What will Halo3 bring to the table that other fps games won't?

[QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]Well it seems to me you guys are not asking for much in Halo 3. "If it ain't broke, dont fix it" is all I'm seeing. No surprise though. A simple concept should be kept simple. It's a great game as long it doesn't require too much thinking. It's the American way.shungokustasu

If Capcom made a Street Fighter 4, you wouldn't want them to transform the whole fighting engine, would you? You'd probably be happy if it were essentially the same game you knew and loved, but with new characters and tweaked movesets.

Same kind of thing here. The amount of thinking has nothing to do with it.

You assumed a lot in that statement. I do want them to change they fighting engine to a better sprites that will complement they art of the UDON comics. Also, and secondary button command assist like in tekken games. Not bring back new character, but the old ones they left out. So yeah if Street Fighter 4 ever comes out, I expect it to be way different from 3S, otherwise what was the reason of making it in the first place? 

[QUOTE="odin2019"][QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="odin2019"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

I have been wondering what Halo 3 will bring in fps market that other fps games won't because as of now I don't see anything that makes it stand out. I have seen Haze, Turok, UT3, Killzone 2, and other fps games that are interesting in their own way but how will Halo 3 stand out when compared to the other fps games coming out in the fall?

Pro_wrestler

What are any of those games doing to stand out? We haven't even seen any real Killzone footage. A game doesn't have to break new ground to be excellent.

I didn't any of them were standing out.  Thats why I'm asking about Halo because I don't see it standing out as of now.  Based on what I have seen is that UT3 will have the best multplay online, Turok will have one of the cooler main story modes, Haze will be good without a doubt, and Killzone2... I just through that in there because it has alot of hype and is supposed to be good.

Ok then, What will KZ2 do to stand out? What will Turok do to stand out from its N64 counterparts? All Halo 3 was meant to do was end a trilogy and be a damn good game... not innovate on the genre. If you ask me, Halo is the least of the FPS coming out this year that has got something to prove. Halo CE did nothing knew yet everyone praised it, I really dont see your point in this thread other than to annoy. Theres nothing you can say about Halos impression on yourself and it be fact.. so if your trying to somehow pursade others then you are failing, horribly.

Why wouldn't you want Halo to be innovative even if it is the third game?  Thats what big game titles are all about is what is that you are bringing to the table this time around that was better and over the top than what you brought last time.  As for Killzone 2 well I don't know too much about it except that they are spending tons of money to make the game supposively they have a huge development team working on it but if the game sucks and doesn't live up the hype I won't buy it.  I will just buy Haze or UT3 then.

No your severely misunderstanding what "Innovate" & "bring to the table" means.. Innovate means to do something that has never been done before in a genre. In that case I dont see Halo 3 being innovative. Brining to the table is far different, has Halo 3 will bring an amazing Single and Multiplayer. There is a mighty big difference in what you said.

Well with Resistance they brought some new innovative things to the fps genre like some of their guns can shoot through walls and they had some new types of grenades that were cool.  Also, I think the 40 person online multiplayer is new and if it is genious idea.  I have yet to hear anything new like this about Halo 3 and if I don't hear anything by E3 I will just assume there is nothing new on the way.

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="odin2019"][QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="odin2019"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

I have been wondering what Halo 3 will bring in fps market that other fps games won't because as of now I don't see anything that makes it stand out. I have seen Haze, Turok, UT3, Killzone 2, and other fps games that are interesting in their own way but how will Halo 3 stand out when compared to the other fps games coming out in the fall?

odin2019

What are any of those games doing to stand out? We haven't even seen any real Killzone footage. A game doesn't have to break new ground to be excellent.

I didn't any of them were standing out. Thats why I'm asking about Halo because I don't see it standing out as of now. Based on what I have seen is that UT3 will have the best multplay online, Turok will have one of the cooler main story modes, Haze will be good without a doubt, and Killzone2... I just through that in there because it has alot of hype and is supposed to be good.

