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#51 blackace
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:P

 

So, what's wrong with it? ;)

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#52 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]The DS didn't start selling well until Late 2006 when the DSLite came out and other titles. I remember being here on Gamespot in 2005 and the PSP was beating the DS at the start of its life until the DS got actual games that are interesting mainly Mario Kart DS.

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Uh,no. The ds sales took off june 2006. I'll find the gaf graph comparing the two.

 

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Oh it was outselling DS before the 21st month. I still thought the 3DS was outselling the 3DS because I remember seeing that it was outselling before the 21st month.

Nintendo was smart to release that press release about 3ds outpacing ds during the first week of June because I think they'll never be able to make that claim again. There's no braintraining phenom on 3ds to improve sales by that much. That crowd has moved one just like the wii crowd did.
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#53 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]Uh,no. The ds sales took off june 2006. I'll find the gaf graph comparing the two.

 

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Oh it was outselling DS before the 21st month. I still thought the 3DS was outselling the 3DS because I remember seeing that it was outselling before the 21st month.

Nintendo was smart to release that press release about 3ds outpacing ds during the first week of June because I think they'll never be able to make that claim again. There's no braintraining phenom on 3ds to improve sales by that much. That crowd has moved one just like the wii crowd did.

yeah if you ignore the fact that pokemon xy hasn't dropped yet
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#54 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]Those smartphones and tablets aren't stopping the 3ds from selling like gangbustersShinobishyguy

3DS is selling significantly less than ds did in the same time frame and ps vita is selling even worse than its precursor. The handheld market has shrunk, but there's still enough kids out there, who parents wont spend the $$$ on a tablet or smartphone. For them, 3ds is a cheaper baby sitting alternative.

this "cheap babysitting alternative" currently has japan in a vice grip and it outselling every other console over here (and this is before pokemon mind you )

Handheldville is gravitating to the only handheld getting support? You dont say...
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#55 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]Oh it was outselling DS before the 21st month. I still thought the 3DS was outselling the 3DS because I remember seeing that it was outselling before the 21st month.Shinobishyguy
Nintendo was smart to release that press release about 3ds outpacing ds during the first week of June because I think they'll never be able to make that claim again. There's no braintraining phenom on 3ds to improve sales by that much. That crowd has moved one just like the wii crowd did.

yeah if you ignore the fact that pokemon xy hasn't dropped yet

That appeals to the existing base, not a new one that does not already own a 3ds.
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#56 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] 3DS is selling significantly less than ds did in the same time frame and ps vita is selling even worse than its precursor. The handheld market has shrunk, but there's still enough kids out there, who parents wont spend the $$$ on a tablet or smartphone. For them, 3ds is a cheaper baby sitting alternative.MFDOOM1983
this "cheap babysitting alternative" currently has japan in a vice grip and it outselling every other console over here (and this is before pokemon mind you )

Handheldville is gravitating to the only handheld getting support? You dont say...

my point is if smartphones really are directly competing with it we wouldn't be seeing the 3ds sell nearly as much as we are now. It's effectively got it's own market down pact
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#57 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]Nintendo was smart to release that press release about 3ds outpacing ds during the first week of June because I think they'll never be able to make that claim again. There's no braintraining phenom on 3ds to improve sales by that much. That crowd has moved one just like the wii crowd did. MFDOOM1983
yeah if you ignore the fact that pokemon xy hasn't dropped yet

That appeals to the existing base, not a new one that does not already own a 3ds.

so your saying pokemon (the biggest handheld series) isn't a system seller :|
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#58 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]this "cheap babysitting alternative" currently has japan in a vice grip and it outselling every other console over here (and this is before pokemon mind you )Shinobishyguy
Handheldville is gravitating to the only handheld getting support? You dont say...

my point is if smartphones really are directly competing with it we wouldn't be seeing the 3ds sell nearly as much as we are now. It's effectively got it's own market down pact

As evident by its lower sales in markets outside of japan.
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#59 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]yeah if you ignore the fact that pokemon xy hasn't dropped yetShinobishyguy
That appeals to the existing base, not a new one that does not already own a 3ds.

so your saying pokemon (the biggest handheld series) isn't a system seller :|

I'm saying it appeals to the same market that buys other Nintendo game, not the market that bought the og ds for brain traing and other games like it. That crowd has now moved onto mobile and social games.
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#60 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]That appeals to the existing base, not a new one that does not already own a 3ds. MFDOOM1983
so your saying pokemon (the biggest handheld series) isn't a system seller :|

