What makes Xbone worth $100 more?

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#101 lglz1337
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goddamn lemmings are really awfull at this!

debunk TC someone help

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#102  Edited By the330and419
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The games. Xbone has better games right now. But the ps4 is still a better system. Multiplats on the Xbox are bad once you play them on a ps4.

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#103  Edited By applefan1991  Moderator
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I like mine because the exclusives are fun. Titanfall is a lot of fun so far, Forza is solid and Dead Rising is fun to just get in a party with friends, go into co op and just kill some zombies. Do I like it more than my PS4? No, not yet, but it's a solid console. The OS and Kinect features are great as well

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#104  Edited By FoxbatAlpha
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@Suppaman100: look at the peasant act like he has a place around here. I hear your mom calling you, she finished washing your sheets after you wet the bed (again). I feel sorry for all the work you create for her. Maybe I should comfort her.

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#105 nicecall
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i think its worth 100 more because it does 720p, which is easier on the eyes then 1080p which is too sharp and crisp. I'd pay 100 dollars more for sure for nice blurry resolution. I think the xbox two will be giving a full 480p experience at 60 fps... but at a cost.

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#106  Edited By Suppaman100
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

@Suppaman100: look at the peasant act like he has a place around here. I hear your mom calling you, she finished washing your sheets after you wet the bed (again). I feel sorry for all the work you create for her. Maybe I should comfort her.

Looks like someone's mad.

Truth hurts.

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#107  Edited By clr84651
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@Crypt_mx said:

@clr84651 said:

@Sweenix said:

There's nothing really. You are essentially paying more for less.

This has been the case with every Xbox.

It's all up to opinion guys, you guys see more for less, we see more for more. I don't see why people who never plan on getting an Xbox spend so much time on here saying how the xbox is a waste of money...

I don't see why people who like have an Xbox act like it's so great; as powerful as a PS4, more games, Xlive is way better etc. I guess some things we'll never understand.

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#108  Edited By lglz1337
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@FoxbatAlpha: lol he mad..

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#109  Edited By FoxbatAlpha
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@Suppaman100: your originality is groundbreaking. Butthurt,lmfao, mad is all you know how to post.

No wonder you only have 3 followers. More proof that no one likes you. Man up and accept the truth.

I can make a alt and have 3 followers in 5 posts. You now hold the record for pathetic on SW. Not something to be proud of.

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#110 FoxbatAlpha
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@lglz1337: yeah I don't blame him though. He has a tough life and comes here to think he is somebody. Not so.

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#111  Edited By Messiahbolical-
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@Crypt_mx said:

Have you used the X1 controller or are you just assuming the DS4 is better? After using both for long periods of gaming, I can confidently say the X1 is better. Most of my friends who I've had over tend to agree with me after playing both.

Xbox/MS has better online, if you think something other than that you are fooling yourself. MS has thousands of dedicated servers supporting Xbox's online. Every game gets dedicated servers, meanwhile Sony's biggest first party multi-player game (Killzone) has us using peer to peer connections. How is that superior? Plus the difference in the quality of voice chat from X1 to PS4 is worth mentioning too.

Um all Xbone games running on dedicated servers was debunked ages ago. That quote was a misunderstanding that was taken out of context, but I'm sure Microsoft doesn't mind as long as you fanboys keep spreading the false rumors and giving them credit for something that isn't true. And Killzone(which isn't even close to being Sony's biggest game franchise) does, and always has, ran on dedicated servers even when PSN was free so I don't know WTF you're talking about.

I can't think of an exclusive online Sony game that hasn't run on dedicated servers... Killzone, Uncharted, The Last Of Us, Warhawk, MAG, Resistance... they ALL run/ran on dedicated servers. While on the other hand Halo, which has ALWAYS been Microsoft's biggest #1 game and the game that single handedly made them relevant, has always ran on P2P despite Microsoft always charging for online so you pretty much just shot yourself in the foot there. Talk about a fail...

And the Dual Shock 4 is factually superior to the Xbone controller. It's not even an opinion, it's a fact. Saying that the Xbox One controller is slightly more comfortable than the Dual Shock 4 is an opinion and it pretty much seems to be 50/50 to who prefers the comfort of the DS4/Xbox One controller. But you CANNOT say that the Xbox One is a superior controller to the Dual Shock 4 technology-wise. You can't even begin to make a case for the Xbox One even coming close to the Dual Shock 4.

