What is up with this Catherine game?

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#51 Jynxzor
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Just because I am critical of a game that isn't a shooter doesn't mean all I play is shooters...pretty stupid argument

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On a slightly related note: What else do you play? Could it be your just not a fan of puzzle games or anime in general? If thats the case why creat a thread just to state your personal preferences and hate on a game genre/style you don't care for? I mean should I make a thread titled: "Yo~ Whats the deal with ______" I think the _____ Gameplay and ______ Style suck. Going to be a terrible game. Answer: No I shouldn't because thats not a real discussion.
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#52 cain006
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[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

Just because I am critical of a game that isn't a shooter doesn't mean all I play is shooters...pretty stupid argument

Bigboi500

The thing is, SW sees SO MUCH bro-mentality shooter-love here and SO MUCH anime/anything different-is-so-lol bee ess that it seems like 99.9% of gamers today are of a hive-mentality that shuns ANYTHING that isn't a freaking shooter. Your op did nothing to differentiate yourself from that crowd.

Some of us are dying for something fresh and different, so it's no wonder ten other posters are of a similar mindset to what appeared to be nothing more than a troll thread that offered little real discussion.

...What? Pretty sure the most popular genre here is rpg. It could be tied with fps though.

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#53 Bigboi500
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What? Pretty sure the most popular genre here is rpg. It could be tied with fps though.

cain006

If this was last gen I'd agree, unfortunately a large majority of threads I read here now are ones like: "Are you buying MW35/BO413?" and "What's your top ten most anticipated FPSs?" or "Let's discuss how Activision is going to incorporate premium online services for the next cee oh dee blah blah". :)

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#54 Crazyguy105
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It's a very stylized puzzle game with a story. I'll gladly pay for it because it's ORIGINAL.

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#55 cain006
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[QUOTE="cain006"]

What? Pretty sure the most popular genre here is rpg. It could be tied with fps though.

Bigboi500

If this was last gen I'd agree, unfortunately a large majority of threads I read here now are ones like: "Are you buying MW35/BO413?" and "What's your top ten most anticipated FPSs?" or "Let's discuss how Activision is going to incorporate premium online services for the next cee oh dee blah blah". :)

Well we can thank that sniper guy for all of those anticipated fps threads...

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#56 SuperFlakeman
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I don't get it, is the whole game based around the same puzzle mechanic?

It's not like Layton or something where you have a variety of stuff you do?

Cus that's the deal breaker for me, the climbing boxes gameplay didn't interest me as an entire game.

Other than that, I've never played Atlus games they seem abit.. emo for my taste but this game grabbed my attention, too bad.

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#57 turtlethetaffer
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That's fine of you don't want it TC. I am very interested in it.

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#58 PSdual_wielder
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I wish more people could approach new things with an open mind and not expect every game has to have guns and you look through the eyes of a souless voiceless moving husk.

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#59 silversix_
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The only reason this game is even talked about is boobs/light hentai'ish stuff in it. Pathetic. Those who enjoy climbing boxes for 10hours+ guess you'll enjoy that :lol:
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#60 silversix_
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I wish more people could approach new things with an open mind and not expect every game has to have guns and you look through the eyes of a souless voiceless moving husk.

PSdual_wielder

I may agree about the story but gameplay isn't original but stupid and more repepitive it'll be hard to find.

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#61 Zurrur
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ye this game looks terrible, why would i play game which isn't a shooter? o.O

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#62 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="15strong"]

You're the 5th person to say this and tt wasn't funny or clever the first time someone said it. Just to let you know, it is possible for someone to like a game like Halo and like a game like this. Shocking, I know.

15strong

Well I'm glad you're here to keep count on what everyone is saying in the thread. I'll sure sleep better tonight knowing it. ;)

I read the entire thread. Shocking, I know. Can you imagine someone doing such a thing on a forum?

Well thanks for singling me out and only criticizing my post for doing that. I must be special!

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#63 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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I found the demo boring. I think there are far superior puzzle/story-driven games.
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#64 mccoyca112
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Sorry to hear you, and some others don't like it. If you aren't big on anime, puzzle games/ or story focused games, then that should have been your clue right from the get go. I'm digging it, as an original title, that I can kick back and play. And I am one of the people who actually like the gameplay parts. I can see myself experimenting different routes for a couple playthroughs, as the puzzles are supposedly going to get much harder.

Because, and I hate to jump on the bandwagon, if I play one more shooter before long, my head is going to roll, extensively.