Ok then, What will KZ2 do to stand out? What will Turok do to stand out from its N64 counterparts? All Halo 3 was meant to do was end a trilogy and be a damn good game... not innovate on the genre. If you ask me, Halo is the least of the FPS coming out this year that has got something to prove. Halo CE did nothing knew yet everyone praised it, I really dont see your point in this thread other than to annoy. Theres nothing you can say about Halos impression on yourself and it be fact.. so if your trying to somehow pursade others then you are failing, horribly.

Why wouldn't you want Halo to be innovative even if it is the third game? Thats what big game titles are all about is what is that you are bringing to the table this time around that was better and over the top than what you brought last time. As for Killzone 2 well I don't know too much about it except that they are spending tons of money to make the game supposively they have a huge development team working on it but if the game sucks and doesn't live up the hype I won't buy it. I will just buy Haze or UT3 then.

No your severely misunderstanding what "Innovate" & "bring to the table" means.. Innovate means to do something that has never been done before in a genre. In that case I dont see Halo 3 being innovative. Brining to the table is far different, has Halo 3 will bring an amazing Single and Multiplayer. There is a mighty big difference in what you said.

Well with Resistance they brought some new innovative things to the fps genre like some of their guns can shoot through walls

Oh dear. Oh dear me... leave this thread and never return, if you know what's good for you.

/withholding rage 

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="odin2019"][QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="odin2019"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

I have been wondering what Halo 3 will bring in fps market that other fps games won't because as of now I don't see anything that makes it stand out. I have seen Haze, Turok, UT3, Killzone 2, and other fps games that are interesting in their own way but how will Halo 3 stand out when compared to the other fps games coming out in the fall?

odin2019

What are any of those games doing to stand out? We haven't even seen any real Killzone footage. A game doesn't have to break new ground to be excellent.

I didn't any of them were standing out.  Thats why I'm asking about Halo because I don't see it standing out as of now.  Based on what I have seen is that UT3 will have the best multplay online, Turok will have one of the cooler main story modes, Haze will be good without a doubt, and Killzone2... I just through that in there because it has alot of hype and is supposed to be good.

Ok then, What will KZ2 do to stand out? What will Turok do to stand out from its N64 counterparts? All Halo 3 was meant to do was end a trilogy and be a damn good game... not innovate on the genre. If you ask me, Halo is the least of the FPS coming out this year that has got something to prove. Halo CE did nothing knew yet everyone praised it, I really dont see your point in this thread other than to annoy. Theres nothing you can say about Halos impression on yourself and it be fact.. so if your trying to somehow pursade others then you are failing, horribly.

Why wouldn't you want Halo to be innovative even if it is the third game?  Thats what big game titles are all about is what is that you are bringing to the table this time around that was better and over the top than what you brought last time.  As for Killzone 2 well I don't know too much about it except that they are spending tons of money to make the game supposively they have a huge development team working on it but if the game sucks and doesn't live up the hype I won't buy it.  I will just buy Haze or UT3 then.

No your severely misunderstanding what "Innovate" & "bring to the table" means.. Innovate means to do something that has never been done before in a genre. In that case I dont see Halo 3 being innovative. Brining to the table is far different, has Halo 3 will bring an amazing Single and Multiplayer. There is a mighty big difference in what you said.

Well with Resistance they brought some new innovative things to the fps genre like some of their guns can shoot through walls and they had some new types of grenades that were cool.  Also, I think the 40 person online multiplayer is new and if it is genious idea.  I have yet to hear anything new like this about Halo 3 and if I don't hear anything by E3 I will just assume there is nothing new on the way.

[QUOTE="odin2019"][QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="odin2019"][QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="odin2019"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

I have been wondering what Halo 3 will bring in fps market that other fps games won't because as of now I don't see anything that makes it stand out. I have seen Haze, Turok, UT3, Killzone 2, and other fps games that are interesting in their own way but how will Halo 3 stand out when compared to the other fps games coming out in the fall?

Deactivation

What are any of those games doing to stand out? We haven't even seen any real Killzone footage. A game doesn't have to break new ground to be excellent.

