whats a bigger advantage gddr5 or cloud

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

[QUOTE="AD216"]

:lol: the same kojima that said msg4 wouldnt run on a 360 but now he's paid off?

AD216

How are you lemmings SO stupid? :?

moron.

"The Cloud" means connecting to a server over the internet, nothing more....

You can't compare GDDR5 with "The Cloud" to begin with.... One is a piece hardware, the other is an online service.

"The Cloud" can't and won't do what the hardcore fakeboys/lemmings suggest it will, in terms of AI and physics. 

lol @ digital download mgs4 on 360...wow

PSN is a cloud service already. Nothing stopping them from allowing developers to utilize the servers from back-end capabilities. Sony just didn't think it was worth hyping up because dedicated server technology is nothing new.

Serious question. Which would you truly have?

Mr720fan

It depends. Faster RAM will definately improve the single player experience. For multiplayer, the cloud has the potential to have a large impact.

I haven't seen any demos where a game didn't need the quick response times that local hardware can give - but I am not a game developer. If there are things that do not have to be "real time", then those tasks could be sent to the cloud in single player - but I can't think of anything that fits that model.

Anything connected to the internet can use the "cloud"

"The Cloud" means connecting to a server over the internet, nothing more....

You can't compare GDDR5 with "The Cloud" to begin with.... One is a piece hardware, the other is an online service.

"The Cloud" can't and won't do what the hardcore fakeboys/lemmings suggest it will, in terms of AI and physics.

MlauTheDaft

Buuuuut. It can provide for improved multi-player experiences beyond just being dedicated servers.

[QUOTE="AD216"]

Obviously the one who has the weaker hardware. Just like how M$ payed Kojima to spew bullshit in spite of him knowing nothing about programming. faizan_faizan

:lol: the same kojima that said msg4 wouldnt run on a 360 but now he's paid off?

How are you lemmings SO stupid? :?

[QUOTE="Silenthps"]neither. The bigger advantage is 7860 > 7770faizan_faizan

Anything connected to the internet can use the "cloud"

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

[QUOTE="AD216"]

:lol: the same kojima that said msg4 wouldnt run on a 360 but now he's paid off?

cheesie253

How are you lemmings SO stupid? :?

[QUOTE="Shewgenja"]

PS4's system bandwidth is 176GB/s compared to XBone's 68.

So, unless your internet is 108 GB/s somehow, then the "powa of da cloud" does not fill a gap there.

[QUOTE="AD216"][QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]that was because of disc space

 

How are you lemmings SO stupid? :?

Douevenlift_bro

moron.

[QUOTE="MlauTheDaft"]

"The Cloud" means connecting to a server over the internet, nothing more....

 

You can't compare GDDR5 with "The Cloud" to begin with.... One is a piece hardware, the other is an online service.

"The Cloud" can't and won't do what the hardcore fakeboys/lemmings suggest it will, in terms of AI and physics.

StormyJoe

Buuuuut. It can provide for improved multi-player experiences beyond just being dedicated servers.

No ;)

It's litterally the same thing in terms of online connectivity and that's where the bottleneck is.

Edit: "The Cloud" and dedicated servers, I mean.

[QUOTE="cheesie253"][QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]owned.

Shewgenja

there are alot of things you can do with the cloud in regards to gaming, its not going to give you teraflops or any kind of power, but there are other benefits that can delivered. More so if it was always online.

[QUOTE="cheesie253"][QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]that was because of disc space

 

How are you lemmings SO stupid? :?

Douevenlift_bro

[QUOTE="Shewgenja"][QUOTE="cheesie253"] You guys are not getting what the cloud is supposed to aid in. Again the cloud and memory are two completely different things with completely different uses. The whole concept of this thread is stupid. Comparing the memory of the two systems or the cloud of the two systems makes sense.Mr720fan

there are alot of things you can do with the cloud in regards to gaming, its not going to give you teraflops or any kind of power, but there are other benefits that can delivered. More so if it was always online.

Please do explain in depth. What are these benefits?

[QUOTE="Mr720fan"]

[QUOTE="Shewgenja"] Can you explain how the cloud is going to fit a square peg in a round hole? How about how a GPU that is 1.2 TFlops is supposed to pull "cloud power" out of its bum and rasterize whatever is being processed better than a system with a 1.86 TFlops GPU? You guys are just spewing propaganda. Please, just stop.MlauTheDaft

there are alot of things you can do with the cloud in regards to gaming, its not going to give you teraflops or any kind of power, but there are other benefits that can delivered. More so if it was always online.

