What reason is there to go PC as opposed to consoles in terms of certain games?

In terms of the more popular exlcusive and multi-plat game genres, such as Action/Adventure, Shooters, WRPG, Fighting, Sports, and JRPG's? What well-known quality exclusives in those genres does the PC offer over consoles? I understand when it comes to Sims and RTS's PC would outshine, but majority rule that the game genres I listed are the more exciting ones this gen. Is the extra $300 - $1000 more on PC parts over a console worth AA, 1920x1080 at 35FPS+, and mods? Games like Crysis 2, Dead Space 2, and DA2 look fine on console running at 30FPS, w/ no AA, at 720p and upscaled 1080p.

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"Games like Crysis 2, Dead Space 2, and DA2 look fine on console running at 30FPS"

Both of those games struggle to keep a steady 30fps and usually dip into the low 20's. Talk about low standards.:P

"Games like Crysis 2, Dead Space 2, and DA2 look fine on console running at 30FPS"

Both of those games struggle to keep a steady 30fps and usually dip into the low 20's. Talk about low standards.:P

MFDOOM1983

haha yeah and framerate is huge. After playing Battlefield Bad Company 2 at 60 FPS (more like 90) I will not accept anything less than 60 for BF3 :P.

"Games like Crysis 2, Dead Space 2, and DA2 look fine on console running at 30FPS"

Both of those games struggle to keep a steady 30fps and usually dip into the low 20's. Talk about low standards.:P

MFDOOM1983

In terms of the more popular exlcusive and multi-plat game genres, such as Action/Adventure, Shooters, WRPG, Fighting, Sports, and JRPG's? What well-known quality exclusives in those genres does the PC offer over consoles? I understand when it comes to Sims and RTS's PC would outshine, but majority rule that the game genres I listed are the more exciting ones this gen. Is the extra $300 - $1000 more on PC parts over a console worth AA, 1920x1080 at 35FPS+, and mods? Games like Crysis 2, Dead Space 2, and DA2 look fine on console running at 30FPS, w/ no AA, at 720p and upscaled 1080p.

Enlighten me aka come at me bro!!!! 8)

CB4McGusto

The Witcher and Stalker are reason enough. Plus Sony and MS will not be releasing a new console for 4 to 5 years, the advantages will become more apparent as time goes on.

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"Games like Crysis 2, Dead Space 2, and DA2 look fine on console running at 30FPS"

Both of those games struggle to keep a steady 30fps and usually dip into the low 20's. Talk about low standards.:P

NaveedLife

haha yeah and framerate is huge. After playing Battlefield Bad Company 2 at 60 FPS (more like 90) I will not accept anything less than 60 for BF3 :P.

"Look fine" is subjective, one persons "fine" is another persons "ugly".

For example I couldn't play at 1280x720, hence the upgrades over the years. 1920x1200 at 30-40fps is fine for me. But there will be people who are also happy with my res, but demand 60fps. Then there are people who play at 2560x1600, and people who play on three monitors put together.

Arguing "It looks fine to me" isn't going to sit well with everyone because "fine" is subjective. Even console gamers, with arguments between whether HD and sub-HD is a big deal.

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"Games like Crysis 2, Dead Space 2, and DA2 look fine on console running at 30FPS"

Both of those games struggle to keep a steady 30fps and usually dip into the low 20's. Talk about low standards.:P

CB4McGusto

you also forgetting the warm feeling of self importance and smuggness a PC brings. you can't put a price on that.

I can't believe that people aren't talking about HL2. I know it's a game from 2004, but I find it to be a must-have because of the Japan-developed SMOD.

Additionally, there's also STALKER, a post-apocalyptic hardcore singleplayer FPS where you're as squishy as well, you.

Oh, and let's not forget about Killing Floor, a co-op survival horror where you fight against genetically engineered "zombies" while hearing your teammates talk like stereotypical British people

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"Games like Crysis 2, Dead Space 2, and DA2 look fine on console running at 30FPS"

Both of those games struggle to keep a steady 30fps and usually dip into the low 20's. Talk about low standards.:P

MFDOOM1983

lol they act like PC is SO expensive, little do they know it is hardly anymore costly in the end if at all, while being much better :P.