I didn't any of them were standing out. Thats why I'm asking about Halo because I don't see it standing out as of now. Based on what I have seen is that UT3 will have the best multplay online, Turok will have one of the cooler main story modes, Haze will be good without a doubt, and Killzone2... I just through that in there because it has alot of hype and is supposed to be good.

Ok then, What will KZ2 do to stand out? What will Turok do to stand out from its N64 counterparts? All Halo 3 was meant to do was end a trilogy and be a damn good game... not innovate on the genre. If you ask me, Halo is the least of the FPS coming out this year that has got something to prove. Halo CE did nothing knew yet everyone praised it, I really dont see your point in this thread other than to annoy. Theres nothing you can say about Halos impression on yourself and it be fact.. so if your trying to somehow pursade others then you are failing, horribly.

Why wouldn't you want Halo to be innovative even if it is the third game? Thats what big game titles are all about is what is that you are bringing to the table this time around that was better and over the top than what you brought last time. As for Killzone 2 well I don't know too much about it except that they are spending tons of money to make the game supposively they have a huge development team working on it but if the game sucks and doesn't live up the hype I won't buy it. I will just buy Haze or UT3 then.

No your severely misunderstanding what "Innovate" & "bring to the table" means.. Innovate means to do something that has never been done before in a genre. In that case I dont see Halo 3 being innovative. Brining to the table is far different, has Halo 3 will bring an amazing Single and Multiplayer. There is a mighty big difference in what you said.

Well with Resistance they brought some new innovative things to the fps genre like some of their guns can shoot through walls

Oh dear. Oh dear me... leave this thread and never return, if you know what's good for you.

/withholding rage 

Well its the first fps game that I've come across that has guns that do that.  Its something new even though lots of people have had ideas about it.

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

You assumed a lot in that statement. I do want them to change they fighting engine to a better sprites that will complement they art of the UDON comics. Also, and secondary button command assist like in tekken games. Not bring back new character, but the old ones they left out. So yeah if Street Fighter 4 ever comes out, I expect it to be way different from 3S, otherwise what was the reason of making it in the first place?

killtactics

Outline in my post where I said I want more/better moves and more characters? Comprehension is your friend. 

[QUOTE="Deactivation"][QUOTE="odin2019"][QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="odin2019"][QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="odin2019"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

I have been wondering what Halo 3 will bring in fps market that other fps games won't because as of now I don't see anything that makes it stand out. I have seen Haze, Turok, UT3, Killzone 2, and other fps games that are interesting in their own way but how will Halo 3 stand out when compared to the other fps games coming out in the fall?

odin2019

What are any of those games doing to stand out? We haven't even seen any real Killzone footage. A game doesn't have to break new ground to be excellent.

I didn't any of them were standing out. Thats why I'm asking about Halo because I don't see it standing out as of now. Based on what I have seen is that UT3 will have the best multplay online, Turok will have one of the cooler main story modes, Haze will be good without a doubt, and Killzone2... I just through that in there because it has alot of hype and is supposed to be good.

Ok then, What will KZ2 do to stand out? What will Turok do to stand out from its N64 counterparts? All Halo 3 was meant to do was end a trilogy and be a damn good game... not innovate on the genre. If you ask me, Halo is the least of the FPS coming out this year that has got something to prove. Halo CE did nothing knew yet everyone praised it, I really dont see your point in this thread other than to annoy. Theres nothing you can say about Halos impression on yourself and it be fact.. so if your trying to somehow pursade others then you are failing, horribly.

Why wouldn't you want Halo to be innovative even if it is the third game? Thats what big game titles are all about is what is that you are bringing to the table this time around that was better and over the top than what you brought last time. As for Killzone 2 well I don't know too much about it except that they are spending tons of money to make the game supposively they have a huge development team working on it but if the game sucks and doesn't live up the hype I won't buy it. I will just buy Haze or UT3 then.

No your severely misunderstanding what "Innovate" & "bring to the table" means.. Innovate means to do something that has never been done before in a genre. In that case I dont see Halo 3 being innovative. Brining to the table is far different, has Halo 3 will bring an amazing Single and Multiplayer. There is a mighty big difference in what you said.

