[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] No, Prime 3 was an average game. At best. When you consider the lineage- an excellent and probably most consistently highly rated (until then) series of all time in Metroid, and one of the best received reboots in the subseries Prime, Prime 3 was a letdown plain and simple. Nothing worked. except y'know, the controls, awesome boss fights, atmosphere and clever puzzles in some areas. or are you just letting your pure hatred for the wii filter out any of the qualities the game had? Nah, if my hatred for the Wii filtered out good games, then I wouldn't love Brawl. I wouldn't love the three Wii Mario games. I wouldn't love Monster Hunter. The controls worked well for being motion controls. They were still fundamentally fiddly, and overall not as effective as a traditional dual analog setup, much less the PC keyboard/mouse combo that sheep were claiming it would rival. The boss fights LOOKED good, but were so easy, they lost all sense of menace. Atmosphere? Please. It lacked atmosphere, especially coming from Prime and Prime 2, that's what made it so disappointing and overwhelming overall. Gone was that eerie sense of being in an abandoned, derelict world, completely isolated. It played more like something out of Halo than anything else. The puzzles? Yeah, the puzzles were good. The music as always was great. But the game sucked, plain and simple. 8.5 was too high a score for it.Did you skip over all the lore behind Bryo and the war that the inhabitants had there?
I still don't understand the massive amount of hate Prime 3 gets over here.
Sure it was a bit more linear and the final boss was a dud but it was a pretty sweet ride all the way up till that point.
Shinobishyguy
No, Prime 3 was an average game. At best. When you consider the lineage- an excellent and probably most consistently highly rated (until then) series of all time in Metroid, and one of the best received reboots in the subseries Prime, Prime 3 was a letdown plain and simple. Nothing worked. except y'know, the controls, awesome boss fights, atmosphere and clever puzzles in some areas. or are you just letting your pure hatred for the wii filter out any of the qualities the game had?
Meh ignore Chaz, his tastes are awful and changes his mind every 2 months. :P
Prime 3 was at the time good. What hurt the game most was seperating it into multiple worlds. Instead of one giant planet to explore, it was broken up killing the exploration. Plus the last third was forgettable.
I don't think the controls were the problem as MPT was awesome with the Wii controls.
[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Well, maybe if they invested into an original IP instead of a cheap knock-off of something else, they wouldn't have these problems.RulerofGondor
No, I agree with you. And when they do- like Gran Turismo, LittleBigPlanet, or to an extent, God of War- the IP gets instant recognition even outside of Sony's own fanboy circles. Not something you can say for something like Uncharted or Resistance. I just find it frustrating that 'Sony makes new IPs all the tiem!!!1!!' is actually a bargaining chip in arguments now that 'Sony doesn't milk!' has been debunked Again, theintentdoesn't matter at all. What matters is the fact that we as gamers are wont to get much fresher experiences, and with more frequency, from Sony than we are from Nintendo. Doesn't mean sh!t when those fresh experiences can't measure up to exclusives on other system, let alone most multiplats.
Did you skip over all the lore behind Bryo and the war that the inhabitants had there?Shinobishyguy
No, but I fail to see how this has anything to do with anything that I said
Meh ignore Chaz, his tastes are awful and changes his mind every 2 months. :P
Prime 3 was at the time good. What hurt the game most was seperating it into multiple worlds. Instead of one giant planet to explore, it was broken up killing the exploration. Plus the last third was forgettable.
I don't think the controls were the problem as MPT was awesome with the Wii controls.
Seabas989
I dunno man, I've been pretty consistent in my hatred for Prime 3, and my reasons for said hatred, over the last five years.
[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]Did you skip over all the lore behind Bryo and the war that the inhabitants had there?charizard1605
No, but I fail to see how this has anything to do with anything that I said
Meh ignore Chaz, his tastes are awful and changes his mind every 2 months. :P
Prime 3 was at the time good. What hurt the game most was seperating it into multiple worlds. Instead of one giant planet to explore, it was broken up killing the exploration. Plus the last third was forgettable.
I don't think the controls were the problem as MPT was awesome with the Wii controls.
Seabas989
I dunno man, I've been pretty consistent in my hatred for Prime 3, and my reasons for said hatred, over the last five years.
i tried posting the list of all the mario games since the dawn of time, to also invalidate your list, and this is what came up:
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- The maximum allowed size for a message is 20000 characters. your message is 77698 characters long.
Cheleman
curse you charizard, CURSE YOU:x
Y u jelly tho?