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="CB4McGusto"] I would come at you, but your sig is so f***ing awesome that I will just bow to your post and agree like the console peasant slave that I am to you, the $2000 PC God that you are and your awesome sig. NaveedLife

lol they act like PC is SO expensive, little do they know it is hardly anymore costly in the end if at all, while being much better :P.

great PC exclusives:

Battlefield 1942

Battlefield 2

Battlefield 2142

Diablo II

Starcraft

Starcraft II

Counterstrike Source

Minecraft

Crysis

Crysis Warhead

The Witcher

Guild Wars

Wow

Warcraft series (IDK them all)

Baldur's Gate series (IDK them all)

STALKER SoC

STALKER CS

STALKER CoP

Torchlight

Titan Quest

and TONS more that I just dont remember at the moment. Not to mention 99.9% of the time multiplat games are quite a bit better on PC.

Diablo III

Battlefield 3 (64 players)

The Witcher 2

Max Payne 3

Skyrim (Extended Play with MODS)

Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Guild Wars 2

Star Wars The Old Republic

I cannot wait for Diablo 3, its replay value is measured in years just as BF3 will be.

Freedom. Meaning I can choose if a want to use mouse or controller. I can mod my games, meaning full conversion mods or just small mods that adds better weapons sounds, new skins, better graphics etc. Then of course there's the graphics and framerate increase

If you cut out the games that the PC is good at and downplay the significance of its graphics then it will appear to have less advantages over consoles.

CB4McGusto

Very convincing.

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If you cut out the games that the PC is good at and downplay the significance of its graphics then it will appear to have less advantages over consoles.

Barbariser

Very convincing.

lol and the funny thing is, the PC is good at EVERY genre :). *plugs in controller*....VWALLAH!

I'll just list some personal favourite games that make me glad to own a PC:

Exclusives:

STALKER trilogy

Crysis 1 + Warhead

ArmA II + Operation Arrowhead

Age of Empires III + expansions

Cryostasis: The Sleep of Reason

The Witcher

The Void

Amnesia: The Dark Descent

Shattered Horizon

Old Battlefield games

Men of War: Assault Squad

Some multiplat games that are considerably better on PC for whatever reason (noticeably better visuals, official updates, mods, extra features):

Metro 2033

Just Cause 2

Half-Life 2

Team Fortress 2

Oblivion

Especially the exclusives may not always be the big budget blockbusters you asked for, but a lot of them are among my top 10 all-time favourites games. So I'd say owning a PC is definitely worth the extra investment, especially when you consider that games are infinitely cheaper on PC.

• Mods. I don't think some even comprehend the vastness of what mods can really do to a game. Not only could it make it look ageless, mods can also be made to make entire new games. For example, you buy one game with mod support, you've bought a hundreat, easily.
• Much higher resolutions, 60 FPS, higher details.
• Superior multiplats (bad ports can be modded anyway)
• Variety of controllers, such as kb/mouse, a wheel, joystick, gamepad.
• The choice to either hook it up to a TV, or play the games on your monitor.
• More exclusives.
• No reason to buy games from stores, downloading takes like 10 minutes, and any game is just a click away. Equaling simplicity, no reason for disks either.
• More.. everything.

==========================>FREEDOM. Complete and utter freedom.

and TONS more that I just dont remember at the moment. Not to mention 99.9% of the time multiplat games are quite a bit better on PC.

NaveedLife

Gothic series >>>>>> any western RPG, by far.

And they are also exclusive to the PC.

Another thing which I like about PC gaming is the underappreciated notebook gaming.

It might not have the same graphical potential as the desktop, but it's certainly a better alternative to consoles in my opinion, and you can pretty much bring your games to school.