I'm saying it appeals to the same market that buys other Nintendo game,

dont kid yourself, there are people who don't even like handheld games all that much but will still get a 3ds for pokemon. The brand has that much power

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#61 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]so your saying pokemon (the biggest handheld series) isn't a system seller :|Shinobishyguy
I'm saying it appeals to the same market that buys other Nintendo game, not the market that bought the og ds for brain traing and other games like it. That crowd has now moved onto mobile and social games.

dont kid yourself, there are people who don't even like handheld games all that much but will still get a 3ds for pokemon. The brand has that much power

I'm sure there are. But are we talking an additional 200-300k hardware units per month, every single month for multiple years? We'll find out soon enough.
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#62 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]I'm saying it appeals to the same market that buys other Nintendo game, not the market that bought the og ds for brain traing and other games like it. That crowd has now moved onto mobile and social games. MFDOOM1983
dont kid yourself, there are people who don't even like handheld games all that much but will still get a 3ds for pokemon. The brand has that much power

I'm sure there are. But are we talking an additional 200-300k hardware units per month, every single month for multiple years? We'll find out soon enough.

could very well be the case. We've already seen animal crossing and luigis mansion have strong legs
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#63 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]dont kid yourself, there are people who don't even like handheld games all that much but will still get a 3ds for pokemon. The brand has that much powerShinobishyguy
I'm sure there are. But are we talking an additional 200-300k hardware units per month, every single month for multiple years? We'll find out soon enough.

could very well be the case. We've already seen animal crossing and luigis mansion have strong legs

Software sales, I'm talking hardware sales.
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#64 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]I'm sure there are. But are we talking an additional 200-300k hardware units per month, every single month for multiple years? We'll find out soon enough. MFDOOM1983
could very well be the case. We've already seen animal crossing and luigis mansion have strong legs

Software sales, I'm talking hardware sales.

software drives hardware. We've seen Nintendo's consistent support of the handheld spur it even without a pop culture phenomenon like brain age.
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"] Because the sixth gen wasn't nearly as long as seventh gen and the Wii was MUCH cheaper than the 360 and PS3, and motion controls were a big deal (or at least a bigger deal than the tablet controller gimmick). princeofshapeir

Which shows that the Wii U's problem has more to do with pricing or choice of controller than the Wii U's weaker hardware. The only real problem the weaker hardware could bring is weaker third party support, but even then Nintendo has always had bad luck with third parties, even when their consoles were graphically on par with its competition, or even when Nintendo had a successful console (the Wii), so I believe that Nintendo's third party problems are more of a result of Nintendo's history and the Wii U's terrible sales than weaker hardware.

If anything I'd sat its the fact that the Wii U's hardware is different that makes it difficult for companies to utilize it or want to work with it moreso than the fact that it is weaker. This could explain the Wii's weak third party support as well despite being successful.

The weaker hardware is a big factor because people are sick of current-gen and want next-gen. They don't want a console that offers the same technical capabilities that we've been experiencing for eight years.

 

I agree the pricing is the biggest detriment, as pitting a deluxe edition $350 console against a $399 Playstation 4 is going to be suicidal this holiday season.

To specify a bit more, I don't think the weaker hardware is a non-issue for the reason you mentioned, I just don't think it's as big as the Wii U's other problems.

And I do hope Nintendo does have a price drop ready sometime before the holidays if they want to compete at all and interest more people, because many people aren't going to want the Wii U in its curent state when the PS4 is only 50$ more expensive.

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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]could very well be the case. We've already seen animal crossing and luigis mansion have strong legsShinobishyguy
Software sales, I'm talking hardware sales.

software drives hardware. We've seen Nintendo's consistent support of the handheld spur it even without a pop culture phenomenon like brain age.

And that support has the 3ds posting numbers in the 300k range. The brain training phenom had ds sales in the 500-600k range regularly.
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#67 Avatar_Taxidous
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lol I like the GIF. That really needed to be asked to the Nintendo haters out there. Wii U is a cool system in my opinion. Good control options, good software, and a pretty good community.

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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] Software sales, I'm talking hardware sales. MFDOOM1983
software drives hardware. We've seen Nintendo's consistent support of the handheld spur it even without a pop culture phenomenon like brain age.