Please do explain in depth. What are these benefits?

drivatar being one of them, improved A.I., games that game up to date changes say you are playing nba live and the ads on the court are for st patricks day and it reflects that day, commentary updates for announcers, im sure creativity and innovation will be given to the developers knowing they can have access to your console and everyone else cause its always on. i think we are in its infantcy but microsoft has me intrigued. there are many ideas many possibilities..... i hope to see it work

The question we SHOULD be asking, is which console has blast processing?

The question we SHOULD be asking, is which console has blast processing?

trentonspliff80

lol we shall see

drivatar being one of them, improved A.I., games that game up to date changes say you are playing nba live and the ads on the court are for st patricks day, commentary updates for announcers, im sure creativity and innovation will be given to the developers knowing they can have access to your console and everyone else cause its always on. i think we are in its infantcy but creativity and innovation of developers who are saying they can improve gaming as we know it today have me intrigued. there are many ideas many possibilities.....Mr720fan

[QUOTE="MlauTheDaft"]

[QUOTE="Mr720fan"]

there are alot of things you can do with the cloud in regards to gaming, its not going to give you teraflops or any kind of power, but there are other benefits that can delivered. More so if it was always online.

Mr720fan

Please do explain in depth. What are these benefits?

drivatar being one of them, improved A.I., games that game up to date changes say you are playing nba live and the ads on the court are for st patricks day and it reflects that day, commentary updates for announcers, im sure creativity and innovation will be given to the developers knowing they can have access to your console and everyone else cause its always on. i think we are in its infantcy but microsoft has me intrigued. there are many ideas many possibilities..... i hope to see it work

Drivatar is just sending statistical data to locally caluculated AI. Are you expecting some sort of on-the-fly improvements with an internet connection? 

Seeing as how GDDR5 is actually something, that

[QUOTE="cheesie253"][QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]owned.Shewgenja

[QUOTE="trentonspliff80"]

The question we SHOULD be asking, is which console has blast processing?

lol we shall see

Cloud are set of program instructions that manage and utilize online infrastracture, it just like a thing similar to torrent file sharing.

GDDR5 is a hardware.

Not sure why people think the cloud is exclusive to Microsoft.

There's a reason why Sony bough gaikai :P.

When it comes to the cloud, Sony has a massive advantage since they got gaikai's tech.

XVision84

1. GDDR5

2. 40 percent stronger gpu

3 . Real cloud tech

All the x1 has is a web cam for 100 extra bucks :lol:

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

[QUOTE="MlauTheDaft"]

"The Cloud" means connecting to a server over the internet, nothing more....

You can't compare GDDR5 with "The Cloud" to begin with.... One is a piece hardware, the other is an online service.

"The Cloud" can't and won't do what the hardcore fakeboys/lemmings suggest it will, in terms of AI and physics.

MlauTheDaft

Buuuuut. It can provide for improved multi-player experiences beyond just being dedicated servers.

No ;)

It's litterally the same thing in terms of online connectivity and that's where the bottleneck is.

Edit: "The Cloud" and dedicated servers, I mean.

MS's already spoke of using the cloud for more than what dedicated servers are used for.

[QUOTE="MlauTheDaft"]

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

Buuuuut. It can provide for improved multi-player experiences beyond just being dedicated servers.

StormyJoe

No ;)

It's litterally the same thing in terms of online connectivity and that's where the bottleneck is.

Edit: "The Cloud" and dedicated servers, I mean.

MS's already spoke of using the cloud for more than what dedicated servers are used for.

Ok, but it won't be anything which enhances your gaming experience.

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

Not sure why people think the cloud is exclusive to Microsoft.

There's a reason why Sony bough gaikai :P.

When it comes to the cloud, Sony has a massive advantage since they got gaikai's tech.

no-scope-AK47

1. GDDR5

2. 40 percent stronger gpu

3 . Real cloud tech

All the x1 has is a web cam for 100 extra bucks :lol:

Rqal cloud Tech? LOL!!!!