[lies]...not like i'm doing so right now.[/lies]

Personally I like the fact that you have this tool at your disposal that just happens to game as well. Obviously we all have a computer, why not just make it play games as well? On the games side of things I love the user made content for games especially games like Counter-Strike, Half-Life, Battlefield and so on.

Sometimes its great to be able to take an already good game and make it even better much like Oblivion and Fallout 3. Of course the back catalog is sweet as well and even still have user communities out there to suppor them with mods to this day like Doom and Duke 3D.

Of course certain types of games don't work that well but there are solutions to make them work. Take NBA 2k11 for instances, I have that on my PC but attatched one of my unused PS3 controllers to it so I could play it easier then the keyboard.

Not to mention out games are cheaper usually and even if they are the same price chances are that other outlets online have it for cheaper anyways so you just have to look. Like i got Bad Company 2 Limited Edition for 35 bucks when it came out.

If you are playing DA2 like me, on PC I have 8x AA and hi-res textures. The latter isn't available to console, so it looks dull.

Without mods, most games have limited replayability or gameplay issues I hate but can't correct.

Going from console to PC is like adding another dimension to your games.

If you are playing DA2 like me, on PC I have 8x AA and hi-res textures. The latter isn't available to console, so it looks dull.

KristoffBrujah

In terms of the more popular exlcusive and multi-plat game genres, such as Action/Adventure, Shooters, WRPG, Fighting, Sports, and JRPG's? What well-known quality exclusives in those genres does the PC offer over consoles? I understand when it comes to Sims and RTS's PC would outshine, but majority rule that the game genres I listed are the more exciting ones this gen. Is the extra $300 - $1000 more on PC parts over a console worth AA, 1920x1080 at 35FPS+, and mods? Games like Crysis 2, Dead Space 2, and DA2 look fine on console running at 30FPS, w/ no AA, at 720p and upscaled 1080p.

Enlighten me aka come at me bro!!!! 8)

CB4McGusto

You don't need to have 10 000 x 10 000 mega hyper HD on PC to enjoy their games, there are tons of "small" PC games that simly don't exist in consoles, last year i got American McGee's Alice and King's Bounty and i loved both.

Recently i got Recettear: An item's tale shop and it' fantastic, and guess what, my gaming PC is really outdated.

Bottom line, Cheap PC not always means bad PC games.

The #1 reason for me is that I used to hate how console communities moved quickly from one game to the next. Its like a fast food community always going for the hott new thing and games that are just a few months old can quickly dry up online and feel sad and empty. On the other hand my pc gaming friends on vent have been with me for 5+ years and the communities for games such as Dragons age that have mods still have healthy amounts of people playing and modding to interact with. A game in particular that is pc only and has these qualities in spades is Starcraft 2, 10 years down the road and hundreds of thousands if not millions will still be playing, there are new video's every week by Day9 and Huskystarcraft, and then there is the whole Korean scene. The community building custom games have web sites, you can really get into the whole thing and engross youreself in what feels like something thats alive, not just some rude kids there until next months game comes out.

In terms of the more popular exlcusive and multi-plat game genres, such as Action/Adventure, Shooters, WRPG, Fighting, Sports, and JRPG's? What well-known quality exclusives in those genres does the PC offer over consoles? I understand when it comes to Sims and RTS's PC would outshine, but majority rule that the game genres I listed are the more exciting ones this gen. Is the extra $300 - $1000 more on PC parts over a console worth AA, 1920x1080 at 35FPS+, and mods? Games like Crysis 2, Dead Space 2, and DA2 look fine on console running at 30FPS, w/ no AA, at 720p and upscaled 1080p.

Enlighten me aka come at me bro!!!! 8)

CB4McGusto

PC:

best multiplats

best exclusives

best functionality

Console:

best price

I understand when it comes to Sims and RTS's PC would outshine, but majority rule that the game genres I listed are the more exciting ones this gen.