The Dual Shock 4 does every single thing that the Xbone controller does except for extra vibration in the triggers. Literally that's the ONLY thing that the Xbox One controller has over the Dual Shock 4... extra vibration in the triggers. Things the Dual Shock 4 has over the Xbox One controller(keep in mind that they're the exact same price in stores):

- Touch pad that doubles as a button

- Legitimate 3.5mm headset jack that supports game audio AND voice chat

- Playstation Move style LED built-in with other non-camera functions as well

- Rechargeable battery built-in(costs $25 extra on Xbox, meaning this feature alone already makes the DS4 a better value even if all of the other features didn't exist)

- Speaker directly on the controller

- Share button

- PS3 backwards compatibility when connected wired

- Connects wireless through standard Bluetooth unlike the Xbone controller... aka you can use your DS4 on your PC wirelessly unlike the Xbone controller

- Rubbery grippy texture on the back of the controller... not only comfortable and better for people with sweaty hands, but more importantly can help absorb some of the shocks when the controller is dropped thus potentially keeping the controller in better working shape for longer

I don't know why more people don't criticize Microsoft for putting that stupid asinine proprietary mic port on the Xbone One controller. It's a complete joke and only exists so Microsoft can milk extra money out of headset companies. Microsoft spends a trillion dollars making this new controller and the only new feature they give it other than extra vibration in the triggers(which isn't really a NEW feature but more like an enhanced feature) is the fact that your old headset can't voice chat through it. YAY!

While on the other hand Sony does the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of Microsot and puts this badass full-on headphone/headset jack with game audio making it so you can you use just about any headset or headphones in the world, even MP3 headphones that you already have laying around your house, on the PS4, On top of that, it also means that developers can do something that's NEVER been done before on any console in allowing split-screen players to each have their OWN headsets with their own specific game audio which is an AMAZING new feature. One of the biggest problems with split screen gaming that's always ruined the experience ever since I was a little kid has been how annoying it is hearing both game-audios all clusterfucked together at once, and Sony is the first one to come up with a solution to the problem.

But yeah I really think Microsoft should be getting a lot more crap for changing the mic port to a proprietary technology just so they can milk even more money(that they did nothing to earn) from everyone. Can someone come up with 1 good reason they had to do it? They did it knowing it would be nothing but an inconvenience to their customers. I own a pair of $200 surround sound Tritton Pro+'s and I'd be unbelievably pissed if I bought an Xbone fully expecting to be able to use the headset that I paid all that money for not that long ago, and instead I got the middle finger from Microsoft telling me I can't use my headset just because it isn't making them extra money like the new ones are. That's just pathetic.

A lot of people had perfectly fine working high end gaming headsets that worked fine on their Xbox 360 and bought Xbones expecting them to work on the Xbone because "why not?... there's no reason it shouldn't work" but then once they hooked up their Xbone and went to plug in the headset to the controller they got a rude awakening that their headset that they paid good money for is now a paper weight, and for no reason. lol

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#112 AHUGECAT
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Titanfall

Crackdown 3

Quantum Break

Sunset Overdrive

Halo 5

Gears of War 4

etc. etc.

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#113 jsmoke03
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games i guess cuz the hardware doesnt make it more worth it.

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#114 speedfog
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It has more swag then the ps4

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#115  Edited By NobleCow
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@Dannystaples14 said:

Better controller? Not from where I'm sitting it isn't. It might be improved over PS3, but with how shit that was, anything would be an improvement. The Dual Shock 4 from what I've tried of it, is very comfortable. But the offset sticks on the Xbox controller has always been my favourite. Dual Shock is too light.

Better online? PSN is the worst piece of shit in terms of unreliability ever. Persistent game drop outs. Them still getting hacked like a bunch of amateurs. Which would be fine if it hadn't just happened again last month.

But the only reason Xbox One is more expensive is because of the Kinect. Without the Kinect the consoles WOULD be identically priced. The only thing you need to work out is if you want a Kinect that costs $100 or not. I know I don't personally. It is the only thing right now getting between me and an Xbox One. Most of the games that look even slightly decent to me at the moment are multi-platform, so the lower price is the only real factor right now.