And that support has the 3ds posting numbers in the 300k range. The brain training phenom had ds sales in the 500-600k range regularly.

the fact that its selling that much without a non gaming hit is impressive in of itself. For the most part nintendo's been focusing on core games and its proven to be more than sustainable even without the soccer moms

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#69 david61983
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It's the price that's the problem, not so much the name or it being underpowered. I can get a hamburger at McDonald's or I can get one at Morton's. Obviously the one at McDonald's isn't nearly as good but people still buy lots of it because it is much cheaper than the one at Morton's. People will buy a Wii U but only if it's no more than half the price of the PS4. The Wii U might not even be as powerful as a PS3, but Nintendo wants to price it close to the PS4. It's this basic concept that Nintendo can't seem to grasp.
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#70 Chris_Williams
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i have a wii-u, I found one in the dumpster. 

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#71 Optical_Order
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i have a wii-u, I found one in the dumpster. 

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how rude of someone to throw such trash into your home. 

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#73 silversix_
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This is what's very wrong with the system and only fanboys of that same system could even possibly ignore.

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#74 cainetao11
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Just traded mine in and paid off gta5 le, splinter cell, and arkham origins. It was purchased on a whim and for Zelda games. Maybe buy it used when Zelda u comes out.
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#75 meetroid8
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Lacking marketing, lacking games, and lacking hardware.
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#76 AtariKidX
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lol Wiiu

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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

i have a wii-u, I found one in the dumpster. 

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how rude of someone to throw such trash into your home. 

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Well played!

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So, what's wrong with it? ;)

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The controller needs to be upgraded

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#79 Supabul
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Kids can't afford it

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#80 bigmoobys
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no good games no pressure sensitive triggers,stupid name to attract casual wii crowd
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#81 sukraj
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I like the wii u

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#82 LegatoSkyheart
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3rd Parties can't be bothered with it.

Gamers can't be bothered with it.

Casuals can't be bothered with it.

No one can bother it.

The system itself? It's fine, it's capable of playing games like Mass Effect 3, Batman Arkham City, and Assassin's Creed 3, heck it's getting Watchdogs.

But why are 3rd Parties not bothered with it? Maybe sales are just too low for them. Maybe they have extreme bias on Nintendo. Maybe they just want more power to please the Graphic loving crowd. Who knows, but they're right about WiiU not selling too well for their tastes, even Ubisoft who is giving WiiU more games isn't pleased.

WiiU is an ok System, it just doesn't have the appeal Nintendo wanted.

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#83 faizan_faizan
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lol Wii U.
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lol Wii U.faizan_faizan
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#85 AtariKidX
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]lol Wii U.NathanDrakeSwag

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3rd Parties can't be bothered with it.

Gamers can't be bothered with it.

Casuals can't be bothered with it.

No one can bother it.

The system itself? It's fine, it's capable of playing games like Mass Effect 3, Batman Arkham City, and Assassin's Creed 3, heck it's getting Watchdogs.

But why are 3rd Parties not bothered with it? Maybe sales are just too low for them. Maybe they have extreme bias on Nintendo. Maybe they just want more power to please the Graphic loving crowd. Who knows, but they're right about WiiU not selling too well for their tastes, even Ubisoft who is giving WiiU more games isn't pleased.

WiiU is an ok System, it just doesn't have the appeal Nintendo wanted.

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Yeah....yeah...WiiU it's capable of playing games like Mass Effect 3, Batman Arkham City, and Assassin's Creed 3 games that i already have play and i can play better on PS3/XBOX360.
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

3rd Parties can't be bothered with it.

Gamers can't be bothered with it.

Casuals can't be bothered with it.

No one can bother it.

The system itself? It's fine, it's capable of playing games like Mass Effect 3, Batman Arkham City, and Assassin's Creed 3, heck it's getting Watchdogs.

But why are 3rd Parties not bothered with it? Maybe sales are just too low for them. Maybe they have extreme bias on Nintendo. Maybe they just want more power to please the Graphic loving crowd. Who knows, but they're right about WiiU not selling too well for their tastes, even Ubisoft who is giving WiiU more games isn't pleased.

WiiU is an ok System, it just doesn't have the appeal Nintendo wanted.

AtariKidX

Yeah....yeah...WiiU it's capable of playing games like Mass Effect 3, Batman Arkham City, and Assassin's Creed 3 games that i already have play and i can play better on PS3/XBOX360.

Wiiu is not even getting Fifa or Madden. That is the definition of a dead system.

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Yeah....yeah...WiiU it's capable of playing games like Mass Effect 3, Batman Arkham City, and Assassin's Creed 3 games that i already have play and i can play better on PS3/XBOX360.AtariKidX

So what about Watchdogs or Assassin's Creed IV? Those are going to be on the PS4 too, is the PS4 now crap because it's sharing games with Systems you already own?