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#65 Randoggy
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Paid my pre-order of the game in full today. Can't wait.
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#66 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator  Online
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The game got a 9 at IGN.

15strong

To be fair, that's IGN. :P

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#67 dommeus
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It isn't the puzzle gameplay that's putting me off. It is the difficulty.

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#68 yokofox33
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Why you be hatin'? It's a puzzle game that's obviously more story-driven than anything. Nothing wrong with that.

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#69 Jynxzor
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It isn't the puzzle gameplay that's putting me off. It is the difficulty.

dommeus
Blast those games that you die a few times before finding the solution.
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#70 RavenLoud
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The only reason this game is even talked about is boobs/light hentai'ish stuff in it. Pathetic. Those who enjoy climbing boxes for 10hours+ guess you'll enjoy that :lol:silversix_
Is this serious? You can say "The only reason this game is even talked about is ____overgeneralized assumption____. Pathetic. Those who enjoy ____overgeneralized assumption____ for 10+hours guess you'll enjoy that :lol: I'm so cool" for pretty much every hobby. Doing so doesn't make you any less ignorant, closed minded and shortsighted than whoever you're condescending on.
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#71 Snugenz
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Supposedly there are sexy aspects. If this is true I'll give it a shot.UCF_Knight

There are much cheaper ways to enjoy "sexy aspects" than purchasing a video game :P

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#72 Jynxzor
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The only reason this game is even talked about is boobs/light hentai'ish stuff in it. Pathetic. Those who enjoy climbing boxes for 10hours+ guess you'll enjoy that :lol:silversix_

Yeah it's not like Atlus doesn't have a massive pedegree in making games that are flat out amazing no matter how "out there" they sound.

Your right it has nothing to do with how amazing Atlus is.

It's all about the sex appeal.

But yeah, it's all about the sex.

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#73 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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before i played the demo this game was a 3/10 in my book, after the demo it's 4.5/ 10

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#74 Some-Mist
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I'm surprised there were so many people pumped for this game as a jrpg, but are now turned off because it's a puzzler. The reason being that every discussion on here people have explained that it's a puzzle platformer... So if you learned about the game on here you should already know this.

Catherine threads leading up to this one:
"Eww another jrpg?"
"No, it's a puzzle platformer."

"Is this a jrpg?"
"No, it's a puzzle platformer"

"Looks like it could be an interesting jrpg!"
"It's a puzzle platformer..."

"Wait, this is a puzzle game? I thought it was a jrpg.... Pass....."
".........."

It shouldn't come as a surprise that a lot of people aren't going to like this game. Who cares? I'm pumped for it and have been since I've played the japanese demo. I personally think it's a humorous take on the "falling block puzzle genre" a la tetris.. Except you're actually the one falling if you mess up.

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#76 Filthybastrd
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It looks intriguing to me.

I suppose it's about as interactive as ME or LA Noire.

Edit: Storytelling and plot is a huge SW topic, Catherine looks to deliver something a little more original than usual so we should appreciate that.

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#77 dommeus
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[QUOTE="dommeus"]

It isn't the puzzle gameplay that's putting me off. It is the difficulty.

Jynxzor

Blast those games that you die a few times before finding the solution.

No need to be so f***ing patronising pal.

The IGN review specifically called the difficulty out as something that will put people off, and I play single player games to experience a narrative - ideally with little to no breaks in the narrative flow. If I got stuck on a puzzle in a game with a strong narrative I would be f***ing furious, since I would likely never find out first hand how the narrative played out.

To me it is like watching a DVD and being forced to rewind chapters and watch them over and over.

Everyone on here is so f***ing hostile. I wasn't even having a go, I just think it is a shame the game doesn't include difficulty levels so everyone can enjoy it.

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#79 Filthybastrd
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[QUOTE="Jynxzor"][QUOTE="dommeus"]

It isn't the puzzle gameplay that's putting me off. It is the difficulty.

dommeus

Blast those games that you die a few times before finding the solution.

No need to be so f***ing patronising pal.

The IGN review specifically called the difficulty out as something that will put people off, and I play single player games to experience a narrative - ideally with little to no breaks in the narrative flow. If I got stuck on a puzzle in a game with a strong narrative I would be f***ing furious, since I would likely never find out first hand how the narrative played out.

To me it is like watching a DVD and being forced to rewind chapters and watch them over and over.