But don't try to justify your not wanting to pay $100 more with bullshit like that because it is pathetic. Just admitting you want the cheaper console and the higher power is a load better than just making shit up.

Gamers and professional critics have all said the DS4 trumps the crappy "mad catz-like" Xbone controller. Deal with it.

PSN IS better than the Xbox LIVE. Xbox LIVE on the Xbone has extremely slow download speeds. I think MS is running it on dial-up servers because they couldn't afford to bleed more money.

Also, enough with the made-up excuses. PSN hasn't been hacked last month and both PSN and Xbone multiplayer games are running on P2P networks. Any "drops" are because of your shitty connection. In fact, the Xbone multiplayer games lag more than PSN games because Microsoft engineers coded a really poor netcode.

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#116  Edited By Messiahbolical-
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@AHUGECAT said:

Titanfall

Crackdown 3

Quantum Break

Sunset Overdrive

Halo 5

Gears of War 4

etc. etc.

That has to be the most mediocre list of "best exclusives the console has/will have to offer" I've seen from any console, any generation...

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#117 AHUGECAT
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@Messiahbolical- said:

@AHUGECAT said:

Titanfall

Crackdown 3

Quantum Break

Sunset Overdrive

Halo 5

Gears of War 4

etc. etc.

That has to be the most mediocre list of "best exclusives the console has/will have to offer" I've seen from any console, any generation...

Then you haven't seen the PS4, which as... The Order and.... Uncharted 4 I guess?

Xbox One has many more unique games coming out. Fable Legends, Forza Horizon 2, Halo 2 anniversary, etc. etc.

But at least PS4 owners get Knack right?

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#118 Messiahbolical-
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@AHUGECAT said:

@Messiahbolical- said:

@AHUGECAT said:

Titanfall

Crackdown 3

Quantum Break

Sunset Overdrive

Halo 5

Gears of War 4

etc. etc.

That has to be the most mediocre list of "best exclusives the console has/will have to offer" I've seen from any console, any generation...

Then you haven't seen the PS4, which as... The Order and.... Uncharted 4 I guess?

Xbox One has many more unique games coming out. Fable Legends, Forza Horizon 2, Halo 2 anniversary, etc. etc.

But at least PS4 owners get Knack right?

We don't know what's going to come to PS4 yet because Sony actually likes to surprise Playstation owners with a variety of interesting new franchises each gen and actually letting their developers take the time to be creative and make sure their games are as polished as possible before releasing them, unlike Microsoft who seems content rehashing the same crap and rushing some mediocre exclusives as fast as possible the first few years of the console then relying on like the 3 most popular franchises every year to last the rest of the gen. I mean Crackdown 3?!?!? Fable Legends?! Are you f***ing kidding me? Did ANYONE want another Crackdown or Fable?

lol You're delusional if you think history isn't going to repeat itself and Sony isn't going to blow away Microsoft when it comes to the amount of exclusives in the long run like they have every gen. Xbox fanboys did the same thing last gen when Microsoft was pushing out a ton of AAe games left and right at the beginning of the gen but barely anything amazing, then all of a sudden once Sony's developers were finally done making their games they were putting out AAAe after AAAe of a variety of different genres and new IPs while Xbox 360 AAAe's became practically mythical outside of Halo, Gears, and Forza. Same thing's going to happen this gen. Enjoy your plethora of mediocre exclusives while they last.

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#119 lglz1337
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goddamn still nobody with a good counter attack TC wins

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#120 The_Last_Ride
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

@LanceSSJ said:

Jesus christ these threads need to end. The exclusives are destroying killzone and knack. Dead rising is very fun. Ryse is beautiful, forza is forza(still one of the best racers) Killer instinct is fantastic.

You are trying to talk about quality and list Ryse? LMAO. Dead Rising 3 and KI are mediocre games that only get mentioned for the sake of being exclusive. Forza 5 was ruined by microtransactions.

People tend to forget Resogun and Contrast which are unique games on PS4

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@Messiahbolical-: Yeah just because YOU say something is a fact doesn't make it so. It is an opinion, it has always been an opinion and always will be. The same way I will always prefer the Xbox controller, THAT is the only bit that is fact.

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#122  Edited By iloveatlus
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

The One is a technological beast. Look how bare the PS4 mobo is compared to it. There is a lot of tech that will be unlocked and improved as time goes by.

