What should Zelda have to return it to its former glory iyo?

I expect lots of nostalgia whores and double standards.

No more Ghirahim!

*hide in corner*

don't hate me Blackhawk ;__________;

For me I'd like a normal control style, voice acting NPC's and better music Skyward had it down with the Orchestra and barley did any classic zelda tunes such a shame.

I want a 2D Zelda

Nothing, Zelda SS was true to its roots, great gameplay, great dungeon design, the game was terrific.

No more Ghirahim!

*hide in corner*

don't hate me Blackhawk ;__________;

archvile_78

It hasn't eactly lost its glory, but if we talk about mainstream penetration and acceptance, then the Wii U Zelda, with its shiny HD graphics, realistic artstyIe and conventional controls, will be enough.charizard1605

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]It hasn't eactly lost its glory, but if we talk about mainstream penetration and acceptance, then the Wii U Zelda, with its shiny HD graphics, realistic artstyIe and conventional controls, will be enough.93BlackHawk93

What former glory? I had no idea Zelda lost any glory.

[QUOTE="93BlackHawk93"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]It hasn't eactly lost its glory, but if we talk about mainstream penetration and acceptance, then the Wii U Zelda, with its shiny HD graphics, realistic artstyIe and conventional controls, will be enough.lulmont

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]It hasn't eactly lost its glory, but if we talk about mainstream penetration and acceptance, then the Wii U Zelda, with its shiny HD graphics, realistic artstyIe and conventional controls, will be enough.93BlackHawk93

What former glory? I had no idea Zelda lost any glory.

NeonNinja

[QUOTE="lulmont"]

[QUOTE="93BlackHawk93"]I'm tired of hearing how the HD graphics will make that game, and the conventional controls won't return. Honestly, eveyone just wants the realistic route, no wonder TP is almost outselling OoT.93BlackHawk93

I actually feel that Skyward Sword was a great addition. It's art sty|e reminded me of ALttP and its gameplay was a lot like any other 3D Zelda game. There was plenty of interactions from the world and its inhabitants, which mixes the best of MM, and the combat evolved further than had previously been seen since the move from 2D to 3D.

In short, I feel Skyward Sword brought the series back to the "glory days." Then again, the sty|e of TP had put a bad taste in my mouth after hours on end of pale green, brown, and beige all over the place. Oh well....good game anyway.

I also agree that the series never really lost its glory. I've played through every console Zelda game ever in the past year and loved all of them.

[QUOTE="93BlackHawk93"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]It hasn't eactly lost its glory, but if we talk about mainstream penetration and acceptance, then the Wii U Zelda, with its shiny HD graphics, realistic artstyIe and conventional controls, will be enough.charizard1605

[QUOTE="93BlackHawk93"][QUOTE="lulmont"] I loved skyward swords art style I like them all really never had a problem with one, but Skyward did look quite aged I place mostly PC games and I complain about 360/PS3 graphics as nice as skyward sword was from a art style it still looked very aged. Also nintendo you'll never do this but please but the zelda 1 and 2 Holy Cross shield in a 3D zelda game I'd love that.

lulmont

More Majora's Mask plz

If Zelda goes back to it's former glory, I wouldn't like it. I hated Zelda for almost 15 years. Twilight Princess got me into the 3D titles, but I always found the gameboy titles fun.

I think the first and most important step would be to stop treating its audience like babies, and kick up the pacing 1000%. Make it unpredictable. I could name a whole list but already have and don't want to bother.

I think it's on a fine track to retain it's former and, in my opinion, current glory. Maybe add some v/o for some of the characters? Definitely keep Link silent. Other than that the HD WiiU game is all I want.

Not being 7.5/10 games is a good start.

>implying Zelda ever lost it's glory in the first place.

Zelda hasn't lost its glory

Not being 7.5/10 games is a good start.

Tikeio

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Not being 7.5/10 games is a good start.

Tikeio

Well going by Metacritic, SS is far from a 7.5.

Like everyone else has asked

it lost its former glory?

Like everyone else has asked

it lost its former glory?

ImSwordMan

- no graphical limitations , full HD

- realistic textures / no cell shaders

- no motion controler setup

- large overworld to explore

- weapons/armor upgrade and customization

- more enemy variety

- RPG elements (XP, LEVELS , SKILLS)

- Moral choices , less linear gameplay with many side quests etc.

- more options than one for solving puzzles , clearing dungeons etc.