Well with Resistance they brought some new innovative things to the fps genre like some of their guns can shoot through walls

Oh dear. Oh dear me... leave this thread and never return, if you know what's good for you.

/withholding rage

Well its the first fps game that I've come across that has guns that do that. Its something new even though lots of people have had ideas about it.

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

You assumed a lot in that statement. I do want them to change they fighting engine to a better sprites that will complement they art of the UDON comics. Also, and secondary button command assist like in tekken games. Not bring back new character, but the old ones they left out. So yeah if Street Fighter 4 ever comes out, I expect it to be way different from 3S, otherwise what was the reason of making it in the first place?

D0013ER

Bungie's not new to this whole game-making thing.  Let's give them the benefit of a doubt that they're not just going to slap a "3" on Halo 2 and call it a new game.  If they do, well then we can bash them all to hell. 

[QUOTE="odin2019"][QUOTE="Deactivation"][QUOTE="odin2019"][QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="odin2019"][QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="odin2019"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

I have been wondering what Halo 3 will bring in fps market that other fps games won't because as of now I don't see anything that makes it stand out. I have seen Haze, Turok, UT3, Killzone 2, and other fps games that are interesting in their own way but how will Halo 3 stand out when compared to the other fps games coming out in the fall?

Deactivation

What are any of those games doing to stand out? We haven't even seen any real Killzone footage. A game doesn't have to break new ground to be excellent.

I didn't any of them were standing out. Thats why I'm asking about Halo because I don't see it standing out as of now. Based on what I have seen is that UT3 will have the best multplay online, Turok will have one of the cooler main story modes, Haze will be good without a doubt, and Killzone2... I just through that in there because it has alot of hype and is supposed to be good.

Ok then, What will KZ2 do to stand out? What will Turok do to stand out from its N64 counterparts? All Halo 3 was meant to do was end a trilogy and be a damn good game... not innovate on the genre. If you ask me, Halo is the least of the FPS coming out this year that has got something to prove. Halo CE did nothing knew yet everyone praised it, I really dont see your point in this thread other than to annoy. Theres nothing you can say about Halos impression on yourself and it be fact.. so if your trying to somehow pursade others then you are failing, horribly.

Why wouldn't you want Halo to be innovative even if it is the third game? Thats what big game titles are all about is what is that you are bringing to the table this time around that was better and over the top than what you brought last time. As for Killzone 2 well I don't know too much about it except that they are spending tons of money to make the game supposively they have a huge development team working on it but if the game sucks and doesn't live up the hype I won't buy it. I will just buy Haze or UT3 then.

No your severely misunderstanding what "Innovate" & "bring to the table" means.. Innovate means to do something that has never been done before in a genre. In that case I dont see Halo 3 being innovative. Brining to the table is far different, has Halo 3 will bring an amazing Single and Multiplayer. There is a mighty big difference in what you said.

Well with Resistance they brought some new innovative things to the fps genre like some of their guns can shoot through walls

Oh dear. Oh dear me... leave this thread and never return, if you know what's good for you.

/withholding rage

Well its the first fps game that I've come across that has guns that do that. Its something new even though lots of people have had ideas about it.

No that would putting words in my mouth or maybe you misunderstood.  Well at first I thought it was innovative because I thought it had never been done because I had never played a game that did that but since you say counter strike has it, I no longer view as innovative.  I know what innovative means I just thought that shooting through walls had never been done in a game before but since it has been done before its not innovative.

[QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

You assumed a lot in that statement. I do want them to change they fighting engine to a better sprites that will complement they art of the UDON comics. Also, and secondary button command assist like in tekken games. Not bring back new character, but the old ones they left out. So yeah if Street Fighter 4 ever comes out, I expect it to be way different from 3S, otherwise what was the reason of making it in the first place?

shungokustasu

Outline in my post where I said I want more/better moves and more characters? Comprehension is your friend. 

also i liked how u ignored my last post;)

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="odin2019"][QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="odin2019"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

I have been wondering what Halo 3 will bring in fps market that other fps games won't because as of now I don't see anything that makes it stand out. I have seen Haze, Turok, UT3, Killzone 2, and other fps games that are interesting in their own way but how will Halo 3 stand out when compared to the other fps games coming out in the fall?

odin2019

What are any of those games doing to stand out? We haven't even seen any real Killzone footage. A game doesn't have to break new ground to be excellent.