Some of the points Swag said are valid now but won't be for long.

There is growing pains right now and the sky is the limit.

You have to ask yourself, how much will the PS4 grow?

Right now the games are the strong point on The One and they will continue to dominate at a increasing rate.

Then I suggest lemmings start buying those games instead of coming on internet forum bragging about them, because base on January NPD, lemmings didn't buy anything.

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@iloveatlus: you are correct. Kind like a roll reversal this gen compared to the last.

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@NathanDrakeSwag: Well, in your opinion SONY has better games. If you enjoy Sony's exclusives more than Microsofts then enjoy that console and use that extra $100 towards some games.

But the PS4 isn't more powerful. Xbox one hardware is a lot more complex than what people know. And the technology behind Kinect and Xbox one hardware makes it a much more sophisticated console. Its more than just a gaming console, its a new experience that makes $100 extra price tag justifiable.

PS4 is just an updated PS3... so I think your quesiton should be "Why is PS4 so cheap".

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@clone01 said:

@bforrester420 said:

@MonsieurX said:

@bforrester420: Forza

Even the only AAe on ps4 is an indie

Cue the over-the-top-eye-roll sequence. I don't give a shit whose forums we're on, I don't play this "only Gamespot scores count" nonsense like you nerds. You can call it AAAE based on your poorly-conceived rules, but in the real world it's just a better-than-average game. Can I race the Nurburgring in Forza 5?

Metascore: 80

That's not AAAE in my book.

Like you nerds...lol, you're here too.

I should have been more clear. I don't mean that everyone on these boards are nerds, just those myopic posters that subscribe to the "Gamespot reviews only" philosophy.

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#126  Edited By no-scope-AK47
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@gamemediator said:

@NathanDrakeSwag: Well, in your opinion SONY has better games. If you enjoy Sony's exclusives more than Microsofts then enjoy that console and use that extra $100 towards some games.

But the PS4 isn't more powerful. Xbox one hardware is a lot more complex than what people know. And the technology behind Kinect and Xbox one hardware makes it a much more sophisticated console. Its more than just a gaming console, its a new experience that makes $100 extra price tag justifiable.

PS4 is just an updated PS3... so I think your quesiton should be "Why is PS4 so cheap".

Alt account of butthurt lem detected lmao

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#127 hoyalawya
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It is $100 more because Microsoft no longer wants to sell the Xbox One below the manufacturing and retailing cost. They could have priced the Xbox One at $400 if they wanted to take a loss on each console sale like they did with the 360. The 360 sold well but did not make MSFT a lot of money so they are trying a new strategy. The Xbox One is selling above the 360 level. If the goal of Microsoft is to make money on the Xbox One, then I think that they are on the way to achieving that goal.

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@FoxbatAlpha said:

@Suppaman100: your originality is groundbreaking. Butthurt,lmfao, mad is all you know how to post.

No wonder you only have 3 followers. More proof that no one likes you. Man up and accept the truth.

I can make a alt and have 3 followers in 5 posts. You now hold the record for pathetic on SW. Not something to be proud of.

Chill out...

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@Messiahbolical- said:

@AHUGECAT said:

@Messiahbolical- said:

@AHUGECAT said:

Titanfall

Crackdown 3

Quantum Break

Sunset Overdrive

Halo 5

Gears of War 4

We don't know what's going to come to PS4 yet because Sony actually likes to surprise Playstation owners with a variety of interesting new franchises each gen and actually letting their developers take the time to be creative and make sure their games are as polished as possible before releasing them, unlike Microsoft who seems content rehashing the same crap and rushing some mediocre exclusives as fast as possible the first few years of the console then relying on like the 3 most popular franchises every year to last the rest of the gen. I mean Crackdown 3?!?!? Fable Legends?! Are you f***ing kidding me? Did ANYONE want another Crackdown or Fable?

lol You're delusional if you think history isn't going to repeat itself and Sony isn't going to blow away Microsoft when it comes to the amount of exclusives in the long run like they have every gen. Xbox fanboys did the same thing last gen when Microsoft was pushing out a ton of AAe games left and right at the beginning of the gen but barely anything amazing, then all of a sudden once Sony's developers were finally done making their games they were putting out AAAe after AAAe of a variety of different genres and new IPs while Xbox 360 AAAe's became practically mythical outside of Halo, Gears, and Forza. Same thing's going to happen this gen. Enjoy your plethora of mediocre exclusives while they last.