WiiU didn't get Tomb Raider, Bioshock Infinite or Crisis 3 and I remember Some of you claiming ownage for that, so what is it? Is the system terrible because it doesn't get PS3 or Xbox 360 games or that it's Terrible because it's doesn't have exclusives?

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[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]lol Wii U.AtariKidX

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It doesn't have enough games and the price is set at least $50 too high.

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[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]Yeah....yeah...WiiU it's capable of playing games like Mass Effect 3, Batman Arkham City, and Assassin's Creed 3 games that i already have play and i can play better on PS3/XBOX360.LegatoSkyheart

So what about Watchdogs or Assassin's Creed IV? Those are going to be on the PS4 too, is the PS4 now crap because it's sharing games with Systems you already own?

WiiU didn't get Tomb Raider, Bioshock Infinite or Crisis 3 and I remember Some of you claiming ownage for that, so what is it? Is the system terrible because it doesn't get PS3 or Xbox 360 games or that it's Terrible because it's doesn't have exclusives?

Watchdogs or Assassin's Creed IV they will be 10times better on the PS4/XBone.Why to buy those games on the WiiU....lol..??
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#92 LegatoSkyheart
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Watchdogs or Assassin's Creed IV they will be 10times better on the PS4/XBone.Why to buy those games on the WiiU....lol..??AtariKidX

But you can buy them on systems you already own!

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#93 NathanDrakeSwag
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]Yeah....yeah...WiiU it's capable of playing games like Mass Effect 3, Batman Arkham City, and Assassin's Creed 3 games that i already have play and i can play better on PS3/XBOX360.AtariKidX

So what about Watchdogs or Assassin's Creed IV? Those are going to be on the PS4 too, is the PS4 now crap because it's sharing games with Systems you already own?

WiiU didn't get Tomb Raider, Bioshock Infinite or Crisis 3 and I remember Some of you claiming ownage for that, so what is it? Is the system terrible because it doesn't get PS3 or Xbox 360 games or that it's Terrible because it's doesn't have exclusives?

Watchdogs or Assassin's Creed IV they will be 10times better on the PS4/XBone.Why to buy those games on the WiiU....lol..??

The Wiiu version of Watch Dogs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZahmJIhE90

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#95 mojito1988
Member since 2006 • 4962 Posts

No Mario Kart till 2014.

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#96 faizan_faizan
Member since 2009 • 7869 Posts

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"][QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

So what about Watchdogs or Assassin's Creed IV? Those are going to be on the PS4 too, is the PS4 now crap because it's sharing games with Systems you already own?

WiiU didn't get Tomb Raider, Bioshock Infinite or Crisis 3 and I remember Some of you claiming ownage for that, so what is it? Is the system terrible because it doesn't get PS3 or Xbox 360 games or that it's Terrible because it's doesn't have exclusives?

NathanDrakeSwag

Watchdogs or Assassin's Creed IV they will be 10times better on the PS4/XBone.Why to buy those games on the WiiU....lol..??

The Wiiu version of Watch Dogs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZahmJIhE90

:lol:
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#97 AtariKidX
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[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]Watchdogs or Assassin's Creed IV they will be 10times better on the PS4/XBone.Why to buy those games on the WiiU....lol..??LegatoSkyheart

But you can buy them on systems you already own!

But i already can play them on the PS3/XBOX360......no need for a WiiU.

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#98 Avatar_Taxidous
Member since 2006 • 4407 Posts
I wonder if people will be asking what's wrong with PS4 and XBox One when they do mild sales and have a thin launch lineup.
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#99 moistsandwich
Member since 2009 • 25 Posts

[QUOTE="moistsandwich"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] to bad I'm not a sony fanboy, I would sh*t on Sony also they haven't given me a reason too. The Wii-U is just making it to easy though.Chris_Williams

I want "to" congratulate you.

I think you're smart, "too".

If you want "to" reply, you may want to include a clever gif "too". But don't feel like you have "to".

Any of this sinking in, smart guy?

Oh sorry, i do that from time to time and make grammar errors when I type super fast. :). Now what's your excuse for trying to be an a$$hole?

Everyone has pet-peeves.

Mine is stupidity. Also, that was more than a typo. You used every to/too in the wrong way. I wouldn't have bothered otherwise.

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#100 moistsandwich
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I wonder if people will be asking what's wrong with PS4 and XBox One when they do mild sales and have a thin launch lineup.Avatar_Taxidous

I like my Wii U

But c'mon... we all know the PS4 & XB1 will have stronger sales than the Wii U has had thus far. They'll both struggle for a while to get a good library of games though, I'm sure.