I didn't any of them were standing out. Thats why I'm asking about Halo because I don't see it standing out as of now. Based on what I have seen is that UT3 will have the best multplay online, Turok will have one of the cooler main story modes, Haze will be good without a doubt, and Killzone2... I just through that in there because it has alot of hype and is supposed to be good.

Ok then, What will KZ2 do to stand out? What will Turok do to stand out from its N64 counterparts? All Halo 3 was meant to do was end a trilogy and be a damn good game... not innovate on the genre. If you ask me, Halo is the least of the FPS coming out this year that has got something to prove. Halo CE did nothing knew yet everyone praised it, I really dont see your point in this thread other than to annoy. Theres nothing you can say about Halos impression on yourself and it be fact.. so if your trying to somehow pursade others then you are failing, horribly.

Why wouldn't you want Halo to be innovative even if it is the third game? Thats what big game titles are all about is what is that you are bringing to the table this time around that was better and over the top than what you brought last time. As for Killzone 2 well I don't know too much about it except that they are spending tons of money to make the game supposively they have a huge development team working on it but if the game sucks and doesn't live up the hype I won't buy it. I will just buy Haze or UT3 then.

No your severely misunderstanding what "Innovate" & "bring to the table" means.. Innovate means to do something that has never been done before in a genre. In that case I dont see Halo 3 being innovative. Brining to the table is far different, has Halo 3 will bring an amazing Single and Multiplayer. There is a mighty big difference in what you said.

Well with Resistance they brought some new innovative things to the fps genre like some of their guns can shoot through walls and they had some new types of grenades that were cool. Also, I think the 40 person online multiplayer is new and if it is genious idea. I have yet to hear anything new like this about Halo 3 and if I don't hear anything by E3 I will just assume there is nothing new on the way.

All guns in Counter Strike can shoot through walls. And 40 player online is nothing new either. 

[QUOTE="D0013ER"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

You assumed a lot in that statement. I do want them to change they fighting engine to a better sprites that will complement they art of the UDON comics. Also, and secondary button command assist like in tekken games. Not bring back new character, but the old ones they left out. So yeah if Street Fighter 4 ever comes out, I expect it to be way different from 3S, otherwise what was the reason of making it in the first place?

peaceful_anger

Bungie's not new to this whole game-making thing.  Let's give them the benefit of a doubt that they're not just going to slap a "3" on Halo 2 and call it a new game.  If they do, well then we can bash them all to hell. 

Do you mean how they slapped a "2" on Halo: Combat Evolved? I really think Halo 3 is going to be just a more polished Halo 2 because it will basically have the same old gameplay and multiplayer as its predecessors because everybody loves it, and of course, if it's not broke then don't fix it. Of course there will be some improvements to gameplay and multiplayer, but I really just can't see anything drastically changing. Yes, Halo will have better graphics than previous installments, and then throw in some different weapons and vehicles to spice it up a little, but I don't see this game being as amazing as people are claiming it is going to be, but that's just me. Halo 3 will have to pull something special because even if it is better than Halo 2, standards are a lot higher now.peaceful_anger

What are you talking about? Halo 2 was very different from Halo: Combat Evolved. 

If Halo 3 doesn't bring anything new to the genre maybe some other fps games will. I'm really expecting Haze to bring some new stuff, maybe UT3, and I'm expecting new stuff from Killzone 2 but only time will tell. Make no mistake about it though I definitely want to see some new stuff add to the genre just like I expect to see new things added to the other genres as well.odin2019

Dude, just don't talk about Killzone 2, ever. 