CB4McGusto

Wow I guess everyone's definition of exciting has to be a FPS, TPS, RPG or JRPG. Let me stop playing Shogun 2 and Starcraft 2 now since you told me its not exciting compared to these other genres. I am going to start playing FF13 right now since it you classified it as exiciting and I dont know any better.

Thanks console peasant for opening my eyes

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I understand when it comes to Sims and RTS's PC would outshine, but majority rule that the game genres I listed are the more exciting ones this gen.

NanoMan88

Wow I guess everyone's definition of exciting has to be a FPS, TPS, RPG or JRPG. Let me stop playing Shogun 2 and Starcraft 2 now since you told me its not exciting compared to these other genres. I am going to start playing FF13 right now since it you classified it as exiciting and I dont know any better.

Thanks console peasant for opening my eyes

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[QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]

I understand when it comes to Sims and RTS's PC would outshine, but majority rule that the game genres I listed are the more exciting ones this gen.

Frozzik

Wow I guess everyone's definition of exciting has to be a FPS, TPS, RPG or JRPG. Let me stop playing Shogun 2 and Starcraft 2 now since you told me its not exciting compared to these other genres. I am going to start playing FF13 right now since it you classified it as exiciting and I dont know any better.

Thanks console peasant for opening my eyes

See my sig for the PC - console game formula.

Basically: 1 good PC game is better than all console games. Console games are simple, hand-holding, blow everything up with zero thought experiences.

PC games are about creating virtual worlds to experience, whether its FPS/RPG/RTS/MMO.

Its all about standards and if yours are lower I guess you are lucky, to be fair if you hadn't ever seen a next gen console you probably wouldn't have needed to step up from a PS2. There is however nothing on consoles that competes with the MMO or RTS genre, and the extra power and superior controls definitely help out the shooters and rpg's.

Games like Crysis 2, Dead Space 2, and DA2 look fine on console running at 30FPS, w/ no AA, at 720p.

CB4McGusto

It may be fine to you but to other's it looks like a blurry mess and crap compared to crystal quality of 1080P. Some people are fine with DVD's quality but other's would much prefer to watch moviesin the crystal clear quality Blu-ray 1080P. They just have higher standards.

[QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]

Games like Crysis 2, Dead Space 2, and DA2 look fine on console running at 30FPS, w/ no AA, at 720p.

Xtasy26

It may be fine to you but to other's it looks like a blurry mess and crap compared to crystal quality of 1080P. Some people are fine with DVD's quality but other's would much prefer to watch moviesin the crystal clear quality Blu-ray 1080P. They just have higher standards.

Dont bother its like explaining color to a blind person

I think it's worth the extra money. KB/M, mods, server options (most games anyway :(), sales with Steam etc. Plus building and tinkering with computers is fun, at least for me seeing as I'm a massive nerd.

And I'm sick of people using the old a $2000 PC is required argument. My PC cost $750 including W7 and it runs all modern games just fine at 1080p

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Mystic-G

Agreed!

I think it's worth the extra money. KB/M, mods, server options (most games anyway :(), sales with Steam etc. Plus building and tinkering with computers is fun, at least for me seeing as I'm a massive nerd.

And I'm sick of people using the old a $2000 PC is required argument. My PC cost $750 including W7 and it runs all modern games just fine at 1080p

deadesa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcm_5L6yZIY

This is a pretty tempting reason I'd say... game looks pretty insane.

The question should be the other way around what reason to go for console for any game over the pc version? Why would i pay more for an inferior version? Any game that makes it to console and pc i always get the pc version.

this generation alone the pc has more high scoring exclusives than all three consoles combined.

this generation alone the pc has more high scoring exclusives than all three consoles combined.

CaseyWegner

Unfortunately to have access to all those exclusives you need to pay like 7 different monthly MMO fees.

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this generation alone the pc has more high scoring exclusives than all three consoles combined.

markinthedark

Unfortunately to have access to all those exclusives you need to pay like 7 different monthly MMO fees.

Why would you even play 7MMOs at once?

I have to have both,there are certain games you cant get on the PC and vice versa