[QUOTE="Mr720fan"]drivatar being one of them, improved A.I., games that game up to date changes say you are playing nba live and the ads on the court are for st patricks day, commentary updates for announcers, im sure creativity and innovation will be given to the developers knowing they can have access to your console and everyone else cause its always on. i think we are in its infantcy but creativity and innovation of developers who are saying they can improve gaming as we know it today have me intrigued. there are many ideas many possibilities.....Shewgenja

take care and enjoy that garbage psn lol

some people cant deal with the clouddddddddddddddddz i wish i put up a poll

some people cant deal with the clouddddddddddddddddz i wish i put up a poll

Mr720fan

cloud can only be practical on non real time calculation due to internet bandwith constraint. AI real time reaction to your flanking manuever will not be affected by the cloud.

huge persistent world changes (for example a sudden occurence of earthquake that completely change the whole landscape) will be hard to implement in the cloud because of uploading and

downloading data (unless this data is already native locally). 

I have yet to see cloud compute in action, but, usually RAM speed is not much an issue for computing, especially it is shared with no data copy. However, cloud compute can cache gigantic world with most realistic lighting and efficiently return result to the client.magicalclick

yes so much innovation comes with the cloud. I want that and love that, very worried that microsoft will not go on with there vision. I hope they make always on an option . or cloud compatible where you can give access and be always on for the dev.

PS4 does both so PS4 it is :)

http://www.shacknews.com/article/79760/sony-of-course-ps4-can-do-cloud-computing

finalstar2007

i still think MS cloud is pretty much of a gimmick. so much so as online connectivity is not mandatory. meaning games must still function effectively

offline. 

[QUOTE="Mr720fan"]

[QUOTE="magicalclick"]I have yet to see cloud compute in action, but, usually RAM speed is not much an issue for computing, especially it is shared with no data copy. However, cloud compute can cache gigantic world with most realistic lighting and efficiently return result to the client.magicalclick

yes so much innovation comes with the cloud. I want that and love that, very worried that microsoft will not go on with there vision. I hope they make always on an option . or cloud compatible where you can give access and be always on for the dev.

nice do you think microsoft give an always on option ?

Serious question.  Which would you truly have?

Mr720fan

How is that question serious ?

You clearly dont know what cloud is, to begin with

PS4's system bandwidth is 176GB/s compared to XBone's 68.

 

So, unless your internet is 108 GB/s somehow, then the "powa of da cloud" does not fill a gap there.

Shewgenja

[QUOTE="Mr720fan"]

Serious question.  Which would you truly have?

loosingENDS

How is that question serious ?

You clearly dont know what cloud is, to begin with

[QUOTE="Mr720fan"]

Serious question. Which would you truly have?

loosingENDS

How is that question serious ?

You clearly dont know what cloud is, to begin with

either do you, i know enough to know there is potential, now go play your garbage 4

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="Mr720fan"]

Serious question. Which would you truly have?

faizan_faizan

How is that question serious ?

You clearly dont know what cloud is, to begin with

nobody knows about the cloud really maybe you do, but doubt he knows about it. wasdie is the cloud authority i think.

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="Mr720fan"]

Serious question. Which would you truly have?

Mr720fan

How is that question serious ?

You clearly dont know what cloud is, to begin with

either do you, i know enough to know there is potential, now go play your garbage 4

The point is not potential, the point is that any device can have cloud help, inlcuding PS4

So i dont see how it helps xbox one at all, it is just BS and nothing concrete

MS has "cloud" as much as the PS4 can have

[QUOTE="Mr720fan"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

How is that question serious ?

You clearly dont know what cloud is, to begin with

loosingENDS

either do you, i know enough to know there is potential, now go play your garbage 4

The point is not potential, the point is that any device can have cloud help, inlcuding PS4

So i dont see how it helps xbox one at all, it is just BS and nothing concrete

MS has "cloud" as much as the PS4 can have

kinda disagree there buddy, one has been putting an infrastructure together with alot of money thrown at it and the other not so much. cant believe you went cow man, sad when jprg are best with x1

[QUOTE="Mr720fan"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

How is that question serious ?

You clearly dont know what cloud is, to begin with

loosingENDS

either do you, i know enough to know there is potential, now go play your garbage 4

The point is not potential, the point is that any device can have cloud help, inlcuding PS4

So i dont see how it helps xbox one at all, it is just BS and nothing concrete

MS has "cloud" as much as the PS4 can have