[QUOTE="peaceful_anger"] Do you mean how they slapped a "2" on Halo: Combat Evolved? I really think Halo 3 is going to be just a more polished Halo 2 because it will basically have the same old gameplay and multiplayer as its predecessors because everybody loves it, and of course, if it's not broke then don't fix it. Of course there will be some improvements to gameplay and multiplayer, but I really just can't see anything drastically changing. Yes, Halo will have better graphics than previous installments, and then throw in some different weapons and vehicles to spice it up a little, but I don't see this game being as amazing as people are claiming it is going to be, but that's just me. Halo 3 will have to pull something special because even if it is better than Halo 2, standards are a lot higher now.TyrantDragon55

What are you talking about? Halo 2 was very different from Halo: Combat Evolved.

Agreed. So much so, some people didn't like it. 

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

You assumed a lot in that statement. I do want them to change they fighting engine to a better sprites that will complement they art of the UDON comics. Also, and secondary button command assist like in tekken games. Not bring back new character, but the old ones they left out. So yeah if Street Fighter 4 ever comes out, I expect it to be way different from 3S, otherwise what was the reason of making it in the first place?

killtactics

Outline in my post where I said I want more/better moves and more characters? Comprehension is your friend.

also i liked how u ignored my last post;)

Actually, I wanted the old ones they left out to replace some of the new ones. lol secondary command assist has nothing to do with the move of the character, but the command input being simplified. There was a reason why I ignore the comment. 

[QUOTE="odin2019"]If Halo 3 doesn't bring anything new to the genre maybe some other fps games will. I'm really expecting Haze to bring some new stuff, maybe UT3, and I'm expecting new stuff from Killzone 2 but only time will tell. Make no mistake about it though I definitely want to see some new stuff add to the genre just like I expect to see new things added to the other genres as well.Liquid_47

Dude, just don't talk about Killzone 2, ever. 

you seem to dislike this Killzone 2, I realize the first Killzone was a disappointment to a certain extent but prehaps you should have more faith in the game.  After all people don't hype a game just for nothing.  I know I'm expecting to see alot at E3 from this game along with the other fps games.

[QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

You assumed a lot in that statement. I do want them to change they fighting engine to a better sprites that will complement they art of the UDON comics. Also, and secondary button command assist like in tekken games. Not bring back new character, but the old ones they left out. So yeah if Street Fighter 4 ever comes out, I expect it to be way different from 3S, otherwise what was the reason of making it in the first place?

shungokustasu

Outline in my post where I said I want more/better moves and more characters? Comprehension is your friend.

also i liked how u ignored my last post;)

Actually, I wanted the old ones they left out to replace some of the new ones. lol secondary command assist has nothing to do with the move of the character, but the command input being simplified. There was a reason why I ignore the comment. 

[QUOTE="Liquid_47"]

[QUOTE="odin2019"]If Halo 3 doesn't bring anything new to the genre maybe some other fps games will. I'm really expecting Haze to bring some new stuff, maybe UT3, and I'm expecting new stuff from Killzone 2 but only time will tell. Make no mistake about it though I definitely want to see some new stuff add to the genre just like I expect to see new things added to the other genres as well.odin2019

Dude, just don't talk about Killzone 2, ever.

you seem to dislike this Killzone 2, I realize the first Killzone was a disappointment to a certain extent but prehaps you should have more faith in the game. After all people don't hype a game just for nothing. I know I'm expecting to see alot at E3 from this game along with the other fps games.

No,

It's the fact that you don't believe Halo 3 will do as well as people say it will, yet when it comes to Killzone 2, which we know nothing about...

It's just retarded logic. 

[QUOTE="Liquid_47"]

[QUOTE="odin2019"]If Halo 3 doesn't bring anything new to the genre maybe some other fps games will. I'm really expecting Haze to bring some new stuff, maybe UT3, and I'm expecting new stuff from Killzone 2 but only time will tell. Make no mistake about it though I definitely want to see some new stuff add to the genre just like I expect to see new things added to the other genres as well.odin2019

Dude, just don't talk about Killzone 2, ever. 

you seem to dislike this Killzone 2, I realize the first Killzone was a disappointment to a certain extent but prehaps you should have more faith in the game.  After all people don't hype a game just for nothing.  I know I'm expecting to see alot at E3 from this game along with the other fps games.