- voice acting

- large overworld to explore

- more enemy variety

- more options than one for solving puzzles , clearing dungeons etc.

- voice acting

AmnesiaHaze

Fixed. the rest would turn it into an RPG, which it isn't.

Others where just plain incorect. HD/Not cel shaded would return it to its former glory? :lol:

- RPG elements (XP, LEVELS , SKILLS)

- Moral choices , less linear gameplay with many side quests etc.

- more options than one for solving puzzles , clearing dungeons etc.

- voice acting

AmnesiaHaze

- no graphical limitations , full HD

- realistic textures / no cell shaders

- no motion controler setup

- large overworld to explore

- weapons/armor upgrade and customization

- more enemy variety

- RPG elements (XP, LEVELS , SKILLS)

- Moral choices , less linear gameplay with many side quests etc.

- more options than one for solving puzzles , clearing dungeons etc.

- voice acting

AmnesiaHaze

Honestly, the only thing I think Zelda needs is a deeper NPC interaction system.

If Zelda incorporated a similar system that to what the JRPGs Persona 3 and Persona 4 pioneered, the towns would be much more enjoyable for me.

It really would have made the community of Skyward Sword count. I would feel a much deeper appreciation of them as well-developed characters.

Nintendo did put their foot into the water with a couple of side-quests involving the community, but they really needed to go a lot deeper than that.

[QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"]- RPG elements (XP, LEVELS , SKILLS)

- Moral choices , less linear gameplay with many side quests etc.

- more options than one for solving puzzles , clearing dungeons etc.

- voice acting

HarlockJC

Those small touched that makes it feel old fixed.

• Midi music, don't need the overbearing orchestra like in SMG that frankly ruined the mood of the game but it needs real instruments.
• Better animations. SS are using the same stilted animations from OoT for eff sake.
• Better sound.
• Shorter and less slooooooooow tutorials (did not exist before WW so it's a relativility new thing they have to fix).
• Simply more content in the world. Large like TP or small like SS they both lack content in the open-world that they have to fix.
• A new twist to the story, Majoras mask, Minish Cap, Links Awakening are good examples of that.

The main problem I have with the Zelda franchise right now is that it feels more nostalgic than modern. It doesn't push gaming forward anymore like it did with it's past games.

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

[QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"]- RPG elements (XP, LEVELS , SKILLS)

- Moral choices , less linear gameplay with many side quests etc.

- more options than one for solving puzzles , clearing dungeons etc.

- voice acting

AmnesiaHaze

I can give you risks need to be taken. The problem when you say change the basic formula you have to be careful not to remove the reason people like it to begin with. HarlockJC

Ditch the awful motion controls (critics of SS's controls are berated for hating motion controls in general... well guilty as charged), raise standards for the series to how they were previously, hire better designers, writers and music composers, remind themselves what memorable characters and a half-decent story are, less repetition, ignore sycophantic fanboys, reviewers and publications and accept the fact that Fi is the most irritating sidekick of all time.

Easy really.

Oh yeah, and bring back Scrapper only to kill him off slowly and painfully.

I don't think Zelda ever lost it really.

Exploration. People hate it when I say this, but then they admit (its common knowledge it is more linear and less connected in SS) that it is more linear. There are other things, but mainly this. The sky is pracitcally empty, and the land below is sectioned off into 3 disconnected, rather linear, dungeon like worlds. I want a world, not 3 linear dungeons :P. Great game, but this among other things makes me very dissapointed.

[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

Not being 7.5/10 games is a good start.

ImSwordMan

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Less handholding, new story (like Link's Awakening or Majora's Mask) and OPTION FOR CLASSIC CONTROLLER.

Also, realistic graphics and perhaps an older Link, I hate the androgynous one we have now.

I loved Skyward Sword. It was really a different type of Zelda, yet similar. Yeah it had some (maybe a lot of) problems, but, for me, the overall quality easily outshined it.

Ability to sever limbs and do real time decapitations. Heil68

Less linearity, focus on exploration and secrets, top-down view, challenging combat and a mature story.

Skyward Sword was my favorite zelda game as of now, so I would say they don't need to change much. My only real criticism was to have a little less motion control. Combat was perfect and I can't imagine what would be needed to improve it, and the majority of the motion controls were great. However, I did not like the motion controls for swimming, my wrist would start cramping after having to turn it at all kinds of weird angles to make Link swim in the direction that I wanted to go. FLying was ok, however I think the joystick would have done alright for that also.