SOny has like one AAAE developer, Naughty Dog. One studio does not make a platform dominant.

Microsoft has Halo 5, Gears of War 4, Banjo Kazooie, Crackdown 3, Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive, Forza 5 and Horizon, etc. etc.

And does ANYONE want another Killzone or Infamous? Fable sells a lot and is a popular series. It's about as popular as Uncharted. Why is Naughty Dog being wasted on another Uncharted game anyway? ND should be working on something new, not yet another Uncharted.

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#130 tyloss
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@AHUGECAT said:

@Messiahbolical- said:

@AHUGECAT said:

@Messiahbolical- said:

@AHUGECAT said:

Titanfall

Crackdown 3

Quantum Break

Sunset Overdrive

Halo 5

Gears of War 4

We don't know what's going to come to PS4 yet because Sony actually likes to surprise Playstation owners with a variety of interesting new franchises each gen and actually letting their developers take the time to be creative and make sure their games are as polished as possible before releasing them, unlike Microsoft who seems content rehashing the same crap and rushing some mediocre exclusives as fast as possible the first few years of the console then relying on like the 3 most popular franchises every year to last the rest of the gen. I mean Crackdown 3?!?!? Fable Legends?! Are you f***ing kidding me? Did ANYONE want another Crackdown or Fable?

lol You're delusional if you think history isn't going to repeat itself and Sony isn't going to blow away Microsoft when it comes to the amount of exclusives in the long run like they have every gen. Xbox fanboys did the same thing last gen when Microsoft was pushing out a ton of AAe games left and right at the beginning of the gen but barely anything amazing, then all of a sudden once Sony's developers were finally done making their games they were putting out AAAe after AAAe of a variety of different genres and new IPs while Xbox 360 AAAe's became practically mythical outside of Halo, Gears, and Forza. Same thing's going to happen this gen. Enjoy your plethora of mediocre exclusives while they last.

SOny has like one AAAE developer, Naughty Dog. One studio does not make a platform dominant.

Microsoft has Halo 5, Gears of War 4, Banjo Kazooie, Crackdown 3, Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive, Forza 5 and Horizon, etc. etc.

And does ANYONE want another Killzone or Infamous? Fable sells a lot and is a popular series. It's about as popular as Uncharted. Why is Naughty Dog being wasted on another Uncharted game anyway? ND should be working on something new, not yet another Uncharted.

This is just completely wrong.

From Santa Monica to lesser known studios such as Media Molecule, Sony has a plethora of bonafide Top Tier AAAE across the board developers. Many having games+ sequels that have well above 90 on metacritic.

2.1 million bought Killzone, say what you want but that's extremely impressive. So impressive if you combined Ryse (600k), Dead rising 3(600k), and Forza's (1000) sales it'd be roughly equal in sales overall.

Fable sells nowhere near Uncharted (17 million life time sales) where are you getting your info from?

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#131 AHUGECAT
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@tyloss said:

@AH\

SOny has like one AAAE developer, Naughty Dog. One studio does not make a platform dominant.

Microsoft has Halo 5, Gears of War 4, Banjo Kazooie, Crackdown 3, Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive, Forza 5 and Horizon, etc. etc.

And does ANYONE want another Killzone or Infamous? Fable sells a lot and is a popular series. It's about as popular as Uncharted. Why is Naughty Dog being wasted on another Uncharted game anyway? ND should be working on something new, not yet another Uncharted.

This is just completely wrong.

From Santa Monica to lesser known studios such as Media Molecule, Sony has a plethora of bonafide Top Tier AAAE across the board developers. Many having games+ sequels that have well above 90 on metacritic.

2.1 million bought Killzone, say what you want but that's extremely impressive. So impressive if you combined Ryse (600k), Dead rising 3(600k), and Forza's (1000) sales it'd be roughly equal in sales overall.

Fable sells nowhere near Uncharted (17 million life time sales) where are you getting your info from?

I forgot about Santa Monica but they've been stuck on God of War for the past 10 years. God of War was great.... in 2010. LittleBigPlanet is embarrassing (and I love platformers).