The most advanced online system out there? Video recording, and editing?

Halo 3 likely won't be as great as the original, but it has a few things which others shooters don't. And FYI, Turok's going to suck. I have foreseen it.
project343

I have been wondering what Halo 3 will bring in fps market that other fps games won't because as of now I don't see anything that makes it stand out. I have seen Haze, Turok, UT3, Killzone 2, and other fps games that are interesting in their own way but how will Halo 3 stand out when compared to the other fps games coming out in the fall?

odin2019

it should bring an end to th f'ed up cliffhanger from Halo 2, as well as the interesting multiplayer that has become the XBL posterboy. as of new stuff, the new shield grenades seem to be the only mild innovation. but hey, if it ain't broke why majorly fix it?  

How about we direct the thread in this direction:

 What will Halo 3 bring to the table that Halo 2 didn't?

 Here's a good start:

An ending.

[QUOTE="explicthangnail"][QUOTE="Liquid_47"][QUOTE="explicthangnail"]

[QUOTE="Ganon_919"]Master Chief.Liquid_47

Gordon Freeman.

Funny how he's the only FPS character that anyone ever mentions when the Chief is used as a trump card.

Yeah but what happened to the "tonnes of better PC FPSes" that hermits kept going on about?

-sigh-

I know about PC FPSes. I've played most of them. But when you see the "Halo sucks compared to many other PC games" -- it's got jealousy written all over that statement.

And yeah, Halo sucks on PC. Period.

So ask yourself why it sucks on the PC? The gameplay is identical, UT3 / Quake / Battlefields have no serious "Main Characters, you do not all look the same but different coloured (or your a a nobody soldier) in most of the games, but the gameplay of these games far exceeds it, thats why it failed on the PC, people have played the other games , played Halo and though........................ "This is it?".

Timesplitters & Halo are the only Console FPS's that I personally think succeeded in gameplay, Timesplitters heavily relying on accuracy and speed, Halo heavily relying on 1 shotting with nearly everything except normal guns, which is why the game pisses me off so much, its easier to kill with Melee/sticky grenades/viechles/rocker launcher & close shot sniping.  "The American Way" comment well if you dont generilze it only to america is true ... Halo makes little use of mainstream weapons that require you to learn2aim/recoil ajustment or use strategy, its purely "GRAB TEH UBER VIECHLE/WEAPON/GRENADS N SPAM!"  = Easy Game, end of, anybody can be good.

No FPS games have brought more to the table then DOOM. This is fact.WhySoCry

Ahem, Wolfenstein.

It's fun. It has an amazing storyline. Really good enemies which aren't just generic aliens which you gun down from point A to point B, and awesome multiplayer. Did i mention the fun? It'll be fun.

 There you go.
 

So ask yourself why it sucks on the PC? The gameplay is identical, UT3 / Quake / Battlefields have no serious "Main Characters, you do not all look the same but different coloured (or your a a nobody soldier) in most of the games, but the gameplay of these games far exceeds it, thats why it failed on the PC, people have played the other games , played Halo and though........................ "This is it?".

Timesplitters & Halo are the only Console FPS's that I personally think succeeded in gameplay, Timesplitters heavily relying on accuracy and speed, Halo heavily relying on 1 shotting with nearly everything except normal guns, which is why the game pisses me off so much, its easier to kill with Melee/sticky grenades/viechles/rocker launcher & close shot sniping. "The American Way" comment well if you dont generilze it only to america is true ... Halo makes little use of mainstream weapons that require you to learn2aim/recoil ajustment or use strategy, its purely "GRAB TEH UBER VIECHLE/WEAPON/GRENADS N SPAM!" = Easy Game, end of, anybody can be good.

Meu2k7

Your whole post is annihilated by the fact that it scored AAA. So "teh PC standardz!!1" is sort of a dead point, isn't it? It still got a AAA review. And the only reason it scored less than the xbox counter part is because it was out over a year later. Simple.

