (like with New Vegas, for example) that actually held good value for me.

And yes, many companies have been altering there franchise formulas to appeal to new audiences, and several series have suffered for it, but there are plenty of games that are pushing new limits within their genres, both in and out of the mainstream.

Spinter Cell was murdered, but Fallout was revived, and ****ing wonderfully.

Crytek pissed themselves and collapsed, but Irrational provided us with one of the greatest games of all time.

Rockstar went even further downhill, but smaller devs gave us Crackdown and Just Cause 2.

BioWare ****ed everyone sideways with the terrible Dragon Age series, but also put out Mass Effect, which is pretty good.

Capcom stepped away from horror altogether, but Frictional Games gave us a terrifying genre masterpiece.

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So yeah, there's a good at least for every bad, and plenty more besides.

DLC, no, not proper DLC like Undead Nightmare in fact, i think that is pretty cool when done right, i'm talking about Capcom (and many others) twisted idea of DLC (aka as Disk Loked Content).

For me so far its the importance the big three have put on motion controls, not that I think the technology is worthless, but its been used as cash in only. Even the Wii's highest rated games only use light implimentation with the motion controls... That and the unfinished game. Its irritating buying an unfinished game and waiting for a patch... LOOKING AT YOU FALLOUT NEW VEGAS!!!!!!!!!!!!

The internet. The severe overflow of nonsense that infests gaming forums just boggles my mind...I don't understand how some people get up in the morning and make it to a computer without decapitating themselves by accident.

The internet. The severe overflow of nonsense that infests gaming forums just boggles my mind...I don't understand how some people get up in the morning and make it to a computer without decapitating themselves by accident.

heretrix

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The internet. The severe overflow of nonsense that infests gaming forums just boggles my mind...I don't understand how some people get up in the morning and make it to a computer without decapitating themselves by accident.

TheEroica

I don't feel that way about everybody though..As annoying as System Wars can be it's the least offensive of the places I've seen.

The thing I'm annoyed by most this generation are rabid fanboys who defend a system like it's a sports team or something. I don't remember Sega and Nintendo fans going at it like this back in the 16-bit era. We just enjoyed all the great games we were able to play. As for a tangible aspect, it's gotta be locked material on game disks. I don't mind paying for DLC as long as I actually have to download something substantial, not a 250kb unlock key.

[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

The internet. The severe overflow of nonsense that infests gaming forums just boggles my mind...I don't understand how some people get up in the morning and make it to a computer without decapitating themselves by accident.

heretrix

I don't feel that way about everybody though..As annoying as System Wars can be it's the least offensive of the places I've seen.

The worst part about this gen is all of the complainers, especially the ones who say "games were dumbed down". Newsflash, SP has never taken intelligence especially in the past and MP will only take as much intelligence as the people playing, whether you're playing ARMA or MW2.

The worst part about this gen is all of the complainers, especially the ones who say "games were dumbed down". Newsflash, SP has never taken intelligence especially in the past and MP will only take as much intelligence as the people playing, whether you're playing ARMA or MW2.

ROFLCOPTER603

Well I personally love this gen. The only thing that sucks is the lack of JRPG's on consoles. It's sad to see them diminish, but at least that means my PSP isn't a dust collector lol.

DLC that is already on the disc or that has been obviously taken out of the main game (I'm looking at you Assassin's Creed 2). Nothing is more aggravating than paying $15 for DLC than seeing a 100kb "unlock". That's DLC that was already on the disc.

The worst thing about this gen for me was having my house broken into and my BC 80 gig PS3, 10 PS3 games, 2 DS lites, and 6 DS games stolen.

The worst thing about this gen for me was having my house broken into and my BC 80 gig PS3, 10 PS3 games, 2 DS lites, and 6 DS games stolen.

AmazonTreeBoa

DLC as in map packs. Overall the crap nature of console mp games.

great games that still include screen tearing

DLC. the only ones who have done it right are Rockstar and Bethesda (from Fallout 3 onward).

XP and level-up mechanics in every single multiplayer game after COD4.

Abundance of Shooters

The focus on cinematic presentation over gameplay. It's just rediculous how a game with bad and sometimes broken gameplay, but super high production values automaticallyget 90+ critics averages and praise from the general public. We are playing GAMES for crying out loud! Gameplay needs to be put back into the forefront