Jelly? no
Mad? yes... that the character limit is 20000:P
That list would've been glorious:twisted:
Break it up into multiple posts :3 Just remember, since I removed spin offs, re-releases, and off genre releases for all the franchises I listed, you'd have to do the same :P
[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] So apparently the planet once being inhabited by a warring tribe of lizards doesn't count That doesn't matter if in the here and now, it doesn't feel abandoned.
I would LOVE a new Metroid, especially for 3DS. Picking up from where Fusion left off would be great. Also if a new Metroid game is released for the Wii U, that's when it isn't an option for me to not buy the console anymore.
I take this to be a victory :cool: [QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] there's f*cking ruined structures and left over golums everywhere Seriously can you set aside you bipolarity for one second and realize that it's possible for a game to be not quite as good as the first two, yet still a good game in it's own right? Do you understand the simple fact that the mere presence of other characters detracts from the feeling and sensation of isolation that the the other games in the series were so good at establishing, that added to the atmosphere, and that the absence of that was why the atmosphere in the game suffered? Bipolarity? What bipolarity> I flat out say it- it was an average game. An average shooter, a less than average Metroid game, an average action adventure game. There was nothing special or even 'good' about it. You know series where I recognize a game is good even if it's not as good as the previous ones? Oh, I don't know. Pokemon? Super Smash Bros.? Mario Kart? The Legend of Zelda? God of War? Mass Effect? Assassin's Creed? The Elder Scrolls? I can go on forever. I recognize a game as being good when it is, in fact, good. Prime 3 was not. Prime 3 was an average game that felt even more subpar in context. Plain and simple.
[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Y u jelly tho?charizard1605
Jelly? no
Mad? yes... that the character limit is 20000:P
That list would've been glorious:twisted:
Break it up into multiple posts :3 Just remember, since I removed spin offs, re-releases, and off genre releases for all the franchises I listed, you'd have to do the same :P :S all the PSP games are spin offs..... They are not main story line games anymore then something like the assassin's creed game for PSP is a main series game....:?
Break it up into multiple posts :3 Just remember, since I removed spin offs, re-releases, and off genre releases for all the franchises I listed, you'd have to do the same :P :S all the PSP games are spin offs..... They are not main story line games anymore then something like the assassin's creed game for PSP is a main series game....:? I mean a spin off like Mario Kart is a spin off, not like how Super Mario 3D Land is a spin off
[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Break it up into multiple posts :3 Just remember, since I removed spin offs, re-releases, and off genre releases for all the franchises I listed, you'd have to do the same :Pcharizard1605
:S all the PSP games are spin offs..... They are not main story line games anymore then something like the assassin's creed game for PSP is a main series game....:? I mean a spin off like Mario Kart is a spin off, not like how Super Mario 3D Land is a spin off ohh :P
I want Retro to explore more gaming options in their immediate future outside of Metroid Prime.
I don't mind them returning to the series, but Metroid Prime 3 was crap, so I want them to branch out and discover other ways to show all the talent they have that went untapped for that turd.
1986: Metroid 1990: Metroid II: The Return of Samus 1994: Super Metroid 2001: Metroid Prime 2001: Metroid Fusion 2004: Metroid Prime 2: Echoes 2005: Metroid Prime: Hunters 2005: Metroid: Zero Mission 2007: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption 2010: Metroid: Other M That's ten games in 26 years. Now, 2002: Ratchet and Clank 2003: Ratchet and Clank: Going Commando 2004: Ratchet and Clank: Up Your Arsenal 2005: Ratchet: Deadlocked 2007: Ratchet and Clank: Size Matters 2007: Ratchet and Clank: Tools of Destruction 2008: Ratchet and Clank: Quest for Booty 2008: Secret Agent Clank 2009: Ratchet and Clank: A Crack in Time 2011: Ratchet and Clank: All 4 One 2012: Ratchet and Clank: Full Frontal Assault Eleven games in ten years. Or, 2005: God of War 2007: God of War II 2008: God of War: Chains of Olympus 2010: God of War III 2010: God of War: Ghost of Sparta 2013: God of War: Ascension Six games in eight years. Or, 2006: Resistance: Fall of Man 2008: Resistance 2 2009: Resistance: Retribution 2010: Resistance 3 2011: Resistance: Burning Skies Five games in six years Or, 1998: Gran Turismo 2000: Gran Turismo 2 2001: Gran Turismo 3: A Spec 2002: Gran Turismo Concept 2004: Gran Turismo 4 Prologue 2005: Gran Tusimo 4 2006: Gran Turismo HD 2007: Gran Turismo 5 Prologue 2009: Gran Turismo PSP 2010: Gran Turismo 5 Ten releases in fourteen years, AFTER I consolidated all the Concept games Or, finally, 2008: LittleBigPlanet 2009: LittleBigPlanet PSP 2010: LittleBigPlanet 2 2012: LittleBigPlanet PS Vita Four games in four years. So yes, yes I am sure you like milk.OWNAGE
[spoiler] What would be cool was if the ending of Metroid Dread or whatever it will be called pulls a Wing Commander 4 [/spoiler]
Jonwh18
[spoiler] where the heck did the metroid that came out of the wall come from? It wasn't a X because there was not virus floating around after it died. I thought the metroid they used for samus's cure at the beginning was the last one? wtf [/spoiler]
[spoiler] they were cloned, that area was off-limits to samus aran and the government were using that laboratory to clone metroids. the federation used that metroid not only to cure samus, but also to clone it and create more metroids [/spoiler]
[QUOTE="Heirren"]Kojima should make the game.Heirren
:lol: their stories are terribly convoluted, heck no.... You say that like its a negative thing. Metroid games ar esupposed to have little in the way of dialouge, let alone stuopid nonsensical dialouge for 30 min at a time. You obviously don't play metroid.