People bought Killzone cause it's the only game it has. It's going to be a ghost town soon because people are going to realize what Killzone is: crap. No matter how hard Sony tries to make it one of the big dogs it never will be. And I said it's about as popular, not as popular, but close. Gears of War is more popular than Uncharted.

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#132 tyloss
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@AHUGECAT said:

@tyloss said:

@AH\

SOny has like one AAAE developer, Naughty Dog. One studio does not make a platform dominant.

Microsoft has Halo 5, Gears of War 4, Banjo Kazooie, Crackdown 3, Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive, Forza 5 and Horizon, etc. etc.

And does ANYONE want another Killzone or Infamous? Fable sells a lot and is a popular series. It's about as popular as Uncharted. Why is Naughty Dog being wasted on another Uncharted game anyway? ND should be working on something new, not yet another Uncharted.

This is just completely wrong.

From Santa Monica to lesser known studios such as Media Molecule, Sony has a plethora of bonafide Top Tier AAAE across the board developers. Many having games+ sequels that have well above 90 on metacritic.

2.1 million bought Killzone, say what you want but that's extremely impressive. So impressive if you combined Ryse (600k), Dead rising 3(600k), and Forza's (1000) sales it'd be roughly equal in sales overall.

Fable sells nowhere near Uncharted (17 million life time sales) where are you getting your info from?

I forgot about Santa Monica but they've been stuck on God of War for the past 10 years. God of War was great.... in 2010. LittleBigPlanet is embarrassing (and I love platformers).

People bought Killzone cause it's the only game it has. It's going to be a ghost town soon because people are going to realize what Killzone is: crap. No matter how hard Sony tries to make it one of the big dogs it never will be. And I said it's about as popular, not as popular, but close. Gears of War is more popular than Uncharted.

How will we know the bolded? Killzone sold well despite being an fps against the two biggest fps franchises in history. That is an impressive meritt of it's own despite weather it's exclusive or not.

LBP may suck ass to you but that does not detract from the fact that they are an AAAE developer.

Here is a list of AAAE developers for Sony vs Microsoft.

Sony:

Naughty Dog

Santa Montica

Media Molecule

Quantic Dream

San Diego Studio SCE

Team ICO

THatGameCompany

Here is a list of Microsoft's AAAE developer list Currently:

Bungie (formerly)

343i

Turn10

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#133 ominous_titan
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It's not worth more but it isn't junk either,it at least has games at this point. Titanfall is going to be huge and I bet ms pulls out the chequebook yo make sure Sony never sees it

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#134  Edited By AHUGECAT
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@tyloss said:

@AHUGECAT said:

@tyloss said:

@AH\

SOny has like one AAAE developer, Naughty Dog. One studio does not make a platform dominant.

Microsoft has Halo 5, Gears of War 4, Banjo Kazooie, Crackdown 3, Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive, Forza 5 and Horizon, etc. etc.

And does ANYONE want another Killzone or Infamous? Fable sells a lot and is a popular series. It's about as popular as Uncharted. Why is Naughty Dog being wasted on another Uncharted game anyway? ND should be working on something new, not yet another Uncharted.

This is just completely wrong.

From Santa Monica to lesser known studios such as Media Molecule, Sony has a plethora of bonafide Top Tier AAAE across the board developers. Many having games+ sequels that have well above 90 on metacritic.

2.1 million bought Killzone, say what you want but that's extremely impressive. So impressive if you combined Ryse (600k), Dead rising 3(600k), and Forza's (1000) sales it'd be roughly equal in sales overall.

Fable sells nowhere near Uncharted (17 million life time sales) where are you getting your info from?

I forgot about Santa Monica but they've been stuck on God of War for the past 10 years. God of War was great.... in 2010. LittleBigPlanet is embarrassing (and I love platformers).

People bought Killzone cause it's the only game it has. It's going to be a ghost town soon because people are going to realize what Killzone is: crap. No matter how hard Sony tries to make it one of the big dogs it never will be. And I said it's about as popular, not as popular, but close. Gears of War is more popular than Uncharted.

How will we know the bolded? Killzone sold well despite being an fps against the two biggest fps franchises in history. That is an impressive meritt of it's own despite weather it's exclusive or not.

LBP may suck ass to you but that does not detract from the fact that they are an AAAE developer.

Here is a list of AAAE developers for Sony vs Microsoft.