I have been wondering what Halo 3 will bring in fps market that other fps games won't because as of now I don't see anything that makes it stand out. I have seen Haze, Turok, UT3, Killzone 2, and other fps games that are interesting in their own way but how will Halo 3 stand out when compared to the other fps games coming out in the fall?

odin2019

Turok (havent seen much only a few screens so nothing new just kill dinosaurs here and there)

Haze (dont know much)

UT3 (ok its pretty much exactly the same as ut2k4 exept with more gay ass vehicle that make the game more imbalanced  and no dodge jump)

Killzone 2 (CG) 

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So ask yourself why it sucks on the PC? The gameplay is identical, UT3 / Quake / Battlefields have no serious "Main Characters, you do not all look the same but different coloured (or your a a nobody soldier) in most of the games, but the gameplay of these games far exceeds it, thats why it failed on the PC, people have played the other games , played Halo and though........................ "This is it?".

Timesplitters & Halo are the only Console FPS's that I personally think succeeded in gameplay, Timesplitters heavily relying on accuracy and speed, Halo heavily relying on 1 shotting with nearly everything except normal guns, which is why the game pisses me off so much, its easier to kill with Melee/sticky grenades/viechles/rocker launcher & close shot sniping. "The American Way" comment well if you dont generilze it only to america is true ... Halo makes little use of mainstream weapons that require you to learn2aim/recoil ajustment or use strategy, its purely "GRAB TEH UBER VIECHLE/WEAPON/GRENADS N SPAM!" = Easy Game, end of, anybody can be good.

Ninja-Vox

Your whole post is annihilated by the fact that it scored AAA. So "teh PC standardz!!1" is sort of a dead point, isn't it? It still got a AAA review. And the only reason it scored less than the xbox counter part is because it was out over a year later. Simple.

A Gamespot review, or owning the game and playing it online, seeing its dieing community , lack of great mods and sites compared to how long-term strong FPS's that still have great communities?

GS rated THPS 1.0 , Perfect Dark Zero 9.0 - 2 examples of why they are not always right. 

halo will bring nothing to the table it never did

its the only game xbox fans could brag about in the xbox days

its easy for a franchise to be gold if thats the only franchise to brag about :lol: 

What kind of question is that?!?!

Halo brought to the table running around and shooting. How many fps do u know that do that?! LMAO

Crysis & Unreal Tournament FTW!!! 

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[QUOTE="Ganon_919"]Master Chief.raualex

Gordon Freeman.

God 

science :P

F*ck you.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

So ask yourself why it sucks on the PC? The gameplay is identical, UT3 / Quake / Battlefields have no serious "Main Characters, you do not all look the same but different coloured (or your a a nobody soldier) in most of the games, but the gameplay of these games far exceeds it, thats why it failed on the PC, people have played the other games , played Halo and though........................ "This is it?".

Timesplitters & Halo are the only Console FPS's that I personally think succeeded in gameplay, Timesplitters heavily relying on accuracy and speed, Halo heavily relying on 1 shotting with nearly everything except normal guns, which is why the game pisses me off so much, its easier to kill with Melee/sticky grenades/viechles/rocker launcher & close shot sniping. "The American Way" comment well if you dont generilze it only to america is true ... Halo makes little use of mainstream weapons that require you to learn2aim/recoil ajustment or use strategy, its purely "GRAB TEH UBER VIECHLE/WEAPON/GRENADS N SPAM!" = Easy Game, end of, anybody can be good.

Meu2k7

Your whole post is annihilated by the fact that it scored AAA. So "teh PC standardz!!1" is sort of a dead point, isn't it? It still got a AAA review. And the only reason it scored less than the xbox counter part is because it was out over a year later. Simple.

A Gamespot review, or owning the game and playing it online, seeing its dieing community , lack of great mods and sites compared to how long-term strong FPS's that still have great communities?

GS rated THPS 1.0 , Perfect Dark Zero 9.0 - 2 examples of why they are not always right. 

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