[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="campzor"]we need super metroid on the eshop for the 3dscampzor
We need SNES games for the eShop in general. still havnt gotten my 3ds... this or new gen pkm game would have pushed me to get it.. BLAME NINTY! I DO BLAME NINTY, NINTY SUCKS :x
No we don't, not really. We already have Super and Echoes, the two best offerings in their particular genres (2D, FP action-adventure), and the only way Nintendo could really get a new Metroid off the ground is if it is accessible to casual audiences. If they could get Retro to do a DCKR-like 2.5D retro-remix Metroid, but with one open, non-linear world with numerous sequence breaks, platforming gameplay and the Super Guide, then sure, I bet it would get made. But we don't need another Prime. That series died with Corruption, and Sakamoto doesn't want it anywhere near his canon.
[QUOTE="Zeviander"]No we don't, not really. We already have Super and Echoes, the two best offerings in their particular genres (2D, FP action-adventure), and the only way Nintendo could really get a new Metroid off the ground is if it is accessible to casual audiences. If they could get Retro to do a DCKR-like 2.5D retro-remix Metroid, but with one open, non-linear world with numerous sequence breaks, platforming gameplay and the Super Guide, then sure, I bet it would get made. But we don't need another Prime. That series died with Corruption, and Sakamoto doesn't want it anywhere near his canon. Sakamoto can suck it. Prime outdid everything he ever did. He just can't deal with that. (Yes, I love Super Metroid, it's one of of my favorite games ever. Prime outdoes it. prime outclasses it. So thoroughly it's not even funny. And this isn't even considering Prime 2, which outclasses Prime 1).
winchester, lil' homie. Tho i bet you don't smoke.
thread: actually, i think a 3rd person Metroid game would be fantastic, we already seen how well it worked in 1st person. Why milk prime? Prime 3 wasn't as good as the other ones either way.
[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="Jonwh18"] :lol: their stories are terribly convoluted, heck no....
Jonwh18
You say that like its a negative thing. Metroid games ar esupposed to have little in the way of dialouge, let alone stuopid nonsensical dialouge for 30 min at a time. You obviously don't play metroid. I've been playing Metroid since NES. It's always been a cinematic game, of sorts. Who is to say the plot can't be a little more fleshed out? The world is certainly interesting enough to do so.
[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Sakamoto can suck it. Prime outdid everything he ever did. He just can't deal with that. (Yes, I love Super Metroid, it's one of of my favorite games ever. Prime outdoes it. prime outclasses it. So thoroughly it's not even funny. And this isn't even considering Prime 2, which outclasses Prime 1). Prime is a very faithful recreation of Super in 3D/first-person. You haven't played enough Super to truly understand it's greatness. It's like saying Dawn of Sorrow or Order of Ecclesia are better than Symphony of the Night. Just silliness. Sakamoto was involved with practically every Metroid, including Super. Gunpei Yokoi is dead and Sakamoto is the only one with the experience (and authority) to make more. If you don't like what he is doing, there are plenty of fan-made games and map remixes out there to enjoy. Go play more Super. Beat it in under an hour. Then you might be able to form a proper opinion about the series. :P
I've been playing Metroid since NES. It's always been a cinematic game, of sorts. Who is to say the plot can't be a little more fleshed out? The world is certainly interesting enough to do so.Heirren
Indeed, but there are different, less overt ways of telling a story in a game. Fusion and Other M are excellent games, and great additions to the series (unlike Hunters), but I really think the best way to tell a "story" in Metroid is through the environment. The use of hostile and serene environments in Super is a great example, especially when the two come together in Maridia.
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