Sony:

Naughty Dog

Santa Montica

Media Molecule

Quantic Dream

San Diego Studio SCE

Team ICO

THatGameCompany

Here is a list of Microsoft's AAAE developer list Currently:

Bungie (formerly)

343i

Turn10

Sony has the most overrated first party studios out ther. Except for Naughty Dog, most of those studios are irrelevant. Team ICO is a joke now and Santa Monica can't get off its God of War high. Plus when has Sony been known for first party studios anyway? People buy PlayStation for Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, etc. etc. not crap like LittleBigPlanet or Heavey Rain.

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#135 GunSmith1_basic
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It really seems like it should be the other way around. The more powerful console should be $100 more. I'm waiting to see what the catch is, like maybe we will have a new RROD crisis but on the Sony console this time. It could be something else too.

I don't buy launch consoles anyway. I'll probably be buying a new console this coming fall. Hopefully by then things will be clear.

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#136  Edited By trugs26
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@bforrester420 said:

@kuu2 said:

The games!!! Nothing else matters.

I'll bring this back up in 2 years when the PS4 is spanking the Xbone in exclusive content (like always) and again in 6 years when the exclusives on the Xbone dry up altogether.

We've seen how this story plays out and it doesn't end well for you guys.

I don't care for Playstation or Xbox, but to be fair, as it stands right now, it seems that Xbox One has more exclusive games announced (excluding indie games). At least that was last time I checked.

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#137  Edited By tyloss
Member since 2012 • 846 Posts

@AHUGECAT said:

@tyloss said:

@AHUGECAT said:

@tyloss said:

@AH\

SOny has like one AAAE developer, Naughty Dog. One studio does not make a platform dominant.

Microsoft has Halo 5, Gears of War 4, Banjo Kazooie, Crackdown 3, Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive, Forza 5 and Horizon, etc. etc.

And does ANYONE want another Killzone or Infamous? Fable sells a lot and is a popular series. It's about as popular as Uncharted. Why is Naughty Dog being wasted on another Uncharted game anyway? ND should be working on something new, not yet another Uncharted.

This is just completely wrong.

From Santa Monica to lesser known studios such as Media Molecule, Sony has a plethora of bonafide Top Tier AAAE across the board developers. Many having games+ sequels that have well above 90 on metacritic.

2.1 million bought Killzone, say what you want but that's extremely impressive. So impressive if you combined Ryse (600k), Dead rising 3(600k), and Forza's (1000) sales it'd be roughly equal in sales overall.

Fable sells nowhere near Uncharted (17 million life time sales) where are you getting your info from?

I forgot about Santa Monica but they've been stuck on God of War for the past 10 years. God of War was great.... in 2010. LittleBigPlanet is embarrassing (and I love platformers).

People bought Killzone cause it's the only game it has. It's going to be a ghost town soon because people are going to realize what Killzone is: crap. No matter how hard Sony tries to make it one of the big dogs it never will be. And I said it's about as popular, not as popular, but close. Gears of War is more popular than Uncharted.

How will we know the bolded? Killzone sold well despite being an fps against the two biggest fps franchises in history. That is an impressive meritt of it's own despite weather it's exclusive or not.

LBP may suck ass to you but that does not detract from the fact that they are an AAAE developer.

Here is a list of AAAE developers for Sony vs Microsoft.

Sony:

Naughty Dog

Santa Montica

Media Molecule

Quantic Dream

San Diego Studio SCE

Team ICO

THatGameCompany

Here is a list of Microsoft's AAAE developer list Currently:

Bungie (formerly)

343i

Turn10

Sony has the most overrated first party studios out ther. Except for Naughty Dog, most of those studios are irrelevant. Team ICO is a joke now and Santa Monica can't get off its God of War high. Plus when has Sony been known for first party studios anyway? People buy PlayStation for Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, etc. etc. not crap like LittleBigPlanet or Heavey Rain.

To each his own, personally i hate almost every single exclusive besides Halo. But then again I enjoy "shit" games like Call of Duty.

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#138 FoxbatAlpha
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@tyloss: new guy. Don't tell me to chill out when you have no idea of this scums history that I speak of. K?

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#139 BigBadBully
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The games so far on the xbox one is all I can think of. The PS4 has nothing besides multiplats. PS4 might end up being the neo geo of this generation (powerful hardware but weak software).