Everyone on here is so f***ing hostile. I wasn't even having a go, I just think it is a shame the game doesn't include difficulty levels so everyone can enjoy it.

Honestly, you can't really be all that surprised mate. It's been obvious from day 1 that the game will be niche.

Sometimes, a difficulty slider simply breaks a game, look at Demon's Souls. That one would have been downright bad if you could set it to easy and have your way with everything.

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#80 Lucianu
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No need to be so f***ing patronising pal.

The IGN review specifically called the difficulty out as something that will put people off, and I play single player games to experience a narrative - ideally with little to no breaks in the narrative flow. If I got stuck on a puzzle in a game with a strong narrative I would be f***ing furious, since I would likely never find out first hand how the narrative played out.

To me it is like watching a DVD and being forced to rewind chapters and watch them over and over.

Everyone on here is so f***ing hostile. I wasn't even having a go, I just think it is a shame the game doesn't include difficulty levels so everyone can enjoy it.

dommeus

Your first mistake is playing games for their narrative without any breaks in the flow. It's a *** game, if you want a continuous flow, watch a movie.

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#81 Some-Mist
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I wasn't even having a go, I just think it is a shame the game doesn't include difficulty levels so everyone can enjoy it.

dommeus

have you played the demo, or looked up information regarding the game outside of the IGN review points?
The only reason I ask is because there are difficulty levels...

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#82 dommeus
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[QUOTE="dommeus"]

No need to be so f***ing patronising pal.

The IGN review specifically called the difficulty out as something that will put people off, and I play single player games to experience a narrative - ideally with little to no breaks in the narrative flow. If I got stuck on a puzzle in a game with a strong narrative I would be f***ing furious, since I would likely never find out first hand how the narrative played out.

To me it is like watching a DVD and being forced to rewind chapters and watch them over and over.

Everyone on here is so f***ing hostile. I wasn't even having a go, I just think it is a shame the game doesn't include difficulty levels so everyone can enjoy it.

Lucianu

Your first mistake is playing games for their narrative without any breaks in the flow. It's a *** game, if you want a continuous flow, watch a movie.

Can't I play games for whatever reason I want? At least if a game gives me the ability to change the difficulty then I can make that decision myself? If I enjoy the experience and want the challenge, then I can play it at a higher difficulty. If someone wants the challenge from the get -go, then they can decide themselves and set it accordingly.
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#83 dommeus
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[QUOTE="dommeus"]

I wasn't even having a go, I just think it is a shame the game doesn't include difficulty levels so everyone can enjoy it.

Some-Mist

have you played the demo, or looked up information regarding the game outside of the IGN review points?
The only reason I ask is because there are difficulty levels...

Haha...no way really? Is the demo on the EU PSN or XBL Marketplace? I did have a look on the marketplace a couple of days ago and the most recent demo was Homefront...lol

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The only thing worst than someone who doesn't like a game because it isn't a cookie-cutter release, are people who think a game being original automatically makes it good...

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#85 Some-Mist
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Haha...no way really? Is the demo on the EU PSN or XBL Marketplace? I did have a look on the marketplace a couple of days ago and the most recent demo was Homefront...lol

dommeus

just checked my EU PSN account and it's not. It is on the US PSN tho so just use a US account if you're truly interested in it (didn't seem like you were from the start tho).

I just find it funny that the point you keep complaining about is that there is no difficulty options - when there is. Whether you find easy mode "hard" is another story, but it's a puzzle game. I also take it you don't play many of those since most puzzle games tend to be a bit more difficult/require much thought?

The only thing worst than someone who doesn't like a game because it isn't a cookie-cutter release, are people who think a game being original automatically makes it good...

xYamatox

the only thing worse than an original game that sucks, is a rehash that sucks. If it's bad, at least it's a fresh experience :P

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#86 lordreaven
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I'll be honest, I think it looks stupid, but I don't like anime, and most japanese games are............for a better word "Weird" (Not all are weird). But TC didn't need to makea thread about it.

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#87 LovePotionNo9
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Suddenly, I'm interested in the game. Hopefully it's not reverse psychology.

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#88 dommeus
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[QUOTE="dommeus"]Haha...no way really? Is the demo on the EU PSN or XBL Marketplace? I did have a look on the marketplace a couple of days ago and the most recent demo was Homefront...lol

Some-Mist

just checked my EU PSN account and it's not. It is on the US PSN tho so just use a US account if you're truly interested in it (didn't seem like you were from the start tho).