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#140  Edited By shawn30
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

PS4 is more powerful, has superior multiplats, superior first party developers, better controller, better online. You can also buy the camera and still pay $40 less than what Xbone costs.

So lems what makes Xbone worth $100 more when it doesn't do anything better than PS4?

PS4 is more powerful and its multiplats will typically run at a higher resolution and more stable frame-rate than Xbox One counterparts.

First-party Dev BS means nothing as its all subject to your on point of view. I only care for the games coming out irregardless of how the parent company got them. And by far I feel the One's gaming lineup is superior to the PS4 and even when the PS4 starts announcing new titles they are playing catch up. Especially since MS hasn't announced everything yet either.

Both controllers are very good.

Xbox Line is more stable, PSN gives more games to try. Stability wise the One wins, content wise PSN+ wins. Its a wash IMHO.

There is no comparison between the PSEye and Kinect, and since I value and enjoy what Kinect offers, its a big deal to me. From Xbox Fitness to navigating the entire console hands free to voice command game dvr, its part of the overall package. When I look at features like Snap and voice command TV navigation and simply walk in a room and say Xbox One and the cable box, TV, and system all come on, those are features I see value in. But first and foremost the One has far more games I enjoy that are not available on PS4, features I enjoy due to Kinect coming with the system, and a future where it will only improve as more features and apps arrive. I do wish the One was $400, but I have not regretted my launch purchase. Especially after playing Titanfall this weekend. If your third party game runs better than mine so be it so long as we enjoy the games. But I'm not playing Killzone, Knack, and Infamous for their resolution. I'm playing them for fun, if I owned the system. And I'll gladly take the 792p upscaled Titanfall all day every day over those games. I honestly see no reason to invest in a PS4 due to it being a simple gaming console and me wanting more than that. If all I gave a damn about were graphics I'd simply save up and build a gaming PC. The One offers exclusive programming, Xbox Fitness, games, control, ect and all of that makes the system a value to me. Just my 2 cents.

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#141 bforrester420
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@BigBadBully said:

The games so far on the xbox one is all I can think of. The PS4 has nothing besides multiplats. PS4 might end up being the neo geo of this generation (powerful hardware but weak software).

When has a Playstation ever had weak software?

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#142 deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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@Snugenz said:
@Vatusus said:
@MonsieurX said:

AAAE games

Like what? Forza 5 isnt AAAE outside of the GS bubble... The only true AAAE of the current gen is super mario 3D world

A cow moving the goalposts, how unique... lol

what?

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#143 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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@HiraiKazuo said:

Microsoft has a history of overpricing thier shitty products.

A surface tablet pro costs more than an IPad.

A zune HD at the time costed more than an iPod touch.

A Microsoft Kin costed more than 1 cent to buy.

And they charge over a dollar for those abysmal failed Windows Phones.

The surface had alot higher specs, and did more than the iPad, they are not the same product... and windows phone is on the increase mate... wjhile not up there with apple and samsung... its increasing.

so yea.... other than kin and zune.... you dont have a point at all. ironically sony products are equally as expensive usually and less influential now.

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#144 Murderstyle75
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@bforrester420:

PS2 was pretty weak and is the one thing I commend Microsoft for. Had they not entered the race with industry with powerful hardware, the PS3 might have been as powerful as the original Wii. They would have probably still been trying to sell you memory cards, multitaps and Ethernet adapters as well.

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#145 brimmul777
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I love my Xbox One and Titanfall was the main reason why I bought my Xbox One before Xmas 2014.I don't have a Playstation 4,so I won't run it down.I have had all generations of Playstation except PS4,but hav'nt liked sony much because of controller issues since the release of the original Xbox.So from what I know of now,I have got to go with the Xbox One.Forgetting Nintendo altogether.

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#146 shellcase86
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Not yet. They may be able to add value to it, but as it stands there's no reason it should cost more than a PS4.

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#147 clone01
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@tyloss said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

@Suppaman100: your originality is groundbreaking. Butthurt,lmfao, mad is all you know how to post.

No wonder you only have 3 followers. More proof that no one likes you. Man up and accept the truth.

I can make a alt and have 3 followers in 5 posts. You now hold the record for pathetic on SW. Not something to be proud of.

Chill out...

In his defense, Suppaman is a massive troll who never contributes anything worthwhile.