I just find it funny that the point you keep complaining about is that there is no difficulty options - when there is. Whether you find easy mode "hard" is another story, but it's a puzzle game. I also take it you don't play many of those since most puzzle games tend to be a bit more difficult/require much thought?

The only thing worst than someone who doesn't like a game because it isn't a cookie-cutter release, are people who think a game being original automatically makes it good...

xYamatox

the only thing worse than an original game that sucks, is a rehash that sucks. If it's bad, at least it's a fresh experience :P

I guess I must've come to that conclusion from what I had already read online. Strange that IGN mention the difficulty but not the fact that it is scalable. My bad for not realising or finding out myself. I was interested in the game when it was first announced. It's just that I shy away from overly difficult games, and I think one that included timed puzzles would just do my nut in.
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#89 Dogswithguns
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Played the demo, and I liked it, different. it's a puzzle game I like that. ..looking forward to buy the fullgame yo.
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#91 Some-Mist
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I guess I must've come to that conclusion from what I had already read online. Strange that IGN mention the difficulty but not the fact that it is scalable. My bad for not realising or finding out myself. I was interested in the game when it was first announced. It's just that I shy away from overly difficult games, and I think one that included timed puzzles would just do my nut in. dommeus
to be fair, easy mode is still a bit difficult, but moreso in the sense that it's a puzzle game, so you will more-than-likely be sitting for awhile scratching your head at trying to figure out how to solve a puzzle.

what you learn from the demo is that, with easy mode (the only selectable difficulty mode in the demo), you can press select to reset a move you just made - as opposed to the other difficulties where each move is set in stone whether it screws your or not.

I've only played the demo, and the demo is somewhat easy. That's still no indication of how hard the game will be.

It's for people who can't get a girlfriend and have to resort to interactive porno.

CBR600-RR

that's what pornos are for. This is for people whom don't feel confined to the social standards set by western videogames. i.e. those who don't have limited tastes and aren't close-minded.

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#92 Console_Gamer93
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I liked Heavy Rain but this is just too 'different'.

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#93 linkin_guy109
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It's like the worst demo I ever "watched"...seriously climbing boxes and watching crappy anime? This game is going to be horrible.

chikenfriedrice
there are many games like that, people will say that they dont get shadow of the collosus and go on to say that it sucks, doesnt take away from the fact that many think its an incredible game, there are those who who say that mgs4 (hurr durr movie game comments) isnt anything special because they dont get it, that doesnt take away from the fact that many think that its an amazing experience, my point from this is that with a lot of games some people will get the game and some people wont get it, its pretty obvious that you dont get what catherine is going for, nothing wrong with that though, many will still get it :) and im sure that many people will enjoy it!
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#94 Jynxzor
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If I got stuck on a puzzle in a game with a strong narrative I would be f***ing furious, since I would likely never find out first hand how the narrative played out.dommeus
Great thats motivation to get better. A good game should motivate you to surmount the challenges it faces you with. Not hold your hand down the lolypop lane and not even challenge you. That defeats the purpose of being a game.
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#95 Kan0nF0dder
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[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

It's like the worst demo I ever "watched"...seriously climbing boxes and watching crappy anime? This game is going to be horrible.

svetzenlether

Yeah what's up with this crap??? It doesn't have guns, zombies OR killstreaks in it!! EPIVC FAIOL!!!11!!!11 :roll:

Lol are people seriously going to play the 'high-brow' card in this thread over a game that's one step away from being hentai... *scrolls down* yup, lot's of people, seriously hilarious.
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#96 110million
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It's for people who can't get a girlfriend and have to resort to interactive porno.

CBR600-RR

There are people who are too embarassed to play it too, and will miss out. :)

There are a million hentai games and porn websites, there are much better sources for people like that. :roll:

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#98 b0g_w0g
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hells yeah dem covers look sweet. which one to pick. its like in the ol west last week when i happened across
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#99 110million
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It's still for weird minded individuals. Wow, GS sure does have a lot of freaks.

CBR600-RR

It sure it great that you want to admit your intolerant to certain ideas. :roll:

Have you even played the demo or anything? Otherwise, do you base all your judgement off of a bit of footage and what people are saying in threads?

The game has themes that appear in many other games, what makes this one so weird? :?

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#100 fueled-system
Member since 2008 • 6529 Posts

If you dont like running away from bosses and pixelated women it wont be for you, ehh some people like that stuff, me personally I don't but thats me